It's just so much more fun to let you keep digging your hole though!
I don't mean to be a douchebag if in fact I am, I'm just loving this thread right now. I live for this shit. No matter how much you and I call each other names, I want you to know, you're the most entertaining poster on the forums as far as I'm concerned.
How am I digging my hole? I'm actually debating with legit facts. You're hiding behind FTS. At least I'm standing up for myself, as opposed to hiding behind the big bad mod.
I was just trying to be funny.
I know. I just felt like being indignant.
Come on. Be nice to Dexter. This is a spam thread and he wanted to spam it up. We love Dexter, remember that.
That's right, we do, don't we? I'm just being a little confrontational with him. He can take it. Promise.
Dexter is awesome and a lounge regular. What makes the lounge so fun for you is having me and Dexter to debate with.
Eh. I 'spose so.
There is actually a global warming thread you could resurrect somewhere in there. Dexter started it, it's call The Church of Green. I think that's the one, but it was a pretty good thread throughout.
...I'd really rather not right now. If he's arguing in there how he argues in here, it'll be you and I arguing and he chiming in with "Oh, look! FTS wins again!" in between blowing your dick.
No, I never said that it isn't bad to pump those things in the air. I just don't think that it's caused climate change. I do think that there will be a rise in respiratory conditions over the next fifty years. Believe me, I don't think that it's good to pump chemicals into the air.
Isn't that what Cap and Trade is, though? A way of dealing with the shit companies pump into the air by the billions of tons?
I know that. I don't think we're going to die in three years. I do think that it's funny to tie the myth into the end of Obama's Presidency. It does make for some pretty funny jokes. But, I'm not going to lie. The month of December 2012 will be pretty interesting. It might not be an actual prophecy, but the conditions are ripe for someone to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. All it takes is one nut with a nuke, and the number of bat shit crazy motherfuckers able to get nukes seems to be increasing. Can you not see Kim Jong Il just seeing if one of his nukes actually works. He always tests missiles on our holidays, even Columbus Day! I think that 122112 seems like a perfect day for that crazy ass to wake up and be curious.
Yeah...and that's what scares me. The Mayan calendar has been twisted as humans have always twisted ideas through the years. Scientists know the last magnetic pole switch was 780,000 years ago, and the next one won't be for at least another 1,000 years. Nothing
should happen in the realm of Mother Earth. However, something
can happen in the realm of Man. Because we're fucked in the head like that.
Yes, respiratory illness, even acid rain. These things are bad and harmful. But just because they do happen, doesn't mean the climate changes. There is a limit to the harms, and I draw that line before undoing billions of years of cyclical climate changes. For instance, the polar ice caps may be melting, but Greenland is absorbing quite a bit of that runoff. The ice there is packed as hard as it has been in centuries. I will find the article and cite it if you would like.
That fresh water that does get to the ocean current dilutes it, therefore dampening its effects. That's why scientists are so afraid of the Atlantic Current completely turning off. If you talk to any global warming scientist, his number one concern are those ocean currents. They're what will kill us.
As far as we humans turning around billions of years of climate on this Earth...are you really surprised? At all? We can move mountains, we can instigate eruptions of volcanoes. We can fly in the air, we can change the very shape of the Earth. We can split the atom. Hell, the military has done experiments to control the very weather. Our technology has advanced more in the past 50 years than it has in any other period of human history. We can do much more than your Middle Age alchemist, and we can much more to our environment than you seem to believe.
It seems that we're butting heads over the idea that what we're doing to environment can actually cause what's going on in the world. You keep the effects of the toxins that we're dumping out local, while I and the global climate scientists of the world extrapolate out the effects to span the globe. This is an issue of logic, and an issue of understanding. I think decades of pollution that pushes out Carbon Dioxide on a scale thousands of times than anything seen before can certainly cause the atmosphere to stop the sun's rays as well as it used to, and to heat the Earth more than normal. You don't. I don't really think we can argue this point any further.