**MERGED**WWE Extreme Rules 2012: Aftermath & Discussion

What was the match of the night?

  • Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena

  • Chris Jericho vs. CM Punk

  • Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus

  • Randy Orton vs. Kane

  • Other..


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WWE Extreme Rules - April 29, 2012

1. Randy Orton vs. Kane in a Falls Count Anywhere Match - Another enjoyable match between these two. While the overall storyline behind the feud hasn’t been great, it hasn’t kept them from delivering some good matches. This one was easily the best, in my view, and was just an enjoyable brawl. The story of this match saw Kane coming off as a near indestructible monster that was giving Orton as much as he could handle. There was some really good back & forth action during the match and I like that it ranged all over, including backstage, rather than just fighting within the arena area. There were some good near falls, including a great & very believable near fall close to the end where Kane lands a chokeslam on Orton. Orton eventually makes a comeback and winds up hitting the RKO on Kane for the win at the 17 minute mark. Fun match that made both guys look good. Both guys have scored solidified wins, so now it’s time to move on. ***1/4

2. Brodus Clay vs. Dolph Ziggler - This is really the first match that Clay has had since his debut as the Funkasaurus. The highlight of this match, for me, was Ziggler’s selling. Whether you like Ziggler or not, nobody in wrestling sells better than he does. The match went about 4.5 minutes and was ok for what it was. Clay ends up getting the win after hitting the battering ram style head butt and the splash before dancing ensued. This match didn’t do anything for me really, but it served it’s point as a buffer. It’s too bad to see Ziggler being used this way. I’m wondering if he pissed someone off. *1/2

3. The Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes in a Tables Match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship - This match went about 5 minutes. In all honesty, I enjoyed this match much more than I thought I would. The stipulation, which was announced during the pre-show, was a good indicator that Rhodes was going to win here. There was some fun action during the match, including Cody hitting a good looking Beautiful Disaster kick after countering an attempted toss through a table via Big Show. The end of the match was kind of flukey. Show tries to get into the ring but Cody lands a dropkick that knocks Show off balance, forcing him to step back and break a table outside. Cody wins but Show demolishes him afterward. Cody regains the IC title and Show was kept looking strong. I’m sure some won’t be happy with the flukey ending but I think we all saw it coming. If this means that they’ll be getting back to business with Rhodes, then it’ll be worth it. **1/4

4. Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan in a 2 out of 3 Falls Match for the World Heavyweight Championship - This match was excellent. It’s taken over a year for fans to get the sort of match we hoped for out of Sheamus vs. Bryan, but the wait was worth it in my opinion. This was a fantastic back and forth match that made both guys look like stars. I also can’t state how relieved I am to see that they didn’t go with Sheamus getting another quick win as they did at WM. It would’ve just killed this entire match. I really dug Bryan’s aggression here and he gave Sheamus all he wanted. Bryan kept working on Sheamus’ shoulder throughout the match. Sheamus wins the first fall via DQ, which I honestly didn’t expect, because Bryan was basically beating the shit out of his shoulder while ignoring the ref’s warnings to break it up. Sheamus wins the first fall via DQ about the 14.5 minute mark. Bryan starts to smile as he’s informed of the DQ decision in which Cole, with surprising insight, says that this was Bryan’s strategy. The strategy was to lose the first fall going apeshit on Sheamus’ shoulder, thus weakening it. Soon afterward, Bryan finally slaps on the YES! Lock after unsuccessfully trying to do so several times earlier. The crowd is really just super hot for this match. Bryan keeps it up while Sheamus sells the move. Eventually, however, Sheamus loses consciousness rather than tapping out. Bryan wins the second fall about the 17 minute mark. He celebrates with the YES! chants while medics check on Sheamus. After the ref starts the match, Bryan charges in and eats a Brogue Kick but kicks out right at the last possible second for a helluva great near fall. They soon start trading bombs with Bryan, surprisingly, getting the best as he delivers a big kick to the head. Bryan goes up top, Sheamus cuts him off but Bryan pushes him away. Bryan leaps off and misses the diving headbutt before Sheamus gets his wind back. He mounts some offense on Bryan, including hitting the Irish Curse. Sheamus winds up winning the 3rd fall at the 23 minute mark after hitting a massive Brogue Kick that Bryan sells incredibly by turning himself inside-out. Sheamus wins and retains the World Heavyweight Championship. Sheamus comes out looking like a strong, babyface champ that wouldn’t quit and Bryan came off as a calculating heel that gave as good as he got. Both men looked like stars here. ****

