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Money In The Bank A Curse?

Jtrivera

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Ever since money in the bank started we have seen some good wrestlers achieve the big one, a world or wwe but at what cost? Winning the title is good but when they lose it, they get shot back down to the mid carder level, and I'm not referring to edge or even punk I'm talking about guys like Miz, Swagger, Kane, and after tonight maybe even del rio, so the question here is, do you think that there's a purpose behind money in the bank, or is it just an excuse to test the waters with a mid carder as champion?
 
I think it's becoming a bit diluted. If went from being 6-8 guys from the entire roster on one of the marque events a the biggest PPV of the year to two matches at a PPV with both brands. Couple that with the fact you go from established stars like Edge, RVD and Punk to water-testers like Swagger Del Rio and Bryan. There's still a purpose to it, but it just seems like shock factor is winning out over who should actually benefit the most from winning. It's also being used as a crutch since the writers have just refused to build up a heel from the ground up. (Henry notwithstanding)
 
Miz never was really midcard to be honest, he feuded with Riley to step away from the WWE Title and then Punk struck gold and Miz was still main event just not a title contender. As for Swagger his downfall was his dreadful mic skills and charisma. Kane however was made Champion out of respect due to him only having a few title reigns not even credible to be honest. He was interesting though. I guarantee Bryan will cash in on CM Punk next year. I see it happening for some reason.
 
its not really a curse its more like wwe dragging there heels with the future (ie jack swagger.) Swagger had so much steam coming off his whc title win from jericho. I mean the sky was the limit for this kid. Then after he loses the whc to edge i believe they stick him with the soaring eagle (who we all know was chavo) Another example i can give would have to be rvd. I mean everyone thought (myself included that he was perfect to represent ECW in the new era. I mean he cashed mitb @ ons beat john cena and had all that backing from the fans to boot. Then from the magical brain of vkm he gets beat by big show (hmmm i wonder how that worked out?) They quickly used ecw as a breeding ground so to speak for the future after bigshow won
 
Maybe if RVD didn't get arrested for driving high with Sabu he wouldn't have lost the belts the way he did lol, he screwed himself so the magical mind of VKM had nothing to do with it, him losing was a punishment for him not taking his new position seriously
 
It's pointless. They're handed the belt on a silver platter. Nobody wins it the old fashioned way anymore. Beating champion clean > MitB
 
It's hit and miss.

half the MITB winners have had amazing runs, the other half fizzled.

MITB is being used as a testing ground for sink and swim, Swagger sank, Miz, Edge, Kane swam, and we're still to see where Del Rio goes, and how D-bri does with his.

It's not a curse, because it's propelled stars into the MITB, since the IC and US titles got demoted to worthlessness.
 
Miz never was really midcard to be honest, he feuded with Riley to step away from the WWE Title and then Punk struck gold and Miz was still main event just not a title contender. As for Swagger his downfall was his dreadful mic skills and charisma. Kane however was made Champion out of respect due to him only having a few title reigns not even credible to be honest. He was interesting though. I guarantee Bryan will cash in on CM Punk next year. I see it happening for some reason.

Unless CM Punk gets the world title on Smackdown, I don't see that happening at all... and I honestly believe that the ones who do see it are delusional indy marks who can't get their brains back to reality.

If anything, DB will use this MITB to feud with Henry where he'll become the first to lose.

As for the MITB being a curse, I don't see it. In every case, except Swagger, the MITB winners were always kept around the main event spot. Miz and R-Truth are both being used to give credit to the tag team division, while also building Bourne and Kofi as viable champions.

Alberto Del Rio will undoubtedly be put into the next match for the WWE title and the two will probably feud until Survivor Series with it ending in Team Rock & Cena vs. Team Del Rio.

CM Punk in his first run won the WHC, IC title, and Tag Team title within a six month period and would later win the MITB again which resulted in two more World title reigns. And after that, he was used in high profile rivalries against Rey Mysterio and Big Show before coming back to Raw and joining New Nexus. In New Nexus, he rivaled both John Cena and Randy Orton which had two high profile matches for each person. Then recently, he struck gold with a promo and soared to new heights where he became WWE Champion, a new big time player, and is now in the highest profile storyline of the WWE. Hardly think that's a curse.

Jack Swagger is probably the only exception that the argument can work for, but even then, he's got the look and physical skill to be world champion again but he just needs a valid manager. Like Vickie or even Matt Striker.'

