Jericho the Jobber?

[Radical Canadian Goose]

If I am wrong on anything please correct me as I have not seen Raw in a couple of weeks, just read the results here on wrestlezone. Since Chris Jericho was drafted to Raw he has really not seen the main event. They started a program with him and Miz teaming together, which seems to be going nowhere. Now this week he jobs to Rtruth...WTF...seriously... I now know that he is the new host of an upcoming ABC gameshow, which will probably take up some of his time this summer...My question here is why is Jericho jobbing? And how should he be utilized on Raw? I personally think he should have Swaggers title right now on smackdown and be feuding with the Big Show...Raw has too many superstars on the show and Jericho may be getting lost in translation.

 

[X]

While I do agree with the notion that Chris Jericho should not be losing so often and to so many people, you have to consider why he does this. Jericho knows what it was like to be that midcarder getting shit on every week, he played that role for years in WCW and Jericho doesn't want to pull the same shit on his opponents like guys like Hall or Nash would in WCW, where even when they'd lose to you they'd make you look like shit. It's actually just another reason for me to love the guy, because he's so unselfish and the reason he jobs so much is because it's the role he wants to play. He came back to the wrestling business pretty much to do nothing but put over other people, and I can't give the guy enough kudos for being such a good dude.

Yes, it does seem like Jericho loses too much, but it's what makes him so incredibly valuable. He's one of the very few guys that will have no problem putting over anyone he faces, so the WWE takes advantage of that and if you notice, every time they want to elevate someone from the midcard, they usually go straight to Chris Jericho. What's even better though is that Jericho can still lose a million times but he'll never lose his heat because of how great he is on the stick, he could be on a 20 month losing streak and still sell a feud like there was no way he was going to accept defeat, as in his Wrestlemania match against Edge.

Jericho isn't a "Jobber". He's a class act who actively wants to help other people get over. I don't think it's possible for the WWE to ask for a better employee than Chris Jericho.

 

[MWats]

Jericho as I see it is becoming the new Shawn Michaels. Quickly. He is credible enough to go over Cena for the title tomorrow night, but can still put over a midcarder. He's one of those guys who could lose a million times, but still look like a main eventer. That and he's no Jeff Hardy on the mic. He's rather not shit and he's pretty good in the ring. Jericho can literally play any role in the WWE and be interesting. He can be in a comedy skit with the guest host and put Zack Ryder to shame. He could lose to R-Truth and put Kane's midcard jobber role to shame. He can be a great face, or great heel. While all at the same time be transferrable to the main event. So no, Jericho is not a jobber. Edge on the other hand, is the definition of jabroni. He had better watch out. Evan Bourne might be fucking Lita before you know it.

 

[Goliath Uterus]

I totally agree with xfearbefore, Jericho is able to lose to guys and make them look great while keeping his own credibility, he's the ultimate employee. I dont think we'll ever see Jericho as a "jobber" in the WWE, he's just one of the few ME'rs thats willing to put over mid-card and even NXT rookies just to help them get over. And don't worry about Jericho getting lost in translation on RAW, he'll soon be in another great feud having great matches before ya know it.

 

[Nate DaMac]

There is absolutely no way anyone is going to be able to top that, but I'll give it a try.

Jericho is in a rare class of Superstars that can lose to the lowest of jobbers and rise to Main Event status within a week while being totally believable. Kane and Rey Rey are 2 others I think you could put in this class.

To be completely honest, I was unaware of his losing streak, I just don't really pay attention to win loss records. It's a fake sport, it doesn't really matter to me. Jericho doesn't really gain anything by beating THD or Truth, but they gain quite a bit if they're able to defeat him.

You may be able to classify him as a jobber, but I don't really agree.

 

[vampirek]

Jericho a jobber? Please... I'll like to know what that makes Chavo then.

Jericho is doing what Jericho always does, he has a few months on top of his game and then goes to the midcard and pushes them through. He has done that since day 1 in the WWE. He went against The Rock and then went to midcard. He win the Undisputed Championship then went back to the midcard and so on. It' refreshing to see and please learn the definition of a jobber, Jericho is far from it.

