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Is Edge as good as we think he is?

Thomasrko

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I'm a fan of Edge, but can he really wrestle? He's got the look, the mic skills, but not a real good wrestler. He doesn't do much spear, educution, and edge o matic. Not very good moves in my opinon. I'm liked the slimey Edge better than the new Edge. Do you think Edge is a good wrestler?
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Edge has the ability to put on some great matches.
Edge might not be a technical wonder child in the ring, but he certainly can put on a show you won't forget, he takes risks, and he certainly makes sure you remember his performance that night, even if it's not the match of the night, it's definitely a worthwhile one, and I think with the upcoming match at Wrestlemania, we're in for quite a treat.
 
I'm a fan of Edge, but can he really wrestle? He's got the look, the mic skills, but not a real good wrestler. He doesn't do much spear, educution, and edge o matic. Not very good moves in my opinon. I'm liked the slimey Edge better than the new Edge. Do you think Edge is a good wrestler?

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Rko 4 Life:twak:

You just cancelled it out.

What does Randy have that Edge doesn't this is making me laugh? You're having a go at Edges limited moveset, but you're a Randy mark. Have you ever watched a Randy match?

Edge is a good wrestler, since Rumble he's been lacking a little but that's because he just had nine months off injured with an injury that people said would take a year to get back on form. That is why he has been very limited recently.

I think Edge is great, he can wrestler with anyone, he was one of the six innovators of TLC, he can always be counted on to bring his A-game up. Just teh injury side of things let him down.
 
First of all, this is my first post on these forums in over a year. I've been keeping up with topics, but haven't had the urge to post. But this one kind of brought me out.

Anyone that says Edge can't wrestle or isn't very good must be pretty new to the WWE. Edge has shown that he's one of the most versatile, talented wrestlers in the past decade. He's put on plenty of classic, well wrestled matches. Him and Kurt Angle tore the house down in 2002 with their feud that ended with Kurt's head being shaved. Not to mention the various Ladder/TLC matches back in the early 2000s with the Hardy Boyz and the Dudleyz.

The problem is that Edge has suffered a lot of injuries. A broken neck, a torn achilles tendon, a torn pectoral muscle, and various other injuries have slowed him down over the years. The reason his moveset and/or abilities aren't up to par with what they used to be is because Edge is probably trying to avoid injuries. The last thing he needs is another injury to put him out for an undisclosed amount of time.

So if you want to see Edge at his best, watch his matches before he broke his neck. I think that will show that he's not as limited as you think he is.
 
Edge is overrated,he was best when he was teaming up with Christian.His moveset is nothing special,mic skills good,but what he does have is "the look".Thats why he's been around all these years.Hopefully when Wrestlemania is over Edge wont be champion but I have a feeling their going to give him the title.WWE is soooo predictable.Do something different for a change.
 
So if you want to see Edge at his best, watch his matches before he broke his neck. I think that will show that he's not as limited as you think he is.

I actually think I've seen a few matches he wrestled pretty well after his accident with the broken neck.
One that is an obvious answer would have to be the ladder match with Jeff Hardy at Extreme Rules.
An other one, which I think was awesome, slightly slow paced and still shocked me for Edge's ability to put on a none weapon based wrestling match, would have to be his match with John Morrison shortly after he lost his World Heavyweight Championship (sadly I can't remember the date, but as I said, shortly after he lost the belt).
 
Well Edge wasn't the most trechnical wrestler like someone already said but neither was Hulk Hogan and he was a big name in his time. Edge doesn't have a 6 pack or that mutch muscle but he puts on good matches. Especially when there is no rules (his best moves are with weapons). Mic skills are evrything in now in the the current time period. He had good fueds with Batista, Undertaker, Jeff and Matt Hardy, and John Cena and to me Edge isn't that bad of a superstar.
 
