LINDA MCMAHON LOSES SENATE RACE

[Sting's Bat]

Pg is here to stay regradless of Lindas loss, Its easier to write for, it gets them a easy to please audience, and they are making good money off of the merch sales.

Overall im glad she lost though.

 

[Vintage Nick]

Come on people, get the fuck over it. Linda losing the Senate race will NOT effect PG WWE in any way. WWE will continue with the "Stand up for WWE", the PG Era, and will still some childish elements every few shows. So can we please just lock all PG Era threads that pop up now? There's so many of them right now!

 

[Ghost of Benoit]

Well yes WWE will most Likely still be PG. But they could be Edgier in a PG raiting. I mean look at The Simpsons a Tv show for the family. They have Curse words and violence on a PG cartoon show. So Why Can't WWE?

and u dont consider 2 men "fighting" with moves and punched and kicks and what not violent? they arent exactly in the ringing drinking tea and eating biscuits are they?

and curse words on national tv...yea good one...

 

[prestonluv]

You guys are so obsessed with the kiddies its ridiculous. If he WWF had good writers they would appeal across all age groups. They dont tho...so you guys blame it on them trying to please the kiddies.

Teenagers are not going to start watching just cause of a little blood and a few titties...they come cause of a well written storylne. Which are few and far between.

The attendence is way down on all shows. You know what this means, the merchandise selling is way down as well. So please get off this kids things as kids have always watched it and bought stuff...even during the attitude era.

If you have good story writers you will appeal to a wide range of people, if those story writers come up with multiple edgy scenarios here blood is involved then Vince might go to a TV 14 rating.

Linda losing will only benefit those who want a TV 14 or M rating, but all you will get is crappy storylines with a few more ass shots and some blood. Good for a 5 minute peek but not enough to keep you watching.

Sigh, my head hurts.

 

[fb481777]

Are you seriously whinning about using a curse word?! How old are you, really? I personally can see this loss for Linda McMahon as a change for WWE or at least a room to change a little bit.

People (WWE Fans) who complain that a show is not good or as good because wrestlers are not stooping to lower ignorant lack of an education sounding stool of speech by using curse words NEEDS TO GROW UP AND GET A BETTER LIFE!

While the loss in the Senate race can impact the viewing and writing direction of the WWE, I find it personally satisfying that FINALLY WWE has been able to write great scripts with OUT the usage of cursing God's name in vain and other pathetic curse words!

Would I like to see grudgier matches such as blood, etc.? Sure, those intense matches solitified the intensity and somewhat realism that wrestling can offer. Do I want to see wreslters hurt or career's ended for bloods sake? Heck No!

Let's keep it in perspective folks - I am realy appuled by the fact that people think cursing will help the cause, the only cause that is being helped is your own sickening hearts desires which help to manipulate peoples minds in how one should talk to someone. You can be angry and not have to display it ignorantly.

Linda McMahon - I hope she runs again, but then again, as a result of this loss - I do feel that many more doors for the WWE are open a little bid wider now as a result.

Well yes WWE will most Likely still be PG. But they could be Edgier in a PG raiting. I mean look at The Simpsons a Tv show for the family. They have Curse words and violence on a PG cartoon show. So Why Can't WWE?

 

[Rayne]

How will the results of this Senate race affect the WWE?

It won't. Not one little bit. The PG rating, which is blamed for all kinds of ills it has nothing to do with, from poor content to hunger in Zimbabwe, was never about Linda McMahon's Senate campaign. It's about providing an environment where you can bring your kids to see a show without having to explain later what a "ho" is, or why they've never seen one of Val Venis's movies. And, while you're there, purchasing a $200 spinner belt so they go home happy. On a global perspective (remember, most of the WWE's growth right now is occurring overseas, especially in the more moderate Asian market), it sells better.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

The only thing that I see going away are those stupid "Stand up for the WWE" ad campaigns.

