Is he still Awesome?

[lifelongfan]

hears the deal. i think the miz is great. love his story about earning respect from locker room. and think he should still b in the ME. whether it be face or heel. i love the miz. much more as a heel. he very entertaining witch is y i watch wrealslin and tv in general to b entained. so what about u. do u think miz is a main event guy?

 

[GeneralKarim]

He was never a main event guy, he was put in the main event scene so the Rock could interfere in match.

He is a good mid carder who can talk very good trash as a heel.But I dont think he is a main eventer.I just dont see him like that.

Atm he is just the PR guy with the Miz TV talk show.

This Miz face experiment failed in my opinion and he is a natural heel and should be kept as such.Atm I have no clue where he should be on the card, maybe in the US Title or Intercontinental title scene.

This thing with Wyatt I think is a pointless filler that is there just so they have Bray destroy someone until Kane comes back.

 

[5 Moves of Doom]

I believe The Miz is still awesome, but I would like for him to go back as a heel. He was a lot better as a heel and was more believable because his gimmick is just like how he was in real life with his cockiness. I would like for him to be back where he was when he was a heel, but have a more aggressive side to him kind of like Randy Orton. He would be even more awesome if creative would let him go that route.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

hears the deal. i think the miz is great. love his story about earning respect from locker room. and think he should still b in the ME. whether it be face or heel. i love the miz. much more as a heel. he very entertaining witch is y i watch wrealslin and tv in general to b entained. so what about u. do u think miz is a main event guy?

In case some of us can't understand you

Translation

Here's the deal. I think The Miz is great. Love his story about earning respect from the locker room, and I think he should still be in the Main Event. Regardless if he's a face or a heel. I love The Miz much more as a heel though. He is very entertaining which is why I watch wrestling and television in general; to be entertained.

So what about you? Do you think Miz is a main event guy?



I feel his time just isn't right now. Even after defending his title against John Cena years ago, he was an afterthought. The WWE Champion should NEVER be an afterthought, no matter if Cena or Rock were involved.

It doesn't matter if he's a good heel or a great face; if WWE doesn't have anything for him to do, he's not going to set the world on fire. Just sit back and see if he truly makes a name for himself. He has the potential, but like every character it's up to the writers to move them along.

 

[LSN80]

hears the deal. i think the miz is great. love his story about earning respect from locker room. and think he should still b in the ME.

If this is the case, my question for you is this: Where in the Main Event scene does The Miz fit? He was blessed with an opportunity that so few wrestlers ever receive, and that was to main-even Wrestlemania. Since then, however, his stock has dropped quite a bit, and he's been surpassed by more well-rounded talents such as CM Punk and Daniel Bryan, to name two. So if Miz isgoing to be a main-event player once again, who does he supplant? It's not going to be John Cena or Randy Orton, that's for sure, and as Wrestlemania season rolls around, part-timers such as Brock Lesnar, the Undertaker, and HHH will be in the mix there as well.

All I suggest is for you to consider this question,and do so honestly: Reading the names I mentioned, does the Miz truly fit there? If you can truly say yes, where and with whom? I think you'll find, even as a Miz fan, that Miz paired with any of the aforementioned main-eventers is a mismatch of epic proportions. He was out of his element and over his head 3 years ago with Cena and Rock, and he is again now.

This isn't to say I dislike Miz, as I believe he's capable of being more than he is right now. The host of Summerslam, or on the pre-show of PPVs? He's capable of more then that. This isn't a guy who in any way is deserving of main-eventing any show, be it even an episode of Raw. However, he's a solid hand who works hard and belongs firmly in the mix as a mid-card player. As he showed during his time in the main event, hes more than capable of selling a storyline from his end, both on the mic and in the ring. So while it's problematic that Miz isn't being used to his full capacity, no doubt, its preferable this then he be overexposed in the main event picture, as he once was before. The problem with so many of us as fans, unfortunately, is that if our favorite wrestler isn't main-eventing, or in a high place on the card, we bemoan their 'misuse' and 'under-utilization.'

The bottom line with Miz is this: He's an able mid-card hand, but he's not a main event player. He had a major opportunity at one point there, and he was nothing more than an opportunistic champion. He possesses fair wrestling skills, decent mic ability, and a catchphrase, but not the goods to last as a main event player. Like his WWE Title reign, his time in the main event was a transitional one, and one at that which we'll likely not see again.

