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Is John Cena A Bully?

I honestly think Cena is somewhat of a backstage bully.
Both him and HHH are very much apart of the backstage politics and have their little 'clicks'.


Didn't Punk say Cena approached him when he was a newbie in WWE and said 'i almost gave up on you..' i don't think Punk would've lied about that, why would he?
Maybe Tarver is telling the truth and that Cena did laugh in his face... it was a dick move to do. Not even accepting a handshake either?
Cena is an asshole, he has that look, he may appear all nice but for all we know it's just a disguise.
 
really.

just because cena donates charity which frankly is most likely for good publicity doesnt mean hes not a dick in real life. and the same goes for each and everyone on the roster.

none of us know what happens behind the scenes. batista was suppsosed to a be charity guy too. what does he do. he criticizes guys in his own company, bashes tna and has a fistfight with booker t.

for all we know cena is a dick backstage. hell i act like an ass sometimes but at the same time volunteer at a childrens hospital on weekends. doesnt mean i cant be a dick sometimes. and once again same goes for all the guys backstage.

ortons supposed to be the face of smackdown. we all saw the way he spoke abt kelly kelly. true or not that was a pretty ******** thing to say.

y is cena any different. because he fulfills wishes. newsflash. hes a celebrity. its whats expected of them. especially when theyre supposed to be heroes to kids.

cena may have hit tarver and tarver did speak about it. tarver probably isnt lying but at the same time i dont care if he is. y. because cena is acting like people do. a person cannot be goody goody all the time. a person can be a dick sometimes and we shouldnt hold it against them.

How do we not know that Cena isn't nice? Orton is the face of Smackdown, but no one ever said he was the nicest person in the world (and how does Randy being a dick have anything to do with Cena?). Celebs don't HAVE to do what Cena does, Cena does those things because he wants to. From all reports and stuff that we have seen, Cena is a very nice person. Wrestlers usually are not shy about talking against other wrestlers. Tarver is the only guy to say something bad about (the real) him. Tarver said that Cena broke his arm (or whatever injury) on purpose with a steel chair. Tarver is just butthurt about being injured and also (as I have said before), human bodies do not like to be hit with things that are made out of steel. If you go back and watch the event, Cena didn't anything abnormal against Tarver.

PS - Please use capital letters. It would make your post look ten times better.

Didn't Punk say Cena approached him when he was a newbie in WWE and said 'i almost gave up on you..' i don't think Punk would've lied about that, why would he?

Austin said the exact samething to The Miz. I bet the WWE told him to twist that in a way to seem bad, as actually if you think about it, its kind of a compliment.
 
really.

just because cena donates charity which frankly is most likely for good publicity doesnt mean hes not a dick in real life. and the same goes for each and everyone on the roster.

none of us know what happens behind the scenes. batista was suppsosed to a be charity guy too. what does he do. he criticizes guys in his own company, bashes tna and has a fistfight with booker t.

for all we know cena is a dick backstage. hell i act like an ass sometimes but at the same time volunteer at a childrens hospital on weekends. doesnt mean i cant be a dick sometimes. and once again same goes for all the guys backstage.

ortons supposed to be the face of smackdown. we all saw the way he spoke abt kelly kelly. true or not that was a pretty ******** thing to say.

y is cena any different. because he fulfills wishes. newsflash. hes a celebrity. its whats expected of them. especially when theyre supposed to be heroes to kids.

cena may have hit tarver and tarver did speak about it. tarver probably isnt lying but at the same time i dont care if he is. y. because cena is acting like people do. a person cannot be goody goody all the time. a person can be a dick sometimes and we shouldnt hold it against them.

See what you did there? You just gave examples to support your point but your examples actually hurt the argument against Cena.

Batista, Orton and all those guys had stories coming out about all kinds of bad behavior. Cena on the other hand has been squeeky clean for six or seven years which IMO earns him the benefit of doubt over some unstable rookie with an axe to grind. Some people want to believe this is true because they already hate Cena and their other reasons are flimsy at best.
 