I actually think I've seen a few matches he wrestled pretty well after his accident with the broken neck.
One that is an obvious answer would have to be the ladder match with Jeff Hardy at Extreme Rules.
An other one, which I think was awesome, slightly slow paced and still shocked me for Edge's ability to put on a none weapon based wrestling match, would have to be his match with John Morrison shortly after he lost his World Heavyweight Championship (sadly I can't remember the date, but as I said, shortly after he lost the belt).
He has definitely had some excellent matches after he's broken his neck. That's when he came up to the main event. What I'm referring to is his skills and moveset. Back before he broke his neck, he was a lot faster, had a more unique style, and his moves gelled better. He took a lot more risks. Not saying it changed much after, but there was definitely a noticeable difference. Either way, he's always been a great in-ring wrestler.
 
Edge is an amazing performer. Sure at a technical stand point he's no Bret Hart, but as far as risks, high impact, and back and forth wrestling goes, Edge is gold.

As reference you could look back at some of his older matches, and recent ones from last year. I remember a match against John Morrison from Smackdown last year that was just fantastic and really put Morrison over.

All in all, Edge is as great as I think he is!

Rated R Superstar for life. \m/
 
He has definitely had some excellent matches after he's broken his neck. That's when he came up to the main event. What I'm referring to is his skills and moveset. Back before he broke his neck, he was a lot faster, had a more unique style, and his moves gelled better. He took a lot more risks. Not saying it changed much after, but there was definitely a noticeable difference. Either way, he's always been a great in-ring wrestler.

Yes that's very true, I remember when I really got into watchint Edge, I wanted to watch his debut, watched it on youtube and the way he basically squashed the guy he was against surprised me cause he moved like I hadn't seen him move in recent time.
So yeah his move set has definitely changed after he broke his neck, yet he still remains a reliable force when it comes to putting on a great match.
 
I do beleive that Edge can wrestle.His matchs can be very exciting when he preforms well.Some of Edges matchs that stand out to me are the ones from 2002 I think with Eddie.The match at Summerslam was ok, then at Unforgiven they wen't better.Then on Smackdown it all came together.I was one of my favourite and still is.The match flowed well and the crowd was into it like it was the Main Event of a PPV.

Edge is as good as we think to answer your question.Just watch his matchs that he had with Jeff,Matt,Angle.Those ,atchs are great.
 
Edge may not be a "great" technical guy. He's not a great brawler. He's not a big, powerful guy either. But he always seems to put on a great match when it counts. He is really good at adapting to what the other guy brings to the table.

I am also a little annoyed with his current gimmick, and the yelling of "SPear, Spear, Spear, blah blah blah." I don't like his using of the spear, because I think it looks like shit coming from him. But with HBK and Taker leaving (at least for a while), WWE needs some guys, big name guys, to be babyfaces, and Edge is fine for that role.
 
Have you ever watched a Randy match?
Since when did say anything about randy. My rko 4 life is my signature. Don't be hating on me i just dont think edge is all that great. He's better as a heel.

You should really be putting it as your signature through User CP then, and stop changing the smiley, doesn't exactly make it look like a sig if you do that.

Besides, I'm not telling you to change your opinion, I'm just curious, how can you not think Edge is great?
Certainly he's a little overrated World title wise, all thou I have enjoyed his reigns, he has made a hell of a lot of world titles a little too fast.
But as I said, I enjoyed his reigns, he has had some great title matches, as champion and as challenger, namely some of his more hardcore matches alongside John Cena (yes Edge is probably one of the guys that glue me to a John Cena match, because they certainly put on some nice matches, extreme or not) and their promos together, brilliant feuding pair if you ask me.
Besides, I actually think it's a shame Edge isn't heel currently, certainly I don't mind him being face against Chris Jericho, because Jericho fits the heel role so well, but so does Edge, I mean just listen to his promos, his voice is so rugged that it sounds like he's in an angry mood all the time, perfect heel voice.
 
HEY LEE I hope your reading this.

Yeah I hope I am too, so I can infract the spam post.