Nor should we.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I think he COULD be a main eventer again at some point but I'm not sure if that's the direction WWE wants to go with him. He's more of a hybrid right now. What I mean is he's a guy that can put on a decent match, can handle the mic but can also go out and promote the product. He's the perfect promoter for WWE since he's not huge, doesn't have 1000 tattoos, doesn't look like a homeless bum and is good in interviews and dealing with the media.

I think he was pushed too fast by WWE and then had a ridiculous title run fighting Jerry Lawler among others.

He's a hell of a lot better overall than a lot of the mid to lower card guys that the IWC is obsessed with but he needs to get better in the ring for sure.

 

[Kris Benwa]

I think the Miz is still awesome. I don't see why people think he should be a heel because he's not likeable because I like him. He's a guy that was trying to make hsis dream happen but was jerked around and bullied by the locker room but eventually rose up and held damn near ever title in WWE and main evented WrestleMania so I like him because he faced real life issues but unlike some people in this world do he didn't give up he kept going and achieved his dream we should all look up to Miz. I think WWE made a mistake with him at WM 27 though, they should have just had Cena beat him somewhat clean then Rock Rockbottom Cena after the match to setup WM 28. When they had the draft they should have drafted the Miz to Smackdown where he would challenge for and then eventually win the WHC. That's what should have happened and he would still be a main event star to this very day instead they did whatever they did and fucked him up because all they care about was Cena vs Rock.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

As of right now, Miz shouldn't be in the main event, in my opinion. I've been a fan of Miz for a long while, I think he gets a lot of undeserved hate from internet fans especially. However, it's becoming less & less likely that Miz will be in the main event picture anytime soon.

In the WHC scene, you know that Del Rio & Cena are going to be taking that spot up for the next few month or so, possibly even on through the rest of 2013. Frankly, it's a little bit shocking to see Cena going after the World Heavyweight Championship seeing as how it's generally well below his standard as a star. The fact that he has, however, has many people wondering if we're heading down the road to eventually merging the WWE & World Heavyweight Championships with WWE ultimately having a single World Title again.

For the WWE Championship, it's difficult to say exactly at this point. On any number of sites with a poll asking whether Orton or Bryan will win at HIAC, they're all pretty much dead even. There's definitely been a lot of unpredictability in this title feud, more so than any I've seen in a long time. It could go either way as it's difficult to get into Triple H's head on this one, but I'm going with Bryan. Bryan's the hottest babyface on the roster and, and has been throughout the summer, while Orton's star has already burned as bright as it's going to.

After the WWE & World Championship pictures are more clear after this Sunday, you've still got guys like Big Show, Rollins, Reigns, CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Big E. Langston, Ambrose, Axel, etc. and others waiting in the wings who've had a much more productive 2013 than Miz has. Before WWE even considers Miz for a main event spot again, he needs to be strongly built for about 4 or 5 months because he's firmly planted as a mid-carder and has been for quite a while now.

 

[The Eighties]

I never saw Miz as a main event player, he was the expendable Champion they used for Mania 27 so they could focus the finish on what the host would do to Cena. He was a great Honky Tonk Man style mid card heel though.

As for where he's at right now, I can why WWE keep him as a face to do the PR stuff, he's good at it from the interviews I've seen and presents a very safe image of the WWE to the mainstream.

As an asset to WWE programming though I think his face run is a complete bust, he's just not nearly over enough. As a heel he was a heat magnet and much more valuable to the storyline's he was in. This current feud with Bray Wyatt has potential given the actual angle plays off some of Miz's real life, but I imagine he's just someone for Bray to beat until Kane returns.

 

[Rhodes2TheFuture3313]

Miz may be a mid-card guy at the moment, but when he was the WWE Champion I hated him. I hated his smug mannerisms. His pretty boy-heel look and faux-hawk. And his bug eyes. However, as time went on I began to appreciate the Miz's work. The guy works hard , Miz TV should be better than it is, but the writers I believe kind of forcefeed the segment rather than take Miz's creativity into putting it together. His feud with Wade Barrett over the IC title and W/Kofi earlier were both good. As was his feud with Cesaro for the US strap. Miz and Axel wasn't a good pairing I think mostly because of the writing. Miz and Fandango didn't really go anywhere. I'm liking his current feud with Bray Wyatt. The stuff on Smackdown tonight was very good. I'm thinking they can use Bray Wyatt as this dark, mysterious figure who gets his opponents to tap into their dark side and be consumed by it. Hence, this could be a good way to have guys turn heel a la Kane, Miz etc. Wyatt is going to be one of those epic dark characters they've been searching to pass the torch to from Undertaker and Kane. I think this Wyatt/Miz feud has a lot of potential.