Now, I'm not saying this just because I am a Cena fan & am trying to defend him, but, I have met him. Now, while I didn't spend more than 3 minutes with him other times, I was able to have a brief conversation with him for about 15 minutes backstage at Armageddon 2008. I have been able to meet him after RAW tapings, but only for a matter of 1-3 minutes tops. But, in that 15 minute timespan & brief meetings before, I must say, he is a stand up guy, very kind & spends all of his time backstage or behind the arena signing autographs & taking pictures with his fans before the busses & cars have to leave to get on the road. Now, while Tarver may be implying that he is a bully, judging by my experience & what fans & other Superstars & celebrities say about him, I'd say he is far from a bully. As far as racism goes, he has worked matches with Booker T, Bobby Lashley, Mark Henry, Kofi Kingston, Orlando Jordan & few others who are on good terms with Cena or have mutual respect or a friendship with each other. Also, on The John Cena Experience DVD set, on Disc 1, he is talking about his contributions to the Make-a-Wish Foundation & one of his granted wishes was taped for 2 young black children. Cena granted them a shopping spree at 7/11 during the night of Money in the Bank 2010 (the Summerslam collectors cups were on sale then) & then gave them a huge amount of action figures, toys, merchandise & got them ring-side tickets for MitB & spent an incredible amount of time with them. Also, he is shown with many black troops at Tribute to the Troops or at ringside during a pay-per-view event or TV taping. So, judging by his contributions to his fans, charities & the troops, plus all of the remarkable comments said about him from other WWE personell, fans & celebrities, no, John is not in any way a bully or a racist. Michael Tarver was nothing more than a low-mid carder with no gimmick & from what it seems like from other reports, he is the one who is unprofessional or just green in the ring (i.e. not selling, not good with taking bumps, needs training), so he is going after the top guy in the industry hoping it'll grant him some attention. News to him, the only attention he is getting is negative & is not going to get into WWE with that attitude or comments. Matt Hardy, as much as a huge fan I am of his, fucked up his career in WWE by taking to online & speaking out like this. Now that Matt is gone from TNA, a career in the WWE again seems slim to none.But, that's a different story for a different thread. My point being, Tarver is being very unprofessional, or to put it lightly, is being a jealous cry-baby because he didn't get a push in WWE.
 
The way I decipher it, Tarver saw Cena go off script with the chair shots and panicked when he remembered his incident that while back. Was using his arm the right thing to do? I don't know; on one hand, you just got your arm cracked, but on the other hand you saved yourself from what you thought was a bad position. So the arm thing was Tarver's own accord. But then the backstage incident, if it is true, just makes Cena look like a total dick. I understand that superstars get hazed (sometimes a little too harshly, but thats another thread), but for Tarver to bottle his anger to show you respect he doesn't even want to give just to have it shoved back in his face and laughed at is a punk ass move on Cena's part. And Tarver has been sticking to this whole "Cena screwed me" idea for a while now, so tbh it makes me wonder if it really is true. Just because you're a top star doesn't mean you're a saint (Orton proves that).
 
The way I decipher it, Tarver saw Cena go off script with the chair shots and panicked when he remembered his incident that while back. Was using his arm the right thing to do? I don't know; on one hand, you just got your arm cracked, but on the other hand you saved yourself from what you thought was a bad position. So the arm thing was Tarver's own accord. But then the backstage incident, if it is true, just makes Cena look like a total dick. I understand that superstars get hazed (sometimes a little too harshly, but thats another thread), but for Tarver to bottle his anger to show you respect he doesn't even want to give just to have it shoved back in his face and laughed at is a punk ass move on Cena's part. And Tarver has been sticking to this whole "Cena screwed me" idea for a while now, so tbh it makes me wonder if it really is true. Just because you're a top star doesn't mean you're a saint (Orton proves that).

Charles Manson has been sticking to this whole "I didn't tell them to kill anybody" story for 40 years. Should we set him free? People keep pointing to the bad behavior of other main eventers, but they overlook the fact that Orton had years and years of stories where he trashed hotel rooms or assaulted fans or sexually harrassed divas. Where is this history for Cena? No one has ever called him a bully. Hell, nobody has ever called him a bad guy before. But hey, if it gives people who already hate Cena something to cry about on the internet (Not talking about you Da Solo), go for it.
 
Charles Manson has been sticking to this whole "I didn't tell them to kill anybody" story for 40 years. Should we set him free? People keep pointing to the bad behavior of other main eventers, but they overlook the fact that Orton had years and years of stories where he trashed hotel rooms or assaulted fans or sexually harrassed divas. Where is this history for Cena? No one has ever called him a bully. Hell, nobody has ever called him a bad guy before. But hey, if it gives people who already hate Cena something to cry about on the internet (Not talking about you Da Solo), go for it.

I get what your saying, and its true: a lot of people want to believe this story just to justify their unreasonable hatred of John Cena. But my problem with the statement is that you're basically saying we should give Cena the benefit of the doubt just because of his image, which I don't believe is right. Remember back when people accused Taker of snitching on Punk and ending his title reign prematurely? Taker has a squeaky clean image, but as soon as it involved the internet darling that is CM Punk, a lot of people just assumed he was in the wrong. So now that Tarver is hated in the IWC and defending Cena has become the IWC's flavor of the month, he automatically becomes innocent. The only thing with the way you used Orton as an example is that Orton's offenses got more heat and attention because it was against bigger names than Tarver (Kennedy, Kofi, Miz, Kelly). Since Tarver is basically a WWE flunkee, this issue is going to be a lot more one-sided, just sayin'.
 
Two Cena threads in one day, how much more sucking can the guy receive. Tarver is most likely making this up, Cena imo would never do such a thing, it isn't something Cena THE PERSON would do. And IF Cena did do it with malicious intent, I'm pretty sure there would be legal issues.
 
