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The crowd was INSANE. Especially during Daniel Bryan's match. I think the WWE is messing up BIG TIME by not riding the pops he's getting. Then again, would a face push ruin the Daniel Bryan magic?
 
Why rush a push if it's going to fizzle out quickly? People were jumping all over Ryder's nuts, and when they finally gave him some kind of push...he's more or less fizzled out.

Give it a couple months...he's already in the main-event of Smackdown. How much higher can he feasibly go with current storylines?
 
YES! He needs to win clean over Sheamus at Extreme Rules, send Sheamus back to FCW and allow the YES! Generation to take over! YES! YES! YES!
 
Why rush a push if it's going to fizzle out quickly? People were jumping all over Ryder's nuts, and when they finally gave him some kind of push...he's more or less fizzled out.

Give it a couple months...he's already in the main-event of Smackdown. How much higher can he feasibly go with current storylines?

While I agree that rushing a push could cause some burnout, the dude just flat out deserves better, and the fans are showing they agree.

It's not like Bryan is some unknown "up-and-comer" like Ryder was. He had the championship belt. He's already over.

He got a Rocky-esque pop tonight, and it's a shame that has to happen DESPITE the WWE's efforts.
 
While I agree that rushing a push could cause some burnout, the dude just flat out deserves better, and the fans are showing they agree.

It's not like Bryan is some unknown "up-and-comer" like Ryder was. He had the championship belt. He's already over.

He got a Rocky-esque pop tonight, and it's a shame that has to happen DESPITE the WWE's efforts.

I agree don't rush anything. But he's already over hell been over so it wouldn't really be a push. But please don't mess up his character any further, WM was enough. Let the fans cheer him as a heel, do not turn him back face.
 
Why rush a push if it's going to fizzle out quickly? People were jumping all over Ryder's nuts, and when they finally gave him some kind of push...he's more or less fizzled out.

Give it a couple months...he's already in the main-event of Smackdown. How much higher can he feasibly go with current storylines?

Some kind of push... they gave him the US title and things were looking good and then suddenly they decided to go with the whole how many different ways could you injury Ryder angles... which they repeated again on Raw! No wonder it fizzled out.

They shouldn't make Bryan face, it would defeat the whole purpose. The whole 'Yes' thing is a heel tactic in the same vein the 'What!' thing was... thats why its popular. Bryan should play the role of a heel as its one thing heavily lacking in WWE at the moment, a heel that is over with the crowd. The good thing about Bryan is, as you mentioned he is already in the main event on Smackdown that it could easily be transferred to Raw too and create feuds with the likes of Cena, Punk and the upper card faces.
 
Obviously they like his character so there's no need for no face turn. All WWE is have to use him the right way and the rest DB can do himself which is the same thing he has been doing since he stepped foot in the WWE. I like the point people made about Ryder....Everyone was rooting for him 8month ago just to get TV time on RAW. Not only was he on RAW but Smackdown also and it seems his popularity declined. I dont want that for Bryan
 
Obviously they like his character so there's no need for no face turn. All WWE is have to use him the right way and the rest DB can do himself which is the same thing he has been doing since he stepped foot in the WWE. I like the point people made about Ryder....Everyone was rooting for him 8month ago just to get TV time on RAW. Not only was he on RAW but Smackdown also and it seems his popularity declined. I dont want that for Bryan

Haha, I don't either. It just seems so counter-intuitive to think that the best thing for him is to continue doing heel shit... particularly when he's getting bigger pops than ANYONE else.

Truly a unique situation they have for Bryan.
 
Why rush a push if it's going to fizzle out quickly? People were jumping all over Ryder's nuts, and when they finally gave him some kind of push...he's more or less fizzled out.

Kind of like Punk but I believe it's more on the WWE's part than anything else. It seems like the WWE does not know how to properly capitalize on an expected breakout star. But I guess this makes logical sense if the WWE and creative was not responsible for a superstar's success how can you expect them to keep the momentum running once they control of that superstars' creative direction?

