Kane...What happened?

[TimAH]

im probalby reading too much into it but i found it odd.
A few weeks ago Kane said something to the effect of "i know im my heart he's dead" and he said it as if this was a bad thing. Now he says he is dead he sounded happy and relieved about it. I wonder if they changed the direction of the angle between those two statements.

 

[Straight_Edge_Mystic]

When the segment last night ended, I thought what a poor pay-off to what could've been a great angle. Then I started thinking more, it can't be over, even without Adamle's decree. I started thinking this because of the way Kane looked at the bag after he said he was better. He stared at it with an uncertain look on his face. Even though he said he was fine, he still only said it and without any proof. So, I think he is just saying he's better, even though he knows he is not. Why, maybe it's part of some plan to throw everyone off. Or like a lot of people are saying, it's a psychological battle with himself and so he's not sure. Maybe last night, Kane chose to listen to soft Kane, but will later realize that's a bad idea because soft Kane is a loser. This is a very confusing storyline because they are not giving us anything to really work with. I just hope he destroys both Adamle and Kelly Kelly, I can't stand either of them.

 

[leby_uk]

hey guys im new to the forum, just read this thread which made me sign up to have my say. Me and my friend have bene discussing this storyline now for a while, Kane being his favourite wrestler.
Well having watched the storyline progress think its fair to say it shouldnt have anything to do with.

1.Vince McMahon because they already announced he was stable in hospital and recovering.

2. Undertaker whose is continuing his feud with Edge and is on Smackdown.

3. Paul Bearer seems to be out of the firing line know also since the bag came into play.

Now and and my friend have been debating and we honestly believe in the end it will be something to do with the mask. But we dont seem to stick to that one idea for some reason our minds change and change.

One thing i think might be happening is the debut of a new wrestler like ive seen a few people say "son of kane" and stuff but not to them extremes just another monster who comes and faces kane. Reason why i think this is because "Im better now" "hes dead" and looks at his bag it would be pointless if that was the mask and then he puts it on if the man behind the mask is dead :S. However like people say a twist could be invovled yet.

But in our thinking it has to be revolving around the mask. But im starting to get bored of the storyline because they kinda stopped it all together for 2 episodes.

But hopefully little more gets revealed next week when Mike Adamle attempts to take the mask which we all know will result in kane flipping out and going ballistic on anyone and anything that tries to get the bag.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

I really hope this leads to something really good or it will be a huge let down. I hope the writers can turn this into something good. I hope the mask is in the bag and that Kane has dual personalities and he thinks the "masked kane" is dead...and he ends up going phsycho which will be good. The only thing is that if it's the mask and Kane puts it on, it wont be as cool because we already know what kane looks like without. Before the good thing about Kane was the mystery behind him but now we all know who Kane is and the mask may not help resurect his career.

 

[klunderbunker]

This storyline has been dragged out for too long now and it's come to the point that I honestly could care less waht's in his bag anymore. Last night should have ended this story, even as bad as it was done. It could turn into a good story if done right with Kane going crazy again which is what he's best at. I was actually excited to hear Adamle say that he was going to make Kane reveal what's in the bag next week so that it can finally come to an end or at least take a big step forward. My money is on his mask as is most people, but it could be something else for a good twist. If it ends up with Kane being more like his old self, I'm happy either way.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

This storyline had all the potential in the world to make Kane a Huge force on RAW again. But like they usually do WWE creative messed up a good angle and dragged it on for to long and people could care less. IF they had shown us all what was in the bag yesterday then it would have been ok, but instead they are dragging it out for another week.

