Kevin Nash Comments On Benoit, Guerrero, Punk & Bryan's Title Runs

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On the main WZ page, there's an article that contains a bit of an interview with Kevin Nash on Grantland.com:

A notable quote in the article is Nash's thought on Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero winning world championships in WWE in 2004 at WrestleMania.

"When Benoit and Guerrero hugged [at the end of WrestleMania XX], that was the end of the business," Nash says. "Has business been the same since that WrestleMania? Has it come close to the Austin era? Has it come close to the nWo or the Hogan era? You put two fucking guys that were great workers that were the same height as the fucking referees, and I'm sorry, man. Are you going to watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick? Even if you're not gay, you will not watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick. That's not the standard in porno films. So you put a 5-foot-7 guy as your world champion."

Nash continues his thoughts on "Internet heroes," CM Punk and Daniel Bryan.

"They are not bigger than life," he says. "I bet they could both walk through airports and not be noticed unless they have a gimmick shirt on and the belt."

Nash also talks about Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Kliq effecting wrestlers pay, his 1995 heel run inspiring the attitude era, working with Tom Cruise and more.

I think Nash is a perfect example of an old veteran that's behind the times and not willing to accept that he's behind the times. Wrestling is evolving, and has been evolving for the past several years, as something where simply being a big guy and/or having a good look isn't enough to make you a star. Nash is someone that was able to get by in his career inside the ring because of his size. It certainly wasn't his ability as I wouldn't take 10 guys physically just like Kevin Nash for a single Benoit or Guerrero. A big reason why Nash was such a big star, aside from his look and his overall very good promo abilities, was the fact that he was a master politician. He got very buddy buddy with the powers that be in whichever organization he found himself working for whether it was WWE, WCW or TNA. Benoit & Guerrero might not have been as tall as Kevin Nash, but they could outwork him inside the ring any day of the week with both arms tied behind their backs. Benoit didn't have much of a personality, but that didn't seem to stop him from being one of the most over guys on the WWE or WCW rosters. He was kind of the exception to the rule as most guys with his generally lackluster personality wouldn't have risen as far as he ultimately did.

As for his comments towards Punk & Bryan, again, I think Nash is someone that's just behind the times. His comments sort of remind me of some of Batista's in the sense that he basically thinks only guys that have a certain look should be pushed to be at the top of the company rather than base it upon whether or not they actually have the ability to warrant being at the top. You don't necessarily have to be "bigger than life" to connect with people and get them to embrace you & show interest in what you're doing. Mick Foley made a highly successful career as someone that was more of a "normal" guy in the sense of his physical appearance and overall personality. Nash's comments towards basically comparing pro wrestling to porn with the whole penis size scenario is embarassingly stupid. I'm wondering if Nash might've been on something when he gave that interview. Wrestlers aren't "actors" in pornographic movies. While being well endowed is certainly a plus in the adult film industry, using it as an analogy on the physical stature of other wrestlers doesn't really fit. What Nash is saying is that he's a star because he's 7 feet tall and that's all he needs to be a star. It's all he needed to be a star 20 years ago. Thankfully, times are and have been changing.

Another thing that Nash seems to conveniently gloss over is the fact that the Attitude Era was a fad that was sustained by the real life conflict between WWE and WCW. Without the Monday Night Wars to fuel the actual feud, the people stopped watching. This was still very much during the time when Rock & Austin were on the roster. He also ignores that his time at the top of WWE is among the lowest points in the company history in terms of talent quality. Nash was WWE Champion for almost a year, but that doesn't mean that he had an especially good run during that year. Also, Nash glosses over just what kind of champion he was during WCW. In the final years of WCW, especially under Vince Russo, they treated fans like they were complete idiots and took everything that helped to make watching wrestling meaningful mean nothing. Titles meant nothing, feuds meant nothing and the wrestlers themselves felt like guys who were there just to fill up some air time with little to no relevance in what they were doing.

It doesn't surprise me to hear Nash trash these guys. Two of them are dead and the other two have more talent in their left testicle than Nash has in his entire broken down, 7 foot frame. Just about the only time Kevin Nash will compliment other wrestlers is when he's working for the same promotion as they are. As long as they're paying his bills, he'll put over any company and just about anyone that works for them. Otherwise, he finds some reason to shoot them down.
 
