Monday Night Raw=S.O.S

[AngryCenaFan]

Same Old Shit.

Every single week.

When they do cross brand shows there is always some sort of tag team match involving the two champions, and their challengers in some way....

John Cena always comes out on top after every feud, the predictability of his outcomes become increasingly more boring especially the RAW after PPV's.

Orton and Cena should stop hogging the glory and use their positions to actually put people over, you know why fans are behind Alex Riley and Zack Ryder? BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THE SAME CONTRIVED BORING SAME OLD SHIT!

 

[Johnny Scumm]

It's not the "Same old shit" every week as you say actually.

This week, we saw a new match in Bourne vs Ryan, a great Triple Threat, which we definitely didn't see last week and a 6 Man Main Event, which I don't remember the last time that happened.

Now, it has been cross-branded the past 2 weeks and I think it may be next week as well, BUT it's still quite enjoyable. I thought that last weeks' Raw wasn't great, but this weeks was definitely a lot better. We had a big announcement from CM Punk, we don't get things like that every week either.

Also, the Smackdown Superstars get DOUBLE the Air Time, unlike the Raw Stars, which in my eyes is a brilliant thing. I've always thought Smackdown to be the better brand and this extra airing helps them along. once Raw goes back to 2 Hours & no specials, you'll just get back into the Raw mode, with no Smackdown Superstars and things will be a bit different. Especially with MiTB coming along, it's need to be totally focused on each brand separately.

I see where you're coming from here, but it's not all the "S.O.S" you're going after.

 

[WWWYKI777]

Well the main event is the main point and the main event is always the "S.O.S"

So is the divas division , a short divas match ended in a shitty way on RAW as usual too

I agree with the OP this is stupid , we do want A-Ry and Long Island Iced Z on top not Orton/Cena

 

[The Suplexer Perfecter]

CM Punk becoming #1 contender isn't the same old shit.

I agree with the OP this is stupid , we do want A-Ry and Long Island Iced Z on top not Orton/Cena

Ryder is a joke. A comedy guy as a top face? No. That's like giving Eugene or Santino the WWE title.

Alex Riley is nowhere near ready for the top.

Remember when people were wanting Miz to get to the top and bitching how he was buried by Cena in 2009? Well people bitched about his WWE title run.

 

[mrwilliams061088]

I agree %100 with Jerichoholic4Life. When is the last time we saw a 6 man elimination tag team match, and a triple threat falls count anywhere match on raw? Definitely not the same ol crap. This week's raw was way better than last week's if i say so myself. Wasn't great but definitely better. And of course the 2 world champions are going to come out on top, they're the world champions!!! You can't have your champions looking weak. A-ry is good and definitely going to be a maineventer one day but the guys been face for like a month, you can't just hand him the world title. And Zack Ryder? give me a break! What is so great about him? Is it because he makes youtube videos? I don't get it. This guy is not a maineventer and I really wish people would stop saying how he's the future of wrestling because well..... HE'S NOT!!!!!!

 

[WWWYKI777]

CM Punk becoming #1 contender isn't the same old shit.

Ryder is a joke. A comedy guy as a top face? No. That's like giving Eugene or Santino the WWE title.

Alex Riley is nowhere near ready for the top.

Remember when people were wanting Miz to get to the top and bitching how he was buried by Cena in 2009? Well people bitched about his WWE title run.

1.It actually is the same old shit in the obscenely likely event that he loses the actual title match to super Cena

2.Hes a skilled wrestler , better than most and his comedy is far more tasteful than Eugenes ****** act or Santinos moron act. Hes a sort of un-intentionally funny character sort of like Stephen Colbert. Hes good in ring and on mic , hes over , hes got all the tools and the IT factor. Zack Ryder is where its at WOO WOO WOO YOU KNOW IT.

3.Sure he is , he wrestles and speaks better than 90% of the roster...

4.Did they? I didn't really see much of that TBH and Miz as WWE champion is a hell of alot better than a Super Cena WWE title run #8,769

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Gee, a face coming out on top of every feud. Hogan, Austin, and Rock never did that. Groundbreaking, I must say. I remember Cena winning last week. Wait, that's a lie.

Ryder being better than Cena is laughable and I feel sorry for the people who think that. I truly do. But keep on dreaming, Ryder fans. Maybe he will get a minute of airtime next week to appease you.

 

[mrwilliams061088]

So this thread is pretty much a way to complain about Cena and say that Zack Ryder is the 2nd coming to Jesus Christ pretty much. You hate Cena!!! We get it!!! A lot of people do. Here are the facts:

1.) Cena is the wwe champion and probably will be for a while. Am I happy about it? No but its reality, get over it.