Now onto what I hope happens with this angle. I hope at least that Kane puts the mask back on. He was better with the mask and if they do it right i think Kane can get back at least some of his former glory. My hopes aren't to high though because I've been watching WWE long enough to see them screw up many good storylines

 

[klunderbunker]

The only problem that I see with the mask is that the original mystique that kane had was the idea that his face was horribly burned and his mask was used to hide the people from the horrors that lay beneath it. We've seen his face now for almost 5 years, so why should it be needed for him to wear a mask now? Unless something happens where he gets burned or hurt again, tehre's no need for him to have it, but I can't picture it being anythign other than that.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

I know what you mean KB. I personally think they should have never taken the mask off of Kane in the first place. They did though and we the fans are stuck with someone who should be in the Main Event stuck in the mid-card. Like I said I hope this angle and whatever happens with it puts Kane where he belongs which is in the Main Event. The only other thing i can see come out of this is that it totally ruins his career which as a Kane fan is not something I want to see happen.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

The only problem that I see with the mask is that the original mystique that kane had was the idea that his face was horribly burned and his mask was used to hide the people from the horrors that lay beneath it. We've seen his face now for almost 5 years, so why should it be needed for him to wear a mask now? Unless something happens where he gets burned or hurt again, tehre's no need for him to have it, but I can't picture it being anythign other than that.

Simple nostalgia. Why does the crowd pop when Austin comes out to squirt someone with a beer hose and leave, knowing he won't make a comeback and start wrestling like his old self? Cause its just an old fun thing. Kane wearing the mask again is better than Kane NOT wearing the mask, but it won't completely revolutionize his character. Putting on the mask might get him a better reaction from the crowd than what he's currently getting, but its not as if anybody in their right mind should think that he'd actually go back to his old, better skill-level because of it.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm a fan of his as well, and I can't picture this leading to anything close to him getting back in the main event. He'll likely go crazy, but the one thing that's in his favor right now is the weakness of the World title picture. Kane has been around for a very long time. 11 years this month, which is a very long time in this company. That's longer than the Rock's run, Austin's run, and twice as long as Cena and Batista. He deserves to be the champion for a legit reign, even if it's just a transitional one. There's no way to argue that Punk has more credentials as a main eventer at this stage in his career. Kane still has one more major run in him, and hopefully he's finally given the run he's deserved for years.

 

[klunderbunker]

Simple nostalgia. Why does the crowd pop when Austin comes out to squirt someone with a beer hose and leave, knowing he won't make a comeback and start wrestling like his old self? Cause its just an old fun thing. Kane wearing the mask again is better than Kane NOT wearing the mask, but it won't completely revolutionize his character. Putting on the mask might get him a better reaction from the crowd than what he's currently getting, but its not as if anybody in their right mind should think that he'd actually go back to his old, better skill-level because of it.

I think with this part of what would happen would be that people would get the idea that he's back to his old skill level simply because of the look that comes with it. He's still doing the same basic moveset he's been doing for years just not at the same speed. If he does the same thing he's doing now as he's been improving a bit in the last few months, then maybe he'll earn a title push. My thought on Kane has always been that he doesn't try as hard as he could because there's no reason for him to. He's never really been a real world title contender in his career since his initial push even when he was working his ass off so why should he try if he knows it's not going to get him anywhere? With the title picture as weak as it is now, he finally has a reason to work at it so maybe he finally will.

 

[Antleader]

I really want to know what's in that bag, I'm sure quite a few people do. But doesn't this sound a lot like what people wanted when Kane was masked? They wanted to see his face, now we want to see what's in the bag. I think that it is possible that the bag is a thing much like the mask was. That it gives power, eeriness, and mysteriousness to Kane. What do you think about this?

 

[Skreach666]

Kane Is A psychotic Much Like The undertaker( His Brother)

1. Kane Is Inmasked and They brought A fake Kane In Like They Did With Taker
2. Paul Bayer Is Kanes Dad And Is Coming Back TO Wrestling
3. A Mask Is In The Bag; Its To Thin To be Anything Else
4. He Has Split Personality
5. he and mankind are alike who is most likely coming back as well so his mask might be in it tying kane and undertaker together to fight the former tag team of mc foley(mankind) and edge
6. pay attention to kanes movement they are going back to the old kane(mask) the fire from ringpost when he enters the room goes dark and red. he jasnt done that in a long while.


