Lawler!!!

[LoudClearVoice]

It's obvious what's going to happen here.

Lawler will be about to pin the Miz for the belt and Michael Cole will come in and hit him resulting in a DQ or allowing Miz to get the win by a distraction pin.

This will set up Lawler vs. Cole at Wrestlemania with the anonymous GM as guest ref.

I'd like Lawler to win the belt and then lose it on RAW but there is 0% chance of that happening.

 

[Kidd]

I've had time to sleep on it and I still hate this idea.

Lawler had no business in this match to begin with, IMO.

As I said before, if they wanna set up a match between Cole/Riley and Lawler, there are other ways to go about it.

 

[Olan]

I like Lawler, always have. He was a great wrestler and terrific on the mic. But with all the young guys in need of a push I can't help but think this is being wasted on Lawler

 

[bablooRKO619]

What if this is a way of returning a heel Game???
Just before PPV Lawler gets attacked. HHH returns telling he is the real king and wins WWE title at EC.
Sheamus wins the Chamber and they go at it at Mania.
Looks like a long shot and an old routine return. Still could this happen?

 

[bablooRKO619]

What if this is a way of returning a heel Game???
Just before PPV Lawler gets attacked. HHH returns telling he is the real king and wins WWE title at EC.
Sheamus wins the Chamber and they go at it at Mania.
Looks like a long shot and an old routine return. Still could this happen?

 

[BJM0703]

Lawler is old news and is not in shape to be fighting in the ring. I might skip the Chamber PPV because the card already looks crappy. Plus the Chamber PPV already is too predictable. I mean it's obvious Lawler is not winning the WWE Title and Cena is winning the Chamber match to fight Miz for the WWE Title at Wrestlemania 27.

 

[Tech N9ne]

My thoughts on it are simple, just as the story line is.

The idea is to keep the title on Miz until Wrestlemania.

Also, to keep building on Lawler and Cole. That is where the story is and where it will continue to go. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole get involved again at Elimination Chamber, costing Lawler the match.

What would that do? Assure Miz to be The WWE Champion going into Wrestlemania, and also create more bad blood with Lawler and Cole, continuing that "feud".

 

[terrylee]

Just because he deserves it doesn't mean he should get it.

The only two pros I take out of it is that, yes, it builds up to a Lawler v. Cole match at 'Mania, and the second is that we don't have to see another Orton v. Miz match.

 

[Trivia247]

The Miz has been displayed as a Weak champion, Im sorry but you are not going to see Miz established as anything but a snarky Heel who can't get a clean win to defend his title. He can't even get over on Lawler clean without back attacking him and hitting his finisher on the floor.

The only time Miz looked at all like a solid legit heel semi main eventer, was back when he was going for Money in the bank and he systematically took out R Truth.


Im sorry if it besmirches Poor Miz's character, but personally Jerry Lawler has done alot in the WWE, Some of you youngins might not remember but I remember his two year long feud with Bret Hart and the Hart Family, from commentary as well as in the Ring. I remember his feud with ECW to the point of Managing RVD in 97 and even going to ECW too face Tommy Dreamer. Most of which he was on the recieving end of punishment for the entertainment of the fans. He is a former AWA, MCW, USWA, WCCW World Champion... He was world renown due to his publicity feud with Andy Koffman on Letterman. Im sorry limited or not, Old or not, He has done alot for the WWE, and despite what people think of the McMahons They do take care of those whom are loyal to them, Lawler is deserving of his Wrestlemania moment, and is deserving of a World Championship....at least Once.

 

[TheRockSays:]

What if the MIZ actually loses to Jerry.....Hear me out. If the Miz loses to the king...the king finally gets what he has always deserved....The WWE championship....he has 3 weeks to lose the title back to the Miz on any Monday Night Raw...The Miz will want his rematch clause say....the following night after the ppv....where he will win in some dirty fashion to keep his persona alive and well, while still making the King look good....Does that seem like a possibility to anyone?

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

What if the MIZ actually loses to Jerry.....Hear me out. If the Miz loses to the king...the king finally gets what he has always deserved....The WWE championship....he has 3 weeks to lose the title back to the Miz on any Monday Night Raw...The Miz will want his rematch clause say....the following night after the ppv....where he will win in some dirty fashion to keep his persona alive and well, while still making the King look good....Does that seem like a possibility to anyone?

