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Kharma gone for 9 Months?

I do agree with you that an unplanned pregnancy does sound a bit suspicious but there's one piece of logic missing from your argument: Kharma didn't need to be tweaked or altered, she was the best thing going for the WWE right now and there is no need to change that. Now we have two options:

Option 1: Rumour is false, nothing changes.
Option 2: She is indeed pregnant, and is gone until next year, providing she's not released.

Out of those, as unlikely as it is, I'd have to say Option 2. I just don't believe that the rumour is false, as no Superstar or Diva has refuted the rumour, much less acknowledged it. I sincerely hope it's Option 1, otherwise, WWE just lost it's most precious resource.
 
Well, whatever the reason, what a shame (from a fan standpoint). She had great hype and momentum going for her and I for one was excited to see what might happen. Of course now she has lost some credibility (in my eyes), but it is what it is.
 
If she is pregnant maybe Cole will do his best Al Michaels impression and announce on the next Raw that, "Kharma is out 9-11 months with a uterus."

Who knows what this story is all about? It sucks for the fans if she is going to be gone for awhile but I am not going to pretend to be an OB-GYN (or a woman or a woman OB-GYN) and speculate on the cause of her absence.

"She's definitely pregnant I heard crying coming out of her vagina on Raw the other night." -Stu Pitt
 
When they don't explain the reason for an absence, it often has to do with substance abuse, no? Did WWE actually announce that she was going to be out of action? As much as we speculate, we never really know what's going on behind the scenes.

Still, though, it might be a pregnancy. After all, to have her unexpectedly break down and cry in front of thousands of people sure sounds like the ol' hormones are out of whack, huh?:blush:
 
Where did all this pregnancy nonsense start? Just cause its 9 months? Usually after someone gives birth, they take at minimum 3 months maternity leave to be with their child and make the transition easier. I do not think for one second that shes pregnant, and 9 months could just be said backstage as a general time frame until they actually figure out what they want to do with Kharma. In my opinion, I don't even think shes going to be written off TV, perhaps anonymous Raw GM or a manager for K2
 
Ok, I want to first say, doesn't anyone else find it mind numbingly insane to see some of these people insult Kia because she's big? I'm mostly going on about the people that are posting "some one put their penis in that" and crap like that. Grow up.

If she is indeed pregnant, I'm very happy for her. I'm a father of three, and it does take at a minimum a month to find out you are pregnant, and some times more. With my first child, my wife didn't know she was pregnant until she was three months in.

I can actually see the way they wrote her off TV working in the long run. She has a "psychotic break" because of not being accepted. And she goes into hiding. Nearing the 9 month mark, when she is due to come back, but hasn't actually come back, they can start running segments in the back where they find random divas destroyed in their locker room.

Its a shame that this happened now, but I won't condemn her for becoming pregnant. Its a beautiful thing, and if she is, I wish her nothing but the best during this time.
 
I have had the chance to meet and spend a little time with Kia and she is a really great person... If she is pregnant, I'm happy for her... I just hope she can come back as hot with the crowd as she is now and still have time to set up a match with Beth maybe in time for Mania...

If it is anything other than that, WWE is really stupid to write her off of TV... I was really wating to see her dominate...

I hope this is all just a rumor...
 
Failed drug tests are 30 day suspensions, not 9 month suspensions. Option 2 is not possible.

JJ15776, dude i know how long the suspensions are, but i mentioned failed drug test because she could have a drug dependancy problem ( like taking cocaine or pain pills) and have to go to rehab. Bet you didn't think about that?
 
Ok first, this thing is 9 pages long and I have other things to do, so I made it to page 3 and that's good enough.

This "save her for Mania" speculation makes absolutely no sense, she has already been signed to WWE for months, they could've used her at this year's Mania, why would they wait so long to debut her, to a huge crowd reaction, only to hold her off again for 9 months and save her for the next Mania. Pretty far fetched theory.

The pregnancy thing makes perfect sense, it's just terrible timing for her character. Though I guess it would explain her sudden mood swings haha.

Secondly, you are completely wrong on both scenarios. Debuting her BEFORE Mania to give her a Mania match was a bigger risk than giving Sheamus the WWE title for the first time two years ago. Debuting her AFTER Mania however gave them time to see if she was going to get a certain reaction and to see where she would fit in. Taking her off TV now to hold her out until Mania just means that when she comes back, it'll be a big return. And because the talented Divas who can match Kharma are limited, that's why this scenario makes the most sense.

