KANE: future?

[Eternal Dragon]

But there's no point. The masks been on for so long and it would compeltely random for him to just put it back on. The mask made him famous because people didn't know what his face looked like, and it added to the moster thing but now it wouldn't do anything.
Flames Out
Dragon

 

[Chain Gang MVP]

If they did a storyline angle where he gets burned, he could put the mask on.

 

[justinsayne]

I agree with dragon, there's no mystery to Kane now that the mask has been removed so putting back on wouldn't make sence, however I also agree with chain gang in that, if they did a storyline then they could put the mask back on, but I don't think burnig him would be the right storyline because a few years ago, shortly after loseing the mask kane was in a feud with Shane McMahon, and during that feud Shane kicked Kane into a dumpster that was set on fire, and Kane came back unscathed.

The way I would do it, and this is a bit of a stretch, is have Kane face the Masked Kane in a "Loser leaves WWE" match. Then Kane would lose thus leaving the Masked Kane as the only Kane in the WWE, then they could put the mask on the real Kane and no one would know if it's the real Kane or the Masked Kane, then it bring a little mystery back to it.

But like I said this is a bit of a stretch, not to mention confusing as hell, and I honstly don't ever expect to see WWE do it.

 

[henrywang693]

thats actaully not that bad of the idea..maybe u should join WWE creative esp. the smackdown side as they are in much need....of everything

 

[WrestlingIsJericho616]

I hate how everyone always says Kane and Undertaker should be a tag team.... Brothers Of Destruction? That is a terrible name. Kane should be in the title picture or at LEAST NOT JOBBING TO MVP Kane vs. Undertaker not bad... Kane with Undertaker....shouldn't happen....AND is bad.

 

[amboy]

I hate how everyone always says Kane and Undertaker should be a tag team.... Brothers Of Destruction? That is a terrible name. Kane should be in the title picture or at LEAST NOT JOBBING TO MVP Kane vs. Undertaker not bad... Kane with Undertaker....shouldn't happen....AND is bad.

they say it because they used to be a tag team

 

[Kasey]

I love Kane's gimmick and have for a while due to the outlandish theatricality of it, but the man has to increase his speed, flexibility, and selling ability in order to wear the strap. It wouldn't hurt for him to drop about thirty pounds and change his training regimen to focus on agility, instead of just brute strength (ala The Rock). This is the same reason he tore his bicep a few years ago. Lifting too heavy, and not trying to worry about what goes on in the ring.

 

[Bernkastel]

I disagree, i think that kane has all the tools to be world champ. has far as his moveset, it hasn't changed much since the 6 years iv'e been watching him. the only moves kane doesn't do anymore or on a regular basis are the powerbomb and the tilt a whirl slam. Kane does the tombstone but not as often due to bad knees. kanes wieght is fine, he actually wieghs less now then when he debuted. and his agility is fine considering that iv'e seen him perform dropkicks, hurricaranas, and leapfrogs since 2005-2006 which tells me he can move around when he needs to. wwe hasn't been using kane to his full potenial or its been while and wwe just needs to put him in a match with someone like booker t or chris beniot or undertaker to remaind us what kane can do.

why wwe is having him feud with mvp is beyond me.

 

[Kasey]

I disagree, i think that kane has all the tools to be world champ. has far as his moveset, it hasn't changed much since the 6 years iv'e been watching him. the only moves kane doesn't do anymore or on a regular basis are the powerbomb and the tilt a whirl slam. Kane does the tombstone but not as often due to bad knees. kanes wieght is fine, he actually wieghs less now then when he debuted. and his agility is fine considering that iv'e seen him perform dropkicks, hurricaranas, and leapfrogs since 2005-2006 which tells me he can move around when he needs to. wwe hasn't been using kane to his full potenial or its been while and wwe just needs to put him in a match with someone like booker t or chris beniot or undertaker to remaind us what kane can do.

why wwe is having him feud with mvp is beyond me.

He's too slow and immobile with regards to selling for his opponents. He has ZERO explosiveness when it comes to movement in the ring. None of the athletes you mentioned can help him. Undertaker went at it with Kane at WM20 and the match was a stinker. It also reaffirmed everything I said about him. Being able to perform a move, and being able to perform it with explosiveness and power are separate things. I've also seen him in the last year or so in a match with Benoit that sucked as well. He also stunk up the Money in the Bank match at WM21. He was so out of place with the other athletic wrestlers that it was nauseating. Kane is the opposite when it comes to the textbook definition of agility. Climbing the ropes and executing a bad clothesline for eight years does not a credible worker make.

