New Day?

kor420

Pre-Show Stalwart
As i was sitting on the couch talking to my brother and watching raw, and as "New Day" was in the ring, it hit me. And i really, really think that this is really going to happen. It may not happen exactly like i think, but it will happen in some way close how i picture it in my head.

When the 3 first got together, it seemed like we had a new stable forming similar to Nation of Domination, but out of the blue (no pun intended) we get this OVERLY optimistic, blue man group. This is not what we all was thinking and even hoping for when the 3 got together. At the time this group made no sense to me, and have been brushing them off as another group thrown together because wwe had nothing for them as single competitors.

As i was watching tonight, it just him me. What sense would it had made for wwe turn them into a Nation of Domination type of group just out of thin air?

We all know this current New Day just sucks, it's very very bad. I truly think it's by design. But what if this is just part of the story to give them that legit reason to transform into a Nation of Domination type group?

"The machine gave them the crappy gimmicks. They done everything they asked, and still are being held down. They turned them into a laughingstock and it's all because off their skin color. And now they are not going to follow script."

Their name 'New Day' is an awesome name for a new age Nation of Domination type of group.

You think this current New Day group is headed into that direction of becoming another Nation of Domination group, and this current New Day group is by design to GIVE them THAT reason to transform into another Nation of Domination?
 
I think it's just another lazy stereotype gimmick the company gave three guys they had nothing for. The crowd wasn't reacting well to them tonight on Raw I think there was new day sucks chants. They are simply a comedy act and will be anything further. They are the black version of 3mb.
 
It would at least be a twist as opposed to playing it straight either way. I could approve of that turn, y'know, if the story is told well enough. And the way I figure it, 95% of their story is told in the ring because they haven't been speaking too much outside of it, so that's a little harder to screw up.
 
I just started watching their RAW match and the crowd reaction has been pretty chilly. I suspect that a plug is about tobe pulled.

I doubt a new Nation will form with all the real life racial tensions. If this was the Attitude Era, then absolutely. But the WWE is too squeaky clean.
 
I can't help but feel there's a potential swerve in place for the New Day. I'm probably overestimating the creative possibilities of the writing team with that suspicion, but I do think that a heel turn out of all this goofiness would be best for the group. Not necessarily a Nation-type faction that many wanted, but certainly an aggressive, abrasive faction that gets what it wants.
 
I've genuinely thought the same as you from the day they've debuted. I think their current gimmick is just a set up for them throwing it off and declaring the WWE to be a place that houses stereotypes about the black community.
 
The Detroit crowd was awful on Raw. They judged before they could give New Day a chance and they tried to look "cool" and "hip" by chanting nonsense. NEW DAY doesn't suck! They are fun to watch in the ring, with some of the best teamwork I have ever seen and a group made up of phenomenal talent individually. I would have muted the match if it wasn't for Kofi Kingston being on commentary. Listen to them folks, they are all about representing positivity and having a great time. Some people just want to be dark and gloomy all the time, don't they? New Day is fun to watch in the ring and they spread optimism to us all. What's there to hate? The Detroit Crowd realized they made a mistake in quick judgment and they chanted "NEW DAY!"and clapped at the end, just like they're supposed to! The New Day proved them wrong and turned the crowd back in their favor. For goodness sakes, I hope the NEW DAY won't be buried because Detroit thought it would be "cool" to not invest interest before the match even started. There are tons of NEW DAY fans out there and WE DON'T want to see them misused!!! #NewDayFan4Life
 
Five weeks ago I would have guessed the same thing but right now I'm leaning toward New Day being a positive African American influence on TV for kids that will generally work the family hour time slots.

They are sort of taking over the role that the Usos had. If you pay attention to the Usos you would notice that during their feud with Miz they have gotten a little dark. It seems they are moving on and New Day is taking their place.
 
