Jerry Lawler Making Fat Jokes

[Constipated Badger Bottom]

Yeah like other people had said Vickie is a Heel and Lawler is a face and Heel's and Face's don't like eachother so they insult eachother and so on, been happening since pro wrestling was created

And I can gaurantee if CM Punk was makeing jokes about Vickie's weight then it would be "The Best Promo Ever"

 

[Twiztid Rodimus]

Its like a Ugly chick picking on Kim Kardashian, It makes NO sense.

Lawler is fat, always has been, he had facial surgery to de-age himself, has hair plugs, so WHY, would he have the nerve to speak on Vickie. And yes, I know its a character, but it makes NO SENSE.

Having Lay cool bash Mickie, albeit dumb since she is still sexy as hell, at least made sense since they themselves are small.

I myself, have NEVER, been a fan of lawler, in ring, OR, as a commentator. When he left for being booty whipped over them firing Stacey Carter, I LOVED the commentary, Just as long as the ''King'' was gone.

He hasn't said a thing funny in my view in over a decade, and not much before that. The fat jokes are immature, and flat out stupid. ''Shes a heel and hes a face'' is a IRRELEVANT comment, JR did NOT make fat jokes about female wrestlers, and he's been a face for 99% of his wwe tenure. (That shitty time of him as a heel was forgettable)

 

[LFC till i die]

Its time they stop making fat jokes. Lawler isn't the only person who makes jokes towards Vicky about her weight. I mean the worst thing you could say to a woman is call her fat or make a nasty comment about her weight. Considering its a PG product and their doing that anti bullying campaign, shit like this needs to stop. Yea the jokes are funny at times but its not right. God knows what Vicky feels like when shes the subject of this abuse. I respect her a lot more become if someone were to say to me half the things Lawler says to Vicky, id knock them out so bad they'd be eating their meals through A straw.

 

[Good Golly It's Ollie]

It's unfortunate, but remember:

Disproportionate Retribution Works in the Face's Favour

What I mean is, in terms of kayfabe, Vickie's an acceptable target because she is a heel. Lawler and Kharma are not because they are faces.

danny_boy, I don't think Punk would sink to solely relying on fat jokes in promos. I wouldn't put it past him to use them (as a heel that is), he's known for doing that on the indies a hell of a lot more than what he's done in WWE, but Punk generally is better than that and most of us are mature enough that we would say it was a shit promo if it purely consisted of fat jokes.

But if it's in the interest of kayfabe, I believe the double standard should be reversed: Heels can make insulting jokes, but faces shouldn't do it so much. This is because heels will be punished for their 'crimes', whereas faces should be role models. If WWE had more sense, Vickie would be calling Lawler out-of-shape instead.

 

[Zangash]

I find it funny how Jerry, with his gut sticking out, his bugs bunny teeth (They bother me so much), and his hair plugs can make comments about ANYONE'S appearance. Especially calling them fat. Face or not, it's just ******ed.

He's the only guy I find more annoying on commentary than Booker T. He always has these terrible jokes to tell. One time he even cut a promo where he used a Yo mama joke that me and my friends used to use in 5th grade. Vickie is so fat that when God said let there be light he told her to move? That's something 10-11 year old kids would find funny. When he said that I facepalmed HARD. It was even worse cuz he didn't even tell the joke right. -_-

And him and Booker on commentary is just awful... I remember Booker calling the Alabama slam a sidewalk slam, only so Cole could correct them, and then they double teamed against Cole and argued with him, even though Cole was clearly right. Cole might be a douche, but at least he doesn't suck at his job...

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I don't like the jokes for a number of reasons:

From a moral and business perspective imagine if a 12 old kid goes to school and picks on a fat girl. No good can come of this so many bad things can happen and the WWE may be held as the scapegoat (I.e. The kid gets in trouble, the girl develops an eating disorder or even worse she kills herself)

From a creativity perspective it is a lazy attempt at humor. Vickie has so many other qualities that can be picked apart. Lawler does not have to go to her weight.

Finally from a legacy perspective Lawler and WWE would not dream of saying these things if Eddie were still alive.

 

[king_kanyon]

Love Jerry Lawler the King And Kanyon Is From Lawler but come on cause you've never been the guy with the six pack even in you'r hay days I think their was at least a point in Vickies Life were she was fit and looking real good because if she was my wife and I was as old as her with her new look I'd Be Happy. But Come on Lawler just stand down. Is this Ironic By the WWE Or What The No Bully Campaign But They Bully Vicky Verbolly Every Week on Raw And Smackdown.

