Impact Support Club House

[Starkist]

Apparently working for TNA is hell and disgruntling; especially since it is not ROH or NJPW.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Apparently working for TNA is hell and disgruntling; especially since it is not ROH or NJPW.

I'm not saying that. Davey Richars was unhappy in ROH, Kenny King was unhappy in ROH, Austin Aries was unhappy in ROH, all three went to TNA. But if any TNA fan, mark, whatever, wants to seriously imply that the people they have contracted to their roster either a) aren't unhappy or b) have no reason to be unhappy, then you're deluded. Last month they didn't know if they would be in the job come 2015. Magnus especially has the right to be unhappy because his World Championship run was horrible and they turned him into whatever the hell he is now. I'd tell you but to be honest from reading spoilers and from reading what other TNA fans say, nobody knows, except he plays second fiddle to Kenneth Cameron despite the fact Magnus is better than him in almost every way.

 

[Starkist]

I'm not saying that. Davey Richars was unhappy in ROH, Kenny King was unhappy in ROH, Austin Aries was unhappy in ROH, all three went to TNA. But if any TNA fan, mark, whatever, wants to seriously imply that the people they have contracted to their roster either a) aren't unhappy or b) have no reason to be unhappy, then you're deluded. Last month they didn't know if they would be in the job come 2015. Magnus especially has the right to be unhappy because his World Championship run was horrible and they turned him into whatever the hell he is now. I'd tell you but to be honest from reading spoilers and from reading what other TNA fans say, nobody knows, except he plays second fiddle to Kenneth Cameron despite the fact Magnus is better than him in almost every way.

I know Saga, I'm just messing with you. It's something that happens anywhere anyone works. We all get tired of bullshit eventually.

Mangus has feel beyond a black hole. I find him boring myself but that could have changed with better booking. Let him be himself and if he's not happy in TNA I wish him success else where. This is why I never wish death on any wrestling company because sometimes it might be all these people know.

 

[Starkist]

I know Saga, I'm just messing with you. It's something that happens anywhere anyone works. We all get tired of bullshit eventually.

Mangus has feel beyond a black hole. I find him boring myself but that could have changed with better booking. Let him be himself and if he's not happy in TNA I wish him success else where. This is why I never wish death on any wrestling company because sometimes it might be all these people know.

I hate typing on a phone. Supposed to say fell beyond not feel beyond. Sounds horrible.

I got happy after waking up from a nap that I apparently took and was like "sweet TNA is finally on tomorrow". Then went to look at the time and DVR (that I don't have) and realized it was not on. Ugh withdrawals from this stupid medicine is making me stupid. Come on January!

 

[Lowdown]

I'm not gonna read too much into Magnus' statements. Hell he may very well be disgruntled. But it's like that fire a lot of folks at a lot of jobs. As Stephen A. would say, this is a mere bag of shells.

 

[Papa Pillman]

I'd tell you but to be honest from reading spoilers and from reading what other TNA fans say, nobody knows, except he plays second fiddle to Kenneth Cameron despite the fact Magnus is better than him in almost every way.

These are the kinds of misconceptions that come from not actually watching the product. I'm not denying that Magnus is playing second fiddle to Bram, but anyone watching TNA right now would attest that that is how it should be. Bram has shown more presence in his run in TNA than Magnus has displayed in years, even through a World Title run. Magnus has been carried by superior tag partners(Williams, Nigel, Joe) and made a joke of as a World Champ, something that he could've done himself without the sabotage booking because he was so obviously inferior to his chief competition.

Aside from being a more eloquent promo(note: not necessarily a better promo) than Bram, I'm not sure there is a single way in which Magnus is currently the clearly better of the two. Somewhere a couple years ago Magnus's development seemingly slowed and has lately appeared to stop, while Thomas Latimer has shown even more of a presence than he did with the Ascension, without the over-the-top entrance and creepy gimmick, and has been growing by bounds as he is settling in and finding his lane with TNA.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

I heard he was being put over Magnus, who has a much broader appeal, who was a goldmine TNA should have tapped into, and that his "King of Hardcore" shtick they've put him on was just a way to bring Tommy Dreamer back into the mix because supposedly Dreamer's like one of TNA's biggest draws - which is really telling of where they are as a company when they have to promote shows off the ruins of a guy who was never really that good, and most of the time I actually like Dreamer. But since they had nothing else for him they just continued putting him in non-sensical hardcore matches which don't actually show him to have any talent but instead that he can bleed and look mean. Tell me if any of that is wrong, I'll apologize for not understanding what I've seen other sources I trust write.

 

[ABMorales787]

Bram'll be good when they stop booking him against ECW guys and not trying to turn him into skinny Abyss.

As for Magnus..... Yeah, he tanked on his own accord.

 

[Papa Pillman]

I heard he was being put over Magnus, who has a much broader appeal, who was a goldmine TNA should have tapped into, and that his "King of Hardcore" shtick they've put him on was just a way to bring Tommy Dreamer back into the mix because supposedly Dreamer's like one of TNA's biggest draws - which is really telling of where they are as a company when they have to promote shows off the ruins of a guy who was never really that good, and most of the time I actually like Dreamer. But since they had nothing else for him they just continued putting him in non-sensical hardcore matches which don't actually show him to have any talent but instead that he can bleed and look mean. Tell me if any of that is wrong, I'll apologize for not understanding what I've seen other sources I trust write.