5. Ryback vs. Aaron Relic & Jay Hatton - This was a buffer handicap match to sort of give fans a bit of a breather. There were a lot of “Goldberg!” chants for Ryback. Nothing really to say here. Ryback spent a total of about 2 minutes decimating these guys. N/A

6. CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho in a Chicago Street Fight for the WWE Championship - An excellent, excellent outing that was, in my mind, better than their match at WrestleMania. Basically, this match had pretty much everything including great storytelling, killer action, a white hot crowd and both men looked like a million bucks after leaving it all in the ring. Punk put on another fantastic performance as the resilient champion and Jericho did his thing. There were some great spots, with both guys hitting their signatures sometimes multiple times, including Punk’s flying elbow off the top rope & putting Jericho through the announce table. Punk locks in Jericho in the Anaconda Vice in the center of the ring but Jericho manages to reach a Kendo stick and clocks Punk with it to break the hold. The end comes with Jericho hoisting up Punk to hit the GTS and proclaims himself “the best in the world”. Punk counters the move, however, lands a kick upside Jericho’s head and then delivers the GTS for the pin in the center of the ring a little after the 25 minute mark. Like their match at WM, it started out slowly and consistently built up perfectly. Punk retains the WWE Championship. ****1/4

7. Nikkie Bella vs. Layla for the WWE Divas Championship - Prior to this match, there was a backstage segment in which Beth Phoenix was told by Eve that she wasn’t medically cleared. Layla came out and, unfortunately for her, the fans didn’t give a shit. They were hoping for Kharma. Anyhow, the match was ok for what it was but it was little more than a buffer. Layla looked good, she’s been out for over a year with a knee injury. The Bellas try to pull twin magic in which Brie switches with Nikki. Layla manages to get the win, however, as she hit’s a neck breaker on Brie for the win at the 2.5 minute mark. It’ll be a little interesting to see what happens here. After all, Nikki wasn’t really the one that was pinned and I’m sure they’ll make some sort of issue out of it tomorrow on Raw. Layla is the new WWE Divas Champion. *

8. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar in an Extreme Rules Match - This was an extremely physical match from the very beginning. It was definitely unique the way they very believably mixed in aspects of MMA with this match. Cena gets a bad cut on the head early on in the match and takes some rough shots from Lesnar. Like a lot of great Cena matches, this one told a helluva story and just flat out had some killer action. I thought the multiple ref bumps served a purpose here, especially with Lesnar taking out a couple of them, as it brought Lesnar’s angle in which he won’t be punished for putting his hands on officials. Cena sold Lesnar’s move perfectly and Lesnar brutalized Cena at various points. At one point, I thought Cena was about to tap as he certainly sold the submission well. Lesnar was dominant at times but Cena never stopped and kept coming back, mounting his offense for a while only to get shut down eventually. Great back & forth stuff all in all. Cena's chain came into play a couple of times, including when he hit Lesnar with it and caused him to bleed. The end comes about the 18 minute mark with Cena hitting an AA on the ring steps. The crowd popped huge for Cena and his promo at the end of the match was great. A super hot end to a super hot ppv. ****