Kind of like when an screenplay writer has movie script that is buzzed around Hollywood. Then a movie studio takes notice and buy the rights to the movie but makes changes to the original script and undermining its quality.
 
YES! He needs to win clean over Sheamus at Extreme Rules, send Sheamus back to FCW and allow the YES! Generation to take over! YES! YES! YES!

Well that's a bit ridiculous don't you think? Sheamus is incredibly over and the WHC for goodness sake.

Anywho, D-Bry seems to have become a darling amongst the wrestling fans since going down in 18 seconds to Sheamus. I'm happy for him. I love Bryan and think he is just an absolutely incredible talent and I hope the WWE continues with him in the main event scene for sometime. He has the in ring skills and I think his mic work is better than people give him credit for. This Yes thing is hot right now and if it continues we will likely see Bryan stay towards the top of the card. However it seems the crowd seems to be inconsistent. He was hot in Florida, but not nearly as hot last week (that I remember) and London loves the guy. Lets see if it sticks everywhere and then let WWE ride that momentum.
 
D-bry is very over atm, but if you think that it has nothing to do the wwe creative writers, or that its happened in spite of them, your kidding yourself. I seem to remember another thread where someone asked if the wwe had done everything possible to make Daniel the ultimate IWC babyface, that is totally what's happened. we plaster our opinions all over the message boards every week, creative definitely takes notice of some of the things that are said. It's like with austin, nothing gets the faces cheering as loud as when they think they are sticking it to Vince. so yes a face push probably would kill Daniel's momentum as it wouldn't be as cool or edgy to cheer for a guy that is trying to get you to like him.
 
Bryan's in a good place. They need to handle it delicately. Putting him over Sheamus is a bad idea. Sheamus is over more than Bryan, and on a more consistent basis. He's a good, reliable, main event face who can do whatever it is you need him to do. Taking the title off of him after a month, especially dropping it right back to the guy who he crushed in 18 seconds, just isn't sound booking. Sheamus should win the match, and then Bryan ought to be drafted to Raw. He's all about the live crowd right now, and they should exploit that. Draft him to Raw and put him on the medium burner to a face turn. There's a surplus of rising heels in the WWE and a dearth of rising faces. Bryan can fill that void. The touchy part is that the crowd seems to be reacting to him being an asshole. So the question is, are they just popping for anything Bryan does, or does he need to remain an asshole to stay over? This is where it gets delicate, because if you start to experiment, you could lose everything. Examples, off the top of my head, are guys like Stone Cold and Zack Ryder, both of whom really played the same character as a heel or face, but got the appropriate crowd reaction mostly as a matter of who they were facing. Is Bryan that kind of a guy? Does he need to be the womanizing vegan to get over with the crowd? Or can he transition to a more clean cut face, and still be over? Alternatively, can he remain an asshole character and connect with the audience at large? I suspect the answer is somewhere in the middle - much as when he was at his height in ROH, he should maintain cockiness and attitude, but downplay the more overt actions of bastardry.

Paradoxically, at the precise moment the WWE has to be delicate, they have to strike rapidly. Creating stars is a small window. Bryan is on fire right now. He has the catchphrase, he has the T-shirt, he has the chant. He has everything. My proposal, then, is to draft him to Raw and give a pseudo-face thing a try. Pit him against Rhodes or Ziggler and see how it shakes out. If the crowd really gets behind him as a face, go nuts with it. Push him to the top. Let him wrestle Punk over the summer. If the crowd doesn't buy the face turn, nix it and let him become the heel midcard fixture for a while, until they have need of his return to the world title level.
 