Now The hes Dead hes Finally Dead He Could be Talking About the monster inside or his other personality. the evil within. when kane first came out he never spoke the he started to when his anger was released.

so paul bayer is returning its just a matter of when
kane mystery inside will be revealed
taker will kick edge rearend in
i beleive mankind will return to the ring
so its going to get interesting

 

[Vintage Nick]

Kane Is A psychotic Much Like The undertaker( His Brother)

1. Kane Is Inmasked and They brought A fake Kane In Like They Did With Taker
2. Paul Bayer Is Kanes Dad And Is Coming Back TO Wrestling
3. A Mask Is In The Bag; Its To Thin To be Anything Else
4. He Has Split Personality
5. he and mankind are alike who is most likely coming back as well so his mask might be in it tying kane and undertaker together to fight the former tag team of mc foley(mankind) and edge
6. pay attention to kanes movement they are going back to the old kane(mask) the fire from ringpost when he enters the room goes dark and red. he jasnt done that in a long while.


Now The hes Dead hes Finally Dead He Could be Talking About the monster inside or his other personality. the evil within. when kane first came out he never spoke the he started to when his anger was released.

so paul bayer is returning its just a matter of when
kane mystery inside will be revealed
taker will kick edge rearend in
i beleive mankind will return to the ring
so its going to get interesting

1) Festus was Fake Kane...don't know how they'll pull that one off again.

2) While I would like to believe Paul Bearer is returning, he's not Kane's father. Both parents of Kane and Taker were killed in the fire...unless Paul pulls what that one manager did with Abyss in TNA.

3) Boogeyman's worms! Just kidding. It's got to be the mask, it's too obvious.

4) Not anymore. "'He' is dead now." No longer a split personality, eh? 8D

5) Are you saying Bros. of Destruction vs Mankind/Edge? I don't think so.

6) It's always been dark and red.

And about Mankind returning to the ring...that's IF Mick Foley decides to stay after Summerslam.

 

[Jappa121]

I just thought of something, what if Kane debut's with his mask on during the hell in the cell match, Like he originally debut'd.. It looks as though this is what is going to happen. I doubt we will see whats in the bag next RAW, Kane will probably kill adamle or something, But I honestly think this is the perfect chance to debut masked kane, just like he was originally introduced, during the hell in the cell!

 

[hhhfan14]

ok, i only have one problem, kane is a monster, so why the heck are we seeing this little punk adamle sayin, kane u better open ur bag and show whats inside or im gonna make u, are u serious????? Is kane really gonna let this little punk tell him what to do, espiaclly if he has been behaving like his character has here lately, i dont think so, so like i said earlier, this storyline has become bs lke the rest of wwe here lately, although i do like adamle, although he is a cheep cutoff of eric bishoff

 

[Jappa121]

I dont think the storyline is bs because of what adamle said. Obviously Kane isnt just going to give up his bag without a fight, The story is still just getting started I think, They just have alot of things going on right now, so since they werent planning on revealing the contents of the bag they kinda put the storyline on the back burner, Im sure whenever Kane puts the mask on he will become a much bigger part of RAW

How is Mike Adamle like Eric Bischoff?

 

[Mr. Showtime]

Adamle is probably going to form some sort of posse, because there is no way on this earth Kane is going to be like ''oh yeah, here's my bag Mike take a look inside an pull out whatever's in it''.

I can see the posse beating down Kane and revealing what's in the bag, Kane sits up and demolishes everyone and puts the mask back on to end the show.

It probably won't quite go down like that if WWE are planning on this whole thing playing out a little longer.

But something has to come to some sort of conclusion this monday on Raw to keep me intrested.

