*MERGED* [Official] Ted Dibiase Jr. Discussion Thread

[Nicole13Edge/HardyFan]

Okay so everyone knows that Vince needs to start pushing younger talent. I think that he should push Dibiase. Since day one he has proven that he is where he needs to be in the WWE.

Dibiase is very talented and he is a little above average on the mic, he could improve a little on the mic. He is great in Legacey but I think that it is holding him back take him out of Legacey and he would truly shine as a singles competitor.

So with the Elimantion Chamber coming up this Sunday I think that it would be a great idea for Vince to let Dibiase win and offically move him up to main event status.

So do you guys think that Vince should move Ted to the main event status or not?

 

[16mikeytot]

Well Nicole13 I hate to be your bubble-buster but I've seen this thread at least 8 times about Ted going to the main-event. But anyways Ted will likely eliminate Orton in the chamber setting up a fued and a match for wrestlemania 26 and on other terms wwe is already pushing young talent via punk, morrison, sheamus, miz, mcintyre, and kofi.

 

[LongHessa]

The IWC needs a new topic, like seriously. If I see "Rhodes or Dibease? Whos going further?" Or "I wish the attitude era would come back". Or the classic "I love Miz, Morrison, Dibease..or hell, anyone who is a young cocky heel". This has been done to death. To reply to your post, Hell no...Ted shouldnt win the EC, he is not ready headline Mania. And he isnt ready to be world champion.

 

[Undertaker the 5th]

Yes he is a future main eventer, but no he will not be moved to main event status at the EC or at WM. He still needs at least 1 or 2 more years before he gets there. I mean you already see him as a main event in like his 3rd? or 2nd year in the WWE when guys like Morrison and MVP have been there for as long as I can remember and they're still not main eventers. He will get his push but not now. I think they're just testing the waters and filling out EC spots with him.

 

[billm75]

In defense of the OP as a fairly new poster here myself, there are SO many posts to sift through on these forums, it's hard to know if what you're wanting to discuss hasn't already been done before. So, try lightening up a little on people, if this is something you've read before in other posts, then pass on it. It's not hard to do.

As for whether or not Ted Dibiase should be in the Main Event scene right now, I don't see why they couldn't let him test the waters a bit over the next month or two. I mean, Sheamus is in that spot and has been since joining the WWE (ok, not the same night, but it was a fast elevation). The Miz had his program with Cena for a while before he "reinvented" himself and established himself as pure gold on the mic and pretty decent in the ring as the US and now Unified Tag Team Champ.

To me, there's not really a bad time to give a guy a push into the ME scene if he can handle it, and I"m sure Dibase is mature enough to do that. It's really up to the creative department to do it right and put him over so that it doesn't look forced. People tend to forget, these wrestlers can only perform so well before opportunities and writing take over and dictate where they are in the company. Sure there's exceptions to that rule, but by and far, you can only do so much for your own career without a little help from the company.

I'd really like to see a #1 contender series start up following 'mania. Let these young guys and new guys work their way into a title shot. Then, if they make it to the mountain and lose, they'll have lost in a credible way and they won't be buried. When they lose, put them down in the Upper-Mid Cards for a bit and host another series of #1 contender matches. This will keep the ME scene fresh over the course of the year, and will allow younger guys like Dibase to prove their worth. I mean, I'd much rather see a Dibase v. Sheamus match than a HHH or HBK or Cena v. Sheamus match. I know Sheamus will likely win, but if he doesn't manhandle Ted in the process it could do wonders for his credibility as a contender, and show everyone that he's "almost" there. Now he has something to work towards in our eyes.

 

[GenMe]

Im dam sure that WWE has something plan for Ted.Ted will be a maineveter passing WM.He will start with Orton and maybe move up to maybe Jericho or Batista.

But as for ted being a maineventer like i said im dam sure that in 2 or 3 months he will be maineventing a ppv

 

[TKO 3:16]

Key word here is "furute" main eventer. Yes. Ted dibiase jr. Deffinatley has what it takes 2 make the transition from mid_carded to upper/main event. I don't really know what it is, but teddy just seems more comfortable in the ring and on the mic than rhodes is. Granted rhodes is a great techtition and ok 2 watch, but he's not getting nearly the push thàt ted is. Every1 knows that he will be going 2 'maina and facing orton, and I really hope that randy puts him over clean.
Vince needs to start pushing these talents NOW, as tna is starting to build a little steam. And in the end, we will have a better prouct for us all to enjoy IMO

 

[thelegacywillremain1]

yea he will be one day but not now its hard to just leave a stable and become a superstar look at orton and Batista it took almost a year to get those guys away from there stables and you guys think ted is gonna do it over night they better add cody to the wrestlemania match or that would suck 2 heels fight each other for nothing they fought 2 time already and nothing came from it so why waste a wm match he needs cody and cody needs him

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

First of all, WWE is ALREADY pushing young talent. Sheamus (bum), Punk, McIntyre, Kofi, Miz, Morrison, and Ted. Why does WWE need to have so much fresh blood as top level main eventers? Orton, Cena, Punk, Edge, and Christian are all fairly young guys, with A LOT more years in their tanks. HHH, Jericho, Big Show, Batista, and Mysterio are getting older, but still have a few big years left in them, if not more. HBK and Undertaker are older than the rest, especially in ring-years and mileage, but they are still top level main eventers.