Keep him heel
WWE tamed CM Punk a lil to much turning him to a normal face.....
DBD is great the way he is...DONT FUCK IT UP

Well, now, don't forget, around the time when Punk had his "contract negotiations" a few months back, WWE wanted Punk to be a heel (you can always kinda tell how the WWE wants the fans to feel), but you couldn't help but get behind him. And it was around this time that I thought Punk was pretty much the best thing to happen to the WWE in a long time. He wasn't a generic heel or face, he was a legitimately interesting character, and I loved it.

It's these breaks from the norm that create true superstars better than any face push or heel turn.

Now, Creative took over and decided to focus on Punk's straight edge lifestyle (again), and that has kind of watered down his character, but that doesn't devalue his rise to being one of the biggest draws around.
 
I am sorry for the abuse, because I know that this will inlcude many of those reading, but I hate the wrestling fanbase nowadays. The stupidity is beyond me. How long had D-Bry been in the WWE? 5 Minutes? Just because the latest in thing is to jump on the back of Daniel Bryan does not mean he is deserving of or should recieve a huge push.

The second they push him the fans will lose interest, because the industry moves so fast nowadays, werestler's aren't even given time to see if a character works.

Daniel Bryan can be a main player for years to come. Why do you want it ALL right now?
 
I'm loving how a global crowd has latched on to Miami's overt fondness for YES! YES! YES!

What I'm not loving, however, is how Michael and Jerry totally ignored the PAYING crowd's chants during commentary to talk incessantly about things other than the match. In fact, there was only one throw away comment by Jerry after Kofi tapped out.

WWE are utilising twitter to market their product for free. In doing so, trends like YES! YES! YES! snowball much faster than the WHAT? era. WWE's creative team must work much faster (they do have a week...) to keep their product fresh.


Wait... I'm just reading what I've written and WWE are smart. I'm frustrated (like many other D Bry fans) enough to write a comment about it... I think this is what they want... I'm off to buy a YES! YES! YES! shirt.
 
Getting back on subject, Bryan was massively over last night. I was lucky enough to also be in Miami for RAW the night after Mania and quite frankly I have never heard a reaction quite like the one Bryan received.

Fair enough, the crowd was hot all night long, and they expended a lot of energy in that continuous pop for Lesnar, but as soon as the camera's turned off and the non televised main event kicked in, as soon as his music started the entire place erupted like I have never experienced before.

The man is over right now, but I agree delicate steps have to be taken to keep things that way.
 
if you think this is a great reaction, just wait untill chicago. Chicago, new york, and philadelphia have the best crowds and especially since cm punk is going to be drawing alot of the crowd, its going to be a bunch of very smart fans.
 
18 secs that shook the wrestling world! lol I hate to admit it but his "loss" at WM28 has made him a WWE wrestling God! I was and still have always been a huge fan of his. He went from a semi over person who really had no following unless you liked him from the ROH days to the CM Punk of 2012. I just hope they don't screw up with him like they did with the who Punk "have to get my big nose out there because I'm so self absorb" HHH feud that took steam out of the push.

The only real place he hasn't gotten a pop since WM is DC, but it is DC so that's ignorable.
 
Well, now, don't forget, around the time when Punk had his "contract negotiations" a few months back, WWE wanted Punk to be a heel (you can always kinda tell how the WWE wants the fans to feel), but you couldn't help but get behind him. And it was around this time that I thought Punk was pretty much the best thing to happen to the WWE in a long time. He wasn't a generic heel or face, he was a legitimately interesting character, and I loved it.

It's these breaks from the norm that create true superstars better than any face push or heel turn.

Now, Creative took over and decided to focus on Punk's straight edge lifestyle (again), and that has kind of watered down his character, but that doesn't devalue his rise to being one of the biggest draws around.

WWE may have wanted him a heal (as I remember him ripping the fans for buying CENA crap and calling them part of the problem) BUT the fans were and still are so sick of Cena that they turned it around and no matter what they did or said, they cheered him.
 
Why rush a push if it's going to fizzle out quickly? People were jumping all over Ryder's nuts, and when they finally gave him some kind of push...he's more or less fizzled out.