Good God... was Kofi Kingston's commentary fucking abysmal. He would not shut the fuck up and repeatedly went on with "you know what I'm saying?" after every comment, followed by "you know what I'm saying, dawg?". I'm a white guy who lives in a black neighborhood and was annoyed by his commentary. Big E acts like a crazy person (not in a good kind of crazy way) with the possessed Southern baptist preacher/handkerchief gimmick. If that wasn't enough to pull the plug, I don't know what is.
 
I don't think WWE's intention was for The New Day to be hated off the bat. They were pushing them well before their debut and even now they're still getting some good TV time, but quite simply, the crowd DOES NOT like them for one reason or another. While I was watching Raw I was constantly reminded of The Rock in his earlier years. He too had the positive, fresh faced, corny gimmick as Rocky Maivia, and even though the WWE was majorly high on him, the crowd just HATED him. We all know how that turned out.

I agree with you that a heel turn is coming but I don't think it was the plan all along. The New Day just can't seem to get over at all... even worse the crowd is all over them. They'll turn and I'm sure they'll be much better than they are right now.
 
The crowd doesn't like them because it's forced, they come out to stupid gospel singers on the tron and stupid outfits. They were jobbers and suck on the mic. Xavier Woods being the best, still sounds forced being their "mouthpiece". Big E sounds hokey and Kofi Kingston on commentary was a reminder of why he never got any mic time and was a live event/Main Event jobber for years.
 
I think it's just another lazy stereotype gimmick the company gave three guys they had nothing for.

Money.


All of you are giving the WWE creative WAYYYYY too much credit. Though I suppose we have reached that point, were they are doing things so awful that they MUST be doing them purposefully.

Make no mistake, New Day is cover-your-eyes awful, and the crowd is reacting accordingly. At the same token, I do not understand everyone's fixation with them turning heel. You understand this is the WWE in 2014 (15) right? That they will be in no way whatsoever edgy, and just end up becoming massive jobbers, ala 3MB?
 
I seriously think this is one of the worst things from WWE in years. It's a massive hit to guys who were already going nowhere. If they came out and destroyed people to get their "revenge" on WWE for overlooking them or for their shortcomings, it would make sense. Instead they disappear for months, join with fellow jobbers because of their skin color and are all about positivity while still not getting over. A previous poster likened them to corny Rocky Maivia and I agree. Turning Heel is the best option because while I'm not a huge Uso fan, they have babyface charisma.
 
It will work out like it always does. These three are very good wrestlers and sorts entertainers. When WWE has a good talent, they first try to promote them as faces. Faces will sell more and go over with the target audience better, so they hope for a good face. If the crowd doesn't react well, then they are made into heels. I think these guys would be better as heels, there's only so much you can do with a "positive message." The only wrestlers who can pull off a gimmick with an over abundance of positivity are guys like Hogan and Cena.
 
I think we're all jumping the gun a little. They debuted, what, 2 weeks ago? I think we should give them at least 2 weeks and 1 day before we call them the biggest failure in WWE history.
 
I actually like the New Day. They're fun, refreshing and have a good balance of in ring work and mic skills. Yeah some of the crowd gave them shit but that's just because the IWC can't stand anything that doesn't try hard to be edgy (and they wanted to suck off the Dust Brothers). I think the three of them came up with it to troll the crowd a bit. If you remember, when they were off TV and we thought a Nation was coming, all three went on Twitter and kind of shot back at people for expecting an "angry black people" gimmick just because they all happened to be black. Maybe this is their silent "screw you". Either way it should be given a fair chance.

A swerve could be up, true, but even though it's early I could see Xavier being the one to turn on them. Big E. fits the role way too comfortably and Kofi, even though he'd make a great heel, is very versatile as a face.
 
After reading the comments so far, i still think this is all leading up to something big. it all seems like it's being purposely done to give them that reason to form a nation of domination type of stable.

If it's not being purposely done, than someone needs to be fired, or retire (vkm).
 
After reading the comments so far, i still think this is all leading up to something big. it all seems like it's being purposely done to give them that reason to form a nation of domination type of stable.

