KB Answers Wrestling Questions

[klunderbunker]

You're looking at it backwards.

It's at the point now where the members don't matter other than the leader. Once the leader is revealed, you don't really need members to be named.

 

[Danger Burger]

You're looking at it backwards.

It's at the point now where the members don't matter other than the leader. Once the leader is revealed, you don't really need members to be named.

Funnily enough I asked this question in reverse a few weeks ago. (not as some sort of ploy against your thread by the by.)

I hope it stays on course, and I like masked wrestlers. Good for me.

And the leader is this Arm-Breaker guy? Nobody pulling his strings?? Or do you think it will go higher than that...?

And (sorry) did you see any relevance to the little meeting room scene where Pritchard/D-lo/Hogan/Snow/Dixie were talking and one said "It could even be one of us"? Alongside D-Lo saying "lets let them in" and the near-fact that D-Lo was often playing the leader at some points and only retired from wrestling not too long ago, does it make him an in any way likely leader?
And could that be made interesting?

I swear I'm done now.

 

[klunderbunker]

Nah. the leader is the guy that was talking to Sting and Hogan last week.

I've said this many times now: it doesn't matter who is wearing the masks until one is pulled off.

 

[Danger Burger]

Nah. the leader is the guy that was talking to Sting and Hogan last week.

I've said this many times now: it doesn't matter who is wearing the masks until one is pulled off.

Thanks KB.

 

[Remix]

Punk: I want respect.

Cena: I won't say I respect you.

Doesn't sound that dumb. Same rules as an I Quit match and they've run plenty of those with Cena over the years.

With an I Quit match you've got to beat on someone to the point where they have to verbally announce to the arena that they quit, which can at least be imagined to be worse than tapping the mat. At what point does hitting someone with a chair make you more likely to respect them?

I know this is an insane idea for WWE, but they could bring up someone new to face him. Turning heel to fight Cena was fine, but having them fight one on one at three PPVs and having Punk win every time so far and then saying he has to do it again isn't doing Punk any favors.

None of the midcard heels had the credibility to step up. On account of WWE's chronically shit usage of them. And Punk won a match by picking Show's bones and the second was a tie. He's been retaining/winning by technicalities. That's why the next match (even if it wasn't in the Cell) would have been something along the lines of last man standing or Ironman where you can't win/lose on a technicality.

I would be very surprised if Cena won. I really would be.

We shall see.

Translation: it's lazy booking that has allowed the bookers to not have to think because they only have about 5 stories that they keep replaying over and over. I'd like to see them think of something new or at least fresh.

Pretty much. My idea was at least fresh, for anybody outside of Tampa.

Yeah, but you can have quite a run on being a monster. Punk has never been a monster, nor has his heel run done anything to make me want to see him fight more. At the end of the day, he's being dragged down by Cena because they won't let him get past Cena, because this company is afraid to let anyone be a breakout or breakaway star.

Yes. You can have quite a run as a monster. Until you lose and become irrelevent, or develop a personality beyond killing people*. And I don't blame WWE for not elevating him past Cena. Cena draws more money, and WWE's always been slow to elevate someone above their big draw. Nobody went higher than Hogan (except for Warrior, and even then...) until he left. Nobody was higher than Austin until he had to go via injury, at which point Rock became the guy. Nobody went higher than Rock until he went to Hollywood. Then we had HHH's run of doom (though Evolution was designed to get two people over him), followed by Cena becoming the biggest wrestling star of the generation.

*See also: Kane and Tensai.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Why do people want Ryback to face Punk so soon? Ryback isn't going to win the belt because there are way more important things than him to be built later. Which means Ryback will have to lose to Punk, clean, dirty, or not it's a loss which won't help Ryback going forward. And if he does win it will be too soon. I'm all for giving him a push, but not one that he doesn't deserve and should be nowhere near.

 

[klunderbunker]

With an I Quit match you've got to beat on someone to the point where they have to verbally announce to the arena that they quit, which can at least be imagined to be worse than tapping the mat. At what point does hitting someone with a chair make you more likely to respect them?

When you realize they want it more than you, which in Cena's case is the basis of his character. When those words basically define Punk's character, it fits better than the Cell as there's actually a point to it with the storyline. The Cell is about violence, not a feud based on respect.

None of the midcard heels had the credibility to step up. On account of WWE's chronically shit usage of them. And Punk won a match by picking Show's bones and the second was a tie. He's been retaining/winning by technicalities. That's why the next match (even if it wasn't in the Cell) would have been something along the lines of last man standing or Ironman where you can't win/lose on a technicality.

Rock would disagree with losing an iron man match on a technicality.

