How would you feel about Cena VS Ziggler at WM31?

[LODemolition]

Now that Ziggler is "fired" from the company and also no longer Intercontinental Champion, I feel like he's got a really great chance at being in one of the marquee matches at WrestleMania this year.

A small part of me thinks they might be considering matching him up against John Cena. Possibly...even the main event for the World Heavyweight Championship. And the best part is, if they do go this route, they don't even have to turn him heel since Cena is obviously going to get booed regardless.

The scenario I have in mind is something like this. You can fill in the blank on how Dolph gets his job back. We know that's happening, so the details aren't even important on that to me. So Ziggler wins the Royal Rumble. It's the one guy that could make the fans as happy or possibly even happier than Daniel Bryan. I'm not buying Reigns as the winner of the Rumble or the next champion. Just not ready in my book. Brutal promos too, but let's get back to the point. The following night on Raw, Cena starts the show (possibly as the new World Heavyweight Champion). He talks about his match with Lesnar and Rollins last night and then moves on to Dolph Ziggler and how he wants to personally congratulate him.

So Ziggler's music hits and he joins Cena in the ring. The 2 shake hands and Cena says, "There's not a single man more deserving of a championship opportunity and the main event spotlight at WrestleMania 31 after all The Authority has put us through."

Ziggler looks confused. "Us? You were never fired. In fact, everyone from Team Cena at Survivor Series was fired except John Cena. You didn't have to watch Monday Night Raw from your couch the past few weeks and you sure as hell didn't have to wonder if you'd be a part of WrestleMania. It strikes me kind of odd that myself, Ryback, and Erick Rowan were all fired for being a part of your Survivor Series team, yet you kept your job John. And then you could've redeemed yourself a couple weeks ago, you couldn't even beat Seth Rollins 1-on-1. Something just doesn't add up in all of this. It just seems very convenient to me that you not only kept your job, but you also walked out of Royal Rumble the new World Heavyweight Champion. But where this little plan you cooked up with Triple H fell apart is I walked outlasted 29 other men and I'm the new #1 contender. You almost cost me my livelihood. You almost took away everything I ever cared about. At WrestleMania, I'm returning the favor."

So the angle begins where Ziggler is suspicious that Cena is in cahoots with Triple H and The Authority, which of course eventually turns out to be false. Ziggler goes on to defeat Cena, becoming new champion if Cena does in fact dethrone Lesnar. But once again, there's always "Plan B", and Rollins cashes in. Ziggler and Rollins feud throughout the spring and Ziggler chases the title, eventually overcoming and regaining it - possibly at SummerSlam. I would let Rollins have a nice run with it before the payoff and the fans get what they want.

Ziggler could face Triple H (if plans with Sting change), and I would really like to see that. However, I might prefer to see this instead. Dolph has been booked extremely strong since Survivor Series, so if they don't have a big plan for him upon his return, I'm going to be baffled about why the firing angle happened to begin with.


Thoughts?

 

[John McCass]

I think this match must happen and it must happen like friendly foes fighting for the title. According to your scene,Ziggler would look slightly like a heel and it will hurt his push because he is super over as a babyface.




According to me, Ziggler should win the rumble and do an in ring segment with John Cena anytime before Mania. Both of them will shake hands and have a quick staredown for which the crowd will go wild and there it is. We have John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler for the WWEWHC Title and Cena will pass the torch at Mania

 

[NotoriousMEAT]

Yeah I really don't mind this idea. Before Daniel Bryan returned I had a very similar idea where the Royal Rumble title match would feature interference from both Rollins and Reigns that would ultimately cost Lesnar the title. This would set up a non-title Reigns/Lesnar clash. Orton (maybe even the same night) would prevent a Rollins cash in, setting up Orton/Rollins. As long as no one turns heel, a Ziggler/Cena feud would not only be interesting, but intense. The fans would want the Ziggler win SO BAD. Dolph could make some of the snarky remarks the OP mentioned.. but nothing close to heel antics.

 

[L@RISANO]

As long as Ziggler isn't put to defeat Brock Lesnar at Mania, I would be more than happy to see the guy in the Main Event of WrestleMania.