 

[James]

I hate everything King says nowadays because it is old and stale. He does not even do his job anymore, he is just there for the nostalgia in my opinion. He ribs on Cole who does an absolute better job than him day in and day out and gives this woman crap.

Vickie went from fit, to an fat widow, and show she is back and better than ever. For some reason I always saw something in her but now that she has lost all the weight again if I had the chance then I would not hesitate to take her.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I think the fat jokes need to stop for a variety of reasons.

While I sometimes hate how obssessed we've become as a society with political correctness, making fun of people because of their weight is something that shouldn't be tolerated. You don't hear Lawler making jokes about Mark Henry, even though he's also gotta ton of muscle, or Big Show. The fat jokes are juvenile, potentially hurtful to viewers that're watching and the whole concept of fat people jokes is extremely dated.

On top of all that, in Vickie's case, they're not even remotely accurate or funny. They may have been funny back in the 50s when some of those jokes Lawler tells were first told but, as I said, it's a concept that's very very outdated. Vickie is in her early 30s, she's has 2 daughters and she's lost a lot of weight. She might not exactly be in Kelly Kelly's league, but then again who is right, but she looks good and she looks healthy. I think anybody with any common sense would have to acknowledge that Vickie looks pretty good overall and she's worked her ass off, seriously no pun is intended with that comment, and she's gotten herself into shape the old fashioned way by killing herself in the gym and watching what she eats.

I know that Vickie is a good sport about it and has no problems with the jokes, she might even get a kick out of them herself. It's just that, as a viewer, it's one of the things that just makes me wish Jerry Lawler would just shut the hell up. If you don't have anything that's worth saying, don't just needlessly flap your mouth just for the sake of making noise.

 

[martymcfly]

I just wanted to say that I made a post about this a while ago in the general complaint thread, pointing out the hypocricy of King stating how bad the Bellas are for their fat jokes on Kharma, and then King making them week after week on Vickie. Whether it's King doing it, or Vince telling him to do it, it is certainly giving mixed messages. Especially in light of this whole "antibullying" campaign.

I put my post in the general complaint thread because I didn't think there would be enough interest to make it its own thread, and when no one commented on my post, I figured no one else was really bothered by this. But after seeing a thread devoted to it and a number of folks feeling the same way I do, I think it's great that I'm not alone in thinking the fat jokes have gone too far and are sending mixed messages.

 

[Maddog Lionheart]

Am I the only one that gets, legitimately upset when I hear this guy talk about Vickie Guerrero?

It's constant "Fat Jokes" from a guy who isn't exactly the poster of fitness. I also find it quite counterproductive to be running a "Be A Star" anti-bullying campaign and then have your very own announcers making fat jokes.

He's getting on my nerves as of late.

I see what you mean. It's very ironic. But I think they allow him to do that because he's a face annoucner. The crowd hates Vickie and he just tries to pander to them. I do get what you're saying.

 

[Mac Attack]

Jerry Lawler in the words of Chris Jericho can simply be described as hypocrite. He isn't the skinniest thing in the world now is he. Vickie Guerrero is showing that with hard work you can actually become in today's eyes acceptable. I think he should stop wearing those skin tight shirts and instead focus on commentating instead of making someone feel bad because of their weight. (Which has improved.) I can't wait for the day that Guererro wins the Divas title which one day will happen.

 

[brain51983]

I get what everyone is saying, but this is no different than if an actor in a movie was making fat jokes, but is also a promoter for being in a anti-bullying campaign. Lawler is just playing the part. I don't agree with what WWE is doing by having him say what he is, but I know it's just "acting".

I understand that he is just making a joke, but make a joke and then move on. Call the match, don't dwell on her weight because then the product suffers. I agree that he shouldn't make jokes in the first place but that is the double standard in the WWE. When it comes to men who are overweight it is not a big deal, but if a diva has just a few extra pounds on her suddenly she is extremely fat and desperately needs to lose weight.

I remember them bashing on Mickie James about her weight as well, oh and Molly Holly too.

 

[RavenChaos21]

I understand that he is just making a joke, but make a joke and then move on. Call the match, don't dwell on her weight because then the product suffers. I agree that he shouldn't make jokes in the first place but that is the double standard in the WWE. When it comes to men who are overweight it is not a big deal, but if a diva has just a few extra pounds on her suddenly she is extremely fat and desperately needs to lose weight.