The pregnancy scenario, that you bring up, is complete obscurity. An average pregnancy is assumed to be 9 months. That being said, early and late born babies isn't exactly an impossible thing. Not only that but for the "they would've known sooner" thought plan is even more obscene because a lot of first time mothers don't even risk trying to go to work while they're pregnant... let alone go out to the ring and slam people onto the mat.


If anything, I'm just going to guess that Vince put out the 9 months to give himself and writers more time to either find divas in their roster that can keep up with Kharma or to give them time to think of what to do with her. 9 months is probably just Vince's way of saying "Ok, I want to do something big with her, but I don't want to rush it... she could lose the momentum. So instead, let's take her off TV for a little bit... say nine months, and think of something to do with her so she's not wasted."

Oh boy, that seems like an excellent idea doesn't it?
 
I hate that everyone is going the pregnancy route until it is absolutely confirmed.

Why? Say she's a month pregnant now or even six weeks. She has another 30 left. She isn't going to return to the ring a month after giving birth. She'd take at least three off to get herself into condition to wrestle. She's already at somewhat of a disadvantage as a diva because of her size. She isn't going to be in wrestling condition a month after giving birth.

Besides, a new born baby NEEDS a parent (usually the mother) to be on hand 24/7 early on in their lifetime. Do you really believe that anyone can live the WWE lifestyle immediately after birth? For example, look at Stephanie McMahon. Every time she's given birth she's been working from home for up to three to six months. She's not even an in ring talent! She works backstage where a baby station could and would be made up for her quite easily.

I do not believe Kia is pregnant whatsoever. Until they announce otherwise I wont believe any report that states so.
 
the report does say she is out for OVER nine months, it doesn't say she out for exacly nine months, just nine months minimum

usally when a rumour has big as this starts doing the rounds then usally the superstar in question is preety quick to deny that rumour for example The Rock's "Death" that started circulating a few weeks ago, within a couple of hours of that rumour going Dwayne was on twitter saying "don't worry The Rock is not dead" and I'm following everybody there is to follow on twitter and I've seen no denials from anybody about Kharma's pregnency and if there is no denials in the next 36 hours then it looks like she is deffinitly pregnent
 
If I was Vinnie Mac I would be seriously PO'd at her right now. He gives her this big build up to her debut and a month into he has to write her off, not because of an unforseen injury but by a pregnacy. I would not only be angry but disappointed in her.

If she is pregnant then congrats to her.
 
How dumb would she have to be to have gotten knocked up?

That said, they can't fire her (at least not right now) even if it's written into her contract. It would look terrible and they'd be setting themselves up for huge battles with women's groups. If it's true, I suspect they intentionally killed her heat with the crying angle.
 
:banghead: Ugh where do I start, for those of you who have never touched a woman or failed 7th grade health let me explain: Women don't usually know they're pregnant till atleast a month in for the most part. In many cases it could be up to two months, and not to pick on her size, but larger women sometimes don't detect pregnancy as early too. Especially if they are physically active, a missed period could mean nothing depending on her cycle so for her to be a good two months pregnant right now is perfectly logical. So if she's two months now...then another 7 months till the child is born..so children 2+7=9 BUT her 9 month leave just started sooo 9-7=2 Leaving 2 months, or around that, for her to care for her new born. Here ends the lesson.

Anyways if she's pregnant now she got pregnant before her big push really materialized I believe ( could be wrong). So shitty timing for her career but I think we should all be happy for her and stop bitching at one and other as if we all know facts, or are waiting for a "reliable" report, not everything is to fool the internet people, sorry folks but we're all just not that important. Have a nice day.
 
Failed drug tests are 30 day suspensions, not 9 month suspensions. Option 2 is not possible.

JJ15776, dude i know how long the suspensions are, but i mentioned failed drug test because she could have a drug dependancy problem ( like taking cocaine or pain pills) and have to go to rehab. Bet you didn't think about that?

Well if that's the case, WWE has a history of firing people with drug dependency issues. They don't write you off TV while you go to rehab. They fire you, and since you're a former employee they pay for your rehab, but you aren't kept on as part of the staff.