If it's not being purposely done, than someone needs to be fired, or retire (vkm).

Maybe, but clearly the perception that these guys are going to turn heel are affecting the way the fans are reacting to them. It is hard to applaud, chant, or get emotionally behind some one when you feel they are getting ready to completely change. It is unfortunate, somewhat unfair but regardless WWE is failing with regard to New Day. Then again it is only week two.
 
Putting midcarders in a group or on a team only makes them a team of mid carders. The talent is still the same and the crowd knows the difference between a "New Day" and the same ol' stuff with new colors and sayings. Don't get me wrong, Kofi is one of my favorite Superstars in the WWE and he is even a great tag team competitor. I even like Big E to an extent. I just think Woods is an low card entertainer with not as much talent and appeal as the other two, thus brings down the group. His mic skills are the worst and his in-ring ability is nothing worth mentioning.
 
Putting midcarders in a group or on a team only makes them a team of mid carders. The talent is still the same and the crowd knows the difference between a "New Day" and the same ol' stuff with new colors and sayings. Don't get me wrong, Kofi is one of my favorite Superstars in the WWE and he is even a great tag team competitor. I even like Big E to an extent. I just think Woods is an low card entertainer with not as much talent and appeal as the other two, thus brings down the group. His mic skills are the worst and his in-ring ability is nothing worth mentioning.

Irony considering Xavier is booked as their "mouthpiece". Kofi sucks on the mic, but is good in the ring. Big E is change-the-channel worse than Kane at this point. He needs to dump the handkerchief to wipe off his sweat, Southern Baptist style preaching promo approach, and be a silent and dangerous bodyguard style character.
 
Irony considering Xavier is booked as their "mouthpiece". Kofi sucks on the mic, but is good in the ring. Big E is change-the-channel worse than Kane at this point. He needs to dump the handkerchief to wipe off his sweat, Southern Baptist style preaching promo approach, and be a silent and dangerous bodyguard style character.

The only thing I can give Big E is he's showing that he can be versatile. I too wish he would go back to the no nonsense, beating people up monster he's capable of. Kofi is bad on the mic I agree but why does he even need to pic the mic up in the first place? As far as Woods goes, I guess it's because he has a PHD he's supposed to be able to speak. Makes me question what he PHD is actually in.
 
I don't know if anyone else viewed it this way but JBL kept going on and on with the "no one can be that positive" spiel during their match. You might just be right, if they have JBL reiterating over and over that no one is this happy, that must be by design.

Their debut couldn't come at a better time for them though. Picture their feud with the Dust brothers ending at the Royal Rumble(assuming it's around the time they break those two up), they fight for the tag titles at Fast Lane and lose. The next night on Raw we have a "pipebomb" promo from these guys and they turn into a new stable in essence. Instead of the name being "The New Day is bright" it becomes "The New Day is bright for us!" They turn heel(but more of a cool heel) and feud with some legends going to Wrestlemania 31. I could see it working, is the WWE planning this far ahead though? We'll have to wait and see
 
These guys all look like they came from the church of Brother D-Von and that failed gimmick from years past. WWE is doing what it has always done for decade: use familiar phrase and cultural elements to appeal to a certain demographic. The backlash is already starting with people chanting for NXT during that match. It's a far cry from the Nation and people just don't know how to or whether or not they want to accept it.
 
I just get the feeling that New Day was SUPPOSED to be a heel group, but with the racial tensions from Ferguson and such right now, they scrapped it and made them face.

There's simply no way they could have gone with an all black heel faction right now without getting a seriously negative reaction. Sad, but true. And don't forget that they are a publicly traded company. They have to be mindful of that stuff.

They'd have done the guys in New Day a better favor though by just scrapping the whole faction thing altogether and figured out something else for them... because the New Day is the drizzling shits.
 
Another problem with New Day is their name.

While it's better than that name Woods wanted to call it, New Day sounds so short sighted. If they last a year or two, then is it really a new day? Will they change their title to "Yesterday"?
 

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