 

[Aquaman6686]

I think the Miz has the potential to be a legitimate main event superstar, but he's not living up to it. Part of it is WWE's fault, and part of it is his own. When WWE temporarily gave him the main event push, I think Miz got cocky and complacent, thinking it was permanent. Ever since then, WWE has refused to give Miz another chance to run with the ball, and his face turn was planned poorly and handled even worse. I think if he goes heel again, he'll eventually be given another opportunity to show what he can do as a main eventer, and I think he'll do better with it this time around.

 

[TempestH]

Yes and no.

Could I see Miz being WWE Champion again? Yes.

Could I see him being a big Cena/Punk level megastar? No.

Even if Miz doesn't become a long term main eventer, there's nothing wrong with that. Miz is my favorite wrestler on the current roster, but if he never won a world title again, I'd be fine with it. Miz would make a very strong midcard champion. When he was Intercontinental Champion, the belt felt more relevant than it had in a long time. Even if he never gets back in the main event picture, he can use what notoriety he has to boost the midcard and tag divisions.

I've said it before, but the problem is that WWE has killed the concept of a midcard. WWE has neglected the midcard so badly that they've created the mindset that midcarder = jobber. So the only way they know how to get a guy over and have him be taken seriously is to shove into the main event or into programs with main event talent. And once a guy has been in the main event, or competed for a World Title, it looks like a big step down when they're not. Guys like Miz look bad when they have to step away from the title hunt and do other things. WWE just has too many "main eventers" (guys who are supposed to be top contenders in kayfabe)

Instead of trying to get people over on all levels of the card, WWE will try to put anyone they're high on into the upper tier, leading to a bloated main event scene and a shitty midcard. Not only does this affect Miz, but this affects everyone below him, because the REAL midcarders end up looking like jobbers in comparison.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I don't see him in the main event and wasn't impressed when he was. In his favor, he's got a Roddy Piper-like gift of gab that can inflame his enemies and that's a quality that main event guys need. His ring repertoire is pretty good, but nothing remarkable.

What I feel he really needs is a more menacing presence....i.e., a better physique. He isn't fat and obviously watches his weight, so the next step would be to spend some quality time in the gym. With a little more muscular definition, I think he could parlay his mouth and his appearance into greater things. I still don't know that he'd be main event material, but there's plenty of room on the mid-card for an imposing physical specimen.

I think that if Miz got himself some muscles, he'd look a lot like Alex Riley. That's ironic since Riley's first major assignment was working with......Miz.


Incidentally, I still think the Miz looks a lot like Jim McMahon, the quarterback of Da Bears from the 80's.

 

[BaconBits]

I don't know that he should be or ever will be a consistent main event level wrestler. He simply isn't particularly believable because, well, he looks like some dude. Sure, he's in shape. But so are a majority of dudes his age, and 99.9% of them aren't wrestlers.

What he does have that separates him from other folks his age is the gift of gab. In spades. He's great with PR work too, and will do just about anything asked of him.

Methinks he'd be best utilized in the WWE as an announcer and occasional wrestler a la Jerry Lawler.

Yes, I know, Lawler still works for the WWE. Problem is, his schtick is extraordinarily corny/dated and growing even more tired all the time. His occasional ring appearances are even worse. It's time to move him to a part time schedule/let him go entirely, and replace him with someone more current. That person should be the Miz.

 

[Borck Lesnar]

The miz is awesome to his fan's when i went to a event he was getting the crowd loud! they where so high for the miz, i think wwe is booking miz wrong. miz is awesome

 

[SkyCommanderWinky]

I'm not a Miz fan but I think he needs to be in the main event. Former WWE Champion and a better heel than ADR so why not? IMO he should have been the Heyman guy and not Ryback. I would be down for a CM Punk / The Miz and Heyman HIAC match even though I'm not a particular fan of either guy.

The Figure Four needs to go though...

 

[HBKistheHOF]

The Miz was never awesome to begin with & has never been close to a true main event caliber superstar IMO. I think the below statement is spot on.