Since when did say anything about randy.

Erm in your post when you said RKO4 Lyf or something to that effect.

My rko 4 life is my signature Damn.

Then why didn't you make it as your sig?

Don't be hating on me i just dont think edge is all that great. He's better as a heel.

I'm hating on you because you made a post criticising Edge but then praised Randy Orton. Edge is a great worker, not the best but better than most WWE have. He's pretty much on Randy's level, in fact probably better. Innovator of TLC as I said, yet you manage to diss him whilst telling us RKO 4 Life, that I found funny. The man has far too many title reigns, granted but he has proven for the past ten years he's consistent at being one of the best in the WWE.

So please if you're going to criticise someone in WWE, at least like someone who is proven to be better than him and then you have a valid opinion.
 
Edge is a solid In-Ring performer. He has some great Mic-skills and can cut a great promo all the time. Hes also a great heel. But as far as In-Ring work, Edge isnt that good. Jericho per example beats Edge in every aspect.( Mic-work, promos, Ringskills )..
If Edge works with other great guys like Jericho, Taker and Michaels, youll see definetily a good match always. But no, Edge is no Jericho, and no Michaels either.

And Thomasrko, be carefull what ya say. Calling Edge cant wrestle is a stretch. And its even funny you said that as an Orton-fan i guess. To tell ya what man, Orton is boring, 70% of his matches are headlocks and other holds. Randy" Headlock " Orton LOL. Hes also not a good Mic-worker. His viper gimmick is total bullshit too BTW.
 
Well, what can I say that hasn't already been said in one form or another? Everyone seems to agree that Edge is good on the stick, has the right look, and is entertaining. So, what then makes you question his actual wrestling ability? From what I have seen, which consists of his entire career, he is one of the best in ring performers going today.

Is he as technical as say Bret Hart or Chris Benoit was? No. Is he a great brawler like Austin was? Not really. Is he a real powerhouse like Batista or Taker for instance? No. Well than what does Edge have that makes him such a great wrestler in the ring?

I'll tell you. Edge is simply well rounded. There isn't one particular area where he is so great, he just is great. Edge is one of the most versatile wrestlers I personally have had the privileged of watching over the course of my days. He seems to have the uncanny ability to have a great match with anyone, and that is what makes Edge so damn good. Some guys need someone who can really work for them, or someone who can call a good match for them, and overall they just need help to have a good match. Edge on his own could probably wrestle a mop and have a good match.

Add to that, Edge can sell. He can really make you believe that he is writhing in pain, and that he is running on his last breath. Being able to sell is a major commodity in wrestling and he has that all day long. Shawn Michaels is a great example of a guy who can sell, when he takes an ass beating you feel it on your couch. Edge has the ability to make you feel it too. In selling really good, Edge makes anyone he is in the ring with that much better, and anyone who can elevate their opponent is truly a great performer. Look at the list of really great sellers in the industry and you will see guys who make their opponents look like gold every time out.

One of the things that makes Edge really good as well, is his ability not just to sell, not just to adjust, but to get the most out of every scenario which leads me to the gimmick matches. We already know that Edge was one of the innovators of the TLC match, but take a look at his work in other matches of that nature as well.

His hardcore match with Mick Foley at Wrestlemania 22 is still spectacular, and one of the best matches Foley has been in during this later half of his career. He and Undertaker had matches in HIAC and TLC which were both amazing, He and Batista have shared the Steel Cage, He and John Cena had a TLC match and a Last Man Standing match, he's won MITB, the list goes on and on. He has always had the ability to use the resources at his disposal to make a good match and worked well in those situations to make both he and his opponents look good. doing it in a regular match is one thing, but when the stakes are raised and you have to use tables, ladders, chairs, cages, and any other weapon to help make the match, that is a great quality not all wrestlers share.


For these reasons and more I would have to say that not only am I am Edge-head, but that I think he is one of the best performers in the WWE. With everything he has to offer and consistently brings to the table, there is really no way to count him out of the top tier. He is by far one of the stand out wrestlers of this decade, and looks to keep that up into this new one we have entered into.
 
