I have a request that a new wrestler be inducted into the WZ Hall of Fame.

[Milkyway!]

If its currently accepting new members, why isn't there anyone but Ric Flair in the Hall of Fame?

So I ask, beloved WrestleZone members. Can we please induct a new star into the WZ Hall of Fame? His name and face are known all over the world.

Thats right! Hulk Hogan!

The fact that this man wasn't the very first wrestler we inducted into our Hall of Fame disgusts me. This man created the WWE, WrestleMania, WcW, and has given his life, and body for us, the fans. Hulk Hogan was the first of his class. The fans absolutely loved him. Without Hulk, we here at the WrestleZone forums, may not be sitting here, praising the WWE. So, what say you! WrestleZone members. Do the right thing. Put Hulk Hogan in the WZ Hall of Fame.

We need 80% of you saying yes. Lets put Hulk in our Hall of Fame. At the end of the week, if we're above 80% Hulk Hogan should go into the WZ hall of Fame.

 

[X]

It's fairly obvious why he hasn't been brought up Milky--- it's blatantly obvious he's a HOFer.

But, as usual, I have to disagree with you. Hulk Hogan did not create the WWF. The WWF was selling out Madison Square Garden long before Hogan ever entered the picture. Long before. Hulk Hogan did not create the WWE Milky, he was just lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. And you claim he created the WCW? Ha, have you started using drugs Milky? Hogan sure helped WCW but to say he created it is beyond absurd, and utterly false.

Of course Hogan deserves in though. He's Hulk Hogan. 'Nuff said.

 

[Milkyway!]

It's fairly obvious why he hasn't been brought up Milky--- it's blatantly obvious he's a HOFer.

Sure. The WZ Hall of Fame says Ric Flair is the only! man in the WZ Hall of Fame. We need some Hulk Hogan in there.

But, as usual, I have to disagree with you.

Yay! A debate!

Hulk Hogan did not create the WWF.

Of course not. But without Hulk Hogan, I highly doubt the WWE would have made it to the international scale they're in right now. Without Hulk Hogan in the WWE, we could very well be watching the AWA, instead of the WWE. Assuming he stayed with the AWA, that is. Its a personal opinion.

The WWF was selling out Madison Square Garden long before Hogan ever entered the picture. Long before.

Who said they weren't?

Hulk Hogan did not create the WWE Milky, he was just lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.

He did enough for it, to be considered one of the founding fathers of the WWE, in my book though.

And you claim he created the WCW? Ha, have you started using drugs Milky?

I took about 15 Tylonyle for my back earlier. Does that count?

Hogan sure helped WCW but to say he created it is beyond absurd, and utterly false.

Of course. But, I like to use propaganda in this type of thread.

Of course Hogan deserves in though. He's Hulk Hogan. 'Nuff said.

Damn straight.

 

[Slyfox696]

Hulk Hogan was one of the first inductees in the WZ Hall of Fame, at least when I was running it a couple years ago. I turned it over to Sam, and I think he wanted to restart it. Apparently he got busy with the Tag Tournament, and hasn't been paying attention to this.


Here was the first class when I was running it.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=12965

 

[Milkyway!]

Hulk Hogan was one of the first inductees in the WZ Hall of Fame, at least when I was running it a couple years ago.

I remember this. But as it stands, with the "real" WZ Hall of Fame Sam has written up for us, Hulk Hogan is not in the WrestleZone hall of fame, as he should be. So, vote yes!

Apparently he got busy with the Tag Tournament, and hasn't been paying attention to this.

Understandable. I'll bring it back to his attention with this hopefully!

Here was the first class when I was running it.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=12965

I've never seen Muta's face without the paint. That was awesome. A very nice class. Allthough, I think you're missing guys like Misiwa, and Killer Kowalski! How can you have Sting, and not Andre The Giant!?

 

[Slyfox696]

Understandable. I'll bring it back to his attention with this hopefully!

I would love to do it, I'm just terrible with maintaining things. I'm good on the creating end, terrible on the actual doing end.

I've never seen Muta's face without the paint. That was awesome. A very nice class. Allthough, I think you're missing guys like Misiwa, and Killer Kowalski! How can you have Sting, and not Andre The Giant!?

We had it set up in categories. Offhand, I think it was something like Promoter, Manager, WWF pre-1985, WWF post-1985, AWA/Independent/International, and NWA/WCW, and people voted in those areas.

Or something like that.

So, Bruno got the pre-1985 induction, Hogan got the post 1985 induction...and that left Andre out. Muta got the International induction.


It was something like that.

 

[Milkyway!]

I would love to do it, I'm just terrible with maintaining things. I'm good on the creating end, terrible on the actual doing end.

Ahh. You should let me do it, instead of Sam then! >.> I tease. Even so, its a great idea.

We had it set up in categories. Offhand, I think it was something like Promoter, Manager, WWF pre-1985, WWF post-1985, AWA/Independent/International, and NWA/WCW, and people voted in those areas.

Ahh. Very nice, I personally would have taken in two from each catagory. Theres just too many great professional wrestlers to not take more than one. The first class, should always be the most special. But your catagories, are certainly nice.

Or something like that.

So, Bruno got the pre-1985 induction, Hogan got the post 1985 induction...and that left Andre out. Muta got the International induction.