Final Thoughts - WWE, in my view, is on a roll. They've delivered 3 consecutive ppvs that, again in my view, were absolutely killer and most definitely worth watching again. In a lot of ways, the way this entire ppv went down was very similar to how WM went down: the undercard went exactly as I figured it would, a much better than expected match between Orton & Kane and 3 incredible matches to carry the show. My only real complaint about this whole show was Ziggler's use. He's too good to be jobbed out to Brodus Clay. The Divas match & Ryback squash match were filler, as expected, but they served their purpose. It was nice to see Layla back. Cody Rhodes regained the IC title, it was kind of a cheap way, but at least he has it back. Now let's hope they get back on track with him. Sheamus vs. Bryan was fantastic. The only thing that could've made it better, in my view, was if it'd just went on longer. If this match had gone 30 minutes or more, it would've definitely gotten a five star rating. Punk vs. Jericho ended their feud with another killer match, one that I thought was better than WM. Cena vs. Lesnar was an intense, kick ass, physical match that had a surprising amount of blood in it. There were times where it legitimately felt like the lines between MMA & pro wrestling were blurred. Cena scoring the win doesn't bother me at all. Truth is, I like it as this is a good indicator that Lesnar now just won't be tearing through the entire WWE roster. I'm sure some will find a way to complain but I thought it was a great ending to a great ppv.

Grade: A
 
Simple question, John Cena won tonight, Brock lost, what was the point in the return if you were going to have him lose his first match? If this was a regular return and he lost, fine he lost, but to return, talk a lot of shit to Cena, and then lose......just doesn't make sense in my eyes.
 
First off, mods if this needs to be merged to another thread please feel free. I haven't seen any posts about why this match ended the way it did. So thats why I posted a new thread.

Anyway, WTF. At the end of the match after SuperCena rose from getting his ass kicked 97.9% of that match and had to revert to using a chain to win I was pissed because I felt it buried Brock in his return. But then after hearing Cena's promo I am even more pissed. To me this ending with Cena taking time off is even more retarted. If Cena is taking time off then why not have Lesnar not only win the match but take him out to justify Cena's absence for awhile. Instead the 7 year old SuperCena is back and wins again. You dont let a star of Lesnar's quality lose his first match back, terrible booking. (Not that I could do any better but still). To me the only option that would have made me feel a little better would be if Cena won and then Lesnar beat the crap out of him after the match, again to justify his upcoming absence.

In closing, I know the Cena fans will probably come on here and say im just bashing Cena but in reality this is a serious question why do you guys think they had Cena go over here?? It just makes no sense to me
 
First off, mods if this needs to be merged to another thread please feel free. I haven't seen any posts about why this match ended the way it did. So thats why I posted a new thread.

Anyway, WTF. At the end of the match after SuperCena rose from getting his ass kicked 97.9% of that match and had to revert to using a chain to win I was pissed because I felt it buried Brock in his return. But then after hearing Cena's promo I am even more pissed. To me this ending with Cena taking time off is even more retarted. If Cena is taking time off then why not have Lesnar not only win the match but take him out to justify Cena's absence for awhile. Instead the 7 year old SuperCena is back and wins again. You dont let a star of Lesnar's quality lose his first match back, terrible booking. (Not that I could do any better but still). To me the only option that would have made me feel a little better would be if Cena won and then Lesnar beat the crap out of him after the match, again to justify his upcoming absence.

In closing, I know the Cena fans will probably come on here and say im just bashing Cena but in reality this is a serious question why do you guys think they had Cena go over here?? It just makes no sense to me

It makes perfect sense. Cena just lost a HUGE match to The Rock, he's been of having his ass handed to him ever since. Whether you like it or not, Cena is still THE guy in WWE. He's a money machine and money machines have to be kept strong. Personally, I'm glad to see that Lesnar just won't be tearing through the entire WWE roster like a coke fiend on a benge with no one capable of stopping him. Again, all people see is the short term instead of the big picture. Personally, I'm glad Lesnar won't be rampaging through the WWE roster with nobody to stop him, thereby making the entire roster look weak. Lesnar can still have a huge run and a dominant presence, but I don't see the appeal of "SuperLesnar" anymore than "SuperCena".
 