If she was found to be snorting coke backstage, she probably would have been fired. Drug related suspension isn't a possibility if she will indeed be gone for 9 months. Unless they are making an exception to their suspension rules because she was caught doing a line of coke off Stephanie's back in the ladies room of an arena or something as ridiculous.

And to those who say she'll get fired because she got pregnant: I'm sure Vince learned his lesson when he fired Dawn Marie and had to settle out of court. You cannot fire a woman for getting pregnant in this country, even if its written into your contract about physical changes, and I'm pretty certain that's why this was settled out of court (from what I can find. Damn non disclosure agreements)
 
There is something nobody thought about. What about the Tornado that hit Joplin Missouri? I don't know if she has family in that area, but man if she has/had that would also explain the 9 months absence. Remember Marcus Con Vor (aka "The Alpha Male" Monty Brown)? He had a family emergency and had to leave WWE.
 
Well if that's the case, WWE has a history of firing people with drug dependency issues. They don't write you off TV while you go to rehab. They fire you, and since you're a former employee they pay for your rehab, but you aren't kept on as part of the staff.

nikvoodoo, they don't fire them if its the first offense they send you to rehab and if they don't want to go, now they will fire them. After three strikes its over even if they wanted to do rehab.
 
And to those who say she'll get fired because she got pregnant: I'm sure Vince learned his lesson when he fired Dawn Marie and had to settle out of court. You cannot fire a woman for getting pregnant in this country, even if its written into your contract about physical changes, and I'm pretty certain that's why this was settled out of court (from what I can find. Damn non disclosure agreements)

... Didn't he fire Candice Michelle after she came back from pregnancy? :shrug:

I'm pretty sure that it was because of gained weight or something. Same excuse they used on Cherry.
 
Looks like it really is pregnancy.

According to PWInsider.com WWE Diva Kharma, real name Kia Stevens, is pregnant, which is why WWE wrote her off TV this past Monday night on Raw. As we originally reported, Kharma was set to be sidelined for 9 months, so it appears as if her being out due to pregnancy makes sense.

Damn, that's bad timing. She had just started and was out the gate with a ton of steam. And now... POOF. Gone. And soon forgotten. 9-12 months from now, when she's ready to return, she'll have to start all over again. At that point she'll have to take care of an infant on the side. Getting herself knocked up just may have killed her career, I'm very saddened to say.
 
Damn man this sucks, I was wondering why they killed Kharma's push last night lol, as soon as she started crying I was like no fucking way and changed the channel.

On another note(and I'll probably get some shit for this), if this is due to pregnancy, im actually pretty dissapointed in Kharma. I mean, if she'd been in the company for a while it'd be okay, but she's new and just walked into pretty much the biggest push I've seen someone get since I dunno, Wade Barrett? Brock Lesnar? Get on the pill dammit or something. Do it for the kids.

Seriously though, if this is true, this would be kind've like if Brock Lesnar had decided to have his honeymoon a month after destroying Spike Dudley, Maven, and Al Snow, he probably would've been fired. Maybe she's actually been pregnant for a while and just realized it, I've heard stranger things.

i did the same exact thing i was like wtf!! is going on here she's just there looking at all of them with a serious face bout to unleash a can of whoop-ass and all of sudden she freakin busts out in tears :lol:

:worship:ALL HAIL THE UNDERTAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :worship:
 
Well if that's the case, WWE has a history of firing people with drug dependency issues. They don't write you off TV while you go to rehab. They fire you, and since you're a former employee they pay for your rehab, but you aren't kept on as part of the staff.

nikvoodoo, they don't fire them if its the first offense they send you to rehab and if they don't want to go, now they will fire them. After three strikes its over even if they wanted to do rehab.

no...they suspend them for 30 days for a first offense. 60 days for the second, and terminate on the 3rd. They do not require them to go to rehab. Rehab has never been a part of the Wellness program suspensions.The offer WWE has to those who elect to go into rehab is different than the Wellness Program Suspensions for currently employed staff. Google search WWE Wellness program, and see for yourself.

My point I was taking with your post was Kia is being written off TV for 9 months. not 30 days, not 60 days, and she wasn't fired. Sorry that wasn't clear. I was trying to point out how unlikely it was to be a drug related issue because of the 9 month tag put on it.

