Lex Lugers comments

[wrestling247]

FROM PWMANIA.com

was recentley let in on a portion of good old eric bishoffs new book. again as usual eric does nothing but run his mouth to make a few bucks.

Eric went as far as saying kevin nash was lazy. questioned paul heyman. and said i can not draw a dime.

Eric says he didnt have a open checkbook. BULLSHIT. Instead of blaming wcws demise on wwe and vince mcmann maybe eric should look in the mirror.

Everyone remembers how shitty wcw was when vince ruesso took over. eric stop blaming wcw,s problems on the wrestlers creative control so on. remember bash at the beach 2000? it was a god damn sham and ratings fell 30% after that stupid idea.

Jbl you have nothing to say about this. your a god damn pissant in wwe that does nothing but pick on smaller guys backstage. and you have the balls to put me down? give me a damn break.

Well eric. on some points of this book might just be true. but come on you will do anything to keep fame going your way. i can let the spoiler out that your just doing this and publishing this book so you can have a angle to bring the nwo in vs dx. woops sorry about that spoiler.

It seems the chance of a dx vs nwo angle is very real
Your thoughts

 

[razor7]

FROM PWMANIA.com

i can let the spoiler out that your just doing this and publishing this book so you can have a angle to bring the nwo in vs dx. woops sorry about that spoiler.

It seems the chance of a dx vs nwo angle is very real
Your thoughts

My thoughts are I still see no news of Hall or Nash signing. I still see no poster, no videos. What I do see are a bunch of people who really WISH it were true, and will READ into everything to make it so.

Also, even if they signed look at the age factor, they are old and over the hill. Hogan can barely move, Nash is injury prone and Hall is out of shape and has already said he doesn't want to do the road schedule.

People should remember what happened when WCW signed the Warrior. He popped ratings one week and the angle SUCKED big time.

The NWO vs. DX would be exactly the same ... pop the ratings for a week at best and then die. And also, Vince has already shown he has no idea how to book the NWO. It was REALLY bad the last time they showed up.

 

[wrestling247]

that is very true the talk is that the abgke would just last for a month but thats all it will be, just talk

 

[gza/genuis]

hey, screw Eric, whats with all the Luger hating. Les Luger is a wrestling great in my mind. HE was near the top of the business for over a decade. ANd what the hell does JBL done in his career to talk shit about Luger. JBL is and always will be a TAG TEAM SPECIALIST, who got over in a new gimmick at the end of his career only because he had Eddie to work with in his first program to get him over, also hands down the worst color commentor EVER.

 

[razor7]

hey, screw Eric, whats with all the Luger hating. Les Luger is a wrestling great in my mind. HE was near the top of the business for over a decade. ANd what the hell does JBL done in his career to talk shit about Luger. JBL is and always will be a TAG TEAM SPECIALIST, who got over in a new gimmick at the end of his career only because he had Eddie to work with in his first program to get him over, also hands down the worst color commentor EVER.

What has Luger done to make him a wrestling giant?

 

[krcampbell24]

Watch the Brian Pillman DVD, you'll see that Eric Bischoff isn't the only one who thinks Luger is useless. Pillman carried Luger to do things he couldn't do on his own. Or maybe you should watch the video where Bruiser Brody no-sells young Luger's offense and Luger scurries away like a coward after he (the face) beats up referee Bill Alfonso and climbs out of the cage.

Oh, and Lex Luger killed Miss Elizabeth. Lex Luger's awful ring skills pale in comparison to how awful of a human being he is. Drugs, violence, general irresponsbility...they aren't "demons", they're the result of Luger being a miserable person. JBL, meanwhile, is a brilliant financial mind who could leave the WWE because his intelligence allows him to make money. Think about it like that...who gives a shit what they could do in the ring (because Bradshaw is close to being as bad as Luger). At least Bradshaw is just asshole...Luger is a murderer.

 

[ShatterOfDreams]

What has Luger done to make him a wrestling giant?

You obviously havent watched many oldschool wrestling tapes. Luger has had a great career. He probably is before your time though.

 

[ShatterOfDreams]

Luger didnt kill Elizabeth. Elizabeth killed herself dumbass. JBL's carreer is nothing compared to Lugers. Lex Luger was 10X a better wrestler than JBL ever was. JBL is even a better commentator than he was a wrestler and that shows something. JBL never should have been a main eventer, much like Rey Mysterio never should have been a main eventer.

 

[Jerry]

this is why you let Eric Bischoff have control over the nWo angle...he would do it right...not Vince or Shane or Stephanie

 

[v14ever]

Luger didnt kill Elizabeth. Elizabeth killed herself dumbass. JBL's carreer is nothing compared to Lugers. Lex Luger was 10X a better wrestler than JBL ever was. JBL is even a better commentator than he was a wrestler and that shows something. JBL never should have been a main eventer, much like Rey Mysterio never should have been a main eventer.

