More "good" news for TNA: Chyna

[TheKingHustla]

I totally understand, Brian in Austin, and I agree with you. But I also understand that while they took the chance and hired Hardy, and now Chyna, they gambled. For the most part in the beginning, they won with Hardy. Hardy was if not the biggest, the top three names in TNA when he was there. He was a huge draw, and they reeked the benefits of it. When he fell flat on his face, he made the company look bad, but he made himself look worse. TNA didn't really lose too many fans because they hired him, they might have lost fans because he wasn't there anymore, but not because they hired him in the first place. The limited and short lived success of Hardy, and now, possibly Chyna, outweighs the inevitable face plant. Atleast from a financial stand point. I think (and all I can really do is guess at this) that they gain a lot of fans from the Hardy signing, because Hardy had tons of fans, and many of them are still TNA fans today. The same might work for Chyna. We can't really tell right now until this situation plays itself out.

 

[Brian in Austin]

I agree that it would be impossible for us, and maybe even those at TNA, to know what the impact of Chyna or Hardy was to the fanbase or the subsequent fall from grace that Hardy took. So I'm on your side with that part of it.

My issue continues to be that I question their decision-making process when deciding to bring in a talent. If I'm sitting in the room, I bring up the character issues like drug use, alchohol-abuse, and in the case of Chyna, her daliance in porn and ask the question if anyone else has concerns about those issues.

In the end, it's water under the bridge now and consequently, time to move on. I only hope that the talent that's already there, and not causing trouble, gets their fair shot at face time.

 

[911 JP]

Her agent reports that the TMZ report is not true. "All rumors relating to Chyna and porn are totally false and should be taken with a grain of salt." This category seems like a pointless if this is true.

Yet on th WZ main page it says that the Trailer has been released. So yea it is an issue, and if Chyna is going to represent herslef in such a poor way then it will always reflect on TNA, why dont they hire some new young guys who are trying to make a name for themselves and push them, that will give them a good rap. Bloated old has beens such as Chyna and Scott Hall is poor talent and will reflect on TNA's image.

 

[The Dewbliners]

Yet on th WZ main page it says that the Trailer has been released. So yea it is an issue, and if Chyna is going to represent herslef in such a poor way then it will always reflect on TNA, why dont they hire some new young guys who are trying to make a name for themselves and push them, that will give them a good rap. Bloated old has beens such as Chyna and Scott Hall is poor talent and will reflect on TNA's image.

Again, this will NOT (or shouldn't, anyway) reflect negatively on TNA. Why should it? She had two or three appearances, and has now moved on. Hell, I may even go purchase this new DVD. Looks fairly slick, and it stars more than Chyna and a couple of "stuntcocks".

 

[TheKingHustla]

why dont they hire some new young guys who are trying to make a name for themselves and push them, that will give them a good rap. Bloated old has beens such as Chyna and Scott Hall is poor talent and will reflect on TNA's image.

What is the point of having a good rap if no one tunes in to watch it? With TNA being secondary to the WWE, they need to have big names on their show in order to get more viewers. They already have young talent that they can push if they want to, but they need viewers to tune in, and with them signing Chyna and other old guys, they are trying to reel in the older fans who remember watching them and is not pleased with the WWE's more family friendly product.

It's all about numbers when you look at the entire scheme of things, and which would draw more numbers, Chyna and Scott Hall, or Unknown Guy A and Unknown Guy B?

 

[ABMorales787]

You people would drool cum from your mouths if Velvet Sky, Sarita or any other Knockout were the one starring the flick and not give an absolute crap about TNA getting negative flack over it. I guarantee it. Hypocrites, the lot of you.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

 

[Brian in Austin]

What is the point of having a good rap if no one tunes in to watch it? With TNA being secondary to the WWE, they need to have big names on their show in order to get more viewers. They already have young talent that they can push if they want to, but they need viewers to tune in, and with them signing Chyna and other old guys, they are trying to reel in the older fans who remember watching them and is not pleased with the WWE's more family friendly product.

It's all about numbers when you look at the entire scheme of things, and which would draw more numbers, Chyna and Scott Hall, or Unknown Guy A and Unknown Guy B?

Well you bring up a very interesting point of discussion. So let's discuss it. You mention Chyna/Scott Hall v. Unknown guy a or b. Now, if I'm to understand a LOT of the chatter that goes on here, people want good storylines, good wrestling/physicality, and good characters. Now it is with all due respect, and I mean this in all sincerity and not in a smartalecky way, wouldn't a "real" wrestling fan want a new guy to get his shot? Wouldn't or shouldn't we all want the 'boys in the back' to someday get their shot? Or have wrestling fans fallen so far that they just want the freak show? i.e. Chyna, a drunk/drugged up Scott Hall, a high Jeff Hardy, and a 62 year old man in Ric Flair who bleeds nearly every time out and looks like he's going to have a stroke on camera?

I for one would MUCH RATHER see a guy like Jay Lethal, who is athletic, and charismatic, get a chance to shine, rather than watch Chyna work less than 10 minutes in a match and leave. I'd much rather see James Storm work a match with Chris Daniels, AJ Styles, or Joe, than to see Ric Flair come out, tear his clothes off, screaming at the top of his lungs (again) about how he's "God", and then start elbow dropping his allegedly custom made jacket. I'd much rather watch Bubba Ray work a match with Crimson, or someone like Hernandez, than to watch Jeff Hardy stumble down the ramp, smoking a cigarette, high as a kite, only to essentially collapse in the ring because he's unable to compete.

