Impact Support Club House

[It's Damn Real!]

It's hard to lay blame at any single person's feet. TNA has never *really* been on solid footing since day one. Jarrett nearly put them under, then Dixie's money saved them, then Dixie nearly put them under. And sprinkled all throughout were Mantell, Russo (like eight times), Bischoff, Hogan, and pretty much everyone under the sun.

And the entire time, they were fighting against a very vocal internet fanbase who couldn't stand them. Whether it was giving Raven the title, how Ron Killings was booked, bringing in too many WWE guys, etc.

TNA to me are like a boxer just getting POUNDED in the fight. Still standing, won't quit, won't go down, but just getting nailed with combinations, and every time you think they've got something because they counter with something, within a few seconds they're right back to just getting lit up.

 

[Starkist]

True, and solid points IDR. TNA is Dixie Carter not having a clue on what to do. Her "street smarts" are not what you use in a business.

Who knows what's going to happen but this doesn't seem to good.

 

[hatehabsforever]

But oh well, if this is the end, this is the end. I just hope GFW gets off the ground so I've got something to fall into again, like I had with TNA when WCW went under.

Have you ever given ROH a try? Personally I really have not, and the few times I have tried to watch it, it didn't really appeal to me. If TNA in fact does go under (and even though I haven't watched it now in a couple of years, I truly hope it doesn't), I would expect that's where a lot of the TNA guys will end up, and that could help build ROH into a legitimate company which may hold some of the same appeal for you that TNA has.

I don't think I'd be holding out too much hope for GFW. If WWE continues to not suit your taste, ROH might be your best bet. That's assuming, of course, that this truly is the end of TNA. Which I'm not convinced of. It's not the first time TNA has been on the precipice, and they've managed to somehow survive. Hopefully there's another rabbit in their hat again.

 

[klunderbunker]

It's hard to lay blame at any single person's feet. TNA has never *really* been on solid footing since day one. Jarrett nearly put them under, then Dixie's money saved them, then Dixie nearly put them under. And sprinkled all throughout were Mantell, Russo (like eight times), Bischoff, Hogan, and pretty much everyone under the sun.

And the entire time, they were fighting against a very vocal internet fanbase who couldn't stand them. Whether it was giving Raven the title, how Ron Killings was booked, bringing in too many WWE guys, etc.

TNA to me are like a boxer just getting POUNDED in the fight. Still standing, won't quit, won't go down, but just getting nailed with combinations, and every time you think they've got something because they counter with something, within a few seconds they're right back to just getting lit up.

They did, but there were so many times that TNA tied their own shoes together and fell on their face instead of getting punched down. There are so many things they did that shot themselves in the foot over and over. That's why they seem to be going under now.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Have you ever given ROH a try? Personally I really have not, and the few times I have tried to watch it, it didn't really appeal to me. If TNA in fact does go under (and even though I haven't watched it now in a couple of years, I truly hope it doesn't), I would expect that's where a lot of the TNA guys will end up, and that could help build ROH into a legitimate company which may hold some of the same appeal for you that TNA has.

I don't think I'd be holding out too much hope for GFW. If WWE continues to not suit your taste, ROH might be your best bet. That's assuming, of course, that this truly is the end of TNA. Which I'm not convinced of. It's not the first time TNA has been on the precipice, and they've managed to somehow survive. Hopefully there's another rabbit in their hat again.

Yes. Not my cup of tea. Looks too low rent. Which I'm sure is going to make some folks laugh when they see it coming from the mouth of a TNA fan, but to me TNA's production is still better than what ROH is doing last I watched (the whole Elgin/AJ thing).

I can't really put my finger on what it is I dislike, but I just can't seem to get into it.

To be honest, I'm just tired of getting beaten up on. I feel like that guy who goes all in on the horse he just knows is gonna win, who loses. And I'm left there with a fuckin' piece of paper and empty pockets to show for it every time.

I'll probably just step away for a while. That's what I did with WCW. Came back whatever it was, three, four years later just before TNA got their Spike contract.

 

[ABMorales787]

You really think GFW is gonna get off the ground and straight into TV? TNA isn't the only one dealing with the shitty advertisers nonsense. Lucha Underground has that issue too. The money they're gonna make is gonna have to come from syndication. If it weren't for the fact that it's a pet project of Burnett and Rodriguez and the network is theirs, LU would be done for too before it could stand a chance.

 

[Dirk]

 

[Lowdown]

Will I guess this makes Mark Madden happy. I hope this isn't true. But if it is here's to hoping that a lot of the stars and other workers find their footing elsewhere. Just a total bummer.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

LU is actually pretty cool. I just always forget to watch it.

Brian Cage... man did TNA miss the fuckin' boat with that guy.

 

[ABMorales787]

LU is actually pretty cool. I just always forget to watch it.

Brian Cage... man did TNA miss the fuckin' boat with that guy.

The Brian Cage that came to TNA and this one are 2 totally different people. And if you like LU, I suggest people also check AAA. This week's show has an awesome 3 Way match with Fenix, King Cuerno and Electroshock.

 

[ABMorales787]

The news just popped up on the top trends of Facebook. The main source? Meltzer.

Thanks, bud. Fucking over a company twice.

 

[Rayne]

Oh dear. The boards are going to be an interesting place over the next few days.