I'm hating on you because you made a post criticising Edge but then praised Randy Orton. Edge is a great worker, not the best but better than most WWE have. He's pretty much on Randy's level, in fact probably better. Innovator of TLC as I said, yet you manage to diss him whilst telling us RKO 4 Life, that I found funny. The man has far too many title reigns, granted but he has proven for the past ten years he's consistent at being one of the best in the WWE.

So please if you're going to criticise someone in WWE, at least like someone who is proven to be better than him and then you have a valid opinion.

You really think Edge is a better WRESTLER not TLC or HARDCORE. Edge is amazing at TLC, but he sucks as a wrestler, when Edge was a heel, he would steel a win and we didn't know how good he was. Now he's a face we know not a good wrestler. Edge comparied to Orton as a (WRESTLER) Orton is way better.
 
Original Poster, I hate to tell you this, but you are just another person who comes onto internet wrestling forums to complain about faces. Faces try to make you like them, but people like you don't like the good guys, because you want a wrestler you should hate.

Edge at this point (and for about 6 more months) will be a face. He will still be wrestling the same style that he was as a heel, because that is what he is good at. Right now they are pushing his spear finisher because like the stunner, its a marketable gimmick. As the face, he wont wrestler much offense, instead wating to hit the move at the end to win his match.
 
I actually find it overwhelming to see good being said about Edge :)
I can't believe I used to hate on him just because of the feuds between him
and John Cena.. Looking back, I laugh at myself :lol:
Adam Copeland seems like a cool and approachable guy..
We could clearly see that if we check out his interviews outside WWE and all.
He's a good wrestler and knows to keep the WWE Universe interested
even if they hate him! It's his job to be the "bad guy" and "cheat" etc.
Many people just trash talk about him, it's sad they're immature enough to label
the wrestler as stupid/ugly just because of his character in WWE.
Simply a huge Edge head! \m/ He rocks the place, wherever he goes!
He knows what "entertaining" is ;)
:worship:
Hail the Rated-R Superstar \m/
 
Edge might not be a technical wonder child in the ring, but he certainly can put on a show you won't forget...

Which is reminiscent of John Cena and Steven Austin. It's been proven time and again that a wrestler doesn't have to be a technical marvel as long as he knows how to work, hit his spots, and finish effectively. Take SCSA: his "punches" looked like little love taps, yet he was considered a tough guy throughout his career.....because he knew how to project himself as tough.

I'll take Edge. He has more technical ability than he's given credit for, he sells well for his opponent, and he understands the psychology of an effective wrestling match.

When he came back from his latest injury, I wondered how long he could keep his career going. He looked as if it was time to call it quits. Instead, he seems to be getting stronger as time passes (either that or he's increased his Vicodin dosage:blush:) and it's pleasing to see how much better he's performing these past few months.

Yes, he's as good as we think he is.
 
Edge' greatest talent in the ring is simply his ability to take his style and adapt it to the style of his opponent. How many wrestler's can you say that about? Many wrestlers use the same moveset, and Edge is no different. But the way he uses that moveset is completely dependent on the opponent he is facing. Edge once called himself the "master psychologist", and when you look at his ring work, he truly is. Few people tell a story that coincides with their opponent the way Edge does.

Edge doesn't do anything great anymore. He's not aq great technical, chain, or mat wrestler. But if you put him in there with someone who is, it's very believable that he's just as good. Edge isn't a high flyer by any means, but he adapts his style to keep up with whomever he's in the ring with. I look bakc at his tag match at No Mercy when he and Rey Mysterio took on Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle. My favorite tag team match of all time. Mysterio was the aerilaist, Benoit and Angle the mat technicians. Edge stood out to me most in that match however, and that's because he adapted his style with both his opponents and with Rey to formulate a truly special match.

