Jericho VS Triple H - Who's the better all round Wrestler?

[Luten]

Recently it has been reported that Jericho was pretty pissed when Triple H said live on Raw that Jericho was never 'The Guy' - I'm a huge Jericho fan, and to be fair Triple H was right. However, I also don't view Triple H as ever being 'The Guy' either.

Yes, Triple H has probably put more asses in seats, but who is the better all round worker/wrestler/entertainer? - My vote is with Jericho.

Triple H has a lot to be thankful for of Jericho. The fact that Jericho wasn't mentioned once (least to my knowledge) in the recent title unification storyline makes me a little bit mad to put it lightly.

It takes two to tango, and although the main event of Wrestlemania 18 wasn't exactly a masterpiece Triple H also has to accept responsibility for that. You can blame Hogan vs Rock stealing the show all you like, but saying Jericho was never 'The Guy' just doesn't sit right.

Has Jericho ever beat Triple H one on one clean? - I don't think so. And while in a scripted world wins and losses don't necessarily matter, Triple H has made, and continues to make money off Jericho.

Jericho comes back and jobs for the future of the business, putting over the likes of Fandango.

Triple H Semi-hangs up the boots, but has to defeat Punk in the midst of 'the summer of punk' and recently pedigree Orton (the God damn WWE champion!) in the middle of the ring.

What is it that makes the better wrestler? Jericho is more well travelled, and can adapt his style to always bring out the best in whatever style his opponent has to offer. He makes himself and his opponent look good. Which is rule 1 in the wrestling book.

Whether it's Jericho vs Rey, or Jericho vs Big Show, you are led to believe the match could go either way.

Triple H vs Rey or Big Show? - it doesn't make a difference. Straight away you get the feeling that Triple H only gets back in that ring to make himself look good. And is more likely to come out with the win.

Don't get me wrong, I like Triple H, I like Jericho. But if Triple H is going to start making lists of elite superstars, I will always rank Jericho an overall higher calibre of superstar.

Merry Christmas.

 

[Rvdrvd]

Unquestionably Jericho is better at every aspect of wrestling. The only reason HHH is where he is, is because he's fuck!ng Princess McMahon. HHH should have never gotten past "jobber to champions" status.

The amount of TV time and title reigns he's had is a joke. He's below average in the ring and a human sleeping pill on the mic. The only reason Jericho was never the man is because HHH never let anyone else on camera.

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Jericho was never "The Guy". HHH was "The Guy" from 2002-2005 after Rock/Austin left.
Also Jericho putting over Fandango did nothing for Fandango and Jericho was the one who lost credibility. Putting over EVERYONE constantly doesn't do any good. If Triple H was constantly putting people over, would it matter as much? When HHH put over people they became stars like Orton, Benoit, Batista,etc.
Also some of you guys take scripted wrestling storyline promos too seriously. That promo was a typical heel promo.
Also, HHH is the better all around wrestler in my opinion.

 

[HellBoundPower]

I would say that Jericho is better all around on the mic and in the ring. Triple H has him on size and look though, as well as connections. Jericho is one of the best performers in the history of the business in my opinion. His mic skills are pretty far above Triple H's, and he's able to adapt to different opponents and different situations better. Triple H is bigger and stronger, which makes him seem like more of a threat, but Jericho has beaten a who's who list of Superstars, including Triple H. Jericho gets the nod from me, though Triple H was always very good.

 

[JoeyJoeJoe]

I doubt there's any heat between Triple H and Jericho. Jericho knows how to play up the right angles in social media to make something seem big. Triple H, likewise, knows how to start tongues wagging by taking what seems to be a cheap shot.

It's kayfabe, man. Modern day kayfabe.

 

[James]

What kind of a question is this?

The GOAT wrestler is Shawn Michaels and the only wrestler that comes anywhere to being close is Chris Jericho.

Jericho is an all around athlete as well as wrestler.

Hunter is just a wrestler.

Jericho could wrestle circles around Hunter with his eyes closed. Are we forgetting that he's one of the last students to be trained in the infamous dungeon?

Hunter is average and nothing more to be honest, thus what he does is put people who are better than him down.

Sure he can tell a story but like I said, he's average.

I had more to say but I'll come back to it if I remember.

 

[Da Solo]

Y2J is the better wrestler/superstar. In-ring wise, the only thing HHH really has that puts him apart from the rest is his in-ring psychology, but even then Jericho's sense is just as good (if not better), and his moveset is not nearly up to par with Y2J.