2.) Zack Ryder will probably never get pushed, you may think Ryder is "where it's at" but clearly the wwe doesn't. So no world title for Zack, sorry.

 

[WWWYKI777]

Oh no you get me and all the other broskis wrong

I don't hate Cena. I don't think Zack Ryder is better than Cena. Hes just alot more FRESH than Cena

Yeah yeah ... "No world title for Zack".... thats the same thing they said about Miz in his ECW days............ they all thought he would end up released or a lower midcard jobber with no hope of ever seeing anything better than a midcard title and he proved them all wrong eventually

I am confident that Zack Ryder will be a world title holder ONE DAY whether its in the WWE or not

 

[mrwilliams061088]

True, a lot of people did say Miz would never be world champion, and I was one of the ones to say that so on that I was wrong. But i'm happy things worked out like they did because Miz is indeed awesome. But the only difference between Miz and Ryder, Miz was actually on tv.

 

[AngryCenaFan]

Look some of you are missing my point.
It's that, Cena especially ALWAYS comes out on top, it's the same recycled crap, they try to humanize him, then somehow on PPV he turns into SUPER CENA and always comes out on top, and his opponent looking like trash.

Perhaps my timing wasn't the best, BUT the show ended with Orton and Cena cheering.......AGAIN and alot of times, RAW does not invest in wrestling, so maybe my timing was bad to make a generality, but not against the WWE main event players, who can never ever lose cleanly

 

[Owen King of Hearts]

After watching the Six-Man Tag Match R-Truth, Christian & The Miz vs. John Cena, Randy Orton & Alex Riley and I'm bloody confused about who the face and who the heel


Randy Orton RKO Christian After he was eliminated is not that How the heel usually wins

 

[WWWYKI777]

True, a lot of people did say Miz would never be world champion, and I was one of the ones to say that so on that I was wrong. But i'm happy things worked out like they did because Miz is indeed awesome. But the only difference between Miz and Ryder, Miz was actually on tv.

Not really cause Zack Ryder is on WWE Superstars most Thursday nights and Miz in his doubted days was on ECW , an equally low ratings third rate WWE show

So technically Zack Ryders on about as much WWE TV every week as Miz was during his shorts/hat wearing ECW days in which everyone thought he'd never ammount to shit

The below spoiler is Partial Superstars Results for this week concerning Zack Ryder

Spoiler

Zack Ryder defeated Drew McIntyre

Yeah thats right he beat Drew McIntyre AKA "The Chosen One" as deemed by Vince himself someone in charge DOES beleive in him

Can't figure out how to officially title spoilers on this forum for some reason works on some other forums but yeah

 

[VinnieSunshine]

Oh no you get me and all the other broskis wrong

I don't hate Cena. I don't think Zack Ryder is better than Cena. Hes just alot more FRESH than Cena

Yeah yeah ... "No world title for Zack".... thats the same thing they said about Miz in his ECW days............ they all thought he would end up released or a lower midcard jobber with no hope of ever seeing anything better than a midcard title and he proved them all wrong eventually

I am confident that Zack Ryder will be a world title holder ONE DAY whether its in the WWE or not

If Miz would've stayed the same way he was he probably never would've got the WWE title. Miz took what everyone in the locker room said about him and turned it around. He started working his ass off and eventually caught the eye of McMahon. Cena did the same thing.

McMahon eventually liked what he saw in Miz and decided to pull the trigger on him. That helped take the wight from Cena carrying the company and made Miz the poster child of the WWE.

Miz had the experience with talk shows and the media. He became the new thing that everyone wanted. When he cut his promo after winning the title...he wasn't lying. JBL has come out publicly and said he trashed Miz and treated him like garbage. Miz proved everyone wrong.

Tell me...what has Ryder done to prove to WWE that he belongs in the spotlight every week? WOW he created his own web show and got the following from a bunch of internet fans. He may be loyal to the brand and have guys backing him...but obviously he hasn't caught McMahon or Triple H's attention yet.

Ryder is overrated. He was better when he was with Curt Hawkins as Edge's stunt doubles. The Jersey Shore gimmick isn't working. Let him go work somewhere else where they will gives titles to guys that dont deserve it.

 

[Mac Attack]

Same Old Shit.

Every single week.

When they do cross brand shows there is always some sort of tag team match involving the two champions, and their challengers in some way....

John Cena always comes out on top after every feud, the predictability of his outcomes become increasingly more boring especially the RAW after PPV's.

Orton and Cena should stop hogging the glory and use their positions to actually put people over, you know why fans are behind Alex Riley and Zack Ryder? BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THE SAME CONTRIVED BORING SAME OLD SHIT!