 

[Kofi/ZigglerClassic]

They really should have Lawler stop with Vickie fat jokes especially since Vickie is looking slim and HOT. Everytime he makes those comments it's making him look like a complete idiot.

 

[MelinaFanRules]

I feel no announcer should be making any coments about anyone being fat he should look in the mirror before talking about anyone else

 

[FSWWE]

I have no problem of the face commentator mock the heel person!!
It is his job, and since I'm a cold heart son of a ***** I really laugh with his jokes, and I don't care if fat people gets offended...

Why do you have to bitch about everything?
We all know Vickie is a heel, he shouldn't worry about his feelings and it his a work, Vickie isn't that fat anymore...
He will eventually stop, but as far as I see some are very good and people that are complaining must be fat too, go to a gym and lose weight, it is better than be sat at the computer eating and replying to every kind of forums.

 

[#hamler]

Hey look, more people complaining about something that doesn't matter... you people look for an edgier product, and when someone makes a funny you get mad. Lulz.

I have no problem of the face commentator mock the heel person!!

I like this. Jerry Lawler is obviously a face commentator. Vickie gains so much heat she makes guys like Miz look obsolete. She's a heel. It’s natural for the face to make the heel look like a total dumbass (The Rock and John Cena are really good at doing this). I have absolutely no problem with Jerry Lawler making his jokes. They're hilarious. It's not like it's a big deal. Vickie probably knows what he's saying and they might even be real close friends in the back, who knows? It's just for a cheap quick laugh and there is nothing wrong that.

 

[Hazardous]

oh no! He called Vickie fat?

Seriously now.. You're going to use the "Anti-Bullying Campaign" as your basis? The whole thing is a joke anyway. The WWE is only doing it to appeal to parents to allow more kids to watch. It makes Linda look better, and its a way of making up for Cena's gay jokes, as well as Cole calling Josh Mathews a "******" on Twitter.
Yeah, King is fat, but you know what? Go back and watch stuff from way back.. King use to make fun of people who never won a world title, neither had he. He used to make fun of people who would hide in the Royal Rumble, or do something cowardly.. He hid under the ring.
All those are when he was a Heel, now that he's a face, he HAS to make fun of the Heels. So he does. Calls Cole a geek, and Vickie a pig.
Do you get mad at Cole for making fun of Daniel Bryan for his life choices?
I think you people are just a little too sensitive. They do have that warning before RAW starts saying "The following Program may not be suitable for all viewers" So if you get offended, don't watch! The warning is right there, so anything you get offended by within that program, is your own fault.

 

[iwinulose]

lol it might be a lil annoying but i just dont care, vickie is a very annoying person and her anger when being called fat is also funny lol. the antibullying thing is great and all but kids are always going to be mean whether you tell them not to or not, its the parents responsibility to teach their own kids right from wrong and what not, so you cant really blame the wwe for it. plus fat jokes, oh no, that just as bad as swearing on live tv (RAW) oh no omg *insert shocked face*. sorry but thats the truth.

 

[martymcfly]

With regard to the last few posts, I can't speak for people who posted earlier in the thread, but I don't think it's so much that we as individuals are personally offended by fat jokes. At least, I'm not. However, my personal issue with it is:

1. A face commentator is making fun of a heel person with a series of fat jokes. Like it or not, faces get emulated by kids. Like it or not, there are some kids who will hear those jokes, think they are funny, and use them or similar jokes against other kids at school for a laugh.

2. A face commentator, making fun of someone's weight, whether that person is a heel or not, is not in line with their anti-bullying campaign. In fact, it is the exact opposite. Even worse is that when Jerry does it during commentary, he is effectively doing it in a manner where he is making fun of an individual because she is "different" than the norm, and doing it in a manner in which she cannot defend herself. If the WWE wants to promote anti-bullying, then they really should not at the same time have someone verbally making fun of someone's weight. That does count as bullying, so this is hypocritical.

3. Even more hypocritical is the fact that Jerry and everyone acted disgusted when the Bella twins made fun of Kharma's weight, stating how inappropriate it was. Then the next few weeks he does the exact same thing with Vickie. Mixed messages here.