 

[henrywang693]

remeber the edge kane matches from 2-3 years ago. It really showed me that Kane can really wrestle. But then again, Edge is just a beast, makes everyone look good

 

[Kasey]

remeber the edge kane matches from 2-3 years ago. It really showed me that Kane can really wrestle. But then again, Edge is just a beast, makes everyone look good

Edge is another guy like Chris Kanyon or DDP in that he actually is ten times better at taking offense than he is at giving it. He makes even the worst of workers look good. This is why WWE is saddling him with Cena to try and cover up Cena's lack of worksmanship. Because of Edge's build and flexibility, when a guy drops a finisher or heavy move on him, it looks way better than when it's dropped on one of the other wrestlers.

 

[xDJx]

i say 6 more months and kane and undertaker will step aside and let the new wrestlers take over the business

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

In fairness to mention of Kane not being agile enough to hold the title... I believe there's somebody such as THE BIG SHOW holding the ECW title, right? And he did hold Heavyweight WWE Gold just a couple years ago... now explain how Big Show is capable of holding a title, yet Kane isn't. Big Show's move-set consists of a head butt, a chop, a leg drop, and a choke-slam. This is not too mention that he's about the slowest thing to ever step foot in the ring (besides a Great Khali or an injured Kevin Nash whose bad knee made it impossible for him to get around in the ring). Even Hulk Hogan can move better than Big Show.

Besides that, Kane's move-set and style actually works well if he's a heel. I'd agree and say that Kane really isn't fit to be a face because faces have to have a certain ability, as you called it, explosiveness. Kane plays the dominant heel very, very well.

And, aside from this, WWE gave Kane heat back-stage at a house show because Kane executed a standing drop kick. WWE does not want Kane to perform agile moves. They told him he may only perform power moves. This is an issue as well, especially since I've seen Kane do a leap-frog and a drop kick, even spring boarding from the ropes inside to the floor outside with a body splash... Kane is capable of more in the ring, but WWE doesn't want him to be more in the ring, whether it's to protect the big guys from injury, or to set the big guys aside from the more athletic guys so when they get in the ring their styles have great contrast, I don't know.

Besides, I remember Kane facing Edge in the finals of the Gold Rush tournament... entertaining. Kane faced Edge at Vengeance, and it was entertaining. Steel Cage Match and a Stretcher match against Edge on Raw, entertaining! Kane had plenty of entertaining matches with Edge last year. Kane also had two good matches against Benoit in '04 at Bad Blood and on Raw with the title on the line. He had a good match against HBK as well at Unforgiven a couple years back in '04.

Bottom lining it, Kane is still a more capable big man, he just needs to work with the right opponent. Aside from that, Kane's matches against Umaga were half-way decent for big man matches.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

One more thing, while I remembered it... Batista has been the top dog on Smackdown! ever since he debuted there. Batista had an absolutely horrid match with JBL at Great American Bash last year... his match against JBL at Summerslam was no holds barred and still looked tame. Batista returns, and he's looked down right sluggish. He hasn't had a good singles match since he came back. Yet, he's still being pushed in the main event fueds.

Honestly, Kane's as good as Batista. Batista has been sluggish and boring since he came back. His matches against Booker have been mediocre. Again, just an example of how if this guy is championship material, why can't Kane be given the right push?

 

[Edge-number1 fan]

Ok first stop compareing wrestler 2nd Big show is not slow Now RVD that a other story

anyways I see Kane begin on smackdown until he done with WWE I think he really need to trun Heel he better as a Heel have him win the US title maybe the World title down the line but he really should do something both his and edge contracts are up in 2007. i hear

 

[ErkBono23]

learn how to spell and type before debating on this post...

 

[PauLwaLL]

learn how to spell and type before debating on this post...

Well.. I think he knows hot to type since hes pressing the keys, and a lot of people cant spell that great (like me).. Warning for spamming... If your not gonna say anything that has to do with the post, dont say anything at all.

 

[Kasey]

In fairness to mention of Kane not being agile enough to hold the title... I believe there's somebody such as THE BIG SHOW holding the ECW title, right? And he did hold Heavyweight WWE Gold just a couple years ago... now explain how Big Show is capable of holding a title, yet Kane isn't. Big Show's move-set consists of a head butt, a chop, a leg drop, and a choke-slam. This is not too mention that he's about the slowest thing to ever step foot in the ring (besides a Great Khali or an injured Kevin Nash whose bad knee made it impossible for him to get around in the ring). Even Hulk Hogan can move better than Big Show.

Big Show doesn't need to be wearing a belt, either. He can't wrestle his way out of a wet grocery bag. He slows down any match he's involved in to a snail's pace. Kane and Big Show are nothing more than circus attractions when it comes to wrestling. One is big, bald, and has cool pyro. The other is big, slow, and useless.

Besides that, Kane's move-set and style actually works well if he's a heel. I'd agree and say that Kane really isn't fit to be a face because faces have to have a certain ability, as you called it, explosiveness. Kane plays the dominant heel very, very well.