As for bringing someone new in, maybe they should stop treating their midcard like crap and actuall build up some new names, which to be fair they're doing better at recently.

Pretty much. My idea was at least fresh, for anybody outside of Tampa.

And it's certainly better than most things I've seen from the shows lately.

Yes. You can have quite a run as a monster. Until you lose and become irrelevent, or develop a personality beyond killing people*. And I don't blame WWE for not elevating him past Cena. Cena draws more money, and WWE's always been slow to elevate someone above their big draw. Nobody went higher than Hogan (except for Warrior, and even then...) until he left. Nobody was higher than Austin until he had to go via injury, at which point Rock became the guy. Nobody went higher than Rock until he went to Hollywood. Then we had HHH's run of doom (though Evolution was designed to get two people over him), followed by Cena becoming the biggest wrestling star of the generation.

*See also: Kane and Tensai.

If being around for 15 years and winning multiple world titles means irrelevant, I'll be as irrelevant as Kane anytime.

 

[klunderbunker]

Why do people want Ryback to face Punk so soon? Ryback isn't going to win the belt because there are way more important things than him to be built later. Which means Ryback will have to lose to Punk, clean, dirty, or not it's a loss which won't help Ryback going forward. And if he does win it will be too soon. I'm all for giving him a push, but not one that he doesn't deserve and should be nowhere near.

If they go with what it looked like they were going with, the smart move would be to have Miz interfere and give Ryback a DQ win, which keeps everything happy and gives Ryback his first title shot at Miz at HIAC.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

If they go with what it looked like they were going with, the smart move would be to have Miz interfere and give Ryback a DQ win, which keeps everything happy and gives Ryback his first title shot at Miz at HIAC.

Him having no interaction in the slightest with Miz this week certainly didn't help things.

 

[klunderbunker]

Him having no interaction in the slightest with Miz this week certainly didn't help things.

Well that's because it was a week ago and that's longer than the writers' memories go.

 

[Remix]

Kane was an example of a monster who developed a character (the Kane who debuted by ripping off the HiaC door is not the same Kane who's the tag team champions) and thus maintaining his relevance once he stopped being a monster heel. Tensai represents the monster heel who starts strong, loses and has since jobbed to Tyson Kidd.

 

[klunderbunker]

Actually I think Kane represents someone who doesn't absolutely suck and who has actually gotten some effort put into him, unlike Tensai who is Albert but with a Japanese name which is supposed to make him interesting somehow.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Well that's because it was a week ago and that's longer than the writers' memories go.

I still don't think that's the direction they're going. If they put him up against Punk in the near future he will most likely lose and in turn steam will be gone.

 

[klunderbunker]

I don't think they're going to have him against Punk, and if they do they're not going to have him lose. A DQ loss for Punk would mean nothing bad at all for him.

 

[Remix]

Actually I think Kane represents someone who doesn't absolutely suck and who has actually gotten some effort put into him, unlike Tensai who is Albert but with a Japanese name which is supposed to make him interesting somehow.

Replace Tensai with any other flash in the pan unbeaten monster that fell of the radar the second he got pinned. He's just the most recent example of the typical trajectory of a monster heel.

Fuck, Kane wasn't supposed to still be here. He was supposed to vanish after 'Taker beat him at 'Mania the first time.

 

[klunderbunker]

Yet he's still here because he has talent.

 

[Remix]

He had talent as Unabomb, Diesel, and Isaac Yankem too.

 

[klunderbunker]

Which got him a job, appearances, and a Summerslam match with Bret Hart.

Aside: the funny move would have been to have Kane turn back into Fake Diesel and lose to Gillberg.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Even though I don't like Kane, he has had a solid career. He's always reliable. He rarely gets injured which I'm surprised by. He can be in the midcard, tag team, and heavyweight division and never lose credibility by losing a lot because he can be dominant in a hurry.

 

[The Man They Call WMD]

I don't think they're going to have him against Punk, and if they do they're not going to have him lose. A DQ loss for Punk would mean nothing bad at all for him.

How you get Dq'd in a hell in the cell match?

 

[klunderbunker]

Ryback isn't going to be in the Cell match. If he has a match against Punk it's going to be on Raw.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I've seen DQ's in more mind-boggling situations.

 

[Martin Gabriel]

Do you think Brodus Clay should go back to his monster heel gimmick?

 

[Da Prophet]

What would you have done at No Mercy 2007 when WWE Champion John Cena suffered an injury a week before the event?

 

[klunderbunker]

Do you think Brodus Clay should go back to his monster heel gimmick?

Since it looks like his push is in trouble, maybe.

What would you have done at No Mercy 2007 when WWE Champion John Cena suffered an injury a week before the event?

The same thing they did but without the first HHH title win.