He was never a main event guy, he was put in the main event scene so the Rock could interfere in match.

He is a good mid carder who can talk very good trash as a heel.But I dont think he is a main eventer.I just dont see him like that.

The Miz was simply a place holder. He only got to hold onto the WWE title because the WWE was unhappy with CM Punk at the time & they were looking for another newer WWE superstar to try & push while building to Cena/Rock the following year. The WWE wanted Rock to cost Cena big time at Mania 27 & they figured at the time that The Miz was the right guy to profit from Cena's momentary lose. In reality I think The Miz just has a gift for talking a lot of smack & the WWE was just playing it safe by giving the spot to a "yes man" like The Miz.

Not counting his consistently bad booking, there are several issues I have with The Miz. He desperately needs to change both of his finishers (The Skull Crushing Finale is beyond lame & The Figure Four Leglock doesn't work for him), he is an all around terrible babyface, MizTV is an awful segement (& is better suited for a guy like Damien Sandow, Bray Wyatt, etc.), all of his mannerisms in & out of the ring & all of his promo work looks & feels very artifically produced & inorganic, etc.

The only run by The Miz that i genuinely enjoyed was when he returned at MitB 2012 from filming "The Marine: Homefront" up until his vague face turn. He had a more updated look that didn't make him look like such a little sissy reality show star, his in-ring work was the most crisp it has ever been & he was in his rightful spot as an upper mid-carder; still working in relevant programs & winning the IC title but not a main event player/focal point or just some pointless "host" of the show. The only work of The Miz's that I have enjoyed since then was his brief feud with Antonio Cesaro, which is partly due to the fact that it has been Cesaro's only meaningful feud in WWE to date.

The Miz certainly still has some value left but whether or not I thought The Miz should have obtained WWE Title Gold, he did & the WWE has let him fall VERY, VERY far since then. So while he isn't my ideal world champion or main eventer I really hope WWE does something better with him then they have been recently because keeping him around simply for PR, hosting segments & shows & having meaningless feuds while WWE waits for superstars to return from injury, is not only making me like him less & less each day but it's lowering The Miz's value & letting him become more & more irrelevant each day.

 

[jameyt2003]

I don't think Miz is all that bad. IMO he blends in with guys like Punk, Jericho, Bryan, and other average size guys, with short hair, who wear short trunks. What im saying is these type of guys can be interchanged but they all have a great amount of value to the WWE. Lets not forget that Miz has been around for quite awhile. Booker T said he liked the Miz a lot for how long he had to pay his dues coming up in this company (WWE). If the Miz had to be fodder for The Rock and Cena fued, then so be it. He still earned his place that night at WM.

 

[MCMG]

I definitely think The Miz has the potential to be in the main event. His WWE title reign was a of a high quality and he was a top heel. The Miz just plays a heel well and they should have him turn back; for the sake of his career. He is going nowhere as a face but as a heel there is serious potential.

 

[Redrum]

No i never saw him as a main event guy but a upper mid card guy. That being said this year has been misused badly. I think he should and could have more title reigns in his future. Mostly IC and US but maybe one or two more WHC/WWE title runs. The question is will WWE push him back into the fold of being a upper mid card guy? That i dont know but for it to happen i think he needs to turn heel again.

 

[closet_fan]

Chris Jericho once said that your time in the WWE goes in a cycle. You're at the top for awhile, then shuffled down the deck and have to work your way back up to main event status. We've seen it happen with most superstars. It's happening to the Miz right now. He built himself up to main event status, lost, went back to the bottom and we are starting to see hints of him working himself back up.

I never thought the Miz would last this long. I didn't even think he would be that good of a wrestler. The first match I saw him in was one with Chris Benoit and I thought the Miz was actually good. Not great, but better than I expected.

He'll be back. He does everything that's asked of him and doesn't give anyone in the back problems. Officials take notice of this. He'll be rewarded again.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

he was the expendable Champion they used for Mania 27 so they could focus the finish on what the host would do to Cena.

My thoughts exactly. Miz was just a fall guy at Wrestlemania 27, and I still believe WWE could've inserted a select number of mid-card heels into that spot as WWE Champion to face Cena, because the match was all about Rock getting his revenge for the AA on the previous Raw, setting up the match at Wrestlemania 28.

I don't hate Miz, but it's painfully obvious the guy plateaued a long, LONG time ago. He was exposed for being a serviceable mid-card heel with some mainstream credibility as a reality star, and that's it.

