Lashley: New ECW World Champion

[xxmonsterpimpxx]

wtf are you talking about. you say Lashley only has 3 moves stfu!!!!! CM PUNK, ALL HE DOES IS CLOTHESLINES AND FLYING CLOTHESLINES AND THEN THE ANACONDA VICE


AND ANOTHER THING IS THAT HOW THE HELL DO YOU NEED TO BE EXTREME IN ECW OH BECUZ THE NAME SAIS EXTREME? OH THATS GREAT YOU HAVE TO BE EXTREME JUST BECUZ ITS "EXTREME CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING"


one more thing is that all these crackheads go around saying Lashley doesnt deserve to be in that match or win the title. Well crack heads if you saw ECW Paul Heyman didn't have a choice to wether Lashley could be in the match. Lashley signed the papers that legally made him a part of the match

 

[Code Red]

wtf are you talking about. you say Lashley only has 3 moves stfu!!!!! CM PUNK, ALL HE DOES IS CLOTHESLINES AND FLYING CLOTHESLINES AND THEN THE ANACONDA VICE

Apparently you have never seen CM Punk's work in ROH and TNA. I suggest you check it out. These were the matches that showed you what he is truly capable of. Like so many others before him, CM Punk had to alter (read: water down) his style in order to wrestle in the WWE. As someone pointed out, the fact that he is willing to compromise his style to wrestle here does make him a sellout, but oh well - hopefully he sees the error of his ways and goes back to ROH or TNA at some point. His finisher in the past was the Pepsi Plunge, a top rope Pedigree. You'll never see it, because that's a more lethal version of Vinnie's son-in-law's finisher.

Going back to Lashley: His match with Big Show proved that he doesn't deserve to be Champion. Sure, he's as strong as an ox, but he's as smart as one too. Despite being the smaller guy for a change, we saw absolutely nothing new from Lashley in the entire match. He's the same boring wrestler with a repertoire so limited that makes John Cena look like Chris Benoit. I hope Vinnie has the guts to bring ECW back home to either Philly or NYC, preferably in a slightly smaller venue. I would like to hear Lashley get the reaction he deserves. He's like a less talented Batista, and that is really saying something.

 

[Jonny B]

Apparently you have never seen CM Punk's work in ROH and TNA. I suggest you check it out. These were the matches that showed you what he is truly capable of. Like so many others before him, CM Punk had to alter (read: water down) his style in order to wrestle in the WWE. As someone pointed out, the fact that he is willing to compromise his style to wrestle here does make him a sellout, but oh well - hopefully he sees the error of his ways and goes back to ROH or TNA at some point. His finisher in the past was the Pepsi Plunge, a top rope Pedigree. You'll never see it, because that's a more lethal version of Vinnie's son-in-law's finisher.

You obviously need to look into the actual meaning of sellout, if its something he never said he would do then yes he's a sellout, but if he isnt compromising his own principals to wrestle a restricted move set then there is no way in hell he is a sellout.

Going back to Lashley: His match with Big Show proved that he doesn't deserve to be Champion. Sure, he's as strong as an ox, but he's as smart as one too. Despite being the smaller guy for a change, we saw absolutely nothing new from Lashley in the entire match. He's the same boring wrestler with a repertoire so limited that makes John Cena look like Chris Benoit. I hope Vinnie has the guts to bring ECW back home to either Philly or NYC, preferably in a slightly smaller venue. I would like to hear Lashley get the reaction he deserves. He's like a less talented Batista, and that is really saying something.

You blew your own arguement out of the water, with what you said about Punk. Lashley like all the other big men are FORCED to limit their move sets, so instead of hating on Lashley, why dont you people blame the WWE for making them look like Three move machines?

 

[Brilliance In Supremacy]

I really liked Lashley up until I saw that he's way too "WWE" to be in an "ECW" ring. He's been acknowledged by Chris Beniot and Lance Storm as a very talented worker who has a vast array of tools. What I've seen from him in ECW thus far is about a hundred punches, a few spears, and some botched power moves. While on SD, I saw Lashley flying around the ring much better than any beefed up guy I've seen before. Plus, he's capable of doing many good technical moves (I've seen him do almost a dozen different suplexes).