As for the whole argument, neither of them were ever the guy. Jericho fluctuated between upper midcard and main eventing for a good portion of his career, and HHH has ALWAYS played junior varsity to guys like Rock, Austin, Lesnar, Cena and HBK in terms of who is on top of the card. I wouldn't put it past Jericho to be a least a little bitter about the comment just based off pure human emotion (how's someone who was never the guy going to tell someone else that he wasn't either?), but he really wasn't ever THE GUY. Regardless, he is better than HHH though in my opinion.

 

[Da Solo]

Jericho was never "The Guy". HHH was "The Guy" from 2002-2005 after Rock/Austin left.

Lesnar. Goldberg. Taker. The beginnings of Cena and Batista. HHH really wasn't the guy.

 

[Vance Ryan]

Lesnar. Goldberg. Taker. The beginnings of Cena and Batista. HHH really wasn't the guy.

I agree and jim cornette said it best "Triple H is the guy who works with the guy who is making the money" the only case that can be made for HHH might be 2004 maybe. but 2002-Lesnar ,Hogan,Rock,Stone cold,HBK,Taker. 2003-Lesnar, angle,goldberg and taker. 2004-is such a toss up to me i might give HHH the nod that year he was the only established one at the time its no question Cena and batista were coming up. orton failed when he lost to HHH, no disrespect to them but beniot losing the title was never really the center peice again and even then it was still all about HHH. Guerrero quit wanting to be the guy after about 3 monthes with the title.

 

[Kidpolean]

Lesnar. Goldberg. Taker. The beginnings of Cena and Batista. HHH really wasn't the guy.

Come on now..dont start lying. Taker and Lesnar were smackdown guys which is the B-show, Goldberg was never EVER the guy in the WWE, Cena and Batista didn't even win world titles until 2005...your comment makes no sense. HHH clearly got the most tv time out of everybody on the roster during this time and was booked as the top guy.

Jericho is obviously the better wrestler but HHH has the greater legacy. They are both all time greats imo. This isn't really a good comparison..its kind of like saying who is better HBK or Cena. They were good for different reasons and there careers are complete opposites.

 

[Da Solo]

Come on now..dont start lying. Taker and Lesnar were smackdown guys which is the B-show,

Actually, during the Ruthless Aggression era (i.e. the one we're talking about), Smackdown was pretty much on equal footing with Raw, and at many times took priority. Why do you think they put Brock on Smackdown and gave him the WWE title as opposed to leaving it on Raw with HHH and giving him the WHC instead? Plus, Lesnar was built to be the guy undeniably, anyone will tell you. Taker filled the transitional period after Brock left and before Cena/Batista became main eventers. HHH couldn't have been because that was the only year where he wasn't all over the WHC picture.

Goldberg was never EVER the guy in the WWE,

Debatable. However, he certainly seemed to be much morre of a priority than Trips at the moment: immediately feuded with Rock, immediately given a title run, teased being Rumble winner and booked in mega-match with Lesnar. HHH was in the middle of his burial run through the Raw roster at this point, way too busy to carry the show.

Cena and Batista didn't even win world titles until 2005...your comment makes no sense.

Actually, the time period being discussed here is 2002-2005, and I'm pretty sure 2005 is in that category. Cena got his first world title in 2005 and held it for the rest of the year. Batista won his WHC off HHH in 2005 and Trips wasn't seen for almost the remainder of the year. Both were in their beginning stages to be THE GUY (trying to follow the Rock/Austin formula of having 2 top guys). So on the contrary, your rebuttal makes no sense.

HHH clearly got the most tv time out of everybody on the roster during this time and was booked as the top guy.
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Nope. First off, I guarantee if you took an official count of the TV time each superstar received (which no one can or will), he wouldn't outdo Angle, Lesnar, HBK or even Cena considering he was out most of 2005 anyway. Second, how can he be the top guy during that period when WM18 was clearly centered around Rock/Hogan (and his main event was shitted on because of it), WM19 was headlined by Lesnar and WM XX and XXI were for him to do jobs to superstars getting bigger pushes? Clearly the top guy would have had a WM for himself.

 

[L@RISANO]

Tbh, both HHH and Y2J were never really "the ONE" which Jericho himself alluded to in his tweet after HHH's comment(which was obviously a scripted promo work).

HHH was always a heel guy most of the time especially around the time 'the Rock' left. To claim that he was the "ONE" is not right,lMO, as there were other top guys on both RAW and SmackDown at the time, and that was the height of the Brand Extension, where both shows contained top class talent( Kurt Angle,Brock Lesnar,Undertaker, Eddie Guerrero on SD and RAW had the likes of Benoit,Jericho,Edge and HBK).

