More "good" news for TNA: Chyna

Well apparently Joanie Laurer has once again graced the silver screen (or should I say DVD box cover) with another adult tape she's been in. Yep, it was great bringing in such a classy lady for a one-off PPV event.

When are the folks who run TNA going to figure out how to do background checks (even a minimal check) to ensure the talent they hire is worthy of representing their brand?

It's not a shocker to hear that the world of wrestling is recruiting an individual of nefarious reputation to take part in their programming. Do the names Hank The Angry Drunken Dwarf and Jenna Jameson ring any bells to the folks who used to watch the World Wrestling Federation? Both of them have been involved in the world of raunch and controversy. Also, let us also not forget the raunchy shit we've seen in WWF that they've done without the help of outside performers, please see "Katie Vick" and "Mae Young Births A Hand" if anyone here needs a reminder.

Also WWE "supposedly" wanted to get Chyna for the Hall of Fame next year before she agreed to this brief TNA appearance. I don't know if that's really true or not but the internet had been buzzing about it. The fact is we already knew Chyna had a track record for controversy. WWE and TNA don't seem to care about her involvement in the adult film industry if what we've heard on the net about her relationship with both organizations is true.

But I guess my big question for you is this, why do you really care so much about this to be honest? Granted, it's not something I'd want to see but as far as I know her adult film appearances have been with consenting adults. It's not like she's doing bestiality or kiddie porn. Again other wrestling organizations in the past have worked with people of ill-repute, so what's the big deal about TNA doing it now? Not to say your opinion is invalid or not welcomed on a discussion like this, but if you look at the history of the wrestling business these people aren't known for seeking out the purest of individuals. I don't see that changing anytime soon either.

And I almost forgot but Pee-Wee Herman just a few months ago was a guest host in the PG ERA of WWE...and if anyone here knows about his history this guy was found *********ing in public at an adult theater also he had another sex related controversy in 2002 (Click here for information on this case), in which he was not allowed to be in the presence of minors for a period of three years following his 2002 porn bust. Granted this is not a WWE thread but just the same, I feel it's essential that we not be so quick to criticize TNA's product when we know they're not the only one guilty of this tactic, so I welcome you to expand a bit more on your original point that you were trying to make with this thread because I don't think it's got a real strong set of legs to stand on. But I'm open to hear more about where you're coming from on this point.
 
yeah, it's not much of an issue for tna, but I am suprised nobodies mentioned that Mickie James did porn back in the day. Not knocking anyone for doing what they gotta do to make money and quite frankly am glad Mickie did one. She's hot
 
This is a surprise to who? It's very well known that she's been in some adult films, how is this a big scandal, or whatever it is you're trying to make it out as? This is pro wrestling. A woman once gave birth to a plastic hand on tv during a pro wrestling show, I didn't realize they were only hiring Ivy League professors now...
 
Just wow, okay so Brian in Austin takes an exceptionally dim view of porn stars, despite the fact they provide a valuable public service. Who cares if Chyna's done some more porn? I mean really, it's about time she got a proper pay day for one of her sex tapes!
 
TNA employs drug addicts, WWE has beens,Z list celebrities,and Tommy Dreamer so it would be another day at the office if they brought on a sex ****e to their company

Oh yes and WWE always hits the nail on the head with their attempts at doing everything right, *cough cough* XFL and World Bodybuilding Federation. So what if Chyna did porn and worked with them for a one off appearance. Are we going to act like WWE only employs people who have been decreed pure by the Pope?

Dumbass...
 
Oh yes and WWE always hits the nail on the head with their attempts at doing everything right, *cough cough* XFL and World Bodybuilding Federation. So what if Chyna did porn and worked with them for a one off appearance. Are we going to act like WWE only employs people who have been decreed pure by the Pope?

Dumbass...

Here we go again.
 
First off if she did do it how would TNA have known she did as it is just now being announced.

Second off you are reporting a rumor from TMZ which according to Beauty Queen Management, who represent Chyna claims the rumors of her doing a porn scene are "totally untrue".

Maybe we should wait to see if there really is a porn movie before we start throwing the first stone. Oh and once again how could this be blamed on TNA I really would like to know.



What I'm saying here is that Joanie had already done at least one other movie before she signed with TNA for her appearances. Not to mention she's had addiction issues. (there's a shocker, TNA hiring an addict)

In the end, I guess I should just say this is par for the course for a company that seems to pride itself on hiring addicts, and broken down old men whose primes have passed.
 