Unfortunately, Lashley's a very "Booker" like wrestler. What that means is that he's a product of the opponent he has in front of him. Put Lashley against RVD or CM Punk and we will see a fantastic match. Put him in front of the Big Show and it's pretty damn lame. Lashley needs to step up now that he's in ECW.

 

[Jewlz]

I still don't like the fact of Lashley being champ but that was pretty impressive slamming Show twice, the 2'nd time he even held him up for a second or two. i guess Vince felt it had to be a big powerful wrestler to beat Show since he was supposed to be unstoppable, it's a shame to see Show leave beaten but i guess they wanted to try & put Lashley over by beating him. i think Show shoulda went physco & got DQ'd then said fuck this & left that way it wouldn't look like he left cause he got beat.

I know Lashley has some "real" wrestling talent cause he won championships in the Army i hope they let him use at least some of his wrestling skills, hell even Batista's starting to use new moves & when the hell did spearing become so popular for these two guys.

 

[Code Red]

You obviously need to look into the actual meaning of sellout, if its something he never said he would do then yes he's a sellout, but if he isnt compromising his own principals to wrestle a restricted move set then there is no way in hell he is a sellout.



You blew your own arguement out of the water, with what you said about Punk. Lashley like all the other big men are FORCED to limit their move sets, so instead of hating on Lashley, why dont you people blame the WWE for making them look like Three move machines?

On CM Punk: His repertoire is limited compared to what he used to do, but he still can put on a better match than many WWE wrestlers, including all current World Champions.

On Bobby Lashley: There are limits on several larger wrestlers, but there's a few that are surprisingly skilled as well (among them Taker and Show, both being above average for their size). The more I see of Lashley in the ring with his limitations and botches, the more I see that he is not fit to carry a brand on his shoulders. The fact is that it's way too early for him and while he does have the look that Vince McMahon likes, he still needs a lot more work before he can become a convincing World Champion.

 

[Dark_Blue]

The backlash on Lashley & Show were that ECW fans dont see them as "extreme". The man's a good wrestler but he got the strap in less than a month I think. wtf? Hopefully he can do something GREAT soon cuz ECW now is in his shoulders.

 

[NinjaJenn]

All I know is, it's too bad they didn't replace Sabu with Tazz. He was the only guy who could've saved it at that point. The fans were upset to begin with, so Lashley never stood a chance with the die-hard crowd. He has limited moves and is such a Goldberg figure but without the presence, and if he can do more than the moveset he's shown, he sure didn't prove it at December to Dismember. He's not extreme, but the show isn't either, anymore. And once Vinnie Mac had decided not to give the belt to RVD, who was left? Dreamer's too injured and never wanted a belt, anyway. Sabu was out. Test is nothing without Show and Heyman, CM Punk is too new and Hardcore Holly is a decent midcarder. And here's something fairly new on Lashley: He looks like Wayne Brady on steroids?

 

[Jewlz]

And here's something fairly new on Lashley: He looks like Wayne Brady on steroids?

Funny shit never noticed till i read this, i think Wayne Brady has a deeper voice too.

Hopefully now that Lashley is ECW they'll let him off his leash more cause i have no doubt that he can actually wrestle i just don't think he should be champ. when he first showed up on Smackdown he was doing more different style suplexes & other moves then they had him cut back & start spearing people to finish, anybody can do a damn spear. of course since the're only doing ECW/Smackdown shows together & no just ECW shows he already has the crowd.

I'd like to see him & RVD go at it to see his limitations, RVD can kick his head off & it'll let Lashley show whether or not he's gonna do actual wrestling moves or just be a big powerhouse.