Point is, I read a LOT about what guys CLAIM they want to see, but they really don't. What they WANT are the train wrecks. They want the trash because it's what they like. Just look at the comments about Velvet Sky. Why do you THINK guys like her? She's not a very good wrestler. So what is it? Eye candy! Pure and simple. If she did a layout for Playboy, it would sell out in about 2 seconds. I'd much rather see her improve her wrestling ability because if she did, think how big she could become in the world of pro wrestling?! As it is, she's a one-trick (no pun intended) pony.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[TheKingHustla]

Well you bring up a very interesting point of discussion. So let's discuss it. You mention Chyna/Scott Hall v. Unknown guy a or b. Now, if I'm to understand a LOT of the chatter that goes on here, people want good storylines, good wrestling/physicality, and good characters. Now it is with all due respect, and I mean this in all sincerity and not in a smartalecky way, wouldn't a "real" wrestling fan want a new guy to get his shot? Wouldn't or shouldn't we all want the 'boys in the back' to someday get their shot? Or have wrestling fans fallen so far that they just want the freak show? i.e. Chyna, a drunk/drugged up Scott Hall, a high Jeff Hardy, and a 62 year old man in Ric Flair who bleeds nearly every time out and looks like he's going to have a stroke on camera?

I for one would MUCH RATHER see a guy like Jay Lethal, who is athletic, and charismatic, get a chance to shine, rather than watch Chyna work less than 10 minutes in a match and leave. I'd much rather see James Storm work a match with Chris Daniels, AJ Styles, or Joe, than to see Ric Flair come out, tear his clothes off, screaming at the top of his lungs (again) about how he's "God", and then start elbow dropping his allegedly custom made jacket. I'd much rather watch Bubba Ray work a match with Crimson, or someone like Hernandez, than to watch Jeff Hardy stumble down the ramp, smoking a cigarette, high as a kite, only to essentially collapse in the ring because he's unable to compete.

Point is, I read a LOT about what guys CLAIM they want to see, but they really don't. What they WANT are the train wrecks. They want the trash because it's what they like. Just look at the comments about Velvet Sky. Why do you THINK guys like her? She's not a very good wrestler. So what is it? Eye candy! Pure and simple. If she did a layout for Playboy, it would sell out in about 2 seconds. I'd much rather see her improve her wrestling ability because if she did, think how big she could become in the world of pro wrestling?! As it is, she's a one-trick (no pun intended) pony.

Just my 2 cents.

I understand. One thing I've noticed is that the the Internet fans (not you inparticular, but Internet fans in general) have a way of asking for things they don't really want. They complain and complain but when the thing they ask for happens, some are still not satisfied because it's not how they would have done it exactly. Like you mentioned, Velvet Sky, and many other Knockouts/Divas, they can't wrestle that well, but they have fans because of sex appeal. If it's not the female wrestler that they want to see nude or whatever, they aren't happy and it's the worst thing for the company.

You can also look at the current WWE main event. Many people here and around the net were complaining about the same old same old, Cena vs Miz crap. Now, we are given a great story with The Truth and Cena, and some still have the nerve to complain. Nothing satisfies them.

Many people say they want to see those guys but in actuality, if they were given it, they would feel like it's not how they would have done it. I honestly think that smart companies wouldn't even pay attention to Internet fans because they are so unhappy. So focus more on the casual fans who recognize names more than potential.

And maybe they can get some porn fans to tune in to watch her.... just a stupid thought, lol.

 

[Brian in Austin]

I understand. One thing I've noticed is that the the Internet fans (not you inparticular, but Internet fans in general) have a way of asking for things they don't really want. They complain and complain but when the thing they ask for happens, some are still not satisfied because it's not how they would have done it exactly. Like you mentioned, Velvet Sky, and many other Knockouts/Divas, they can't wrestle that well, but they have fans because of sex appeal. If it's not the female wrestler that they want to see nude or whatever, they aren't happy and it's the worst thing for the company.

You can also look at the current WWE main event. Many people here and around the net were complaining about the same old same old, Cena vs Miz crap. Now, we are given a great story with The Truth and Cena, and some still have the nerve to complain. Nothing satisfies them.

Many people say they want to see those guys but in actuality, if they were given it, they would feel like it's not how they would have done it. I honestly think that smart companies wouldn't even pay attention to Internet fans because they are so unhappy. So focus more on the casual fans who recognize names more than potential.

And maybe they can get some porn fans to tune in to watch her.... just a stupid thought, lol.

Ahhhh, the casual fan. It's the great mystery for every sport who courts those 'casual' fans out there, trying desperately to get their attention and more importantly, to keep it. I can see where for a wrestling company doing that would be really tough. At least with the NFL, MLB, or NBA, it's the same product game after game and they have the luxury of host (see home team) cities for their product. With wrestling it's a worldwide product that has to appeal to so many different cultures, fan bases, and opinions that it's literally like hitting the bullseye with your eyes closed.

I agree with you that in the end, someone is always going to complain no matter what the circumstances or outcomes. I for one am glad we have choices and glad we have both companies. I hope ROH, with its new tv deal will offer even more competition in the future.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

How did they manage to rope Dylan Ryder into doing this? I mean seriously.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

Who cares if Chyna is getting shafted by two guys up her shithole in her new film? Not me?

She did her job well in TNA for that show, and then she left. Who did she harm? No-one

Do I think less of TNA for hiring her if they knew she was going to release this film? No I dont, I think they made a great choice in bringing her in. And it went down well.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

Again, this will NOT (or shouldn't, anyway) reflect negatively on TNA. Why should it? She had two or three appearances, and has now moved on. Hell, I may even go purchase this new DVD. Looks fairly slick, and it stars more than Chyna and a couple of "stuntcocks".

You do realise it wll probably feature Chyna's clito-penis, right?