Kane doesn't have nearly enough depth to make it as a credible title holder. He is a lot like Batista when it comes to the types of matches he can wrestle. All high impact with no serious cohesiveness or well-set pace to the match. It's usually just a series of strung together moves that culminates in a gimmie finisher.

And, aside from this, WWE gave Kane heat back-stage at a house show because Kane executed a standing drop kick. WWE does not want Kane to perform agile moves. They told him he may only perform power moves. This is an issue as well, especially since I've seen Kane do a leap-frog and a drop kick, even spring boarding from the ropes inside to the floor outside with a body splash... Kane is capable of more in the ring, but WWE doesn't want him to be more in the ring, whether it's to protect the big guys from injury, or to set the big guys aside from the more athletic guys so when they get in the ring their styles have great contrast, I don't know.

This is another example of piss-poor management on the part of the front office with regards to the use of talent. I personally would be much more afraid of an agile, nimble, big man, than one who is perpetually grounded in their offense. For an example of an ideal big man, look at Mike Awesome circa 1999 in ECW. He was a 280 pounder that could fly like a cruiserweight and outpower nearly anyone in the business.

Besides, I remember Kane facing Edge in the finals of the Gold Rush tournament... entertaining. Kane faced Edge at Vengeance, and it was entertaining. Steel Cage Match and a Stretcher match against Edge on Raw, entertaining! Kane had plenty of entertaining matches with Edge last year. Kane also had two good matches against Benoit in '04 at Bad Blood and on Raw with the title on the line. He had a good match against HBK as well at Unforgiven a couple years back in '04.

I've never liked Kane's offense because he's always been too slow. Not methodical, so don't get me wrong. Just slow. Taste is subjective as to whether or not any of his encounters are entertaining, but I don't like watching a wrestler so slow that he can get passed by an old lady on her walker. I couldn't stand his wrestling since his days as the Fake Diesel and as Isaac Yankem.

Bottom lining it, Kane is still a more capable big man, he just needs to work with the right opponent. Aside from that, Kane's matches against Umaga were half-way decent for big man matches.

Umaga is a tub of guts, but that son of a bitch can move with a purpose. His gimmick is recycled tripe, but it doesn't matter because he moves with speed, power, and agility. Kane needs to be reconfigured physically because what he's done so far hasn't helped to establish him in the upper pantheon of WWE alumni. He has a gimmick that's been over since 1997. Now if only the in-ring action could match that in quality.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

Looks like we won't have to hear about Kane anymore. I won't say anything, but once Friday night's over, you'll know what I mean. Kane's push on Smackdown! is over before it started and will ultimately lead to another Kane v. Taker match at Mania where Kane will job.

 

[henrywang693]

Looks like we won't have to hear about Kane anymore. I won't say anything, but once Friday night's over, you'll know what I mean. Kane's push on Smackdown! is over before it started and will ultimately lead to another Kane v. Taker match at Mania where Kane will job.

You know that really pisses the hell out of me. I can not watch another Kane Undertaker match, where Kane loses. With all due respect to the Undertaker, Kane derserves a lot more in this industry. He should not have to job to Taker to protect his damn streak. The man has serious talent, if it was only used in the right manner. The man can wrestle alot more than the likes of a Batista, whose moveset consists of a series of spine busters and a powerbomb. Kane really should be considered for the Heavyweight title immediately.

 

[Chain Gang MVP]

It is possible, however, that WWE plans on Kane being the man to end Umaga's undefeated streak at Cyber Sunday(chances are he is going to win the poll).

 

[henrywang693]

Umaga...I hate that guy with a passion. I hope Kane wins

 

[Edge-number1 fan]

if Kane beat Umaga then Kane a bigger ego snob then i though mean he should be putting wrestler over like HHH should be doing

 

[Kasey]

Looks like we won't have to hear about Kane anymore. I won't say anything, but once Friday night's over, you'll know what I mean. Kane's push on Smackdown! is over before it started and will ultimately lead to another Kane v. Taker match at Mania where Kane will job.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. They pass him over time and time again even though his gimmick has been in the fan's hearts for years. Imagine if Kane had his gimmick and the ability of Brock Lesnar in terms of speed, moves, agility, and creativity in the ring. That would be a combination that would outdraw the Undertaker on his best day. For years, this is what I prayed they would try to do with Kane, but they haven't.

 

[Dan1506]

Kasey i wana ask you somthing, you do admit that The undertaker is a very good wrestler right? I know you don't like people who hide behind their gimmicks however for his age and height he still puts on great matches and the fact that he can still brawl with Kurt angle is awsome. Also Dont forget that The undertaker has a downside because of his gimmick, certain moves would look stupid if he did them.
My best wrestlers are Kane and Taker, and i hate how BOTH of them are being mis used in such a terrible way, my wish is to have both Kane and taker with the World titles at the same time.
And People like Kane and taker need to go off with a bang, not people who fadded away.