 

[mabuza]

At leats I'm not the only one who thinks that Bobby looks like Wayne Brady.Anyway,I'm starting to realise that Lahley cant wrestle.He pops off alot of powermoves,but that shit got Batista booed when he was in Hamerstien Ballroom.Bobby is yet to actually wrestle in legit ECW territory,in front of real ECW fans(if the even bother coming to watch it).He's a Lesnar wannabe,but unlike Brock,he doesnt have the same athleticism that Brock had.RVD is gonna have to carry Lashley in any extreme rules matches the may have.I truly see Bobby having to be carried through all of his matches a s Champ

 

[bman420]

I've said this in previous posts, ECW or WWECW should be called WRCW. WWE Reject Championship Wrestling.

 

[RVDgurl]

I can't take it anymore! Bobby Lashley seems like he'd be a really nice person, but his "gimmick" is so boring! I would rather watch paint dry than watch this man wrestle. Can someone please explain why this guy is slated to hold the title until Wrestlemania? He can't cut a promo to save his ass and he is still learning how to work in the ring. This is just another move that Vince has made to intentionally sabotage the success of ECW. Only a McMahon would waste a ton of money on projected failure.

 

[justinsayne]

Ok I was think today and whaat if they would've sent Kane over to ECW instead of Lashley, to me that would have been the better decision, to me Kane looks like he would fit with ECW, and if they would have sent him, and followed the same path as they have with Lashley then Kane would have won the ECW title, and elevated that championship unlike Lashley, I can buy Lashley as a U.S. or I.C. title holder but thats about it, he's just not good enough to carry a show yet

 

[mabuza]

Ok I was think today and whaat if they would've sent Kane over to ECW instead of Lashley, to me that would have been the better decision, to me Kane looks like he would fit with ECW, and if they would have sent him, and followed the same path as they have with Lashley then Kane would have won the ECW title, and elevated that championship unlike Lashley, I can buy Lashley as a U.S. or I.C. title holder but thats about it, he's just not good enough to carry a show yet

I totally agree.Of all the WWE superstars to have had guest appearances on ECW during the early summer of 2006,Kane not only fit in,but got the most decent pop.I thought he was going to make the jump when he left RAW,but was disappointed when he got relegated to SD! Guys like Finlay,Beniot,Kane,Shelton Benjamin etc. all could have been better ECW champs than Lashley.Bobby should have stayed on SD! and have only been pushed in 2007 against Batista(maybe @ WM23)

 

[NinjaJenn]

As far as Lashley staying on SD!, I feel kinda bad for him, since he left to go work with Heyman and then Heyman got fired.

 

[shadw]

Bobby Lyshely sux .. as decmber to dismember ppv ....

in the re-match for world title bobby lyshely cant pick up big show !! lool
he tried like 3 times and caaant make it as far as brock lesnar and kurt angle did !
and im sick and tired of his 4 moves
and he trying to be goldberg and brock lesnar we know what mcmhaon thinks
do remember when he bring fake razor ramon and diesel ! f--- u mcmhaons and all of your damn wrestlers i wish all wcw stars go to tna or bring back wcw please!!
and ecw should go to tna not damn wwe !
and lyshely he a joke of the year !

 

[Suzymbc]

Lashley is so far from extreme that he should be tag team partners with the Great Kahli. He may look physically intimidating, but he can't cut a promo. He tries to sound tough, but he comes across like the guy you could take home to meet your mother! He seems like a nice guy, but not a fit for ECW. At least not the ECW I knew and loved.

 

[ErkBono23]

the ecw that everyone remembers is DEAD..its not around anymore and it wont ever come around again..this ecw is just another extension of wwe called ecw only because it has most of the ecw originals and such..to say lashley is not fit for ecw is not realistic because you are comparing to diff ecw's..the REAL ecw and WWE's ecw...we have to get over the fact that this isnt the same old ecw we loved and new...how this extension is still around i dunno but for some reason it gets the same ratings and sometimes higher ratings then what TNA does

 

[HellBoundPower]

I was very angry when I saw they were giving the title to Lashley. I'm not gonna knock the guy, because he can wrestle (even though he can't show it because he's portrayed as a "BIG MAN"), but he's nowhere near ready to carry a brand. I think they should've gave the title back to RVD, because he was the one that came up with the idea to bring ECW back, and he's the only person who should have the belt. He'll leave if he doesn't get it back.