In the crazy world of WWE, I could see it happening and to be honest and like I've said in my previous posts on this topic, Vince McMahon has made far more questionable booking decisions. At the risk of repeating myself, which I am willing to take the responsibility for doing, these three title changes are a HUGE reason why Jerry Lawler's title win would not be as big of a deal as most people here are making it out to be and while maybe in some ways I wonder why it should happen, it wouldn't bother me because it is no worse than these following booking decisions:

1. Vince beating Triple H for the World Title: This gem was not needed, I don't care how much "story sense" it made. It was a ridiculous booking decision where Vince held the title for a total of like a week and stripped himself of it, only to have Triple H win it back in the Six Pack Challenge a few weeks ago, what was the point, really? Yeah, I know Austin and Triple H were brewing a feud between one another, but it was unneeded just the same.

2. Vince becoming ECW Champion: Again, maybe it's not the prestige of the WWE Title that we are talking about here, but still, was it really all that necessary? I think Umaga would have benefited far more from beating Bobby Lashley for the strap than McMahon would have. I needn't say more.

3. Miz losing the US Title to Bret Hart: Well the Miz is certainly no stranger to dropping gold to older talent, that much is for sure. While it might seem ironic that as a Bret Hart fan I am questioning a booking move involving The Hitman, but let's keep this in perspective, and before anyone says anything else, yes I know the US Title is not the WWE title. But hell the US Title is still a TITLE and back when I was a youngin watching wrestling it had a very important kayfabe role, like the Intercontinental Championship it was a stepping stone to the top of the NWA promotion. And even for wrestlers that never became World Champions it was such an intriguing division. Go back and watch matches with Magnum TA and Tully Blanchard and you'll see what I am talking about. I also want to mention Barry Windham as another fine example of how exciting the US Title division was (although he would be NWA World Champion eventually). Anyway, and with all my fandom for Bret still intact, giving Bret air time to win the US Title was unneeded, for those who want to use the justification that it was a redemption for Montreal, well what was the point of WrestleMania XXVI and the match with Vince McMahon then? I say that because I have heard people defend the whole "feel good" moment of giving Bret another title being necessary for his closure. Sorry but I call bull on that one.

Plus, at this point in their careers, Jerry Lawler is a lot more capable in the ring than Bret, no offense to Bret, but with his health problems being what they are, there was no point in such a booking move.

Basically, there are a lot of ways they can do this and still have the Miz be Champion again, have him lose it at Elimination Chamber and either win it back the next night at RAW or a couple weeks later. That way he gets it back in time for Mania and for those that are fans of Jerry Lawler can say he was WWE Champion for at least some short period of time. Hell, the guy's been in WWF/E for almost 20 years and he's never had a chance to hold a single title there. To be honest with the way titles changes are booked to happen to quickly and with the number of PPV events the company has to produce, this sort of situation is no surprise to have occur, I personally don't see the harm. While it's not a booking decision I would make to have as a match in the first place, it's not something I can say would bother me and by comparison to the three title matches that I just mentioned, it really would not be any worse at all. Period.

 

[bratski2192]

I think Jerry Lawler should be at least given a chance. I think him headlining WM against the WWE champ would work alright if The Miz somehow walked out retaining the title from the Elimination Chamber. Itd be okay I guess if he faced John Cena, but some would think thats a no-brainer cuz of Cenas rep for beating others bigger & more threatening to the title. O well.

 

[multiverseman.com]

Some people are complaining about JL's TV time, but I think it's great.

WWE is in a position where they're trying open to new things. New things don't always mean 'young'. The youth movement is great, but the Lawler/Miz angle is classic drama. The humble old lion who always played the background, even in his heyday, coming back one more time to take on the arrogant upstart villain because he's the only one who can.

Cole: Aren't you afraid?

King: I've dreamt of this my whole life. Why would I be afraid?

One of the best exchanges in RAW history.

 

[Scuba 06]

Are you kidding ? Who the hell wants to spend fifty something dollars to watch a 61 year old announcer wrestle a crappy talent who cant even carry his ass. They alraedy fought in a bad ladder match and now you want them to fight in a regualar match where they actually have to put some effort to make it good. I will tell you right now i am no fan of miz as champ, but damn if you want the naysayers to stop whining, dont you think you would book this guy to look atleast a little strong. I mean has a hard enough time putting on a good performance, the least wwe could do is give him some clean credible wins to solidify himself and be taken more seriously, especially if you want to headline your biggest show against the biggest name in the biz. But no instead since you handed him the title without any credible wins, he looks like cant beat anybody, so they book him just as such. Now they have an oppurtunity to fix with his reign and you book him against a semi-retired guy, and then you wonder why most of us cant take miz seriously. An easy ride to mania just to get a squash match against cena.