Barring a string of devastating, long term injuries to John Cena, Randy Orton, and CM Punk I honestly can't picture Miz sniffing the main event scene or another world title again. And if WWE is bitten by the injury bug, it wouldn't surprise if they used some of those limited dates to call on Lesnar, utilize Big Show and Kane as main event players, or throw Triple H in there as a main event player again.

Miz will be that guy, who bounces around the mid-card, and of course, he'll represent WWE in various media appearances. Personally, I believe Miz would be a great fit behind the commentary table, and I see more of an upside for his non-wrestling career (i.e. Miz TV).

 

[Dagger Dias]

It depends on what aspect of Miz we are talking about. He is awesome on the mic. Has been for quite some time. However, in the ring, not so much. Sure, he has improved and he legitimately never gave up until he lived his dream by retaining the WWE Championship in the closing match of Wrestlemania 27. That might not have been what a good portion of the fanbase wanted to see, but he achieved what he had always wanted to do, and that does earn some respect. I for one never thought he would make it any further than his tag team with Morrison. I'll admit I was wrong about that. I do still think Morrison should have gotten the bigger push, but that's a topic for another discussion.

The bottom line is this though.... Determined or not, Miz still sucks. He will never be believable as more than a midcard champion. He never should have held the WWE Championship. That's not based off my dislike of him as a person, it's simply based off the reactions of people who don't regularly follow wrestling who saw him during his WWE Championship reign and reacted with remarks along the lines of "THAT guy's the champion!?". The wrestlers at the top of the card need to be believable in such a role. Miz is not one of those guys, nor will he ever be. That is why he is not still awesome. He never was to begin with, unless we are talking strictly about his promo skills or his determination.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

The bottom line is this though.... Determined or not, Miz still sucks. He will never be believable as more than a midcard champion. He never should have held the WWE Championship. That's not based off my dislike of him as a person, it's simply based off the reactions of people who don't regularly follow wrestling who saw him during his WWE Championship reign and reacted with remarks along the lines of "THAT guy's the champion!?". The wrestlers at the top of the card need to be believable in such a role. Miz is not one of those guys, nor will he ever be. That is why he is not still awesome. He never was to begin with, unless we are talking strictly about his promo skills or his determination.

If you're basing it on people that don't regularly follow wrestling, then my question is, what do they think of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan? Both guys look like homeless bums. If I looked at a picture of Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, and The Miz (and knew nothing else and didn't watch a match), I'd probably think The Miz looks the most believable as the champion out of those 3.

I agree he's very solid on the mic, one of the better guys on the roster, and that's ultimately what's keeping him from being at jobber at this point. WWE is holding him back I think because he has (or at least they think he has) hit his ceiling in terms of in-ring work. If he'd get slightly better in the ring, he could main event again, simply because he's good on the mic.

 

[Dagger Dias]

If you're basing it on people that don't regularly follow wrestling, then my question is, what do they think of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan? Both guys look like homeless bums. If I looked at a picture of Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, and The Miz (and knew nothing else and didn't watch a match), I'd probably think The Miz looks the most believable as the champion out of those 3.

A very good question. The same remarks have been heard regarding Punk, but oddly enough not Bryan. The remarks about Punk were retracted once those individuals watched a couple of his matches. Look at it this way. Miz as champion is not something most fans would brag about or want to show others. Punk and Bryan, on the other hand, have a plethora of matches to showcase what they can do and it would not be embarrassing to show a non-fan an edition of Raw where Punk or Bryan is holding the WWE/World Championship. As for looking at a picture of the three I would actually argue Bryan looks the most believable. Miz does not even have the look of a wrestler, let alone a world championship tier wrestler like he was in 2011. Granted, Punk doesn't either, but he looks more like one than Miz does.

I agree he's very solid on the mic, one of the better guys on the roster, and that's ultimately what's keeping him from being at jobber at this point. WWE is holding him back I think because he has (or at least they think he has) hit his ceiling in terms of in-ring work. If he'd get slightly better in the ring, he could main event again, simply because he's good on the mic.

I'd keep him in the US or Intercontinental Championship scene.... or better yet, make him a promo guy only. His talk show segments are great, I like his promos a lot. I struggle to find any interest at all in his matches though, and that is part of why I hope he never main events again. Only the best and most believable should be at the top of the card.