 

[ccotreau1]

Just because Jericho has been on a losing streak as of late does not make him a jobber. If I am not mistaken, majority of jobbers go through their whole careers losing 99% of their matches with the rare win. Take Gillberg for example, IMO he was a jobber, but he held a title for like 14 months because that title was not a big enough title for the WWE to force him to lose it.

 

[Adalam]

Jericho (Does not equal sign, dang keyboard) Jobber. It makes no sense to assume that a guy who is unbeatable on the mic, has great in ring skills, and can add prestige to a major title by holding it long enough to add credibility to the next Champion is a jobber. Jericho is a guy who will put people over. He makes money putting people over. He'll put over the Brooklyn Brawler if he wants to. Jericho is just the kind of guy WWE needs right now to make big time stars. Put Jericho against Evan Bourne and see Bourne's stock rise even more than his win over Edge. That's just the skill Jericho has to make people credible. The 'E puts titles on him so that when he loses later without one, it's considered a massive win by the younger talent.

 

[Brahma Bull]

Maybe we should try to not look at this as Jericho losing, but rather rtruth winning. They said it was an upset and it was just a roll up. They want to make the hart dynasty a legit tag team, and Vince has been trying to find his black main eventer. Jericho is helping to establish people. He won at wrestlemania and even his rookie won nxt, which is another notch in his belt in terms of being the first for something. Now he might be trying to make rtruth main event status. He had a great fued with Rey last year. Who better to get truth over. He'll do his duty and then be back to the main event. I'm guessing he'll win the title off truth, and it will go back and forth till he is needed in the main event.

Besides, I give it a one in seven chance that he'll win the title at this ppv. Go back and watch the backstage segment between hart Jericho and edge again.

Although probably not. Lol

 

[El Rev sXe]

well Jericho just like HBK, HHH, Rey and many others is capable AND willing to make look real good other wrestlers. he is capable of having an epic match with both Chavito and HBK. I mean Jericho IMO made relevant again both the Tag titles and the IC title. I wasn't aware also of his losing streak, that shows how good he really is, cause I'm shocked everytime that Santino, Koslov, Chavito or even Evan Boune wins. and those guys aren't on the same ligue that Jericho is!

 

[BreezyDaProtege]

Jericho is far from a jobber. Honestly since his return in 2008 the WWE has been more interesting in the last two years. He puts over talent, beats the best talent, and entertains all of us parasites lol. He brings that spark back to wrestling when he is in the ring because you dont know who is going to win.

 

[MelodicLullaby]

To consider Chris Jericho a jobber is insulting. Well, to me and a few others, I suspect. He's got considerable talent under him. He's able to switch from the main event to mid card on a dime, as he's been doing for the past few years. His promos are astounding (most jobbers never even get an entrance), his athleticism is up with the best, and he's able to entertain the crowd (even if they act more violently toward him than they should).

Not to mention he's got some looks.

Chris Jericho is just doing as the majority of Superstars that are getting on in their years with the company are doing; passing on the torch. McMahon is obviously showing interest in new up and coming entertainers, and in order for the new to pass on, the old must move on. In order to make an effective push for these new wrestlers, in order for McMahon to get them over with the crowd, these guys have to defeat opponents that the crowd hold in high esteem. This is where people who are willing to give them the push (Kane, Jericho, Undertaker, Triple H, HBK, etc) come into play.

Just because Jericho is being helpful and generous by allowing the younger stars to up and over him doesn't label him as a jobber. Hell, most jobbers are lucky if the crowd even recognizes their name, let alone gets a thread posted ABOUT them being jobbers.