It's not a shocker to hear that the world of wrestling is recruiting an individual of nefarious reputation to take part in their programming. Do the names Hank The Angry Drunken Dwarf and Jenna Jameson ring any bells to the folks who used to watch the World Wrestling Federation? Both of them have been involved in the world of raunch and controversy. Also, let us also not forget the raunchy shit we've seen in WWF that they've done without the help of outside performers, please see "Katie Vick" and "Mae Young Births A Hand" if anyone here needs a reminder.

Also WWE "supposedly" wanted to get Chyna for the Hall of Fame next year before she agreed to this brief TNA appearance. I don't know if that's really true or not but the internet had been buzzing about it. The fact is we already knew Chyna had a track record for controversy. WWE and TNA don't seem to care about her involvement in the adult film industry if what we've heard on the net about her relationship with both organizations is true.

But I guess my big question for you is this, why do you really care so much about this to be honest? Granted, it's not something I'd want to see but as far as I know her adult film appearances have been with consenting adults. It's not like she's doing bestiality or kiddie porn. Again other wrestling organizations in the past have worked with people of ill-repute, so what's the big deal about TNA doing it now? Not to say your opinion is invalid or not welcomed on a discussion like this, but if you look at the history of the wrestling business these people aren't known for seeking out the purest of individuals. I don't see that changing anytime soon either.

And I almost forgot but Pee-Wee Herman just a few months ago was a guest host in the PG ERA of WWE...and if anyone here knows about his history this guy was found *********ing in public at an adult theater also he had another sex related controversy in 2002 (Click here for information on this case), in which he was not allowed to be in the presence of minors for a period of three years following his 2002 porn bust. Granted this is not a WWE thread but just the same, I feel it's essential that we not be so quick to criticize TNA's product when we know they're not the only one guilty of this tactic, so I welcome you to expand a bit more on your original point that you were trying to make with this thread because I don't think it's got a real strong set of legs to stand on. But I'm open to hear more about where you're coming from on this point.



Since this thread is about TNA, I care not about the issues with WWE. I WILL remain focused on TNA and THEIR decision-making. So let's do that shall we?

1. Hulk Hogan - Multiple back surgeries, multiple off-screen issues, and most of his 'it' factor gone.

2. Ric Flair - 62 years old, now with a torn rotator , but along the way used in squash matches with Jay Lethal, as Lethal ripped his clothes off of him. Great way for a 16 time champ to go out. (not to mention his penchant for blading these days.)

3. Jeff Hardy - Do I really need to go into this decision? Really?

4. Scott Hall - Ditto on that one.

5. XPac - Starting to sound like a broken record.

6. Chyna - Wow, I see a pattern emerging here.

My point continues to be that while they ARE making good strides, i.e. the Impact Zone changes, more wrestling, shorter promos, more focus on the X division, they KEEP on making these stupid moves in hopes of getting a pop or a push for PPV buys. Surely there is enough available wrestling talent out there they could bring to tv and build instead of relying on addicts with personality disorders. Are you telling me Chyna was the "best available" to them? Really?

I just think it speaks of the poor decision-making skills of those in charge of talent relations that they keep on throwing good money after bad with some of their choices. Either that, or there really are no talented wrestlers out there anymore. So which is it?
 
When did wrestling fans become morality cops?

Quick FACT for you JUDGES of LIFE:

Attitude Era drew the BIGGEST RATINGS IN WWE HISTORY.

... and they had an Octogenarian give birth to a hand.

I am sure everyone who watched and enjoyed that is rotting in hell as we speak.

:banghead:
 
Boo-hoo. Somebody recorded themselves mid-coitus. Big fuckin' deal! Chyna is a big girl, and can make her own decisions.

As for this being "bad for the company formerly known as TNA", I don't see it. The first tape was long enough ago, it shouldn't matter, and the alleged new tape just broke today. So, y'know, no big.
 
Wow. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites. I bet you wouldn't be pissing on this if it were Velvet Sky doing it.
 
What does Chyna filming a porno have anything to do with TNA or WWE? She isn't employed by either company, and only made a one time appearance with TNA. Just another excuse to turn this into another WWE vs. TNA thread. I have no desire to see Chyna's man clit again, but I'm sure there are some sick people that will. At least she has a job.
 