The WWE monumentally fucked Ryder. Firstly by not giving him the belt at Survivor Series when he was outpopping The Rock, secondly by turning him into the sidekick of IWC hate magnet Cena and thirdly by turning him into a loser with this Eve nonsense.
 
I am also in the boat where the audience is just loving daniel bryan right now as am I. That loss to Sheamus in what 18 seconds was disgusting on the wwe's part IMO and the audience is letting them know about it. YES YES YES!! I for one hope DB regains the title at ER and goes on another long run with it.

He is extremely talented and can wrestle circles around the main roster including jericho and punk IMO!! Shame on WWE for treating DB this way
 
The WWE monumentally fucked Ryder. Firstly by not giving him the belt at Survivor Series when he was outpopping The Rock, secondly by turning him into the sidekick of IWC hate magnet Cena and thirdly by turning him into a loser with this Eve nonsense.

I couldn't have said it better myself. While I am not really a Ryder fan, this was a classic FU bury job if I ever saw one. WWE didn't like he was getting over without them via youtube. So they buried him faster than a Swagger World Heavyweight Championship run.

They may try and do it I'm afraid with DB also.
 
Oh for the love of God, people.


Vince McMahon brought back Bret Hart. He brought back Ultimate Warrior...TWICE. He brought in Eric Bischoff. He brought back Hogan after he tried to put Vince out of business.

In the business world, there are no hard feelings that a $ can't forgive. That being said, I'm sure that WWE didn't give two rat's asses about Ryder getting over on his own. A bunch of people have gotten over on their own over the years...i.e. Steve Austin. WWE is a business organization run by business-savvy people, not the least of which is Vince McMahon himself. WWE is no longer associated with the "Good Ole Boys" network of pro-wrestling antiquity. By delaying the push of Ryder, WWE left you wanting more. Then, you ultimately decided that you didn't want any more, and they fed him to Kane.

Now, back to D-Bry. The guy is a 1-time WHC and is at the top of Smackdown. He's not John Cena...he's far off, to be sure. He's no CM Punk. He's definitely not The Rock, and he's not even close to being as over as Brock Lesnar is, who's been gone for 8 years. He has a catchphrase that everyone says at the arena? Great. So did the New Age Outlaws, The Godfather, Al Snow, likely many more...and you didn't see Vince putting them up against Austin at PPVs. He's already in the main event...probably the #3 or #4 storyline in WWE at the moment. That means he's in the top 6-8 guys. How much higher does he really deserve? Should they push out Jericho, an established performer entrenched w/ Punk? Should they send Brock down to the midcard and put Bryan up against Cena? What more could you possibly want right now?

Chant YES! YES! YES! until you lose your voice. We'll see in the middle of the summer if this is legit or not. If it will make Vince money to elevate D-Bry further, then he will definitely do it. Until then, Bryan is already in the main event...so your complaining is really foolish.
 
Why rush a push if it's going to fizzle out quickly? People were jumping all over Ryder's nuts, and when they finally gave him some kind of push...he's more or less fizzled out.

Give it a couple months...he's already in the main-event of Smackdown. How much higher can he feasibly go with current storylines?



Well to be honest, Ryder hasnt really gotten a push and WWE failed miserably at pushing him when he was most over, guy has been kane's little stunt dummy, cena's bitch, then he was eve's bitch(culminating in a kick to the balls at wrestlemania).

And why is that? because Vince didnt like the fact that this kid got over by his own, and he cant credit his popularity to one of his bored writers, but he can in the case of bryan(which still got over unintentionally). So when the ratings were horribly low on that raw when Daniel Bryan, Cm Punk and Ryder all showed off theyre respective gold and competed in the main event, he decided it was Ryder's fault, and hence his continued burial.

Btw, i want to clarify that i dont like Zack Ryder much and dont care for his youtube show, but enough is enough.Rarely do you see this type of deliberate burial these days.
 

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