The facts aren't wrong, its the spin and the sentiment that I question.

He was brought in as someone who was very violent and wanted to use weapons and hurt people, as a way to try and transition Magnus to getting some edge back. In reality what happened is Bram was clearly the star of the duo and they naturally started booking him in violent matches that fit the character and he thrived in them. So the shtick has become him defeating "hardcore legends" in hardcore matches(like Abyss, Dreamer, and Devon). Also, the matches against Abyss were actually VERY impressive and fun watches that over-delivered, especially the "Stairway to Janice" match.

The character may be mostly "bleed and look mean" but the guy is really good at it, and that gimmick has worked in the past(and is works better than anything that they have tried to do with Magnus).

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I want you to give me a straight up, no bullshit answer here.

If you worked for TNA, knowing everything you know and after everything that has happened over the past few months, hell year - fuck it - THREE YEARS, how would you not be disgruntled?

Because, shocking as it may be, I believe in the product.

That's all it takes. Confidence and hope that you can accomplish what you set out to accomplish, regardless of how often you fall over.

 

[Dirk]

I've always considered myself a bit of an Anglophile, but Bram and Magnus are two of very few people in TNA I just can't get behind.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

@TNADixie: I want to share with you first the new @IMPACTWRESTLING logo! Now share with your friends. LOTS more to come today! http://t.co/JkYtoeZUss

 

[Dirk]

I like how there's a six-sided ring in the logo.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

As a designer, I'm not a fan. The letter-spacing is all off, the blue bar/slash thing is way too close to "IMPACT", etc. Not that the last logo was all that great either, but this just doesn't do it for me.

The old-old logo actually did a better job than this of incorporating the six-sided ring into the design.

I'd have played off that logo, with that style type-face (big, thick, bold) but would have gone with all caps across the board IMPACT with the exclamation mark utilizing the six-sided ring as part of it.

I don't really care, though. I'm just glad the company is sticking around.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm not wild on the "Im" in Impact. The rest looks fine but that part doesn't look great.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

The whole thing just isn't very good. The designer in me is going to be annoyed every time I see it, but thems the breaks. I'm much more interested and focused in/on the product itself. Plenty of products out there have bad logos. It's not the end of the road. You can find success in spite of bad branding.

 

[Dirk]

It looks a little more streamlined, kind of how the new WWE (or just "W" ) evolved from the cruder scratched logo. Sleek is in, blocky and cracked is out.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I'm not talking about the cracked aspect. I'm only taking about the letter thickness, the treatment of the term "IMPACT" with... well, impact. That means bold.

Again, as a designer, it's my job to convey this type of thing. Built Tough is Ford's slogan. You know how they display it? Boldly.

That's how the IMPACT logo should have been treated. This is too... futuristic. The angle/italicizing just doesn't fit.

 

[Dirk]

Yeah, but this way they don't have to change it when hover-tights get invented!

 

[ABMorales787]

Keep in mind that's just a static image. How's it gonna look when it's full motion with animation and background is the question.

 

[Lowdown]

The logo won't break or make TNA (at least I think). I'm not all that crazy about the ROH logo but I still watch.

 

[JamJam]

I like the new logo but I'm biased towards anything blue really. It does look futuristic and the six sided ring is an interesting thing to add to the logo. If anything, it makes me more excited about TNA's re-debut.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

That logo is pretty awful. Much preferred the old or the one they were using today.

 

[ABMorales787]

That logo is pretty awful. Much preferred the old or the one they were using today.

You think this one was better? It's so ridiculously simple and with the simplistic animations it was worse. It was huge step back for them. Hopefully this new one is accompanied by good animation.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

A logo is supposed to be simple. Look at the Nike logo, the Sony logo, look at the Universal logo as a standstill. They're one word in a font on a black background. The new logo has a gradient - it's like something out of 2000. The fonts are all over the place. I can see three alone as it is. Also it looks like the logo for an eFed. Doesn't help. You're right though, with the right animation it could look good, but I just read the newsletter and TNA are going to be cutting a lot of costs in production to pay wrestlers so the cool animations may become a thing of the past.

Speaking of the newsletter, this is why Santana Garrett/Brittany was released:

Santana Garrett (Brittany), 26, who was in the middle of the Samuel Shaw and Gunner storyline, was offered a one-year deal but turned it down and is likely going to work indies. TNA who are in cost cutting mode offered her half of what she was already getting but wouldn't let her do specific indie events to make up the money. Garrett wouldn't have been making enough money to live on so opted to reject the offer. She wants a deal that allows her to work all-women based indies like Shine and SHIMMER Women Athlete's who were her primary bookings prior to joining TNA. She’s looking at doing both modeling and more wrestling. She worked the Shine iPPV on 12/5, which she couldn’t have done with TNA. However, the dialogue between the sides isn’t dead and it’s possible they could end up doing business before the next tapings and keep the storyline going.