The PG rating is not going anywhere. WWE is doing OK both in business and in the ratings department. There is no wrestling company that can challenge WWE's supremacy at this moment. Plus even if WWE goes back to TV-14 rating, I don't think there is any superstar in the company who can take advantage of it and become a Rock or an Austin. The only guy in WWE who could possibly gain from a non-PG environment is John Cena if he goes back to his rapper gimmick. But there too there's the risk that Cena's current fanbase of kids might get pissed off. So I do not think that the PG rating is going to go away.

BTW, won't it be a cool storyline if Linda comes out on Raw and starts blaming Vince and his product as the reason for her loss.

 

[Why Always Me]

Well yes WWE will most Likely still be PG. But they could be Edgier in a PG raiting. I mean look at The Simpsons a Tv show for the family. They have Curse words and violence on a PG cartoon show. So Why Can't WWE?

If I remember correctly (hoping someone can clarify this), Raw was PG for the first part of the Attitude Era and Smackdown was PG throughout, yet there was still mild cursing (Sh*t, P*ss, B*tch, Ass, even P*ssy once), bleeding, women wearing next to nothing and more violent violence. I think that Raw and Smackdown perhaps could stay PG with the boundaries pushed like they used to be with the PG rating and PPV's should be TV14. We pay for the PPV's so perhaps we should get a little more from them.

 

[DeathClutch]

It's pretty much already been stated why WWE can't revert back to Attitude era edgy tv, due to contracts with higher powers, however I do believe WWE could use some formula from 1998-1999 into todays product just with a pg rating,

even go back as far as 1997 and use up a bunch of guys and factions, and bring back the hardcore title for the lower guys, it seems to me WWE has no use for some guys and they get lost in the shuffle, well introduce a lower card belt and teams to use some of the guys up like they did in 1997-1998.

Linda's failed attempt at politics should be looked at is what it is, her own adventure and not a wwe plight.

 

[mr_dna]

We Could see her rejoin WWE no one knows , but her losing will not affect the WWE at all i think

Let me say first i would like to see the PG era end but the fact is it aint going to happen. I really dont get why you think it will. WWE is making more money now then they were 5 years ago out of the PG Era . WWE has Share Holders and Share Holder want to make money so as long as they are making that money why change

 

[Bmu007]

Few thoughts i would like to throw in. First i dont know do you think vince would really throw another 50million down the toilet after this? If thats what she really spend campaining. Also the nexus/heart dynasty match. When kid landed on his partner did he yell out fuck? It sounded like it to me clear as day lol

 

[vampirek]

If I remember correctly (hoping someone can clarify this), Raw was PG for the first part of the Attitude Era and Smackdown was PG throughout, yet there was still mild cursing (Sh*t, P*ss, B*tch, Ass, even P*ssy once), bleeding, women wearing next to nothing and more violent violence. I think that Raw and Smackdown perhaps could stay PG with the boundaries pushed like they used to be with the PG rating and PPV's should be TV14. We pay for the PPV's so perhaps we should get a little more from them.

That is correct, hell even Nitro was PG during the beginning of the NWO angle. People haven't got a clue what PG is, they say the WWE cutting down on things and think its due to a rating that in Smackdown case was always there. Things like blood and chair shots to the head were banned for health reasons and nothing to do with PG, Linda or anything else. The use of swear words was cut out because was it really needed? It just added a shock value when said and so when someone will finally say it itll be a shock once again.
Face the facts, Linda's campaign did nothing to change the WWE (apart from Stand up for the WWE). The death of Benoit, the investigations did however and that will take years to rebuild from.

 

[The_Dude]