In all honesty, i think it was the most horrendously booked PPV i have seen in a long time. the only result that made sense tonight was orton winning.
as much as i enjoyed the top 3 matches,watching the top 3 baby faces winning was just way too predictable and not unenjoyable in the least.
having cm punk winning just made that whole fued pointless, in conclusion all that fued did is reminding me of the dark cena days as champion. all jericho did since returning is beating kofi kingston. WOW
Although i have to say i did enjoy the matches, especially Bryan-Sheamus, which i think suffered from a terrible ending.

Overall a good PPV wrestling wise. but the results really spoiled the fun for me.
 
Awesome PPV tonight once again from WWE.

Cena/Lesnar was perfect and was everything it needed to be. Just dirty,nasty,and violent. People may complain about the end but it made sense for Cena to win.

CM Punk/Y2J stole the Show I would say and Sheamus/Daniel Bryan was damn good also.

Orton/Kane was a good way to kick things off,surprised Cody won back the IC Title,nice to see Layla back & winning the Divas Title.

Also good to see Brodus,Ryback,and Ziggler get on the PPV tonight.

Props to another White HOT Chicago Crowd as well.
 
In all honesty, i think it was the most horrendously booked PPV i have seen in a long time. the only result that made sense tonight was orton winning.
as much as i enjoyed the top 3 matches,watching the top 3 baby faces winning was just way too predictable and not unenjoyable in the least.
having cm punk winning just made that whole fued pointless, in conclusion all that fued did is reminding me of the dark cena days as champion. all jericho did since returning is beating kofi kingston. WOW
Although i have to say i did enjoy the matches, especially Bryan-Sheamus, which i think suffered from a terrible ending.

Overall a good PPV wrestling wise. but the results really spoiled the fun for me.

If you honestly think this is this is the worst PPV in a long time, your definition of "a long time" probably differs from mine. You're focusing way too hard on the results here. All Jericho has done since returning is beat Kofi? What about putting on a fantastic program with a Royal Rumble finish where he put over Sheamus, an excellent Elimination Chamber match, and a great program with Punk over the last few months with at least two PPV matches that easily fall among the best matches of the year?

The destination is only 5% of the show. If that's all it takes to make or break the PPV for you, maybe you should stick to result summaries.
 
Really enjoyed it!

Suprised Cena got the win, i had said in another thread Cena could steal a win here as WWE like to go against what fans predict, and obviously 90% of us thought Lesnar couldn't possibly lose his first match back.

Bryan/Sheamus, Punk/Jericho , Cena/Lesnar ,, these 3 matches kept me glued and the crowd were hyped throughout all 3. Seems the Faces won the show in the end (Orton, Brodus also winning) which is a bit worrying. Does having a Heel Persona mean you will always lay down for the faces?

Overall i enjoyed this PPV as much as i did Wrestlemania. Out of 10 i would give Extreme Rules 8/10. You sort of know when it's a good event as you DON'T move from the sofa because you can't take your eyes off what is coming next.
 
To anyone who says that if Cena lost tonight, he would look weak - May I remind you the string of pay per views he lost on in 2008? He lost at No Way Out, lost at Wrestlemania, lost at Backlash, lost at Great American Bash, and lost at Summerslam. What harm would it have done after all he's won to lose to a legitimate fighter like Lesnar? Especially, since he's suppose to take time off?

This is why no new stars get created. This would've been a perfect opportunity to build Lesnar as a true bully and threat, and to build someone to finally kick the bully down. Instead, Lesnar's first match back, and he lost (even though dominating most of it). How am I suppose to take Lesnar seriously now? I don't. Typical WWE killing interest.
 