Can't wait to hear what TJ Perkins has to say about this.

 

[Alex]

I don't know how much of a plausable outcome this is but is it possible that TNA could be moving to a different Discovery channel, similar to how shows go from Fox to FXX??

If not it really sucks for TNA

 

[Rayne]

I don't know how much of a plausable outcome this is but is it possible that TNA could be moving to a different Discovery channel, similar to how shows go from Fox to FXX??

If not it really sucks for TNA

Not plausible in the event of cancellation. That's the equivalent of going to a yard sale and buying all the stuff you already own. If "cancellation" is dirtspeak for "program realignment" it could be- and earlier this year, Discovery's COO did announce a major shift in the type of content that they'd be producing going forward.

Unfortunately, he used the words "we're done putting out made-up bullshit", so I'm not sure if there's a soft landing elsewhere in the Discovery ecosystem.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

The Brian Cage that came to TNA and this one are 2 totally different people. And if you like LU, I suggest people also check AAA. This week's show has an awesome 3 Way match with Fenix, King Cuerno and Electroshock.

I like the LU matches, and a lot of the wrestlers, but the show itself is still weird to me. Plus I don't like Stryker at all.

The Mexican soap opera thing before hand with the super close-up facial expression shots, the fact that like 80% of the roster wears masks, etc. just doesn't appeal to me. I'm not Mexican, so it's not really marketed for me.

I doubt it's something I'd get into full-time, and it'd certainly not be the type of safety net I'm talking about needing.

At the end of the day, I view TNA like I view the New York Rangers — they're my team. My brand. Having them go under is like having the Rangers go under. When someone comes to me and says "just watch WWE, they're the best", what they're really saying is "Just watch the Devils, they're the best".

I'd sooner stop watching hockey than watch a team or company I ethically despise.

 

[Rayne]

Lost in the shuffle of news yesterday was that Eric Bischoff filed a lawsuit against TNA, claiming, of course, unpaid wages.

http://411mania.com/wrestling/eric-bischoff-sues-tna-for-breach-of-contract/

The most interesting thing revealed by this lawsuit, if not a surprising thing at all, was that Garrett Bischoff being brought into TNA was a condition of the deal between TNA and Bischoff/Hervey. Ugh.

 

[Dirk]

Does Easy E have none of his own money?

 

[Rayne]

Does Easy E have none of his own money?

As a matter of principle, when someone owes you money, you try to collect.

According to the lawsuit though, between Bischoff, Little Bischoff, and Harvey, they were getting around $400k a year. (Which is extremely ballpark based upon claims made in the suit, and doesn't factor in any kind of incentive bonuses, etc.) Eric Bischoff has done alright for himself compared to the average person, and I do worship him as professional wrestling's greatest con artist ever (that's a compliment), but he's not wealthy in and of himself. He has enough money that he really doesn't have to work if he doesn't want to, but not so much that you just forget about a hundred grand.

 

[Dirk]

I do worship him as professional wrestling's greatest con artist ever (that's a compliment), but he's not wealthy in and of himself.

That's what I was getting at. Dude seems free with other people's money, as if it's his own.

 

[Rayne]

That's what I was getting at. Dude seems free with other people's money, as if it's his own.

And gets away with it, time after time after time, yet he's still able to retire comfortably at any point he chooses.

There's a lesson to be learned here.

 

[Papa Pillman]

I'm still dumbfounded that this "report" has taken the legs that it has.

Believing Observer reports as they pertain to TNA is the exact equivalent of believing FoxNews reports as they pertain to the Obama administration.

Until something definitive is confirmed by either TNA or DestAm/Discovery, I'm gonna take this "report" for what it likely is- complete bullshit.

 

[Rayne]

I'm still dumbfounded that this "report" has taken the legs that it has.

Believing Observer reports as they pertain to TNA is the exact equivalent of believing FoxNews reports as they pertain to the Obama administration.

Until something definitive is confirmed by either TNA or DestAm/Discovery, I'm gonna take this "report" for what it likely is- complete bullshit.

It's a matter of the degree of the lie we'd be talking about here. This would be a major, major thing to just make up, at the expense of a huge amount of credibility. People love to shit on Meltzer, but when you read between all of the stuff that gets put out because people expect a newsletter on a certain regular basis, he's usually pretty close with the big stuff. Besides a cheap website hit for a few days, what's the point of making this up?

TNA also has a leak problem (Dixie addressed this in that recent interview-fluff session she did), and trying to once again ensure your company's future on short notice is not the kind of thing that you can keep between a couple of trusted people for very long.

It's more likely a true thing than a false thing, and all of the reasons make sense. Bringing professional wrestling to a niche channel in an era of cable contraction was a huge gamble from the beginning.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Statement from TNA Regarding IMPACT WRESTLING

It has come to our attention that several internet news sources have falsely attributed statements to TNA, its executives and broadcasting partner. These false statements constitute defamation and if necessary we will seek all legal remedies available to us.

http://www.1wrestling.com/2015/05/21/tna-issues-statement-regarding-false-rumors-on-the-internet/

 

[ABMorales787]

Shit just got real. About time someone got a slap on the wrist.

 

[klunderbunker]

We'll see how that goes. It comes off like banging your chest at this point.