You're right about Elizabeth to a point. I believe they were in a hotel room or something like that, and Luger had the drugs on him and they were doing them together. If they were not present, and if Luger wasn't so much of an addict, Elizabeth would still be here. She killed herself, yes, but I think Luger had a big hand in it.

 

[Wall_of_Jericho]

Well that's the cat out the bag now on the nWo angle.

 

[razor7]

You obviously havent watched many oldschool wrestling tapes. Luger has had a great career. He probably is before your time though.

No my time goes back to Roddy Piper getting his head shaved by CHAVO sr. in the Olympic. I am asking what YOU think Luger has done that is that great. Please tell me.

Is it that match against Flair on PPV in the mid 80s where he press slammed Flair twice, flexed on him and couple of times and spent the rest of the match having Flair make him look good.

Is it his LOUSY run as champ after Flair, Tully, Arn left the fed? Where he feuded with Windham and drew squat?

 

[slikrik84]

I would say that he solidified himself in both organizations man. He is a former winner of the Royal Rumble, 2 time WCW Champion (Including a fantastic match against Hogan on Nitro where he basically took on the whole NWO), and main evented in both big organizations. Whether you liked his style or not he was big time. He is possibly the biggest reason that WCW started off huge on Nitro. The fact that people never knew who might show up and then when other guys did (Hall and Nash etc.) it exploded. The guy has done plenty and main evented with the greatest wrestlers of all time (Hogan, Savage, Flair, Sting, etc.) You are being ignorant if you are just going to pretend like he never was a huge star.

 

[slikrik84]

I still remember when Luger showed up on Nitro, I couldn't believe it. And obviously the WWF couldn't either since he has been snubbed so far on a DVD, Hall of Fame, etc. There are guys from that era that you can debate as legends like DDP, and a few others. But two guys that are way overlooked are Sid and Luger. Both of these guys have done a lot in the business and fans like yourself need to start showing them respect.

 

[razor7]

I would say that he solidified himself in both organizations man. He is a former winner of the Royal Rumble, 2 time WCW Champion (Including a fantastic match against Hogan on Nitro where he basically took on the whole NWO), and main evented in both big organizations. Whether you liked his style or not he was big time. He is possibly the biggest reason that WCW started off huge on Nitro. The fact that people never knew who might show up and then when other guys did (Hall and Nash etc.) it exploded. The guy has done plenty and main evented with the greatest wrestlers of all time (Hogan, Savage, Flair, Sting, etc.) You are being ignorant if you are just going to pretend like he never was a huge star.

Luger was carried by Flair and the NWO. The WWF and WCW were neck and neck in the ratings until HALL showed up in the WCW. The NWO put it over, simple as that. WCW would not have beaten Raw 80 PLUS weeks without the NWO and if Luger had been in the main event with the belt and there was no NWO how would WCW have done? Exactly ... He main evented in the WWF yes this is correct, but how come Vince never put the gold on him? Luger had a great physique, but outside of that if you saw one Lex match you saw them all same with JBL

 

[krcampbell24]

A lot of people put a lot of faith in Luger and they all regret it. Bischoff clearly does (as seen in the WWE.com interviews). Same goes for Vince, who almost gave him the title twice, and Luger fucked it up both times. That's what happens when you get drunk and brag about being the next WWF Champ: you become one half of the Allied Powers, wrestling Jacob and Eli Blu.

 

[mysticx0]

luger...cmon man. learn how to spell, at least just a little bit. jeez.

jbl commenting on anyones in ring skills is funny considering he was garbage in the ring and could never hold anyones attention without being surrounded by others. he was nothing during the MNW and the ratings for SD! during his title reign were some of the worst of the shows history, a sad hole that show is still trying to climb out of.

and bischoff...well its such a sweet story how he sees the fall of wcw. at least he admitted he was totally out of ideas in the interview because we all knew it. but the way he picks and chooses the things that were his fault is pathetic.

luger, im so tired of hearing about the days gone by or the days that should have been for you. you were good in the 80's (at least entertaining IMO) but after you left for the WWE your true colors shown. your return to wcw just cemented your lack of skills and why they kept you around so long is beyond me.

 

[SixStrangSmoker]

I once talked personally with the wrestler known as "The Maestro" in WCW a few years ago. (Remember, he came down to the ring while playing a piano.) I can't remember his real name but he was really cool and told me a few things.