 

[4realpeoples]

Jericho is far from a jobber. So he lost two matches against established stars. He and The Miz didn't win the Unified WWE Tag Team Titles from the Hart Dynasty in their short program. I didn't think they would. And he lost to the United States Champion (and former NWA World Champion, I might add) R-Truth. In all honesty, it isn't all that bad that he lost two matches. You can't win all the time. Truth is very over with the fans and WWE is very high on him. It wouldn't surprise me if R-Truth won one of the World Titles in the next 2 or 3 years.

Back to Jericho... Anyways, let him put over the younger talent who will eventually take his place when his career is over. Jericho's character hasn't lost anything. He's still one of the top heels. The fans are still going to boo him. And he's still going to wrestle a good match. Please, don't disrespect Chris Jericho. He's one of the best in the business today. He'll get his chance in the main event soon.

 

[wushady]

There's no way Jericho is a jobber he's by far one of the biggest stars in the history of pro wrestling. He could win the world or WWE title at any time a jobber like Chavo couldn't. The man has accomplished everything there is to accomplish in the WWE.

I doubt if he didn't want to put Truth or anyone else over he wouldn't have to. He is a true professional and the fact that he is willing to put over future stars proves that and shows how unselfish he is. His lose to Truth wont hurt his legacy one bit, but it does wanders for Truth's current push. WWE needs more veterans like him.

Look at HBK I'm sure if you added his win lose record up he would be below .500. I don't see anyone calling him a jobber.

 

[The Incredible Mr. C]

Jericho's no jobber. He's one of the rare guys who could lose every damn match he has for the rest of his career and still be crazy over.

Chris doesn't buy into his character too much (see: Bret Hart, Tupac as Bishop in "Juice") and understands he is there to entertain us. That's it, that's all.

Sure wish he would put some pants back on though. Makes me feel a bit weird about my "Jericho man crush," when he comes out in the equivalent of tighty whities.

 

[P.K]

I can see that he is constantly losing after Wrestlemania , But i think there should be no concern for his fans.

The guy is the most professional in WWE right now.He does his best to raise company to a higher level.He's never afraid of putting people over , never afraid of competing for midcard title and never afraid of losing to a rookie.

No way in hell you can call him a jobber , cuz he is not.A jobber is a wrestler whose role is to lose.He just comes out in random weeks and lose to random guys in order to make them look strong.

Jericho gets TV time constantly each week , he has his entrance fully televised , he has mic time almost each and every week and while he loses a lot , he never loses his credibility.For example as easy as he has lost to Truth , Slater , he can replace Randy Orton in 4 Way and everyone still buys that.

Jericho is at top of the world right now , He's playing a 2005-2009 HBK role right now.Although HBK paid his dues to WWE by giving great performances , he really didn't put over young talents this much.Jericho's performances are not as good as HBK , but he helps the young more.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

I would never call him a jobber...sure he has been losing recently..but that is what is soo good about him..he doesn't always be involved in the main event scene, he helps make others look good..it's what he does...he's an amazing talent, puts on some great matches...i'f you've read, after he's finished with the r-truth feud, he may take time off....but still..it's not like he being squashed...someone said it before...he's starting to become the new Shawn Michaels...he'll come back, maybe get into the main event scene, whether he fails or succeeds, then he will probably get into some other upper-midacard feuds...

 

[xBANEx]

One thing you need to keep is mind is that losing doesn't automatically equal being a jobber. Jobbers rarely, if ever, win. Sound like Jericho? No, not really.

Few key things you need to think about first.

1. He was in the midcard for WCW what.. the entire time he was in it? He understands what it's like. He's probably more inclined to losing to younger guys more often than some of the other big stars in the 'E because he knows what it's like.
2. It's CHRIS FUCKING JERICHO. He could lose every match for however many years he remains in wrestling. Him having a title shot at any given point would be believable.
3. Him losing does nothing to hurt his 'legacy' but beating him does a lot for the FUTURE main eventers. ;D

 

[Ferbian]

I really can't say it any better than Xfear did, and I do agree with him all the way, Chris Jericho shouldn't loose as much, but in the end, there's nothing wrong with it.

