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Let me get this straight, If you're going to retire you're gonna lose?

no, I completely see the point you are raising and agree but when you look at the salaries of top earning guys like Flair and Triple H, I wouldn't care if I won or lost. For example Triple H is on $2million a yeah and gets to use the company jet, First class flight tickets, hotel accommodations, and ground transportation paid for every week. Flair gets around half a million dollars a year when he was coming to an end. So from that respect, it's unfair to say they don't compensate them enough.

come dude half a mil.... not even close of to enough...if those numbers are real, then its worse then i expected... come on dude away for 300 days, body always in pain, somewhere down the road you're gonna have a serious injury... and the lifestyles they live... they can't afford with a couple million... think about this... lebron james makes over 20 million in nba salary, HHH = lebron in terms of meaning and he makes 2 million when he works more, more pain and risks being disabled getting in the ring.... and you say 2 mill is enough... what about jbl... he's probably only made 3-4 million in his career...thinks thats enough when he has to pay for his house, living expenses and medical bills down the road... nowhere close to it....

Plain and simple... Wrestling does not take care of its own
 
You are supposed to lose when you are leaving, because in essence you are giving your opponent your spot.
If you leave on good terms, you want to leave the company better than you found it and help them build a new star.
If you leave on bad terms, they will bury you anyway.
Its just business.
 
When a wrestler is retiring, I think they should go out however they want to (within reason, obviously). I mean, if Flair didn't want to retire at WM 24 with the storyline that he'd retire when he lost, then he wouldn't have gone ahead with that storyline. I don't really think McMahon would have refused him anything. I don't think it was such a big problem with it being HBK anyway - it gave Flair what he wanted, which was a great emtional last match. I think it'd be different if he was 'putting someone over', which I don't think is needed on a last match, again, unless the wrestler wants to go out that way.

I think it's different if they're going to another promotion - you're going to a 'rival' and I therefore think the best way to go out is by putting over the person who will take your place. It's only fair.
 
So, why did Trish Stratus not lose?

I don't like the way JBL left. Not that I thought he was great...but for the career he had, I think he deserved a better send off than an "I quit!" because he was PO'd about losing to Rey...again...but then again I guess that plays into his heel character as a sore loser and that's how they figured to let him retire.
 
Just so you know, JBL was not "PO'd" about losing to Rey again. It is a known fact that JBL and Rey Mysterio are good friends and thus wouldn't be PO.
 
Also, I never really understood the whole 'push' thing regarding youngsters when they beat a wrestler in their retirement match. I mean, if they're good enough, why would they need to defeat a wrestler way out of their prime? It seems kind of silly to me, good wrestlers will be pushed and loved/hated due to their talent. If they need to retire a legend to get over, they're not good enough to retire them.
 
I think the reasoning behind the short JBL match at Mania had alot to do with his back giving out again. Perhaps he just didnt feel like he could put in a match he wanted to. Besides everyone knows JBL did not have to wrestle he wrestled because he loved the business, he really is a self made man.
 
For anyone to win in his last match is just selfish and not giving back to the business that made him a star. Wrestlers come and go but the business will always be there. When you put in your two weeks notice at a job, they usually begin making plans to fill your position. It's the same case here. You lose when you go out as a sign of giving your position to someone else. JBL lost to Mysterio the last time he retired briefly, so obviously JBL wants Mysterio over. Winning your last match is like asking your employer not to replace you when you leave. It's selfish, arrogant, and downright ignorant for the company. The company is always greater and more important than the individual.
 
The biggest name to refuse to lose his last match that I can think of is Hogan. He refused to put Michaels or Orton over. That kind of got me because that would have been another notch in the legend killer's belt.

Hogan... Jobbing to the Ratings Killer?

SMH what has this come down to..
 

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