I'm probably gonna get hate from the Cena fans, but...whatever, bring it on.
Cena has been putting everyone over lately. However, that doesn't change the FACT that tonight, there was no way he shoulda won. Brock beat the CRAP out of Cena all night long. ALL FRAGGIN night. From the opening bell he was dominant. Cena came back a couple of times but NEVER got a true advantage. At no point during the duration of the match did he make enough of an impact to have any clear momentum. Brock beat him up for about 20 minutes and then Cena came back, did his superman thing and won the match. It just shouldn't have happened..and in all reality, after his address to the crowd about taking time off anyway, he SHOULD have jobbed to Lesnar. It would have made more sense, and in the end he could have came back with a vengence, overhauled, evolved, heel or not, but better in general and taken back over. Now we have Lesnar who came back "specifically" to be the "face" of WWE, dominating Cena since the day after WM28, come back to lose in his FIRST match back in 8 years? Really? YOU tell me what sense that makes? ESPECIALLY if Cena is really taking some time off. Why not have him go out with this devastating 3rd loss to reassess his career, character and whatever else and then bring him back right around Summerslam and dominate or whatever? Just don't make no sense to me.

I was actually there in the crowd tonight and it was a great show from top to bottom...(i could have gone without the diva's match and Rob Van Goldberg, but whatever). I just don't see the reason for him winning....especially if he's really taking time off.
 
To anyone who says that if Cena lost tonight, he would look weak - May I remind you the string of pay per views he lost on in 2008? He lost at No Way Out, lost at Wrestlemania, lost at Backlash, lost at Great American Bash, and lost at Summerslam. What harm would it have done after all he's won to lose to a legitimate fighter like Lesnar? Especially, since he's suppose to take time off?

This is why no new stars get created. This would've been a perfect opportunity to build Lesnar as a true bully and threat, and to build someone to finally kick the bully down. Instead, Lesnar's first match back, and he lost (even though dominating most of it). How am I suppose to take Lesnar seriously now? I don't. Typical WWE killing interest.

So you wanted Lesnar to be booked to go over everybody? Do you not get how this makes for a compelling story? I've already said that I think Lesnar will get his revenge and take Cena out tomorrow, but even if that doesn't happen, there's still a great thing brewing. While Cena's gone, Lesnar is likely going to destroy everybody, but he's still going to have something to prove because he hasn't beaten Cena. Tell me, what exactly is the payoff if he just beats everybody up? Someone has to be his Kryptonite, or else it's just a bland story.
 
Ive beena supporter of burying Lesnar just because I dont forget what he did when he left and the way he treated fans afterwards.

However i have to agree with some of the people here that that ending made no sense, and not because cena lost but because of that promo at the end...
There is no way you can defend that, it wouldve made more sense for cena to lose if hes taking time away anyway, dont you think? there is no face of the company now... u may think its Punk but nope, he isnt, it shouldve been Lesnar, i cant stand him but that really makes more sense.
 
Can't believe no one posted about it, LAYLA IS BACK!!! Easily the hottest wwe diva!!!! Kharma is a destructive force and that's cool and all but she is going through stuff, didn't expect her to return despite what all the hype was. But Layla returned and won the title!!! Like come on guy's nothing????? None of you can be pleased.

Great matches to say the least. Ryback's squash match was lackluster to say the least. Despite what you guys think, I strongly believe that Ryback could go somewhere. He has a long way to go, but I think he can do it if wwe books him properly.
 
[cL];3878356 said:
I'm probably gonna get hate from the Cena fans, but...whatever, bring it on.
Cena has been putting everyone over lately. However, that doesn't change the FACT that tonight, there was no way he shoulda won. Brock beat the CRAP out of Cena all night long. ALL FRAGGIN night. From the opening bell he was dominant. Cena came back a couple of times but NEVER got a true advantage. At no point during the duration of the match did he make enough of an impact to have any clear momentum. Brock beat him up for about 20 minutes and then Cena came back, did his superman thing and won the match. It just shouldn't have happened..and in all reality, after his address to the crowd about taking time off anyway, he SHOULD have jobbed to Lesnar. It would have made more sense, and in the end he could have came back with a vengence, overhauled, evolved, heel or not, but better in general and taken back over. Now we have Lesnar who came back "specifically" to be the "face" of WWE, dominating Cena since the day after WM28, come back to lose in his FIRST match back in 8 years? Really? YOU tell me what sense that makes? ESPECIALLY if Cena is really taking some time off. Why not have him go out with this devastating 3rd loss to reassess his career, character and whatever else and then bring him back right around Summerslam and dominate or whatever? Just don't make no sense to me.