Edge is also the master of the gimmick match along with John Cena. His performances in TLC matches, Ladder Matches, Last Man Standing matches, and Hardcore matches are unparralled. He won match of the year in WWE with an aging Mick Foley in their Hardcore match at Wrestlemania 22. Why? Because he adapted his style to that of Foley's and helped create magic in the ring. I can't emphasize enough how many wrestlers simply perform their moveset no matter who their facing in the exact same way. Edge is different in that while he may utilize the same moveset(flapjack, Impaler DDT, spear) the way in which he uses it varies based upon the opponent. And because of it, Edge is something special to watch in the ring.

So damn right, Edge is every bit as good as he's given credit for, if not morel. Here's hoping he gets a long run as a face champion to truly shhow what he's capable of inside the ring to put doubters to rest.
 
Which is reminiscent of John Cena and Steven Austin. It's been proven time and again that a wrestler doesn't have to be a technical marvel as long as he knows how to work, hit his spots, and finish effectively. Take SCSA: his "punches" looked like little love taps, yet he was considered a tough guy throughout his career.....because he knew how to project himself as tough.

I'll take Edge. He has more technical ability than he's given credit for, he sells well for his opponent, and he understands the psychology of an effective wrestling match.

When he came back from his latest injury, I wondered how long he could keep his career going. He looked as if it was time to call it quits. Instead, he seems to be getting stronger as time passes (either that or he's increased his Vicodin dosage:blush:) and it's pleasing to see how much better he's performing these past few months.

Yes, he's as good as we think he is.

Exactly.

This is similar to the Daniel Bryan/John Cena debate of who is the better wrestler. Being a good wrestler doesn't just come down to technical wrestling. It's about bringing the ability to make your opponent look good, being safe in the ring, investing the crowd emotionally in a match, and just being all-around entertaining. Bringing all these things together is what makes a good performer, and Edge is certainly all these things. He speaks well on the mic and performs well everytime he goes out to the ring.

If anything, he is better than we think he is.
 
This is weird but I am one guy you'll find with the contravening opinion to everybody else posting I here, I honestly thought this would be a little more split. I have never been impressed with edge in ANY respect, absolutely any. The fact of the amount of title reigns he has had aside, for me edge is barely world champ material.

It's strange how you phrased your question. He is obviously as good as we think he is, it would be logically impossible for him not to be but that is straying off topic really. But if I had to answer your question in the way I think you want it to be answered I'd say that Edge is, in my opinion, as good as I think he is which is not very good at all.

I feel that in the ring he comes across as petty lethargic, but not in a randy orton methodically picking apart the opponent kind of way, in a fashion that actually makes him look slow and worn out. His move set is not an issue at all as many and most WWE guys have a very limited move pool that they use often in the ring, and in longer matches like most guys, he can pull out different stuff that makes the match better. But in the ring for me he always looks deflated and everything he does is un-hyped, almost like every victory he gets is a surprise. I have also always hated that poor excuse for a spear that he calls his finisher. I understand it is supposed to be his own innovation of the move, but it just ended look looking so weak because your basically slamming the guy into the ground from about 2ft away from it. OK that isn't a flaw in edge himself, more his move set but no matter. That isn't to say i think his execution is poor, I have always liked his impaler DDT or Edgecution and think that should be his finisher because it looks far more deadly. But as a whole although he has had some LONG matches, I've never seen one which was, for me, particularly good.

The category where he would therefore have to save himself would be talking. I don't like the way he does it, not one little bit. He is another one of those guys who sounds like a breathing, eating, sleeping Teleprompter with a voice. Nothing he does with a microphone has ever been globally branded as superb or ground-breaking or memorable, certainly I cannot remember any such example unlike guys like punk or Barrett or even cena who have segments that people will at least talk about for the week leading up to the following show, edge just talks and I breeze over. In a sport where I value the ability of improvisation highly, edge certainly scores lowly for me. They ave even had the exact same problem with edge that they had with another guy who isn't a great talker, John Morrison, on being unable to lock him down to any feud or angle for very long. One week he's spearing Jericho, then he's drafted to raw and turns heel....fair enough, then he turns face he's face on team raw at Summerslam but quickly heel again with Jericho walking out, then he's a tweener on raw feuding with stupidity and the GM, then he is full blown face on Smackdown again. A lack of ideas and direction for a now 10-time world champ is a worrying thing.