And yes, Candice Michelle was fired after she returned. You can fire a new mother. You can't fire a woman because she's knocked up. It's not legal. And if Vince has worked it into their contracts he can fire because of physical appearance (which makes sense ultimately for the company), then it makes perfect sense what happened to Candice. She looked a little bit like hell when she came back. Not to mention, she was injury prone and kept getting put on the shelf within a month after every return.
 
no...they suspend them for 30 days for a first offense. 60 days for the second, and terminate on the 3rd. They do not require them to go to rehab. Rehab has never been a part of the Wellness program. Google search WWE Wellness program, and see for yourself.
Well, that's true and that's not true.

Rehab is not a mandatory part of the Wellness Policy; entry into rehab is not triggered by a WP failure. HOWEVER, if the WWE feels that a performer needs to enter rehab for whichever reason, they can make the very, very, very strong suggestion to a performer that he enter. They can't fire him/her under the terms of the Wellness Policy for refusing to enter rehab, but they can fire him/her for any number of other reasons, including "just because"; remember, they're independent contractors. They could reduce them to jobbing to Chavo on Superstars.

In practice, this isn't happening much. This isn't the '80s anymore; performers now enter the WWE with specific expectations for what they can and can't put into their bodies. (Which makes me wonder how things will work out for Kharma... ba-da-bump.) Wrestlers are, by-and-large, cleaner then they were even five years ago, and having a drug dependency these days, in the WWE, is a serious detriment to your career prospects. Even casual marijuana use can damage a performer's prospects; look at Brian Kendrick. While his repeated pot usage wasn't the only factor in his dismissal (not by far), it absolutely was a factor. These days, the drugs people are being hit for on WP violations aren't drugs of dependency that require you to go to rehab.

But, the end of the story is, if the WWE wants you to go to rehab (as a performer, office personnel is an entirely different story based on exactly who you work for), you go or you get released.
 
I really don't understand what you're complaining about. WWE peeled a layer of her character away to reveal another dimension that almost everyone wouldn't have thought existed. It's actually genius. She's not a joke now. No one knows what she is. That's brilliant, surely? Does it not make you want to watch Raw next week?

Badass monsters are all well and good. But they're reserved for people who can only do one-dimensional characters. If I had a choice between seeing a badass monster and a badass monster who may break down and cry, I'll take the second, more interesting option, thanks.

As for the supposed nine months off, if it is true, I'd expect it is because of something like a pregnancy. The immediate nature of the situation and specific time frame seems to point it in that direction. It sucks that it had to happen when it was just getting good, but thems be the brakes.

The nine months off, if true, would really help this storyline, unless she springs up 9 months down the road and goes back to destroying people, that way no one will remember her crying. If she cries now, disappears, and comes back, most of the hype she has built up now will be gone anyway so I guess the crying scene really doesnt matter anyway. I guess I was just hoping that Kharma was going to change the landscape of the diva's division by being a strong, badass monster diva, kind of like when a Chyna character. There are already enough crybaby divas who want to fit in, like Layla and all of those. I feel she'll fall right into the role of "just another diva".

Ya know, for the last month all i've heard on other parts of the site and elsewhere is how great the WWE is and how Vince McMahon is "God" and "a genius again." So I decided to tune in last night and those folks were right. Taking a monster heel female wrestler that as Kurt Angle said, could logically feud with men as well, taking ALL of that, packaging it as a heel and....

Having her drop to her knees on TV and cry. Absolutely genius. Sure sure, he kills off all of the heat she has been building and yeah, it shits all over the whole monster thing going on but it is pure genius. That right there ranks up there with Katie Vick, The Hand, The Goon, Gobbedlygooker, T.L. Hopper, Kwang, Knuckleball Schwartz, Kamala, Dusty Rhodes in polka dots, Matt Borne as a clown, Billy & Chuck, Rockabilly and McMahons other genius ideas. Yep, he certainly hasn't lost IT.

Gone for nine months, eh? Yeah, probably pregnancy. It makes sense now. I mean sure, there are hundreds of different ways to write Awsome Khongma off of TV for 9 months but clearly, having her randomly cry her eyes out and beg to be loved was the way to go.

I laughed hard when i read this. Very well put.
 
Called that she is preggers in the Live Discussion. You can't think Vince is too happy about this. Gives her a mega push and then this.

Heard there was a rumor about her and Brodus Clay dating for a while. That would probably look something like this...

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Hopefully she has the kid, gets back in the ring and dominates again. Wonder how they'll put her back into the storyline and maybe acknowledge this happening?
 

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