I think wrestling fans today are wayyyy too impatient about pushing talent from mid card to consistently main eventing. IMO, they have plenty of main eventers as it is. The problem isn't the number or age of main event guys. The problem is the WWE not being creative enough to keep everything fresh, and having to follow the guidelines of a PG-rated business doesn't help.

Now as for Ted, yeah, he is definitely a future main eventer. But why now? I understand, and like the fact, that guys like Ted, Morrison, etc. are getting EC spots. They are FUTURE main eventers, but they do not need to be near future main eventers. Give these guys time to develop. I would love to see a strong tag division, where guys like Ted and Cody can wait another five years before holding a WHC/WWE title. Or even lengthy IC/US title reigns. Back in the day, those titles meant something. Now they don't, unfortunately.

That is the problem. The problem is not the fact that the same guys are always on top. Randy Orton, for example. He's 29 YEARS OLD! You want him to move aside in an already cluttered main event picture? Not a smart thing to do. The problem is they have taken away all prestige surrounding their other titles. People see those titles as nothing more than a stepping stone to the Heavyweight/WWE title picture. It's stupid, and the WWE needs to restore some honor to it's lower-ranking titles.

 

[RavensFlock1990]

I don't get what people see in Ted other than his last name. He has no charisma, boring on the stick and he's nothing special in the ring. He has the look WWE wants and a marketable name but as far as talent goes he should never sniff the main event scene.

If he ever does make it to the main event though it shouldn't be anytime soon. He would be the last person that should win at EC. Cena, Orton and HHH are all safe and reliable guys to put the title on going into Mania. Sheamus would gain a TON of credibility if he retains. Even Kofi is more over with the fans and more deserving than Ted right now.

If his last name wasn't DiBiase I do not believe he would even have a job with WWE.

 

[laxfan41]

Ted is a very talented entertainer, but he needs someone with experience to fued with, Randy Orton is a choice. If Ted is gonna be a face, then Seamus is a good choice to fued with since they are both relatively new. I can't see him as a consistent main eventer, but as an upper-midcarder.

 

[Davi323]

Is Ted DiBiase a future main eventer? Absolutely. I will even go as far as saying future multiple time WWE/World champion. Remember, Dwayne Johnson and Randy Orton started out being uncharismatic too. There is just something about Ted that just seems to say future champ.

 

[kobrad]

So this has been kind of brought up in some other threads but i wanted it to be its own thread.

So could ted Dibiase carry RAW as champ?

The answer, as I see it, is NO. Dibiase is not even close to what he can be as a wrestler, he could be amazing, and he needs to be better on the mic. Now i know that he would be better than Shaemus but WWE needs to do this right with Dibiase because, as i see it, he is a huge part of WWE's future. I foresee him and Morrison one day being on Main-Events against each other for titles all the time. Back on topic, the thing is people "want" Dibiase to win the chamber match and headline mania, but he would never be able to carry this.

Idk i could be totally wrong, and i might be missing something here. So tell me what i said wrong and give me your opinion. COULD TED DIBIASE CARRY RAW as CHAMP?

 

[Mitch Henessey]

It depends on how his possible world title win would happen. Sheamus is a guy that really came out of no where, and beat WWE's #1 face in John Cena. Now the win wasn't spectacular by any means, and it's not like he dominated Cena, but still, he did beat him. Over the past couple of months, he has been established as a force to be reckoned with, but this took some time because before his win over Cena, his biggest claim to fame was retiring Jamie Noble.

If Dibiase is to be looked at as a credible champion, and be considered the face of Raw, then he would have to go over a top star, and of course the most logical choice would be Randy Orton. A little while back on Raw, Dibiase got a pretty good reaction from the crowd, when he had that match against Orton. The crowd loved it when he stood up to Orton, and I think they would love it again as timne goes on because Orton is such a nasty heel, that people love to see someone stand up to a "big bad bully".

It's possible Dibiase could carry Raw, but I don't think he could. Dibiase is sort of bland to me. There's nothing he really does that screams "future world" champion. Of course as time passes on, he could improve, but even if he does, I still don't think he could be "the guy" to carry Raw.

 

[People's Champ]

If this question is for right now then the answer is no. I too don't see anything special from him right now. He's kinda just there. Is he fueding with Orton? Is he turning face? Turning face with Orton? Staying heel? There's just too much unknown with him right now.

If this is for the future then it is possible. He will have gotten away from Legacy and will be able to showcase himself. If he can develop as a character and connect with the crowd-whether heel or face- then it can happen.

 

[dionlyone18]

Right now i would give him the IC belt and let him work up..its not that hes green hes def crafted his skills in the short time he been in the big E. but i dont like how ppl are sleeping on rhoads.that man is a really good wrestler.obviously picked up some submission skills from watching tapes of his pops vs flair.he can be a high flyer and a ground and pounder.now out of legacy he was not the top draw but he was a vital charecter in the group.i can see him as a mid card champ in the next few months or end of this year.