He is one of very few, perhaps 3 or more guys who won king of the ring and not been elevated to stardom shortly thereafter. That to me, like it did for the man formerly known as King Mabel, screams lack of potential and raw ability to make it on the first attempt unlike guys like Sheamus and Barrett who have taken a push and used it to cement themselves as a long-term option higher on the card. It wasn't until about 2004 where he began to build up a head of steam. His former tag team partner Christian was also beginning to really flourish at this time except whilst edge was locked up in tag team competition earning little mic time, Christian was taking on the rising star in John Cena and being very impressive doing it, not to mention the fact that he had no KOTR victory to fall back on. Before leaving, Christian was actually main eventing and had his own stooge whilst edge was starting to make head-way as a singles competitor. That likely tells you Christian was or is a better package, and if that's true then your in trouble because Christian isn't god's gift to wrestling, he's just pretty good.

The best work of his career by far was during his feud with John cena in 2006 where his promo work noticeably picked up, but anything he did since or before that was pretty mediocre. And addressing the entire innovator of TLC argument. I see Edge similar to the Hardy's or Dudley's in that match where they are just lucky that the match didn't involve and technical wrestling just a great deal of spots, and the match ended up being a lot better than the guys who took part in it on that day.

If I rated Edge as a performer, I'd say he was barely on the upper side of average in and amongst the same tier as Jack Swagger and diagnose him as good enough to be a multiple time tag team and intercontinental champ. And with the longevity and perseverance despite injuries in his career he may have been deserved of one, maybe two world title reigns maximum, because there is no way in heel he is better than Chris Jericho, especially not to the point of having more than twice his number of title reigns.

The best things I can think about him are his look, his theme and the length of his career, but nothing he has ever done as I said has impressed me to the point of me considering him to be anything more than alright.


Then again if we all agreed this thread would be hella boring, so thank god I don't like Edge eh? Praise the opinionated everywhere for the immortal phrase IMO, and apply it to that behemoth works I just scribbled down.
 
Alex'eddytiger'Waters said:
It wasn't until about 2004 where he began to build up a head of steam.
While I agree that you're entirely entitled to your opinion, I have to disagree with you on this. After winning the 2001 King of the Ring, Edge got an almost immediate push. He won the Intercontinental Title and the United States Title at the same time, unifying them. He then went on to have a very good feud with Kurt Angle, which resulted in Angle getting his head shaved. He was main eventing SmackDown while feuding with Angle and Benoit, and was about to start a feud with Brock Lesnar for the WWE Title before he was injured. He had quite the head of steam as a face during these days, and probably would have won a World Title much earlier than 2006 if he wouldn't have broken his neck.

Like I said in an earlier post in this thread, Edge hasn't been the same since he broke his neck. I can see how some people would find his in ring work lethargic and not up to par with his old stuff, but you have to take into account all the injuries he's suffered over the years. I honestly don't think he has much juice left in him because of all the injuries, and it's obviously slowed down his in-ring work. He still remains entertaining though, in my opinion.
 
Yes Edge is still good, perhaps not as good as he once was but he is still good, and he is certainly much better now that he has undergone a much needed face turn. He is still capable of cutting good promos, having great matches and he is getting amazingly good reactions from the crowd at the moment, sure as hell doesn't sound like a bad wrestler to me. Sure he is no master from a technical standpoint but he is more than capable of having good matches, even post neck surgery, if you want proof of that then his WM matches with Taker and Jericho were both very good and they were after his neck surgery.
 

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