Wow. This has certainly sparked some interesting debate. Someone asked for the question of why this is so bad to be answered.

Let me take a shot at it. TNA is a company trying to build their brand. Now in doing so, they have choices to make. What KIND of company do they want to be viewed as? Do they want to push the limits of good/bad taste to see how much their audience will put up with? Or will they resist that temptation and instead opt for building their company by way of bringing in great athletes who can also tell a compelling and physical story in the ring?

Judging by their past choices, TNA has chosen the lessor of the options and it's bothersome to me as a fan who wants to continue watching that this is the path they've chosen. I was happy to see them take Jeff Hardy off television, glad they got rid of Hall, Nash, and Waltman. All bad seeds who should never have been brought in to begin with.

But once again, with the temporary hire of Laurer, TNA once again has shown they will take the low road when given the opportunity, instead of hiring quality. Whether temporary or not, this was a bad decision and put TNA in a bad light.
 
Wow. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites. I bet you wouldn't be pissing on this if it were Velvet Sky doing it.



On the contrary. I've actually said that Sky, while very good on the mic, is horrible in the ring. She needs a LOT of work to get her up to speed to be able to credibly tell a story in the ring. I see James, Winter, Love, and ODB all as better than Sky technically. I also thought Alyssa Flash was much better as well. Kong was compelling. There were a couple others who are also now gone but can't recall their names, who I felt were better than Sky.
 
On the contrary. I've actually said that Sky, while very good on the mic, is horrible in the ring. She needs a LOT of work to get her up to speed to be able to credibly tell a story in the ring. I see James, Winter, Love, and ODB all as better than Sky technically. I also thought Alyssa Flash was much better as well. Kong was compelling. There were a couple others who are also now gone but can't recall their names, who I felt were better than Sky.

Here's talking about porn movies here, son. I don't really care for her matches in this particular case.
 
Wow. This has certainly sparked some interesting debate. Someone asked for the question of why this is so bad to be answered.

Let me take a shot at it. TNA is a company trying to build their brand. Now in doing so, they have choices to make. What KIND of company do they want to be viewed as? Do they want to push the limits of good/bad taste to see how much their audience will put up with? Or will they resist that temptation and instead opt for building their company by way of bringing in great athletes who can also tell a compelling and physical story in the ring?

Judging by their past choices, TNA has chosen the lessor of the options and it's bothersome to me as a fan who wants to continue watching that this is the path they've chosen. I was happy to see them take Jeff Hardy off television, glad they got rid of Hall, Nash, and Waltman. All bad seeds who should never have been brought in to begin with.

But once again, with the temporary hire of Laurer, TNA once again has shown they will take the low road when given the opportunity, instead of hiring quality. Whether temporary or not, this was a bad decision and put TNA in a bad light.
Yeah. They totally should've hired Briana Banks or Eva Angelina instead.
 
Yeah but Eva Angelina isn't classy in Brian's eyes...just because of her career choice.

I'm assuming this person is in the adult film industry so I'll say no, she's not classy. Not in my view. I would hope one would have more dignity than to feel that the only way to earn a living was to do something like that.
 
Chyna isn't even employed by TNA anymore. She was a one time deal.

The new porn was a rumor by TMZ.
 
Holy shit, this is the worst thread I have ever seen.

Serious question -- how does Chyna (or ANYONE) doing porn have ANYTHING to do with either wrestling promotion?
 
Since this thread is about TNA, I care not about the issues with WWE. I WILL remain focused on TNA and THEIR decision-making. So let's do that shall we?

1. Hulk Hogan - Multiple back surgeries, multiple off-screen issues, and most of his 'it' factor gone.

2. Ric Flair - 62 years old, now with a torn rotator , but along the way used in squash matches with Jay Lethal, as Lethal ripped his clothes off of him. Great way for a 16 time champ to go out. (not to mention his penchant for blading these days.)

3. Jeff Hardy - Do I really need to go into this decision? Really?

4. Scott Hall - Ditto on that one.

5. XPac - Starting to sound like a broken record.

6. Chyna - Wow, I see a pattern emerging here.

My point continues to be that while they ARE making good strides, i.e. the Impact Zone changes, more wrestling, shorter promos, more focus on the X division, they KEEP on making these stupid moves in hopes of getting a pop or a push for PPV buys. Surely there is enough available wrestling talent out there they could bring to tv and build instead of relying on addicts with personality disorders. Are you telling me Chyna was the "best available" to them? Really?