This isn't a "blood" issue, or a "puppies" issue, this is a creative issue. There's no doubt that the attitude era was cutting edge for its time. However it wasn't because of all the blood, street fights, and foul language. It was because of the creativity that the product sored to new heights, week in and week out the WWF had to put out the best possible product just to compete with WCW. Now it's been pretty obvious that the WWE hasn't had to push themselves as hard to be number 1 because there isn't even a number 2. Now everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but if you think that the WWE has been putting out the highest quality product in terms of story, depth, action, and creativity, for the last ten years you'd be wrong. The WWE can be PG, G, R, 13, or whatever it want's to be as long it's puts out a compelling product, which I felt it hasn't for quite awhile. The fact that the WWE is the de facto number 1 is what's wrong with the company. Don't think for a second that if Vince's back was to the wall and TNA blew up that he wouldn't do whatever it took to remain the top wrestling brand in the world. If that meant putting out a more adult product, or having Mae Young give birth to a hand, he would do it in a heart beat. However I'm not foolish enough to believe that Vince doesn't answer to anybody, the business side of wrestling has changed drastically over the last ten years. He's got shareholders, and advertising executives to answer to. At best the product from here on out will be able to grow without repercussions of what it will do do anyone's (Linda) career, instead of being filtered as it is now. As to whether or not we will see another attitude era again, my guess is no. To many ingredients need to come together for that type a change, the WWE currently has little to none of it within the company right now.

 

[Honkey_Kong]

As much as I was hoping an edgier product would come once Linda failed (I hear she spent 40 million of Vince's dollars in the campaign), but realistically, the move to PG wasn't entirely a political move as all Linda's opponent would have to do is play some attitude era clip to demonize her (thinking the average voter doesn't watch wrestling).

But I don't agree with some the common saying in the IWC that their content is cyclical. I don't remember a time before the attitude era, where the WWWF/WWF had some old bag giving birth to a hand, or a porn star wrestler (I know Val Venis was a reincarnation of Rick Rude's character, but Rude wasn't half as perverted character-wise).

I think the guy who said it best was the guy who quoted Bischoff. It's hard to make a racy product, when your sponsors will threaten to cut advertising if you put out a product that associates them with filth. Or just a corporation afraid of law suits from offending people.

But mark my words, they're not going to get much filthier now that Linda failed.

 

[closet_fan]

This makes me snicker considering Vince probably thought she was a shoe in with all the money they spent, all the merchandise they gave away and all the propaganda they spread to try and get her in.

Vince hates losing. I am sure he didn't take it well.

 

[Aeon Mathix]

I personally have never had a problem with this PG era. Ive watched since the 80's I've been through the Attitude era all of that. The fact is, I'm glad the WWE got rid of things like blading and things of that nature. The wrestler's are a lot safer now than they used to be. No more chair shots to the head or anything like that. You all seem to forget that the WWE has produced some damn great matches since this "Turn" (which isnt even a turn, "PG" is NOTHING at all new to Pro-Wrestling), we have had matches like The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels, twice may I remind you, John Morrison vs Sheamus, Cena and Randy put on some stellar matches last year, And we just saw a fanatastic series between Dolph Ziggler and Daniel Bryan. Plus we had that Triple H/Randy Orton storyline leading up to WM last year and that was on PG television (ya the match didn't deliver but not the point). Ya there are some things I personally would like to see stop, like these pointless guest hosts segments, hornswoggle, santino, etc. But I can see why they do the pathetic attempts at humor, No one wants to just sit through 2 hours of straight wrestling, Ok I would, but the average fans wants to be entertained by that sort of stuff. It's working for WWE right now and maybe Vince will put more edge on it soon, maybe he wont, but theres just really no point in making an "Attitude Era 2.0" for the sake of some smarks on the Internet who want to see blood, guts, and breasts.

 

[DeathClutch]

This makes me snicker considering Vince probably thought she was a shoe in with all the money they spent, all the merchandise they gave away and all the propaganda they spread to try and get her in.

Vince hates losing. I am sure he didn't take it well.

What this guy said is absolutely spot on.

The money and merch spent and give away to their target market 18-34 & 35-65 WWE failed, did it ever occur to Vince, Linda her team that them giving away merch and spending 50 million was insulting the voters intelligence? did they ever think that IF they were going to win, Vinces stunt on Monday night might just have killed Lindas political run?

I honestly believe Vinces segment on RAW hurt Linda's chances tenfold, and considering the market that voted again her was market the WWE audiences would be makes it laughable.