You know this is quite weird for me to digest. Was Austin a huge guy? He became WWE's greatest saviour and what was he 6'1"? Was he more toned than Benoit or Eddie?

To be honest any superstar who can work with a certain level of charisma can make it in the WWE. I still think workrate is kinda secondary but I don't get his Benoit, Eddie comment. If i rack my brains I remember how people were eating up Eddie's reign. In my eyes he was coming on his own and quite frankly was taken off the strap very early. Benoit...meh never bought into his culmination. But the point is the buikd has to be great to elevate a superstar. Batista's slowburn to WM 21 was damn well played. And I think that is the last road to OVER that I liked. Or can't recall.

Ah Punk's was amazing as well. Last year's summer was one of the most consistently interesting and riveting I have witnessed in some time.


However all this again comes down to believability. If Nash thinks small guys going over makes big guys seem weak to begin with, ye could be, but as Jacky H said, have to change with times. There was a time when someone like Hogan beating Andre seemed unbelievable. Hell anyone beating Andre seemed unbelievable! But the big guys are now being used more haphazardly than ever. You can blame it on overexposure on TV or anything but can't maintain a big guys dominance on screen for years. He has to yield to someone. And why shouldn't he? You have to get the next generation ready for there to be a business.
 
I have to say I agree with big sexy. Most of the wrestlers aren't bigger than the referees.
Even Vince McMahon agrees with Nash. I remember him telling D Bry that he could walk through a grocery store and nobody would know he was a WWE superstar.

Nash's porno example was actually spot on. Like it or not, he has a point. It could be said that he is behind the times but the fact still remains he is on track with his comments. Anybody that disagrees with him isn't old enough to remember the "larger than life" wrestlers. It was a great era.

I get that times have changed and things will never be the same again. That doesn't mean that I have to be happy about or that Kevin Nash is wrong with his comments.
 
I guess by Nash's logic Wrestling also died when Bret Hart,his friend Shawn Micheals,Rey Mysterio,Kurt Angle,Chris Jericho,and other small guys won the Titles killed the business too. This just pisses me off and me a Nash Fan for the most part over the years,minus him burying Goldberg at Starrcade & Fingerpoke Of Doom incident on Nitro.

This coming from someone who couldn't get into a Ring without hurting his quad again when he had just come back that same night. That moment with Benoit & Guerrero is awesome and should never be tarnished by anyone or anything.

As CM Punk said last year OMG Kevin Nash,thought he was dead.
 
Did he just compare wrestlers size with dick size? Seriously Nash? That is the best analogy you could come up with?

But anyway Austin, Bret Hart, Flair and his buddy HBK were all smaller guys. Going by what he said none of them should have been world champs.

Nash is talking out his ass again because he is not happy in the WWE. They should let him go back to TNA where he can tell us how great the humongously tall and larger than life Austin Aries is.

I can't wait to hear what Punk says about this.
 
I just read this and it irritated the hell out of me. Now I'm a fan of Nash, but not a fan of what he just stated. Is a wrestler's look, size, and promo ability important? Yes, to a degree. Match quality and storytelling are what really important as well. When two people step into a ring and they have chemistry and they tell a story, nothing beats that. The problem I've always had with big guys is that they are limited. I don't mean in a high-flying flipping off the ropes sense, but a general sense. They get winded faster, and they typically survive on power based moves and rest holds to get through the match. An example of two guys who are bigger, but could tell an amazing story were HHH and Taker. They can do some fairly amazing moves for big guys, but can also adapt to any style. Even Lesnar fits into that equation.

Look how Taker adapted to HBK's style, and then HHH. Nash could never have adapted to that degree. Nash had some decent matches, but I've always felt his opponent carried him.

Look, bottom line, Eddie Guerrero was a hell of a wrestler that more than paid his dues. He was entertaining in the ring and deserved his time on the top. Benoit, despite his tainted career, was a machine in the ring. Both Guerrero and Benoit had something Nash never did, finesse and style to the way they executed every move they did.