Chris Jericho as so many have said, has gained a credibility that doesn't need championships or a positive record of constantly winning, because he is such a great talent that can give credibility back to a championship, and give credibility to a wrestler through great matches.

Chris isn't exactly a jobber neither, because he does get his wins here and there, he's a great talent who helps establish up and coming talent, while being in a position where he can take any of the championships and run with it and carry it over to someone else, to say it in other words, Chris is a great transactional champion.

 

[WhyTravisFelt]

Ditto what everybody else said.

I can understand, especially considering Jericho is probably the only wrestler on RAW that I really enjoy watching, getting frustrated that he's been spending so much time since dropping the title to Swagger being used to put other's over. I can understand that the word jobber comes to mouth pretty easy sometimes, but we're talking about a future hall of famer here (assuming he doesn't murder his family **fingers crossed**).

That said, I'm not sure R-Truth is the guy he should be putting over. R-truth is only a little more than a year younger than Jericho, and Jericho needs a US title run about as much as he needs a new suit.

I think if the idea is to have him put people over he should have stayed on Smackdown where he could've feuded with other veterans who are still trying to climb the ladder like Christian and Matt Hardy; and if we're looking into putting over a black superstar MVP, Kofi Kingston, or even JTG I think would all be better choices than R-Truth. On RAW I don't see any other feuds outside of John Morrison or maybe Evan Bourne; only the former of which would I expect to have much juice in it. I suppose if they can hurry up and work out a Jericho-Wade Barrett-Daniel Bryan thing, that could be cool, maybe turning Miz face. **shrugs**

 

[Adam08]

I wouldn't say Jericho is a jobber either. A jobber is someone rarely gets used hardly gets anytime on the mic and is put into squash matchs at least thats what I think a jobber is imo.

I agree though that Jericho should be winning though he will probably win tonight on raw or soon and I agree he is a future hall of famer and its good thing he puts people over.

 

[jmyers19]

Jericho is a veteran, he's done it all. First ever Undisputed Champ, record breaking 9 x Intercontinental Champ, multi time World Champ, on top of that former multi time tag team Champ including a very successful run last year. Massive kudos to him for being the type to put people over as well, R-Truth being one of them. He's portrayed a top face during his Y2J days and proved he can be a despised heel. So he's far from a jobber, with his accomplishments including a huge win at EC and then later at WrestleMania, being involved in a huge feud with HBK in 2008 and reviving the tag team division last year (In my opinion anyways, in some places its still lacking but both Jericho and Show deserve props for being a serious team who took on a lot of contenders with a lengthy reign). Jericho, for everything he's done and still does has proved he's a loyal employee and has stayed out of trouble with people backstage, minus a fight with Goldberg in 2003 and some troubles with the fans early last year and a drinking charge this year, but both were settled as calmly as possible. He's given Title reigns and top tier feuds, and if he isn't he's in the mid-upper card helping out younger guys. Doesn't tarnish his legacy or credibility. He was brilliant as the WWE pro for Wade Barrett, yeah he might've lost some matches recently and not involved in something big but that may be down to him taking time off for his new TV show before returning and being injected into a major program.

 

[Radical Canadian Goose]

Sorry if I ruffled any feathers, I just never actually thought of it as he was helping to elevate the younger talent. I've been a huge fan of Jerichos since day one and it was my honest mistake in not acknowledging that he was losing so frequentally to elevate up and comers. Sorry again if I caused a disturbance

 

[Widdows]

I don't understand why WWE are using Jericho in this way.
I remember him losing to JTG on Smackdown last year and a few others also.
But the worst was losing clean to Heath Slater. I mean come on.
The great thing about Jericho is it still feels 'real' when he loses, even with how often he loses.

 

[Vash21]

Jericho has always been one to put guys over. He is a great figure because he doesn't always have to sit in the spotlight and he is still way over wherever he goes.

I still remember his back an forths with Steph a few years ago, they were classic.

I wish that they would bring the funny trash talking Jericho back. He is a great heel but as funny as hell when he is a face.