 

[Cookie]

So could ted Dibiase carry RAW as champ?

As it stands right now, no.

Yeah, he'd have to go over a top star and that's what seems to be what they're setting him up for right now. But I also think in order for him to carry the show as a champ, the fans would actually have to care about the guy and judging from the (lack of) response to him every week, they're not on board right now. He's pretty bland and would need a hell of a response (like his match versus Orton to the power of 10) to get the fans behind him.

We've yet to see him as a true face, so that could change things but I'm not entirely sure. If they build him as a face opposite Randy I honestly don't think it would make that much of a difference for him because Orton has been getting a lot of pops regardless of the fact that he's heel. Then again, that doesn't mean people wouldn't want a good guy opposite him. We'll see what happens.

 

[GenMe]

So this has been kind of brought up in some other threads but i wanted it to be its own thread.

So could ted Dibiase carry RAW as champ?

The answer, as I see it, is NO. Dibiase is not even close to what he can be as a wrestler, he could be amazing, and he needs to be better on the mic. Now i know that he would be better than Shaemus but WWE needs to do this right with Dibiase because, as i see it, he is a huge part of WWE's future. I foresee him and Morrison one day being on Main-Events against each other for titles all the time. Back on topic, the thing is people "want" Dibiase to win the chamber match and headline mania, but he would never be able to carry this.

Idk i could be totally wrong, and i might be missing something here. So tell me what i said wrong and give me your opinion. COULD TED DIBIASE CARRY RAW as CHAMP?

So why are you asking that question is you think he wont,And that he is not in the mainevent level yet.

I say yes he could after having a long feud with the top Maineventers.We all know that he is going to feud with Randy first.After that he could face HBK or HHH,And at last he could Feud with Cena.

After beating all the top Faces and Heels on Raw.He will now have the power to carry RAW as a Heel or as a Face.But as right now he wont carry RAW until by summer of Fall.

 

[nyhc_12_gauge]

def not now OR anytime soon, most of the time he barley gets a crowd reaction and has been passed up for a push for guys like Drew Mcytire...plus we all know Jericho is gonna win the SD chamber and face Edge at mania and HHH is gonna win the Raw chamber to give him something important to do at mania

 

[InterestingDrug]

Right Now?? No way. He hasnt even held a title. The Miz has a better chance to carry RAW at this point. Ted needs to build a personality and better mic skills to be considered someone that can carry a brand. Even Orton had a hard time carrying the brand when he was champion.. and at this point, Ted is nowhere near where Orton was at the same age.

 

[jmyers19]

Now? No. In the future? No doubt. So far the most he's won is the Tag Titles, we have yet to see how he fares in the singles division. If Legacy split soon and if DiBiase breaks away from Rhodes, then we'll get our answer. He needs a singles belt first though. Look at the MITB winners. Edge-was a former IC Champ and multi-time Tag Champ. RVD-Exactly the same. CM Punk-former ECW Champ. Edge and Punk are two of SD's top guys, RVD blew his chance but he still got it. If DiBiase proves himself in the singles division and holds a Title well enough, then I'd say by mid-late 2011 he should start to be built up to work in the main event, maybes with a 2012 Rumble victory or at least a WM28 MITB win.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

First of all, the WWE champion doesn't CARRY raw. CM Punk didn't carry Raw. Sheamus sure as HELL isn't carrying Raw. Sheamus is less popular than Orton, HHH, HBK, Cena, and a few others, so I really don't think he is carrying Raw, nor will he ever be able to do so.

I think DiBiase could be the biggest name on Raw...someday. Why does he need a massive push RIGHT NOW? He doesn't. Let him develop. Other guys like Orton and Cena are still young guys, so I don't see them being pushed aside so the younger guys can move up. I would like Ted and Cody to tag up and win the tag belts and stay in that division for another five years. I think Ted has more main event potential than any of the other names you hear thrown around on this forum (Kofi, Evan Bourne, Miz, Morrison, Ziggler), but not yet. NONE of those guys i just named are ready yet, IMO.

 

[theBec2101]

I think he could. Look who is champ now. He's alright on the mic and his ring skill arnt bad either. he could have fresh new fueds with other people in singles. In my opion he should win it at the ECM and go on to face Randy Orton at WM. You people say your tired of seeing the same people with the belt but yet u say no one is ready or you dont like something about someone

 

[UltraLastRide]

Dibiase? Carry RAW? I don't think so. He for sure hasn't been built up to top main eventer yet. But, I think he does have tremendous talent. He needs to work on the mic a little bit too. But only time can tell. He can turn face, stay heel, or whatever. I think he has potential though.

 

[Cookie]

I think he could. Look who is champ now.

You really think Sheamus is carrying RAW as champ? Not a chance. Lately they've actually been giving him some time instead of having him appear 48 minutes into the show with no prior mention of him, but he's certainly not carrying the show.

You people say your tired of seeing the same people with the belt but yet u say no one is ready or you dont like something about someone

I don't think it's that people don't want him to be champ eventually, they're just saying that he's not ready to be champ right now.