As for his comments on Daniel Bryan and CM Punk, I don't care. Something I just said to a friend of mine a few days ago was that Eddie Guerrero vs. CM Punk or Daniel Bryan could have been an amazing match and I'm a fan from before the attitude era. I grew up when big guys owned wrestling. I loved watching Hogan and Andre and then Austin and Rock, but for substance, storytelling, and style in a match, I love(d) watching people like Curt Hennig, Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Randy Savage, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Shawn Michaels, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Chris Benoit, Ricky Steamboat, and Chris Jericho. All of them were relatively small, but I thought they told great stories in the ring, had a style all to their own, and put on some amazing matches.

Nash needs to let go and realize that the fans are changing. They hunger for more than a few power moves, rest holds, and quick matches . Sorry, I kind of ranted, but his post irritated me.
 
its a bit of a touchy subject just because nash used eddie and benoit to get his point across but i kinda see what hes getting at when i saw the rock in the ring with bryan and punk and i couldnt help but notice that the rock looked and behaved like a pro wrestler in the ring with two normal everyday guys

thats not a knock on bryan and punk but it is a fact and it shows how times have changed in wrestling for whats required of the main guys nowadays i enjoy watching the likes of punk and bryan but somtimes i find it hard to take some of the modern roster seriously as champion but in my opinion its not there stature thats the problem its there characters are whats not larger then life

several guys have proved in the past that you dont need to be seven foot tall to succeed in wrestling but most of them have played pretty unique characters but when i see punk and bryan i just see two normal blokes playing slightly exagerated versions of themselves thats why i dont see them as larger than life
 
Let me first say this is coming from a guy who when he has WWE Champion was the lowest point of the WWE. Who has the never to say when "Wrestling Died" when his bookings were instrumental to killing WCW.

Nash's porno example was actually spot on. Like it or not, he has a point. It could be said that he is behind the times but the fact still remains he is on track with his comments. Anybody that disagrees with him isn't old enough to remember the "larger than life" wrestlers. It was a great era.

If his definition of larger than life wrestlers was during Hogan's era, which I was a kid and casually watched. Then you could argue what big man the WWE Tried to push worked over the last 10 years? Nathan Jones, Matt Morgan, Ezikel Jackson, The Great Khali, Chris Masters, these guys had huge pushes but the crowed didn't care. Or is the "larger than life" is Austin's era which when I started watching? In which him and his fellow "larger than life" buddies put WCW to the ground?

It's ok to comment that wrestlers are no longer "larger than life" and in a way that is true. But his comments about Guerrero and Benoit and someone's package in a Porno flick is just immature and distasteful. Ultimately if you don't have anything to say that is constructive don't say it especially if it's just to bury people who works 10 times harder than he ever did.

As I recall Nash is also the same guy who had negative comments when The Miz was WWE Champion. It seems that anyone else taking the spotlight these days doesn't get Nash approval and uses a lame analogy. For Benoit/Guerrero its a porno film for The Miz it was Clint Eastwood.
 
best comment I read on this topic was...and I quote, "I thought wrestling was dead with the finger poke of doom?" LOL!!! Nash just lost a hell of a lot of respect from me. 1) Don't mess with Benoit, he was a general in the ring and as I recall, the only reason he won WCW Heavy Weight championship was because they tried to keep him in WCW. 2) All the small guys that were mentioned could and probably have wrestled circles around big sexy. Some guys have the look, some guys have the talent, some guys have both. Nash has neither nowadays.
 
You know Nash really does have a point, I mean don't you remember in 1995 when the 123 Kid was WWF champion and main evented SummerSlam against Hakushi in an event that was a complete bomb from both a workrate and financial standpoint? Oh wait that was Nash in that main event against another worthless big man in Mabel, while Kid vs. Hakushi was the opening bout and about the only match on the card worth a damn.
Or how about when Rey Misterio got the book in WCW and decided he should end Goldbergs streak and cause an almost instant ratings slide? Oh yea that was Nash again. And while we are on the subject Punk and Bryan may have to have their gimmick Tshirts but, at least their merch sells. What Nash merch has ever really moved aside from the nWo shirts which were a group and not just him.
But to be fair perhaps Nash is just simply a ratings and earnings failure and not all big men. How about that lengthy Big Show title reign? I hear the new Great Khali shirts are just flying off the shelves.
Look, bottom line is size doesn't sell. Much as I hate to say it even in-ring talent doesnt sell. Characters sell!! Hulk Hogan sells. Ric Flair sells. Stone Cold sells. The Rock sells, And yes much as many of us hate it John Cena sells. All the muscles and all the wrestling talent in the world will never compare to someone who simply knows how to get us to buy what they have to sell.
Nash can complain about the lack of larger than life wrestlers all he wants but he could at least have the common sense to understand that it isn't the actual stature that makes them so.
 