Hmm, I'm suprised people went for Bruno over Buddy Rogers. What do you think about that?

It was something like that.

You need to vote yes in the poll. Please?

 

[Slyfox696]

Ahh. You should let me do it, instead of Sam then! >.> I tease. Even so, its a great idea.

If Sam doesn't want it, he can turn it over to whomever he wants.

Ahh. Very nice, I personally would have taken in two from each catagory. Theres just too many great professional wrestlers to not take more than one. The first class, should always be the most special. But your catagories, are certainly nice.

The whole point was to make it prestigious. If we take two in each class, then we will quickly run out of greats. If you take it slow, then you will not.

Hmm, I'm suprised people went for Bruno over Buddy Rogers. What do you think about that?

I'm not sure Buddy Rogers was nominated or not. I honestly don't remember.

 

[Milkyway!]

If Sam doesn't want it, he can turn it over to whomever he wants.

I'll PM him! Right now >.>

The whole point was to make it prestigious. If we take two in each class, then we will quickly run out of greats. If you take it slow, then you will not.

Makes semse now.

I'm not sure Buddy Rogers was nominated or not. I honestly don't remember.

I was asking who would you prefer WWE pre 1985, Buddy Rogers, or Bruno Sammartino.

On one hand, you have one of the greatest technical wrestlers in the world, Burno Sammartino, that took from the business, yet has hardly ever given back.

On the other hand, you have a man in Buddy Rogers, who was equally as good as Bruno. That could very well have made some of the biggest names in WWE histories career, in Jimmy Snuka, Ken Patera, Gene Anderson, and Big John Studd. Most notably, Ric Flair, in 1978. Giving him his first massive rub.

 

[Slyfox696]

I was asking who would you prefer WWE pre 1985, Buddy Rogers, or Bruno Sammartino.

I would take Bruno. Bruno was Hogan before Bollea was Hogan.

On one hand, you have one of the greatest technical wrestlers in the world, Burno Sammartino, that took from the business, yet has hardly ever given back.

You shouldn't speak on things you don't know about. Bruno one of the greatest technical wrestlers in the world? Not hardly. Furthermore, Bruno gave back FAR more than he took to the wrestling business, in terms of making Capitol Wrestling/WWWF/WWF/WWE money.

On the other hand, you have a man in Buddy Rogers, who was equally as good as Bruno. That could very well have made some of the biggest names in WWE histories career, in Jimmy Snuka, Ken Patera, Gene Anderson, and Big John Studd. Most notably, Ric Flair, in 1978. Giving him his first massive rub.

Both would be fine choices.

 

[Milkyway!]

I would take Bruno. Bruno was Hogan before Bollea was Hogan.

A great choice. No doubt.

You shouldn't speak on things you don't know about. Bruno one of the greatest technical wrestlers in the world? Not hardly.

I've only seen a couple of Bruno Sammartino matches, and he was quite technical in what he did in those matches. Please, direct me to matches he wasn't technical in? Its how you define the word technical. I would consider many wrestlers to be technical, that probably aren't. To me, theres four types of wrestling.

1.) Technical - You have your radicals, in Bret Hart, and then you have your less technical wrestlers like Bruno Sammartino.

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In this match Bruno used several grappling moves, a few high flying, a few powerhouse moves and overall was a nice striker. Instead of being one of the three catagories below, I consider him to be more of an all around style wrestler. Which, makes him more technical, than one of the three catagories below. Allthough I can certainly see your point in Bruno not being technical, he was quite the slugger in his day.

I would also consider someone like Kurt Angle to be quite technical in the way he works, even though he has lots of amatuer wrestling moves, a few grapples here and there, etc. But basically the guy is a suplex monkey and a half in his own right, which would honestly make me consider him a spot monkey. But, where he has an all around style to him as well, I personally would consider him a technical wrestler.

2.) Spot Monkies - Guys who use high-flying moves, or even suplexes to make their wrestling look more apealing to the eye. Obviously Jeff hardy or Rey Mysterio would be the best example for recent memories. You could also consider Kurt Angle in this area.

3.) Power Houses - Guys like Hulk Hogan, Batista, John Cena, etc would be my best example of a power house. They don't have a huge amount of moves on their side, but when they do hit you with the moves they have, its basically over.

4.) Smashmouth - This is probably where Bruno Sammartino truely belongs in the eyes of many. But, I just can't get past the fact that he has a few grappling moves, a few high flying, a few power house moves, along with his Smashmouth style he used. So I can certainly see your point as to why Bruno wouldn't belong in the technical area, I just consider him a technical superstar, because he did have nice all around abilities to him.

Honestly, if you feel any of my catagories are skewed, or incorrect. You're my most respected poster, and I would probably change my opinions quite fast if you told me diffrently.

Furthermore, Bruno gave back FAR more than he took to the wrestling business, in terms of making Capitol Wrestling/WWWF/WWF/WWE money.

He completely turned his back on the business, and I feel he never really passed the torch like he should have done. In terms of actual live TV, he didn't give his share back. But yes, he was the Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, and John Cena of his day. Certainly made the WWF their share of money, and can also be credited with helping the WWF takeover of all the territories, along with Hogan and McMahon. No?

I could be wrong on that Takeover of the territories, as I'm not exactly sure when McMahon started to push everyone else off the map.

Both would be fine choices.

Indeed.