 

[Suneeboy]

I have been thinking that Adamle will confront Kane to no avail - however Kelly Kelly seems to be trying to kiss up to Adamle so let's say she brings in coffee or tea or something for them to drink and she trips and spills it and it hits Kane's face. Kane will come out at SummerSlam and start a feud with Adamle who sicks goons on him and puts Kane in crazy matches. This will put Kane over as a face since the crowd will cheer for him no matter what if he puts the mask on, and Adamle over as a heel GM because if he is a face GM I will vomit.

What do you guys think?

 

[Jappa121]

Well Im almost positive that we arent going to see whats in the bag monday, regardless of what the reason we dont is. Be it Kelly Kelly with coffee, Fire, Bam Neely...We just aren't going to see whats in kanes bag. I honestly can't see WWE ending this storyline with kane still being face,

I dont think adamle is going to be heel either, If WWE was going to make him heel they wouldve probably did it already with all the heat the guy gets it wouldve been easy to take that route, It looks like they are still trying to push adamle in the same direction they have been since he came in...Just get him to work in the few ways he can

 

[PWBG_KANE]

I think we will see a match just like in 2003 when kane was unmasked.But this time will be Kane vs Punk if Kane wins he will become WHC but if he looses he`ll must open his bag.But it`ll be an inferno match and Kane will be onfire

 

[slimmshady]

I think this scenario will revolve around an inferno match or some other event that causes kanes face to become burnt. Now, whoever the opponent is, whether its adamle or batista (less likely because of the feud with cena). I think this will lead to the event in which paul bearer returns (as I heard somewhere that he wouldn't mind returning to wrestling again). Whatever the outcome of this story is, I must say that it is quite interesting as a lot of people have been waiting since 2003 to see the masked kane dominate once again. That's probably why kane gets a large cheer even though he is meant to be heel.

 

[slimmshady]

I think I understand what the kane story is all about. Forget what I said earlier. In my previous posts I posted a storyline that wwe could use to bring back the masked kane and I think that it is quite similar to the current storyline. After watching kane's post match ring announcement again, I have a general view of the story (also I think there are some other people on this forum that agree with me). Basically, whats happening to kane is he is having a split personality. After defeating matt striker he said its 'ok he is dead now' (or something like that). This means that his evil, twisted side has calmed down and his recent babyface side has taken over. In the end the mask will eventually show the heel side of kane and the maskless side will show the babyface side of kane and the story will be a constant struggle between the face side and the heel. What will happen is sometimes the mask kane will appear in some matches and other times the maskless side of kane will appear. Like I mentioned before, I thought of a similar story to bring the masked kane back. Basically what I said was for wwe to unleash the masked kane on raw but the unmasked kane of ecw and smackdown. But the new idea showing the struggle sounds better. Now all kane needs is a trigger to unleash the monster inside of him and I think it is going to be something to do with an inferno match or fire.

 

[Bobby B]

Sorry if someone has already posted this idea.

Wouldn't it be simple just to have Kane vs Masked Kane (most likely portrayed by Drew Harkinson aka Festus as he did it last time - or someone else) and have a buried alive match , where the loser was killed off - like an actual buried alive match.

Simple thing to do would be to have the Masked Kane win , then the real Kane puts the mask back on an wrestles as him from here on in.

What do you think about that idea?

 

[Rug3r]

(although i feel bad for cody. he'll never have good mic skills with that lisp of his.)

Cody Rhodes has great mic skills.

I know this is a bit off topic but I can't wait for Orton to come back, he got injured as soon as Raw started getting good and went through all those changes. I really do hope though that either Y2J or Orton take the title off Punk.

As for Kane, I'm interested to see where they are going with this like the others. Kane can't make up his mind whether he's alive or dead and it seems that the creative team can't make up their mind on whether Kane is a face or a heel. I've seen a lot of good explanations in this thread and I'm pretty sure that he has the mask in the bag. I wonder if he is only going to wear the mask or is his whole attire going to change if it is indeed the mask.