It's funny to hear these comments coming from someone who was a big part in WCW going out of business.

But the truth regarding guys like Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan is; even on their worst days; they could put on better matches and more exciting perfomances than Kevin Nash was ever capable of. They wanted to make sure the fans went home feeling they got their money's worth. It just seems that Nash is bitter that no one really cares about him anymore. Times have changed and fans are a lot smarter now than they were when Nash was on top of the wrestling world.

Nash had two things going for him during his prime. 1) He was tall during a time when bigger was better and 2) He was smart enough to become friends with the right people. With that taken care of, he never really had to worry about anything else. During his best days, he really had to rely on his opponent to make him look good. Just look at the WrestleMania match he had with Shawn Michaels, as the latter made that match watchable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It really depends on the how the fans react to them. If the fans care and respond to them, it shouldn't matter what size they are. Personally, I'd take two "small" guys wrestling a 20-to-30 minute classic than two giants stumbling and fumbling around the ring any day.

For such a big man, Nash sure comes across as being quite small.
 
Why do people even listen do Kevin Nash? The guy is a bitter old man who has never been in touch with wrestling fans. Eddie, Benoit, Punk, Bryan, and Jericho all have/had more talent in a fingernail than Nash ever did.


P.S. FUCK Vinny Vegas
 
Nash is someone who simply wants to stay relevant in a world where he's being passed by. Wrestling died when he helped put WCW in the toilet. He nearly killed WWE in 1995 when he was the top guy. He's bitter and jealous because he never could draw the money or buyrates that Benoit, Guererro, and Jericho's drawn. Nash has presided or been a huge part of some of the worst moments in wrestling history (Fingerpoke of Doom, his 10 second squash of Bob Backlund, and countless other things he's done). He's simply irrelevant and the only way to stay in the news is to say controversial things about people that are either dead or are doing much better as wrestlers then he ever did.

I personally didn't care for Nash's in-ring work from the word go. He's limited in the ring, he's stiff as a board when he tries to walk, and he's his biggest fan. So for him to say the things he did about Bryan and Punk, along with Benoit, Eddie, and Jericho, it shows me that he's insecure about his own career and how bad it was.
 
These comments are absolutely ridiculous. Eddie and Benoit winning was one of the greatest and most emotional moments in wrestling history. How could this possibly be bad for business? Kevin Nash being champion? Now that's bad for business! (just pulled out my inner CM Punk there.)

Now I have 2 more quotes to prove Kevin Nash was not a great champion:

First one is from Chris Jericho- "Funny how @realkevinnash says wrestling "died" when Benoit and Guerrero were champs-Yet the worst year for WWE biz was 95 when he was on top."

And my 2nd one is from a girl that happens to be CM Punk's little girl- "OMG Kevin Nash WTF? Thought he was dead LOL"

What a great quote......

Anyway, really Nash, comparing WWE to a porno? His analogy does not make sense, Chris Benoit was small but sure was he jacked and looked like a legitimate fighter. Like Jack Hammer said, I think Nash is just behind the times and wants to think that WWE is getting worse since he left. What about Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and even Jeff Jarett? They were small but yet they were champions. Wrestling sure did not "die" here if anything it flourished.
 
Poor Nash just doesnt get it. Is this guy still living in the 80's/90's?

Today, its more inspirational for me and my son to see a guy who's a Straightedge, or a Vegan, than to see guys in the 90's from the nWo come down to the ring smoking cigars almost every Monday, or Shawn in 97' drinking from I think was a bottle of whisky, plus smoking.

What Nash had going for him was the look and decent mic skills. But when the bell rang, I was bored with him within a minute. He needed guys like Bret and Shawn to carry the match. I just saw earlier clips from his last match with Triple H at TLC 2011, and what he did was nothing different from 16 years ago. Knees to the stomach, elbows to the guys neck, flip back hair, repeat.