 

[AlwaysHasBeen]

The problem is Jerry Lawler is not a great wrestler anymore and the pop he gets when in the ring are ultimately those old-timer appreciation pops, especially with the young fans who do not really know of Lawler's deep wrestling roots, which I don't think is enough of a reason to push him into a #1 contender spot. Growing up in the 90s, my most vivid in-ring memories of Lawler was his feud with Bret Hart (Kiss My Foot match, Survivor Series, etc) and Bret definitely made the feud and the matches more entertaining than had someone else been pitted against Lawler...Lawler being a heel also made it more entertaining as he draws heat reallllll good- but now he's just a do-gooder in the PG era, and it's just plain cheesy how they are depreciating the value of the WWE title even more by having Miz's first feud out of his title run one against a commentator. I'm all up for WWE trying new things, but use wrestlers on your roster! And what in the world is Lawler going to use as a finisher? The piledriver being banned...is he going to take Miz out with his second-rope fist-drop??...the anticipation!....

 

[TREE24K]

I agree with Mulitverseman but I'll take it one step further. I would LOVE to see Jerry the King win the belt not at the Elimination Chamber PPV but rather Wrestlemania. I'm not a Jerry mark by any means. I just think it would be cool to see old Jerry the King win the belt at Mania. I don't even care if he drops it the next night on Raw or (if the is a M.I.t.B. match winner) have that person win. Of course I'd also like to see Punk going over Cena for the title if that were to be booked. But all that's out of the window if they sign Sting.

 

[deadelviX]

Are you kidding ? Who the hell wants to spend fifty something dollars to watch a 61 year old announcer wrestle a crappy talent who cant even carry his ass.

me.

...the least wwe could do is give him some clean credible wins to solidify himself and be taken more seriously, especially if you want to headline your biggest show against the biggest name in the biz. But no instead since you handed him the title without any credible wins, he looks like cant beat anybody, so they book him just as such. Now they have an oppurtunity to fix with his reign and you book him against a semi-retired guy, and then you wonder why most of us cant take miz seriously. An easy ride to mania just to get a squash match against cena.

the above quote is my problem with internet wrestling fans. you're no expert. it's prowrestling. two dudes fighting over something. who cares how old one of them is. isn't there enough youth in the WWE right now?? who was it that recently said that the locker room is 95% green and 5% veteran. there is plenty of room for Jerry Lawler to wrestle at wrestlemania. i'm sorry... but he deserves it more than alot of the other guys! Kofi Kingston is good... but he has plenty of time to become GREAT. when he gets to the point of Jerry Lawler who has headlined events and sold out buildings.. then he can take the place of a veteran on a wrestlemania card.

my point is if someone gets bumped for a Lawler match at a PPV, i won't think twice about it.

prowrestling is not a formula. every single athlete has gotten to the top in a totally different way. didn't Randy Orton make a name for himself by beating legends? people on this board seem to think that John Morrison should be given the title and have a run as champion. i don't. John Morrison gets a good pop, but he couldn't draw flies if he were a pile of shit. he hasn't found his thing yet. i think he WILL...but not yet. Miz...? it came easy to. he was able to make people hate him very fast. he has a natural talent for it because he's been honing it his whole life. it doesn't matter in the slightest if he has a dozen "credible wins" because the wrestling audience is full of people that know that wrestling is fake. nobody is there to bet on wrestling. bad guys don't NEED credible wins. if they cheat every single time... people will hate them more. and every time it happens.. he'll get hated EVEN MORE... and MORE..and MORE! THAN... the hero that comes out and hits the ring finally takes him down and pins him and takes his title... will get an instant boom of popularity.

...and now you have 2 stars on your hands.

booking prowrestling is a game of chess. you have to know where you're going. if you play every game with the same method... you're eventually gonna get burned.

 

[DB tap or Snap]

i love Lawler but i mean come on this makes zero sense.... Daniel Bryan the United States champion and the best wrestler wwe has is currently feuding with The Bellas?? and instead your ppv is gonna be main evented by Lawler vs Miz for the title....hell Daniel Bryan beat the Miz for the us title and multiple times after that... u dont have to have db win the raw rumble but at least have him in the elimination chamber instead of a guy like R Truth who is useless doesnt make sense

 

[Scuba 06]

me.



the above quote is my problem with internet wrestling fans. you're no expert. it's prowrestling. two dudes fighting over something. who cares how old one of them is. isn't there enough youth in the WWE right now?? who was it that recently said that the locker room is 95% green and 5% veteran. there is plenty of room for Jerry Lawler to wrestle at wrestlemania. i'm sorry... but he deserves it more than alot of the other guys! Kofi Kingston is good... but he has plenty of time to become GREAT. when he gets to the point of Jerry Lawler who has headlined events and sold out buildings.. then he can take the place of a veteran on a wrestlemania card.

my point is if someone gets bumped for a Lawler match at a PPV, i won't think twice about it.