He said when Vince bought WCW and Shane McMahon came in on that last episode of Nitro, Shane noticed how much of a huge Coke-head that Evan Couragious was so he never had a job since,

he also told me that one time he witnessed a big fight backstage between Bischoff and Sting and I swear to God he said that Sting tod Bishoff that if he got rid of Luger then he would quit. Bischoff told him that Luger would never have had a job there if it wasn't for Sting. I've noticed since then that wherever Sting goes, Luger appears in some way eventually.

 

[mysticx0]

ive met stro a few times also he used to have a column here at wrestlezone for those long time visitors like me

anyway luger always shows up because he and sting are best friends in real life, they own gyms together, etc. so im sure sting gets him jobs.

 

[slikrik84]

Whatever Lex was the shit.

 

[Smokeydogg]

this is why you let Eric Bischoff have control over the nWo angle...he would do it right...not Vince or Shane or Stephanie

ya like thats gonna happen

 

[Kasey]

I'll probably be in disagreeance with many on here, and that's not a first. As a person, I don't know much about Luger with the exception to the whole Elizabeth fiasco, but then again: What would you expect to happen to drug addicts? The only difference between Liz and any of the others who died was that she was seen differently because of her gentle nature. As far as Luger's in-ring self goes, he was one of Vince's top guys in an era where guys like Hogan and Warrior had left many potholes in the industry and wrestling as a whole was in a major recession. It was horrible in those days and Monday Night Raw was putting out the kind of numbers TNA does for Impact right now. Luger, as someone already stated, pissed away his chance to have the belt in Vince's eyes. However, it's stupid not to see an angle to fruition that you spend two years developing, even if a boozing wrestler gives away a spoiler.

Watch Luger's matches with Sting at Superbrawl II (his last WCW match of that era) or his matches against Yokozuna at SS '93 or Wrestlemania X. Luger could still move and control a crowd and did until Vince missed his window of opportunity and Luger's push fizzled. He wasn't a technical great, but that wasn't his game. After all, he was an ex-CFL player who was a bodybuilder who happened to get into wrestling. From 96 through 97 he was one of the top guys in the entire business as far as faces go. One of WCW's highest rated episodes was the three hour event where he Racked Hogan for the Title. His push and career were killed a week later when Hogan jobbed him at Road Wild and squashed his push faster than Hogan had killed Sting's from Starrcade in the previous December. This was another reason that WCW ate it in the ratings (i.e. no push was ever consistent). Luger was full of momentum for a full two years and along with Sting was the top babyface in the company and they all seemed to be drawing fine working matches beating up on NWO goons or vice versa. By the time Russo was going to use Luger for the Millionaire's Club/New Blood storyline, Luger was so immovable and stiff-moving in the ring that he was actually that bad to watch.

JBL on the other hand is about as worthless as it gets inside the ring. He says that Luger "couldn't draw a dime." Yes, because JBL was setting attendance records ablaze all the way since he was Justin "Hawk" Bradshaw and was running around hitting dudes with a goddamn cowbell. There was a time when Luger did live up to his namesake. At least he had that when it comes to his in-ring work. JBL just had a big set of man-boobs and horrible match pacing. I wouldn't trust that asp Bischoff any further than I could throw him. It's not wise to trust the words of a man who speaks with forked tongue. Hey, if Luger is Sting's business tag-along, then JBL was Eddy's. They would've never (and shouldn't have) given JBL the strap. Smackdown was already on a downward spiral, and he made sure it was a complete nosedive. Luger's far from perfect but JBL sits atop a glass throne.

 

[G-Money]

^Well the wrestlers know a lot more about the business we do, so we should all stop acting like we know the ratings for the show or who could draw who couldn't. Non of us know any of that information(and just because you see these "reports" telling you, doesn't make them true.)

but JBL>Lex Luger.

 

[debisib]

Kasey, u say luger was one of the top guys in wwf after hogan and warrior but think about it, wrestlemania 9, he had just came out with the narcisist gimmick, and it was a good gimmick but he didnt do too much until later that year when he turned into the all american lex luger and was sent on a bus around the world
yea sure he split thje royal rumble winnings with bret that following yr, but by the time wrestlemania 10 came around he lost to yoko, bret won the title, and lex did pretty much nothing... they WISHED he was one of the bestguys and he was over, but not as over as bret so he didnt get much.his skillws rly arent even very good, his finisher was a forearm.

i mean, at that time, bret, shawn, sid, taker, diesel, razor, there was a buncha guys that meant more than luger, they just pushed him as hard as they r pushing Cena now but now they r taking a diff approach

 

[mysticx0]

i dont think vince ever had plans of using luger for any championships. he was merely the centerpiece for vinces failed WBF (world bodybuilding federation) if anyone remembers that lol. it even had its own show hosted by lex.