Linda should retire her political career now, and move back to WWE, and Vince making more money NOW then he did in the Attitude Era days I call bullshit, I remember a shopping channel back in the day (1998-1999) selling WWF stuff and within minutes would be sold out, Beyond the mat (doc) also have a glimpsie of the meetings in regards to merch meetings and what was selling, and what wasn't. so PG or not, Now Linda is out of the politics Vince should be getting his team of writers to come up with something edgy, end of the day the pg fans now will grow up and feel insulted and move on.

 

[FattysGoneWild]

Thrilled and pleased she lost. Trying to buy her way in did not work this time. Money can't buy everything in life! This proves it. And that stunt on Raw did not help matters at all. Very childish and disrespectful. Amazing how people can just throw away money like that. Imagine the people they could have helped.

 

[martymcfly]

I agree with the posters above me. Vince seems to be under the impression that he is hilarious and that people love his infantile humor. Also, how in the world did he think that announcing how much money was spent on the campaign would win voters?

But the worst part was using linda's opponent's sign to cover his ass as he walked away. Totally classless.

 

[HBKevin]

I thought the hospital skit was pretty funny, personally. Yeah, the McMahons tried to buy her way into office and spent an outrageous amount of money, but so does every politician from the two major parties these days. They were just more honest about it.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Yeah, the McMahons tried to buy her way into office and spent an outrageous amount of money, but so does every politician from the two major parties these days.

But not to the extent that the McMahons did. I doubt most politicians have $41.3 million to put into their campaign......nor would they do it if they did have it.

I'm thrilled the election is over so I don't have to see Linda ads flooding the airwaves every time I turned on the damn TV. Her opponent was forced to respond in kind and the whole thing became a circus; as befitting a McMahon production.

The saddest thing is how effective all this advertising is (it's the only reason she got as close as she did).....but it shouldn't be when it comes to choosing someone to represent you in the U.S. Senate. After all, do people actually make up their minds based on how often they see Linda on TV? If so, that's really pathetic.

As for the PG rating, I would love to see WWE go back to coarser programming, but if they do it now, it would prove conclusively that the only reason they went PG was so that Linda could get elected senator.

If that's the case......if they kept an entertainment company hostage to the political whims of the owner...... it wouldn't be amiss if Vince & Linda McMahon eventually lost their audience completely and went under. After all, they already spent over $40 million of their own money and don't even have a senator in the family to show for it.

 

[Kenny Powers]

This isn't the end of the PG era or Linda McMahon's political future. Which is sad because if I see another Stand up For WWE video I'll puke. Linda will probably run for Senator again down the road. Even if she weren't running, I don't think WWE will abandoned his wholesome image anytime soon. There is really no other way around it. If someone is really that bothered by a PG rating, they shouldn't watch at all.

 

[Honkey_Kong]

I agree with the posters above me. Vince seems to be under the impression that he is hilarious and that people love his infantile humor. Also, how in the world did he think that announcing how much money was spent on the campaign would win voters?

But the worst part was using linda's opponent's sign to cover his ass as he walked away. Totally classless.

I think Vince realises that most of the boobs who were going to vote against Linda weren't ever going to see it. Face it, despite all the voting promotion the WWE does, most wrestling fans don't care about voting. And on top of that, her opponent didn't have enough time to make a response commercial.

 

[closet_fan]

It really doesn't matter if the PG era stays or goes. If the writing and storylines stay as stale as they have been, you can dump as much blood and violence as you want, but it still won't make things better if the writing doesn't improve with it.

And I hope Vince doesn't make himself more of an on-air character. In the 90's it was okay because he still looked somewhat youthful. After that skit, I see a very old man who is trying to act as young as possible to keep up with the young bucks that he employs.

 

[King Neidhart]

Im just wondering when all the hate for Linda started??? 2-3 years ago everyone would have said Linda is the only normal person in the McMahon family and just because she runs for Senate and it might have had an effect on WWE everyone hates her????

Its so unbelievably hypocritical to have liked her when she was slapping Vince at Mania or kicking Ross in the nuts. Then all the sudden people change their view because she MIGHT have changed the flow of wrestling.

Its like she is the new John Cena with the ill like you if you do this but not that kinda thing the fans do now.