WADE BARRET also stated in a interview for the UK that personally .................(he said it in a honest manner-if he was kidding than that was good acting)
he does not like CENA as a person, he didn't explain but he just said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWSoYtveTyY

Friend of mine hates Cena as a person and a wrestler but the personal bit comes from the fact that whenever my friend has been backstage hanging with them whenever they're in Canada, she'd chat with Chavo Jr, Taker, Kane, Triple H (people she's known extremely well since the 90s), she'd also hang with Cena's dad and oldest brother because she loved their company while John himself would be with his cronies insulting people and generally being an ass while they all did their fake laughs.

John's oldest brother has never been on tv and even had his old Myspace page kept hidden so people wouldn't know who his famous younger brother was and get hassled. Wanna know why he was never on tv? Half the reason is because he chose not to be, the other half being that John disowned the guy for being gay.

Yep, that's right, John Cena is homophobic towards his own brother even though word is that John himself bats for both teams.

I even got to see his disgusting behaviour for myself once when we all went to a show and got backstage. That's one reason I despise the man, hell I wouldn't even call him a man. He's just a hate-filled coward who puts on a false persona when fans are around but with the boys, he shows his true colours.

That's something that a lot of you here won't ever get to hear about because reports on sites like WZ always talk about the fake Cena that does good things (to get his name out there for personal reasons and not to help sick kids) and not the backstage stuff like when Orton asked my friend at a house show to slap him to help his heel heat when he made a little kid cry and then Flair was backstage after the show giggling because Randy was STILL bitching about how hard she slapped him.

Or that Booker T attacked Batista while he was injured and Sharmell also put the boots to him to start that little spat and then while the internet was reporting on their fight months later and claiming wrongly that Batista started it, they'd already made up and Booker was accepting Batista's invite to his yearly BBQ with the other guys.

Or even that Dave Meltzer is an annoying little toad who decided that since he couldn't be a wrestler, he'd write bullshit about wrestlers and use unethical methods like trying to sleep with wrestler's wives to get dirt on them for his rag.

Or the time my friend bought shares in WWE just to vote against Vince in shareholder meetings and that during one meeting that also had Triple H there, Hunter was asked if he was giving some of his own money to TNA to keep them in business and then looked down with an expression as if to say "I can't say anything in front of Vince" that he apparently had a few times before when he'd had to admit to stuff out of earshot of the boss.
 
♠ Spades ♠;3364458 said:
Tarver is most likely making this up

Why would he make this up? What would he possibly have to gain from this?

Cena imo would never do such a thing, it isn't something Cena THE PERSON would do. And IF Cena did do it with malicious intent, I'm pretty sure there would be legal issues.

Yep, "in your opinion", you don't know him like a handful of others do.

Legal issues you say? Trust me, this kind of thing has happened before with malicious intent and the law was never even involved. Not just in WWE but in other companies. It's all part of the hazing that rookies have to do even if it's pretty ******ed and screwed up in my view.

Like when Hogan's Japanese trainer in the 70s broke his leg on purpose to see if Hulk really was serious about becoming a wrestler. Or when Bradshaw gave Buff Bagwell a stiff powerbomb on his surgically repaired neck as his way of welcoming him to WWE even if it could've broken his neck again and perhaps even paralyzed him.

I take it you really have no clue what goes on in the business by your post.
 
Well I watched the video of the incident and Tarver claims he saw Otunga take multiple shots AND than left but if you watch the video he left before Otunga took a second shot so to me his credibility is shot.

Here is the video if anyone is interested skip ahead to the 1:30 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfEBF0vtbMM

I think Cena hit Otunga first which seemed like a light shot (lighter than normal) and then went to hit Tarver which was an even lighter hit than Otunga's.
 
I smell bullshit on this whole article, Tarver botched a move and tried to blame it on Cena. He's just trying to get attention at the biggest wrestler in the worlds expense. Tarver was never anything more than a jobber in WWE and nowhere near on Cena's level. Hate him or not Cena is a pro and as far as I know hasn't injured anyone on purpose or by botching a move. Cena has faced many top guys and future/current hall of fame talent. He hasn't taken out or injured any of them. I couldn't imagine him hurting anyone much less someone so far off his radar.
 
the new wrestlers need to suck it up or they wont last long...hell, Miz & Matt Striker know what its like to have their bags thrown out of the lockerroom and get changed in a custodial supply closet due to poor lockerroom etiquette
 
I would certainly not say Cena was a bully. To me it seems like there could be more to this story that we just don't know about yet. Cena could have been a little hard on him to see how Tarver would handle "playing with the big boys". There are plenty of guys out there like that who just want to test you to see if you have what it takes. For example, when I got moved up to varsity in football back in high school the team captain immediately started to be tougher on me and hit me harder at practice. Turns out he wasn't being a bully, he was testing me to see if I had what it took to be there. Cena may have been doing something very similar. Or Tarver might be distorting the truth a little to make his side sound better. That being said, I doubt Cena was bullying Tarver or anyone for that matter because he was a rookie himself once, therefore he knows these guys look up to him and might be future stars.
 

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