Never was HHH the actual 'Face' of the company, however, one could say he was and has been Heel no.1 everytime his character is booked as such...

 

[Airehk]

Chris Jericho is my all time favourite wrestler tied in first place with Stone Cold Steve Austin. Chris Jericho was never "the guy" but he sure as hell was the closest to being the main guy without ever achieving it. I say if Triple H never married Steph, and Rock and Austin we're gone, Jericho would be the man. He could talk, he had charisma, he had a following, he could hold his own in the ring with anyone, he had good looks, he had signature moves that weren't ever associated with others. He was tuley unique.

No, he wasn't the guy. Was Triple H? On a technicality, sure. He did rule Raw, but not because he was so damn amazing, it was politics. Even then, John Cena was really the man because once Cena was drafted to Raw, he took what spotlight Triple H had and ran with it. Triple H was just interim of what to do between Austin and Rock taking off and Cena being fully ready.

When it comes to who the A-List guys are, the order is:
1. Hogan
2. Hart
3. Michaels
4. Austin
5. Rock
6. Cena

 

[Rvdrvd]

In my irrelevant opinion the top "Total Package" guys of my lifetime are Randy Savage, Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Ric Flair and Brett Hart.

I know most everyone loves Austin and the Rock, but for me they were both a product of their mic skills and a cut under in the ring, I can only watch punches and kicks for so long. The six I mentioned above were gold in the ring and on the mic. Austin might have been better if the WWFE had let him work but the only great matches I ever saw him in were when he had a superior worker like Brett Hart to work with him.

HHH is below average both on the mic and in the ring. He's competent, but in a world where he isn't married to Princess McMahon he's just a journeyman. One word to describe him is Boring. Another is Nepotism. I'd rather watch Benoit, Lance Storm, Raven or countless others than HHH any day.

 

[Odisho]

The truth is their BOTH greats. But if triple H ever said he was better than jericho i would text bret hart to get a good laugh.(unfortunately i don't have Brets number. )
Even though im not that big on Jericho, he is far better than HHH. Jericho right now is better than HHH in his prime. His match with RVD prooved Jericho(and RVD) cans still go.

Like bret hart said, triple h isn't in the list of top 1000 wrestlers. If it were "WWE" wrestlers though, its a different story.

 

[Kidpolean]

Da Solo-

Ok I see I have to educate you...the period we are discussing is 2002-2005. So we are including the entire 2005. I happen to own every PPV DVD from this time period. I went through this pretty fast so the numbers may be off a little but its still clear who the man was.

HHH won 2002 royal rumble

HHH Main evented WM in 2002, 2004, and 2005..thats 3 of the 4 years we are discussing

During these four years...HHH Main evented a total of 21 PPV's...Taker is second with 10 PPV main events (including rumble) and Lesnar is 3rd with 9 PPV main events...If this isnt the resume of a "TOP GUY" than I dont know what is. I dont think anyone, besides Hogan and maybe Cena, has ever dominated a four year span as much as HHH did from 2002-2005.

So How the hell was he not the top guy?

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Actually, the time period being discussed here is 2002-2005, and I'm pretty sure 2005 is in that category. Cena got his first world title in 2005 and held it for the rest of the year. Batista won his WHC off HHH in 2005 and Trips wasn't seen for almost the remainder of the year. Both were in their beginning stages to be THE GUY (trying to follow the Rock/Austin formula of having 2 top guys). So on the contrary, your rebuttal makes no sense.

Nope. First off, I guarantee if you took an official count of the TV time each superstar received (which no one can or will), he wouldn't outdo Angle, Lesnar, HBK or even Cena considering he was out most of 2005 anyway.

No. The time period being discussed here is from Wrestlemania 18 to Wrestlemania 21. HHH competed in 24 World Heavyweight Title matches of (RAW) the flagship show of the company during that time period. Thats the definition of a top guy.

 

[Kris Benwa]

I'm a huge fan of both but Jericho takes it pretty easily in every way except maybe ring psychology. I think Triple H is good on the mic and in the ring but Y2J is just better at both. I would say Triple H was the guy for a bit while Jericho never touched it

 

[Last Man Standing]

For me?... Triple H easily.

While I'm a huge Jericho fan I can also admit he can be sloppy at times in the ring. His face promos haven't changed in 15 years. And his constant on again/off again returns have grown stale to say the least.