prowrestling is not a formula. every single athlete has gotten to the top in a totally different way. didn't Randy Orton make a name for himself by beating legends? people on this board seem to think that John Morrison should be given the title and have a run as champion. i don't. John Morrison gets a good pop, but he couldn't draw flies if he were a pile of shit. he hasn't found his thing yet. i think he WILL...but not yet. Miz...? it came easy to. he was able to make people hate him very fast. he has a natural talent for it because he's been honing it his whole life. it doesn't matter in the slightest if he has a dozen "credible wins" because the wrestling audience is full of people that know that wrestling is fake. nobody is there to bet on wrestling. bad guys don't NEED credible wins. if they cheat every single time... people will hate them more. and every time it happens.. he'll get hated EVEN MORE... and MORE..and MORE! THAN... the hero that comes out and hits the ring finally takes him down and pins him and takes his title... will get an instant boom of popularity.

...and now you have 2 stars on your hands.

booking prowrestling is a game of chess. you have to know where you're going. if you play every game with the same method... you're eventually gonna get burned.

Please. Please show me how Miz draws ? Last I checked raw ratings have been virtually the same as before he won the strap. Okay how about PPV buyrates ? His first big title defense at TLC. The numbers are lower than they were last year when cena fought an un-established star in Sheamus. If you think Miz draws heat you must be watching a different show than me. Vickie Guerrero draws real heat. Miz is supposed to be the top heel in the company and yet he cant gather even close to the reaction vickie does. Even Punk who really should be carrying the belt is way hotter and more over than miz has been throughout his title run. Im sorry but nobody cares about guys like miz for that reason that they werent built to be big stars, cheap heat isnt going to get you a 1 million+ buys at wrestlemania. If you wanna build stars on the level of Orton or Edge, who were much bigger heels than miz could ever dream of, you got to make them look CREDIBLE.

 

[deadelviX]

cheap heat isnt going to get you a 1 million+ buys at wrestlemania.

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Sgt. Slaughter
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that should be all the response i need... but if i don't make it more than those 2 words...i will get accused of a spam post for some stupid reason.

Wrestlemania 7 was built on Sgt Slaughter gaining cheap heat. you're still not getting it. heat is heat. hate is hate. this isn't MMA. the win/loss record doesn't really matter...nor does it matter how the game is played. it's storytelling.

as far as Vicky getting more heat than Miz... of course she does. because you never really see her "get what's coming to her." Occasionally you'll see her take a small bump.. and alot of mean remarks...but there's never any resolution to her heat. so it just keeps building. and she's got a really harsh voice.

Miz draws. and when i say that...i mean he draws heat... he draws attention to him. leave ratings out of this. since when have television ratings been the business of ANYBODY but TV executives and sponsors?!?!? they're none of our god damned business. i'll be honest...i watch more closely when he's on. i am a fan of his meaning that i enjoy hating him. i am excited to see him get his ass kicked. YOU personally may not like to watch him.. and i am aware that you're not alone. but you have to come to terms with the fact that he has his fans.

and just to mention something on the topic. Lawler is still very relevant. he may not jump around the ring like the younger guys... but if you watch some of his older matches... he NEVER DID. his style hasn't changed. that's fine. it worked then and it can work now. if the younger guys want to make it to the top... then they need to know how to work with a wrestler of ANY style. that's why there will never be another HBK...because he worked with 2 different generations and styles of wrestlers and gained an experience that none of the new guys will ever gain. certainly not morrison.

 

[Scuba 06]

I think it's pretty obvious that slaughter didnt sell those tickets. The guy that sold those tickets was the guy who was star of that show every year from nearly a decade, the biggest draw in the history of the franchise. They could have put him up against anyone on WM and it would sell.

That's the problem the Miz dosent seem to sell. As much as you keep making a big deal about heat, in reality its like you said earlier it's fake, and we know it's fake, so why are we there ? to be entertained, ofcourse. The fact is Miz isnt marveling anyone with his performances, and its not a matter him being a good wrestler, its that yes people want to see him get ass kicked but they also want it to be entertaining. Miz just does not seem to deliver in bringing forth solid performances that keep you coming back to see him. Which is evident in the ratings and buyrates, how can you act like the data derived from this is meaningless ? Thats all they focus on in regards to mapping out a sense of direction. So what im saying if you dont deliver entertaining performances, than all you have is your name value, what value does his name carry ? not much apperantly. Maybe you love miz, but a lot of people dont for a reason, because he has never done anything to make us want to watch, and saying lame catchphrases dont make you a great promo cutter, who can get people interested in what you have to say. So in the end people dont take you seriously, and they pass up the oppurtunity to see you perform. In effect you arent selling tickets, and thats all that matters to the higher-ups

And im not a big fan of morrison so i dont know why you keep bringing him up.