Some of you also state that it's ok because Jerry is a face and Vickie a heel, so it's ok to insult a heel. Ok...but again, mixed messages. It's like saying that if you are a kid and there's someone you don't like, it's ok to make fat jokes at their expense. And in this case, it's ok for a guy to insult a woman with respect to her weight. Let's face it, from a very young age, women and girls are given the message that unless you are thin and modelesque, there is something wrong with you. Maybe things have changed since I went to school, but overweight boys and girls (especially girls) were often made fun of, sadly. In society (or at least American society) there's also the general message that it's ok for men to be overweight, but overweight women are repulsive, and meant to be ridiculed and scorned. Jerry insulting Vickie every week encourages that: it gives the message to young girls that being fat is terrible, and to guys that it is ok to insult women just because they are overweight.

Yes, some of you (such as iwinulouse) state something along the lines of: "its the parents responsibility to teach their own kids right from wrong and what not, so you cant really blame the wwe for it" absolutely correct, but you know what? sadly, a lot of parents don't. And a lot of parents can't follow their kids around all the time so they don't know how they act on the playground. So why give the kids someone to emulate, in Jerry constantly insulting someone who is overweight? And I know some people will think in response "No one is going to start being mean and insulting to women just because Jerry in the WWE does it" and you could be right. But even so, why reinforce the idea that it is ok?

Again, in the end, I am not personally offended by the fat jokes against Vickie. I think they are in poor taste and I don't think they add anything whatsoever, but if they don't stop, so be it. But in the end, my point is that If the WWE truly wants to be a PG show and take a stand against bullying, then they need to pull the plug on these fat jokes because they are giving off mixed messages and behaving hypocritically.

 

[H33LTurn]

You just cant make wrestling anti-bullying since conflict lies at the heart of the business. I dont think Lawler's comments on RAW are anything to get upset about. Vickie probably put on some weight for the role. Shes a heel, and Lawler is helping her get any amount of heat she can get. The reason he opposed to Kharma being called fat is because shes a face. Its like if you have a friend who is being teased for being ugly you would stick up for him, but if you see a deuchbag getting called ugly then you wouldnt do a damn thing about it. Its obvious that WWE was forced into being part of these anti-harassment organizations. The only reason they teamed with GLAAD was because Cena continuously called Justin Gabriel gay on TV and people noticed. The only reason they started Be A Star was to put over Randy Orton's new movie.

 

[The Duke]

You people do know that isn't Jerry Lawler doing that because he wants to right? You do understand that Vincent Kennedy McMahon tells them what to say essentially? He wants them to harp on her weight/annoyingness/life.

Don't hate Lawler for completely ignoring the whole Anti Bullying thing. Blame Vince. What he wants, he gets. But for real people, it's SCRIPTED!

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

You people do know that isn't Jerry Lawler doing that because he wants to right? You do understand that Vincent Kennedy McMahon tells them what to say essentially? He wants them to harp on her weight/annoyingness/life.

Don't hate Lawler for completely ignoring the whole Anti Bullying thing. Blame Vince. What he wants, he gets. But for real people, it's SCRIPTED!

This man speaks the truth.

How often do we read about Vince screaming into the ear of an announcer? Vince is completely in control of what's being said out there. Lawler definitely steps over the line, but it really isn't his fault. If Vince had a problem with what Jerry was saying, he would have stopped him from doing so a long time ago.

 

[ipswichicon80]

Ok first off we all know Lawler is instructed to do these jokes by Vince.
I do have a problem with this. I personally feel the way WWE has treated Vickie has been nothing short of a disgrace.
She has gone from an awful on screen performer to probably the most hated heel in the WWE today(sad that a manager get's more heat than wrestler's but true) she has worked very hard to do this. Her rewards for her hard work? Remember when she temporarily left to spend more time with her children? This so angered Vince he sent Edge out to rip her to pieces. Again Vince ordered Vickie to be humiliated,because she wanted to spend more time with her(fatherless) children. I lost alot of respect for Adam Copeland that day.
Also remember when both Cena and Lawler were making fat jokes about her? The HEEL Dolph Ziggler stepped in to stick up for the bullied Vickie.Faces are supposed to stick up for victims and right injustices not heels. It makes no sense for a face to verbally bully someone constantly,they are meant to be the good guys remember?
The only amusing thing about Lawler's jokes are he sits there with his gut hanging over his trousers making fat jokes about someone who's in better shape then he's been in for 20 years.
Actually,I stand corrected, it's not amusing it's just sad.