Triple H is entertaining as a face or a heel. Funny or hated he makes it work. And his in-ring psychology is better than most. There's a reason you always hear legends like Race, Flair, & Taker praise Triple H.

The notion Triple H only received a push is due to his marriage shows the lack of knowledge many fans really have. Yet they spew out constant nonsense like it's a fact. Comical really.

 

[H33LTurn]

I'm surprised that this is even a question. In the ring Jericho can run circles around Triple H. As far as putting asses in seats, I also think Jericho takes the cake. Triple H was never "the guy", despite being with the WWE during the attitude era. I find it amusing Hunter took that shot at Jericho when he himself knows he lived in Shawn Micheals' shadow during DX's beginning. Triple H also took a back seat to Austin, Rock, Mankind, and Undertaker during the attitude era. He had a couple good years during the early 2000's, but he was never the company's top star. Compare that with Jericho who since his debut has stolen the show, set trends, and had a legendary undisputed champion run. In the end Jericho has contributed more to the business.

 

[Kamala316]

I agree 100% with H33lturn...Jericho was the better performer. Even with the politics in WCW, Jericho went out and created a cult following for himself with the tme he was given. His WWF/E debut with the Rock was one of the best of all time.

 

[Aquaman6686]

Come on now..dont start lying. Taker and Lesnar were smackdown guys which is the B-show.

What's your point? They were bigger stars than Triple H at the time, the brand they were on is completely irrelevant. Plus, at the time SmackDown was a far superior show anyway. SmackDown was much, MUCH better than RAW nine out of ten weeks for the first several years of the Brand Extension. In every way that mattered, until 2009, RAW was the B-show.

Triple H was one of the top stars on his show, and Taker and Lesnar were the top stars on theirs, but Taker and Lesnar were undeniably bigger stars than Triple H was at the time. And this is coming from a big Triple H fan.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Triple H was one of the best wrestlers in the world for a short period of time. Jericho never has been.

People overrated pretty much everything Jericho does. He's still very good at most things, but he's never been the total package. Triple H could almost be considered underrated because he has such a terrible reputation amongst us internet losers.
Triple H, with ease.

 

[LBGetBack]

Jericho was never "The Guy". HHH was "The Guy" from 2002-2005 after Rock/Austin left.
Also Jericho putting over Fandango did nothing for Fandango and Jericho was the one who lost credibility. Putting over EVERYONE constantly doesn't do any good. If Triple H was constantly putting people over, would it matter as much? When HHH put over people they became stars like Orton, Benoit, Batista,etc.
Also some of you guys take scripted wrestling storyline promos too seriously. That promo was a typical heel promo.
Also, HHH is the better all around wrestler in my opinion.

Jericho could've been "the guy". In 2000-2001, his popularity was rivaling The Rock's. He wasn't there, but he wasn't far behind either. WWF never gave him the ball. They turned him into a whiny, pussy, weak heel transition champion.

If they kept him face and had him beat The Rock in a face-face match, and then had a returning HEEL HHH actually put Jericho over for once? Jericho would've been "the guy". The fans wanted him to be the guy, his performances on the mic and in the ring were top notch.....he was there. Give him the ball!

Instead they turned him into Stephanie's bitch, and had HHH beat him. Awful.

 

[Kidpolean]

What's your point? They were bigger stars than Triple H at the time, the brand they were on is completely irrelevant. Plus, at the time SmackDown was a far superior show anyway. SmackDown was much, MUCH better than RAW nine out of ten weeks for the first several years of the Brand Extension. In every way that mattered, until 2009, RAW was the B-show.

Triple H was one of the top stars on his show, and Taker and Lesnar were the top stars on theirs, but Taker and Lesnar were undeniably bigger stars than Triple H was at the time. And this is coming from a big Triple H fan.

Read through all posts before you make your own post...I already explained what my point was.

1. HHH main evented more ppv's than any other wrestler during this time period. He main evented 21 ppv's, Taker and Lesnar COMBINED only main evented 19 ppv's.

2 HHH won the 2002 royal rumble and main evented WM18, WM20, and WM21.

3. Smackdown was the main show for 1 of those years and thats 2003. If smackdown was the bigger show how do you explain this... Raw superstars main evented WM 3 out of the 4 years, and Raw superstars main evented Summerslam 3 out of the 4 years. If smackdown was the bigger brand, why was Raw always closing the two biggest shows of the year? Raw was clearly the dominate brand during this time. I dont understand how you guys are even trying to debate this. Everything I said is a FACT.