I just think it speaks of the poor decision-making skills of those in charge of talent relations that they keep on throwing good money after bad with some of their choices. Either that, or there really are no talented wrestlers out there anymore. So which is it?

1. Hulk Hogan - Love him or hate him, is still the icon of professional wrestling (and yeah I said professional wrestling and not sports entertainment, I can't wait till someone shows up at my door with a cease and desist order to challenge me on that). To be fair to Hogan he has only wrestled ONE match and that was OVER a year ago. And on top of it, he didn't even go for the glory in that match, it was an attempt to get Abyss over and obviously it didn't work to the extent Hogan and TNA wanted it to, but they tried.

Prior to his back surgeries he could have wrestled a lot more and have asked for a World Title run and probably gotten it, but he didn't. And since he's yet to wrestle since his back surgery, let's reserve judgment on what he's going to do until he actually tries to do it. As far as his personal life goes, irrelevant does that mean that Stone Cold Steve Austin should never be allowed on television again or have anyone invest in him after he went to court not once but TWICE in domestic assaults on not ONE but TWO different women? So Hogan chose not to give up certain creative freedoms by going back to WWE, I don't blame him.

2. Ric Flair - I will admit him wrestling is not a pretty sight but like Hogan he doesn't have the belt, and he's not dominating the scene, do I think him wrestling is necessary, I really don't think so. So on this point I can see where you're coming from, but in comparison to Hogan I think you're splitting hairs.

3. Jeff Hardy - He fucked up, plain and simple and obviously he's paying the price for that, but hey WWE took the same risk when they resigned him in 2006. Things happen, but it seems as if TNA is handling the situation now by not having him on TV. It would be one thing if you still saw him on there.

4. Scott Hall - He's gone too, I'm sure it didn't break the bank that TNA signed him in the first place to come back and they found a way to get rid of him without it affecting anything major. Again it's not like he was invested in any main event storylines, the Earth was not revolving around his presence.

5. X-Pac - Same thing and if I remember right rumor has it that the "E" signed him back, so what do you have to say about that?

6. Chyna - I said all I had to say about her in my initial reply to you.

I'm not saying that I disagree with you on how they use some of the legends in the company, but at the same time the only guys from WWE that have won the World Title have been people that are not in their 50s or 60s yet. Anderson, RVD and Hardy are all guys that could still go, well the latter is showing what the drugs are doing to him now, but at one point Hardy still had a little bit of something until it all hit the fan.

But guys like Hogan, Flair, Hall and X-Pac all stayed away from competing for the TNA World Title and I think that should say something. Chyna was a one time deal as far as we know, and it wasn't bad in some respects for a spike in nostalgia, considering her history with Jeff Jarrett.

There's only so much that a company that's only 9 years old can do because even with a guy like Hulk Hogan who's pushing 60 there's no way you can even recapture what he was able to do in WCW. And for those that think WCW was a young company when Hogan jumped there, it wasn't anyone that really knows wrestling knows that WCW really started when Jim Crockett, Sr. established his territory. Jim Crockett Promotions was to WCW much like what WWWF was to WWF/E. Both of the respective organizations had major followings and established roots before Ted Turner bought the company from the Crockett Family and Vince Jr bought Capital Wrestling Corporation from his father. TNA does not have that luxury of history. For all its good and bad TNA has been around for almost a decade and for what it's worth the Carters have done a much more respectable job into jumping into a venture that is not their business specialty. I think that deserves some credit too.

Overall though, I can respect your strong feelings on this point and can understand where you're coming from on some points, but not on all of them.
 
1. Hulk Hogan - Love him or hate him, is still the icon of professional wrestling (and yeah I said professional wrestling and not sports entertainment, I can't wait till someone shows up at my door with a cease and desist order to challenge me on that).

Okay, I will. When was the last time that guy drew? I'm thinking early 90s. Fact is, he WAS the icon. He was the face of wrestling maybe 3 generations ago. Today, when the general person thinks of wrestling, they think of either Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, or John Cena, because these guys were here when wrestling was at the height of its popularity, while Hogan and his friends were effectively killing WCW.
 

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