Mickie, Tara, Madison, Winter and the BP can all wrestle well, and put on a good match.
Please show me ONE good match that Madison Rayne, Velvet Sky, or Angelina Love have
ever had in TNA.
So just because something was better before, anything after that is absolute shit no matter what?
No, something is absolute shit when it's of extremely poor quality. Like the KO division is right now.
Despite the overly-biased opinion of some actual trolls, the KO's division is a great thing to watch right now. All the chicks are great to look at, there's a few that can really go and the rest have a lot to learn but are not a bunch of Kelly Kelly's.
Humorously enough Kelly Kelly is a better wrestler than most of the KO division, and she's awful as well. Kelly Kelly is basically Bret fucking Hart compared to people like Miss Tessmacher.
They can have a good match with eachother
No, they can't. Show me a single good KO match that doesn't involve Mickie, Tara, or Sarita. And even most of their matches are still shit.
But you never know, some really talented chick might pop out of somewhere, and I hope she pops out in TNA because being a female wrestler in WWE is the last thing you want.
Really? More money, more stardom, having your company actually PAY FOR YOUR MEDICAL BILLS, these are the "last thing" a wrestler wants? I know you're totally incapable of rational thought when it comes to your beloved TNA, but that's a joke. There's a reason that most of the KO division has been made up of ex-WWE stars. Because they'd rather work for the WWE, and when the WWE doesn't want them anymore, then they go to TNA as a second resort. If you actually believe the entire KO division wouldn't pack up and join the WWE if offered a contract, you are delusional.
P.S: I'm impressed with Tessmacher by the way. I really, really love the way she looks, her entrance is awesome (took a page out of HBK's book with the whole striptease thing, that's what it reminded me of), and she's not bad in the ring. Not bad, I expect good things from her.
Were you watching the same botch-fest of a match as I was on Impact this week? Tessmacher is
awful in the ring. She was botching the most basic of moves and bumps. If she was still in the WWE you'd be shitting all over her. Oh and look...another ex-WWE Diva in the KO division.
no offense, but do you really want to watch women for their wrestling ability?
Yeah, I do. If I want to watch naked or scantily clad women, I'll watch some porn or hop on the internet. Excuse me for wanting a
wrestling company to actually have a division that
wrestles. How silly of me.
ugly women who can wrestle OR hot women who aren't that good at wrestling? hmmm give me the hotties EVERY TIME!
That's your choice, and that's fine. I'm not twelve anymore though, so seeing a woman in a short skirt and a bra isn't exactly mind-blowing since you can see the same level of skin on America's Next Top Model or some other equally terrible reality show.
does it really matter if the Knockouts can't wrestle? it's probably like 90% of viewers that want to watch them because of how they look.
How do you figure that? When the KO division was actually comprised of good wrestlers like Kong, their segments on Impact drew just as many viewers as they do now. For a company that keeps trying to hammer home the point that they're a "WRESTLING company", you'd think they'd try to actually feature some wrestling with their women's division to be different, instead of just having it be a total rip-off of the WWE Divas, which is all that division is now. Ex Divas who can't wrestle for shit coming on my screen purely for T&A.
Besides, watching women wrestling for the wrestling is like watching porn for the acting. I watch them wrestle because TNA's cameramen are perverts and always zoom in on interesting parts of their bodies when they're lying around after a big bump
Awesome job at proving you're a sexist. You basically view women as objects, only there to gawk at and no good for anything else. Congratulations on being even more closed-minded than I initially thought you were.
I hate people that reduce everything to in-ring ability only. It is just a stupid way to discuss prowrestling.
How do you figure? The bulk of all angles, storylines, feuds, and programs take place IN THE RING. So you should be atleast
adequate in the ring. You don't have to do fucking planchas and suicide dives and 450 splashes, you just have to be able to not like totally inept in the ring. Unfortunately most of the Knockouts can't even do that.
ROH style matches do not sell shit in the mainstream.
Who the fuck is asking for ROH style matches? I'm asking for the kinds of matches the KO division USED to have, like the great Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim feud. Those matches were not in any shape, way, or form "ROH style", they were your most basic big person vs. little person formula, worked perfectly by a monster heel and a good babyface. Not ROH style at all, and really not that much to ask for. They weren't doing shooting star presses and Burning Hammers for fucks sake, they used the most basic holds and moves that any wrestler should know and the matches rocked because both women knew how to tell a story in the ring, sell properly, and not embarrass themselves like the current KO's do.
The KOs still have some quality matches they just do not do it every time out.
More like they do it 1/1000 times. Mickie and Tara had a good cage match back in January, but aside from that, I haven't seen a good match out of the KO division in
years.
Instead they actually get to tell stories.
No, they absolutely do not. Go back and watch Kong vs. Gail Kim from Final Resolution 2008.
That is how you tell a story. Most of the current KO division wouldn't know how to work a match like that if their lives depended on it.
They have characters, mic time and individualized looks.
And these are things that can't be done with women who actually know how to wrestle competently? Pretty sure Kong was a a great character with a unique look.
Having the right look and telling a good story between interesting characters is the main hook of all mainstream prowrestling. Many a well regarded superstar has done so with average ring work. It just isn't the be all end all, especially when we are talking about women's wrestling. For mainstream Women's matches they certainly are above average usually.
Above average? On what scale are you basing that on? The average KO match goes about 2 minutes tops, has usually atleast one or two completely botched moves, and has absolutely no crowd heat whatsoever.
Is it
REALLY that hard to just want women who can wrestle without totally embarrassing themselves? I'm not asking for 60 minute Iron Woman matches with crazy backdrop suplexes and planchas, I'm asking for the women to be able to do the most basic moves and holds without botching them. You can be hot AND know how to wrestle competently, look at someone like Trish Stratus or even Mickie James for examples. Hot women, and they can actually wrestle without embarrassing themselves and the company. It's really not that much to ask for, especially considering the amount of very attractive women who are actually good workers on the indies right now.