True workers, were Bret/Shawn, Austin/Rock, Benoit/Eddie, and now Punk/Bryan.
 
I tried to like Nash, but it slowly became clear to me that his greatest claim to fame is the night he walked out on WCW television. He has just become so absorbed with himself that he wants us to beleive he was the best ever to step in the ring. By far he was not.


He never had anything going for him except politics and height. He has barely been able to get across the ring without hurting himself for quite a while now and when he does, its limited to a few knees in the corner and a powerbomb. So now he hates on those who are far more talented and have much better position with the company than he ever will again.


The WM moment he trashes was huge, for the 2 involved and all their fans. One thing he fails to mention is that one guy who became a monster star since then and that is Cena. Since 2004 we were taken to a new era in the business and Nash doesnt like it bc he doesnt have all his friends around to tell him how great he is and give him a ME spot. He was left behind and is just sour bc he cant hang in the ring with any of the top guys today. That includes on the mic, or in the ring.
 
Maybe Kevin Nash likes to watch wrestling for the big, tall, sweaty dudes with big penises, but not me. And that is not a knock on anyone that watches wrestling for that reason, like Mr. Nash apparently does. The bigger the better he says. Is Kevin Nash advocating the use of steroids? I'll let you decide that one.

Personally, I've always watched wrestling to see the best wrestlers in the ring and be entertained and captivated by the best on the mic no matter the size. Fact is, giant wrestlers have been used to do jobs for main event wrestlers, as opposed to actually being main eventers, for years now. These main eventers include many "small" wrestlers who would be difficult to recognize in an airport, which is currently not factored into the WWE main event equation like it apparently was in Kev's day. Seems to me, the fans want something else. By the way, my bet is the Big Show's shoulders stay down for the three count at Summerslam. Punk wins.

Kevin Nash likes his "vanilla midget" term, but in reality he's nothing but a vanilla big man. He offers nothing to distinguish himself from other big men outside of knowing some important people and being in the right place and time throughout his career. Sure he made a lot of money. Sure he's recognizable in an airport or whatever. He made a career of doing things his way and it worked. Doesn't mean he's still not boring and vanilla. He just happens to be bigger than the "midgets" he likes to criticize. God given size, some luck, some people and mic skills, and a constant selfish attitude equated into a successful career for Kev. Good for him. People like Guerrero, Punk and Danielson will continue to make careers out of defying the odds that say they can't be superstars, and being the absolute best they can be. There is room for both types of wrestlers. Come on Kev, I thought your tight, douchey, black MMA design tees meant you were a little more with the times than this.

On the other side of this issue, Kevin Nash is speaking some truths about the wrestling business, but it just comes off poorly. I think it sounds ignorant and spiteful to say that the wrestling business died at Wrestlemania 20 with Guerrero and Benoit in the ring as champs. Although, I don't think it's very far off to say their respective deaths lead to major changes in the industry like the wellness policy and the fact that a lot more talking has replaced in ring action. I can see how some would feel those facts have killed the business, but not the fact that they were champions.
 
Why do people even listen do Kevin Nash? The guy is a bitter old man who has never been in touch with wrestling fans.

Exactly.
I'd be surprised if there's a person on this planet who listens to anything Nash says and feel the urge to say "Hmm, this guy is very rational and makes great points." The man is trying to stay significant because his name isn't marketable on its own.

I think it's a damn shame that he'd publicly voice such an opinion regardless of its validity. Is it worth kicking dirt all over their legacies?
 
I agree with some of what he is saying... If you dont know who they are and you run into guys like Rock, Austin, Orton, Brock, HHH, Cena etc you would think they are pro wrestlers or some sort of fighter. If you run into guys like Punk and Bryan you wouldn't know what they do.

I disagree about what he said about Benoit and Eddie. They were not tall guys but they were built. Benoit was a freakin tank. Nash seems a little too caught up in actual height.

I do think you need a balance. You dont want everybody with the same body type. You need your bigger guys, you need some smaller guys and guys in between.

I find Daniel Bryan current style very believable. He's a submission specialist that works on limbs. When he was champ he got a lot of lucky wins or found cheap ways to win matches. I dont know why anybody would have a problem with his lack of size when you watch the type of character he is playing.