I was actually there in the crowd tonight and it was a great show from top to bottom...(i could have gone without the diva's match and Rob Van Goldberg, but whatever). I just don't see the reason for him winning....especially if he's really taking time off.

Cena won on a fluke. Ever since Brock got back, especially during the last Monday, he has been arrogant. He thinks he is better than anyone, and he thinks he can do anything and take any hit and still win. The win makes sense, because Cena tricked Brock with a cheap shot. Brock went to do the exact same move that he did once before, and Cena reacted by having a chain in his hand. Brock's arrogance made him think that he could be flashy, fly around, and get away with doing the same things twice with a half-assed effort. Again, that's the only kayfabe reason that Cena seems to have won. That's good story-telling in my opinion.

This sets the stage for Brock to make a quick transformation from a guy who is just there for money to a guy with a chip on his shoulder. He got beaten by a guy that he had no business losing to based on how the rest of the match went. He presumably won't be as careless, he won't try to play around, and he will become, as he stated he was before, an ass kicker.

That's how I justify the finish, at least.
 
This is the same way Brock lost his UFC debut to Frank Mir. He got too cocky and was caught in an ankle lock, when he had no business losing. He came back and destroyed Mir in a rematch, not making the same mistake twice. I don't necessarily agree with Lesnar losing to Cena, especially if Cena is leaving, but I expect Brock to bounce back tomorrow night. He looked amazing the entire match until the finish.
 
I think personally that Brock should have won this match, but losing did not make him look weak by any means. He dominated the entire match and honestly if you went into the PPV thinking that Cena was going to win, then you really don't pay much attention. They've been hyping the "old" Cena on Raw with the segment between him and Edge who told Cena he NEEDED to win. Cena was on a month long losing streak, something that is absurd in the WWE and you had to KNOW he was going to win this one. Does it make sense, NO and does it have to make sense, NO. Since when has any booking in the WWE made sense lately? The WWE is not going to give the IWC what they want, we're Vince's enemy and at the end of the day Cena is still the face of HIS company. It's not like they made Lesnar look terrible, he looks like a beast and the only guy they could of had him lose to was Cena. It makes sense. I saw it coming and I am not Pro-Cena by any means, but really if you didn't see it coming especially with the match being promoted as "if Lesnar won he would be the new face of the company,"then REALLY? Cena is and always will be until the day he retires. Until then, whether you hate Cena or not get used to it and enjoy the product if not there's always TNA.
 
Vince has to be widing a wave of emotions right now

IMO, that was probably the best NON "big 4" PPV as far back as i can remember

every match was solid, well ok, except for the Diva's match. Ryback definitely has the look, and some decent moves we typically haven't seen

WWE has a bright future......

But anyways, its dangerous putting anyone with Lesnar. As evidenced by tonight. Rumors are going crazy right now, a lot of people saying Lesnar went too far with one of the sub. moves and legitly messed up Cena's arm/shoulder

Vince can't be happy at all, you hit the homerun tonight, but at what cost??

If Cena is out for 6-8 months, that just changed everything for the rest of 2012. Maybe for the better?? more fresh?? who knows

My gut feeling says Lesnar fueds with HHH next and NOT Orton as what was previously rumored. Hey, atleast if Lesnar injures HHH by accident, it won't hurt business (as HHH is no longer a fulltime performer)


Cena being legit hurt and forced to take an extended break could be a blessing in disguise.
 
this was the best move for business. i honestly knew Lesnar was going to lose after the Edge promo, and although I would've liked him to win, I understand the thinking here. this sets up the perfect angle for Lesnar: Cena's gone. he can now rampage through the locker room while being stopped by no one. he can also say that this loss was a fluke. realistically, the way he lost does the same for Lesnar as if he would have won.
 