Again, I don't really see the arguments here. Every MITB champion has benefited from this from a huge outlook and have come out to be very big time players. Sure, they may dwindle from the Main Event scene, but come on... it's not like every match on the card can be the main event.
 
Curse? No
Concept pimped out? Yes

There is only so much one concept can do before it needs to evolve and change, and WWE pretty much added more guys to the match, then they added high flyers could pick spots here and there, then it became Mania's opening match/Second from start.

Next thing it has it's own PPV, WWE KILLED MITB with overload.

One MITB match per year @ WrestleMania is enough, it makes the winner that bit more special where as winning it on some joe blow ppv doesn't have the effect, thou MITB 2011 is the best PPV quality matches WWE has produced this year the general feeling of the winner isn't all that special, where Mania you felt like they were a legit star in the making.

No curse just WWE doing what they do best, pimping out concepts until they mean jackshit.
 
It's pointless. They're handed the belt on a silver platter. Nobody wins it the old fashioned way anymore. Beating champion clean > MitB

The Jeff Hardy way? (as I call it)

Many title matches and failed at the last possibly moment then BANG he wins it and everyone needed to see him win it once?

I agree, I like MITB's concept thou, but only one match per year. And don't give it to guys as trial and error, give to guys who DESERVE the damn title, if they cash in under heelish tactics then cool, but it could be awesome to see someone do the RVD/Bryan route and announce ahead of time they'll cash in here or there.
 
MITB isnt a curse at all granted miz maybe in the mid card again but hes also in a tag team with truth which i really like but dont worry soon enough hes back into the title picture hes being groomed as the face of the company already and now lets talk about the other MITB winners (besides edge because after winning the belt he was out of the midcard for the rest of his career)

Punk's 1st world title run: honestly i dont think he was quite ready here to be a full time main eventer which is why he didnt have a long title run my only complinant about his run here was his fued with JBL was horrible and he didnt even techically lose the title via orton punting him backstage.

Punk's 2nd world title run: had an amazing fued with jeff hardy which was possibly THE BEST fued jeff hardy had in his whole career! punk did amazing here and i was bummed he got screwed after losing it but oh well now hes a huge star.

Kane: do i really need to explain why he went back to the mid card after dropping the belt? :lmao:

Del Rio: he just flat out sucks hes decent at best on the mic (you can say hes good all you want but being good on the mic means doing more then cutting the same fucking promo EVERY TIME YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH! all he says "its my destiny,i took out the little chiwawa (sorry i cant spell tht word and im not looking it up for you people either) rey mysterio and then a creepy wink while laughing and making himself look ******ed based off his hand motions)

i think if booked right daniel bryan could have great sucess like edge had from cashing in money in the bank as hes got the talent to be a full time main eventer and hes good on the mic as well just needs to start kicking ass and taking names.
 
The problem is they think the case makes the star. In most instances, they give the briefcase to a guy and then stop building him. Look at Del Rio or Bryan. Sure, Del Rio cashed in and won, but not before several weeks of being underutilized. This is also why guys like Jack Swagger, who have cashed in and won the title, flame out -- if they'd been built up prior to winning the belt, it'd be much more impactful.
 
Money in the Bank is not a curse. It has helped people break into the main event ever since 2006. Edge became The Ultimate Opportunist. RVD became WWE Champion while already ECW Champion and would have seen a larger lasting push had it not been for his own personal mistakes. Punk got his first world title reign followed by MITB getting him into the main event scene the second time along with a heel turn. Swagger saw a taste of main eventing but his fall was due to bad booking. Kane will always be over, he is a popular veteran and MITB did nothing but help him. It gave him his most memorable moments since his masked days and his best title reign. Miz became a top guy and has yet to fall, WWE is giving him things to do while helping elevate Truth by association. Del Rio only JUST lost the title, big things may still be in store for him as a main eventer. Bryan's being built up HUGE for a cash in later this year.

Yeah, sounds nothing like a curse if you ask me. The only two duds were RVD with making bad decisions to end his push, and Swagger who got hit with a case of bad booking. Everyone else has gone on to be successful or in Kane's case regain some momentum. The Money in the Bank concept is anything but a curse. On the contrary, it is a way for midcarders wanting to break the glass ceiling to get their foot into the door when it comes to main eventing. With the proper booking and having the necessary skills, it leads to main eventing and a successful career afterwards.
 

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