I could never take CM Punk seriously as a bad ass type like Austin though.
 
Honestly? There are people in the generation before him who'd say Nash isn't a real wrestler because he doesn't have cauliflower ears, and the business died when Hogan beat the Iron Sheik.

Things evolve, Kev. And the crowds for Punk and Bryan seem quite alive to me.
 
Slow Clap for Chris Jericho's Twitter comments

Funny how @realkevinnash says wrestling “died” when Benoit and Guerrero were champs-Yet the worst year for WWE biz was 95 when he was on top

This pretty much invalidates any of Nash's comments and makes whatever criticism he gives as irrelevant.
 
I find it funny that Kevin Nash went on this little rant when one of his friends, one of the greatest WWE Superstars and my favorite wrestler of all time, HBK, doesn't have a big build and a giant muscle head like HHH or Cena

HBK stands in at 6'1 and compared to people like stone cold, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Chris Jericho, Shawn isn't even the tallest or most built out of the group... CM Punk is roughly the same build and their talent levels are two of the best in the business to ever lace up their boots or even pick up a microphone. Even look at guys like Mick Foley who isn't a big ole bruiser and jacked and muscular yet he has been one of the most popular superstars ever. Also look at some of the future next big superstars in the company, Dolph Ziggler is right around the same size as all of the guys I mentioned earlier, and also goes for people like The Miz and Tyson Kidd and other WWE Superstars that are very prominent in the WWE today. To me Kevin Nash is a fool and isn't he in talks with TNA who is a lot different than WWE in terms of wrestlers, I mean look at AJ styles and Jeff Hardy, TNA doesn't really have too many strictly big guys that are 6'8 and super muscular like a Cena or HHH or Lesner, seems like a giant hypocrite if you ask me/
 
Why is he such a hater? He should be happy with what he was given, and hell his movie career is doing pretty dam good, he has been a couple mainstream movies this year with A list stars. So I just don't get why he hate on people so much, one of his best friends HBK, don't fit the mold of what VKM wants as a champion, not super tall, don't have huge muscles. I just don't get why he's so angry, LOL.
 
Nash is right on the money and most of you are too blind with your Nash hate to see it.

Guys like Hogan, Austin, Rock, and Cena appear to be larger than life because they are. You list all these smaller guys to try to prove your point but they prove Nash's point more. Benoit was never a big draw. Guerrero was never a big draw. HBK was never a big draw. Jericho was never a big draw. Mysterio was never a big draw. I heard people wishing that it was someone like Punk to go against Lesnar instead of HHH. Do any of you actually think that Punk has a better chance to beat Lesnar than someone of similar build to Lesnar in HHH? If you do, you're lying to yourselves. You may think that the list of small guys disproves the theory that you have to be big to be champion, but them not being big draws sort of validates it.
 
I've never quite been under the influence that the business was made on these big guys you always here Kevin Nash talk about. When the business boomed in the 80s you had your Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant at the very top. Randy Savage wasn't much more than 10-15 pounds bigger than CM Punk is now. Bret Hart was about Savage's size; Shawn Michaels, the guy who Nash thinks he put on the map, never even hit 200 until the later years. That's Shawn Michaels, the widely proclaimed best pro wrestler in history, mind you.

I'll admit, you make a list of the biggest draws in the industry's long history, you're going to end up with mostly bigger, larger-than-life Superstars. The guys who define the word "superstar" and took the place of the apparently less interesting "professional wrestler". But there's always been solid performers and decent draws along the way; draws the company simply couldn't have made it without. John Cena may draw 50% of the gate with his enormous star power, but guys like CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, Sheamus, etc etc are drawing the other half, easily. The WWE name itself, is drawing a majority of it, regardless of who is in the driver's seat.

The problem is that Nash sees himself as one of the biggest draws ever. He's said dozens of times that he's responsible for getting guys "guaranteed money" and changing the business forever. He still thinks he was a vital part of the NWO, and its apparent that somebody in TNA management used to believe his bullshit... The truth, in my opinion, is that Kevin Nash is actually numero uno in the list of guys that were BIG, LARGER THAN LIFE SUPERSTARS, but in reality accomplished very little compared to some of the smaller names that will live forever. Most of which he's been booked under time and time again throughout his career.
 

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