Why is is that someone always has to complain about everything? I mean really? This weeks Raw was very good and I think it was one of the better themed shows we have seen in a while. Your first point of Cena always coming out on top? Do you remember the Nexus angle? Cause I do and Cena lost that one. Zack Ryder will never be a star, and from your post you are saying let Ryder hold the WWE championship??????

Just stop being smarky and enjoy the shows. You'll find that that they are actually interesting once you just learn to stop finding the negative in everything. And if you don't like it. Don't watch.

 

[4-Real]

Not really cause Zack Ryder is on WWE Superstars most Thursday nights and Miz in his doubted days was on ECW , an equally low ratings third rate WWE show

So technically Zack Ryders on about as much WWE TV every week as Miz was during his shorts/hat wearing ECW days in which everyone thought he'd never ammount to shit

Why would we want to have TWO guys in the main event who have solid mic skills but can't wrestle? Granted Miz has improved in the ring, and that's coming from one of his biggest critics. But Zack... I question his ability to really deliver a great match. That to me seems to be the deal breaker keeping him from Raw TV time. Although, he's probably had a lot of practice on Superstars. And it is nice to see that he's going over. But he's not this "Superstar" you make him out to be. He does have a comedy gimmick, and I think someone compared him to Eugene and Santino Marella. I agree with that comparison. You see him in all those stupid comedy segments when he IS on Raw, so how could that, all of a sudden, be taken seriously? Zack = Midcard.

That said, WWE programming has really disappointed me in the past couple weeks All-Star Raw was meh, but I let that one slide because Capitol Punishment was looming, and that card to me was the best card WWE has put together for a PPV in a good two years. And in the early going, it was shaping up to deliver. But after Orton unnecessarily went over once again, and Christian had his foot under the ropes, I knew it was going to take a turn for a worse. They couldn't even get the real Obama to travel 5 miles to the site of the show, and that lead to one of the biggest wastes of time on a PPV that I have ever seen. And then Truth and Cena was VERY slow. And once again, they drop the ball on R-Truth, who was the best heel WWE's seen since '08 Chris Jericho.

That takes us to last night. The ridiculous choices for the fans to "choose." The ridiculous choices that were actually "chosen" (Mason Ryan). A Michael Cole-Vickie Guerrero Dance Off. That's what WWE programming has come to. And the only guy who was able to generate any likeable segments/matches' contract is up in mid July! I just feel in some ways that WWE has had a real chance to come up big on some opportunities in the past couple months and have really underachieved.

 

[Daniel]

I can't believe that people still think that WWE only pushes the same guys. The Miz, Christian, R-Truth, Alex Riley and Alberto del Rio all got pushed to the stars this year. Why can't people see that?

 

[whoopin' ass]

everyone has a different feeling for who they think should be on top but i do agree with you to an extent about it being the same old thing every week - wwe has a pattern that they are following and it does get boring fast. i think now would have been the time to make R-Truth the champ. their idea is to extend the chase but sometimes you don't want to do that. R-Truth has been on fire the last month or so and even I was watching to see him and little jimmy and i have never been a real R-Truth fan. sometimes you just need to run with it early instead of waiting and dragging it out. look at 2 guys - MVP and Samoa Joe. In both cases, people were saying they were good talent and should be made champ but it kept getting dragged out and dragged out. what happened? Joe's title run was not exactly stellar and they never did make MVP champ because he lost some of that fire when he was turned face. same thing could easily happen here with R-Truth. does it matter? depends on who you are. the kids love Cena and that is who wwe caters to right now and while R-Truth as champ would be something different, if they do not feel it is worth it, wwe won't bother.

all i can say is wait a while. With ROH being bought by someone new, wrestling might get the kick in the ass it needs. not saying ROH itself will be the big company but look back to the 90's - ECW caused WWF and WCW to rethink their business a little while they were busy fighting between themselves. ROH may do the same thing here between WWE and TNA. plus, it might get TNA to up their game since it would not take much for ROH to become a real threat to TNA and to become the number 2 company. competition is good so give it some time and who knows what might happen. plus, quit watching wwe for a while. they like to talk about their numbers - quit watching and the numbers will go down. i think that is the biggest mistake old fans make - we watch the show and then complain about it. quit watching, make that core number disappear and wwe will react. i no longer watch it on any regular basis and it frees up 4 hours a week to do other things that i do enjoy.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

I can't believe that people still think that WWE only pushes the same guys. The Miz, Christian, R-Truth, Alex Riley and Alberto del Rio all got pushed to the stars this year. Why can't people see that?

Because none of them have belts at the moment, whereas if one/some of them did there would be the complaints of <wrestler x> is getting pushed too soon!

Haven't seen RAW yet so can't comment, but come on guys/gals, it's a formatted show, it's MEANT to have a familiar feel to it each week.

Sheesh.