This was all a sell... And of course, it was already pre determined that Brock was to hurt Cena. They surely asked him and probably Cena asked too to get more real so Lesnar appear as a beast. His arm is fine... its freaking wrestling. Brock should be the one hurt after the nasty fall he took when he jumped on Cena the first time... misjudged the distance i guess, like his Shotting star lol

+ Lesnar wont let him go out with a victory... i predict a crazy beating for Cena on monday at the hands of Lesnar, so he looks freaking dominant while Cena takes some well deserved time off. This was good booking. But damn i wished Jericho could have won... hes the one who's getting poor booking... crazy promo for the comeback, but lost everything since he did.. lame
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but It looked to me that Big Show's loss to Rhodes was a fluke or rather an accident. If you look at the way big show landed only on one foot and broke the table, it looked like he was not prepared to fall that way. I think the writers were planning to make it look like a "close shave". Rhodes will hit Show on his knees and he will barely escape the fall. But one of his feet slipped on the table and that was enough to break it. Hence, Big Show did the post match rampage which was part of the backup plan made by the writers.

It makes sense cause I never expected the writers to change Show's title reign so quickly especially to Cody who has lost all of his momentums. Even the prematch promo with Teddy Long was suggesting that Show is going to win this hence Cody was blaming everything else for his upcoming inevitable loss.

At any rate, that landing on one foot was a legit fall not scripted. Thats for sure.
 
Cody was making fun of his Big Show's poor WrestleMania record. Show only won the IC Title so that he could have a WM moment and was most likely going to drop it back to Cody.
 
Nah that was 100% supposed to happen and when it did I laughed. Glad the IC title is back on Rhodes but yeah I'm pretty sure the ending was just supposed to be like that, especially with Show's pre match comment about 'good luck getting me through a table'. It's a simple way for a heel to get a win.
 
I think for this year anyways this has been the best PPV after Mania. The matches that mattered came off really well. The throw away matches like Clay (poor Ziggler), Ryback and the divas were well just that. I know the crowd just didn't care once Layla was announced compared to Kharma but who knows when she'll come back and I assume the Bellas get their send off. As for Brock and Cena, I personally didn't like the return to Cena being super like with only getting offense at the end of the match after being dominated. Then when Cena said it was taking time off it does make sense for Cena to just have straight up lost, makes Lesnar more credible and can brag about putting Cena on the shelf. That's what they used to do anyways when superstars needed time off.
 
But anyways, its dangerous putting anyone with Lesnar. As evidenced by tonight. Rumors are going crazy right now, a lot of people saying Lesnar went too far with one of the sub. moves and legitly messed up Cena's arm/shoulder

Vince can't be happy at all, you hit the homerun tonight, but at what cost??


Cena being legit hurt and forced to take an extended break could be a blessing in disguise.

I dont think thats true... A kimura is a dangerous submission for sure but lesnar had not locked it in at any point. During the first kimura cena's arm was straight. That way the kimura has no effect and the second time the kimura was not locked in. For a kimura to be locked in the arm is all the way being bent towards the back o which with cena it didnt. the kimuar is a submission where to injure it needs to be fully locked in. It cant injure if its 90 % or even 95% locked in. Only complete locking in can it injure. I speak from experience btw. 4 wins 1 loss amateur mma :). So if cena has a torn rotator it certainly wasnt because of the kimura.

The elbows and ground and pound looked legit though. That was pretty cool to be quite honest. And the commentary added to the realism. Cole wasnt being the heel and everyone acted legit concerned for cena. Great storytelling btw and while i believe lesnar should have won i guess in a way it makes sense for cena winning as well because this was a kayfabe fluke win for cena.

This builds up a hopeful brock vs rock rivalry as well. Brock lesnar beat rock. Rock beat cena and cena beat brock. Rock can claim that he john cena at wrestlemania but to truly be the best he had to beat the man who beat him at summerslam and when edge says that it took the rock 8 yrs after he lost to lesnar to find his mojo, i think that line can be used in the future.

Lets see what happens though. Things are looking extremely interesting in the wwe after a long long long time.
 

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