Him vs Cena might be yet another great option for a possible Main Event and really shows how unpredictable Mania season is at this point as there are loads of directions that the WWE can go in.
I guess I'll sit and wait till the Royal Rumble is over, because surely, everything will be much clearer then.

 

[Joseph718YaHurd]

I could definitely see this happening ... I think the intensity of this match , IF for the heavyweight title , would feel quite similar to john cena vs rvd one night stand 06 ... Dolph Ziggler is super over right now and the pop he'll get from the cena haters when he finally calls him out is going to be crazy .. I honestly feel Dolph is ready for the Top spot , and the fans do too

 

[BigDaddyKewl]

I think this could be a storyline that could fill TV time leading into Mania. It could be similar to Tatanka vs Lex Luger leading into Summerslam 94 when Tatanka accused Luger of selling out to Ted Dibiase and it ended up being a swerve when Tatanka ended up aligning with Dibiase. It could play out in a similar way and leaves the writers some options with either one of Cena or Ziggler turning heel and joining the Authority.

 

[SmattyG]

As much as I think this would be a great match; I don't see it happening. I think Bryan will win the RR match and we will see Brock V Bryan for the title and Cena V Rollins; or Seth V Bryan (title - preferred) and Cena V Brock (loser leaves town gimmick match). I just don't see Vince putting Ziggler in the main event at WM yet unfortunately.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in a tag team match with Orton V Big Show/Kane. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[LODemolition]

There's no way we see Cena vs Rollins again at Mania. I was thinking though, what about Cena vs Ziggler vs Bryan? Ziggler wins the Rumble and Bryan invokes his rematch clause for the title he never lost. Could happen.

 

[ans1928]

Simply wouldn't like to see it. Not sure Dolph is quite ready for the Main Event spot at WM, and I'd rather see Cena in the upper card against Rusev or something.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Too many bad memories of a 60 lb. preteen pushing over a ladder. At times that feud brought out the best in Ziggler (at that point I really saw not much in him), it still was incredibly unfulfilling. That past has me really apprehensive about supporting it to happen again, even under different circumstances.

Plus I can't see Cena being booked to lose to Ziggler in the main event of Mania and I have no interest in Cena being booked to beat Ziggler in the main event of Mania.

 

[JDHale]

I agree that Ziggler deserves a top match at WrestleMania, and I also predicted the WrestleMania card on this site a couple days back that resulted in Cena vs Ziggler simply because I thought both needed to be in top matches and couldn't find another spot for them on the card. Ziggler's in a position at the moment where it's very hard to predict who he'll face because there are so many other options for him..
1) Lesnar -> This would be Ziggler winning the Rumble and Lesnar retaining, both of which are realistic at this point. I actually would have Lesnar retain surprisingly, and then have Rollins cash in on an exhausted Lesnar. This allows Rollins to brag when Ziggler did most the work, and they can continue the feud they began on Smackdown about who the future really is.
2) Rollins -> Ties in to their mini feud and the Authority angle. Slightly less likely in possibility but still realistic, although Orton awaits Rollins. Maybe for the title.
3) Triple H -> It's easy for Triple H to be screwed by Ziggler again and for him to flip and demand a match at WrestleMania. The problem with this is Sting vs HHH is what's being set up, but Sting can move on to Rollins, Wyatt or Taker.
4) Wyatt -> Wyatt just won his feud against Ambrose and everything points to him getting another major match at Mania (I don't think he deserves it but whatevs). If he doesn't get 'Taker, then I doubt he'll face Bryan or Cena and that leaves Reigns or Ziggler as major faces. Ziggler would be more likely out of the two imo.
5) BnB -> I honestly think this is the most likely but it shouldn't be. Ziggler should be past the IC title from my point of view, and I think having this match is unfair on him for all the effort he put in the last couple months.
6) Rusev -> Probably the least likely. People seem to think a title unification will happen, but I don't feel there's enough personality in the roster to hold that many meaningful feuds without three major single titles, although I could be wrong.
7) Andre The Giant Battle Royal -> This would be spitting in Ziggler's face in my opinion, but it's a possibility. I really hope not.
8) Big Show/Kane -> Again, I really hope not. But maybe both deserve a singles match on this card, and so giving them a match where they put over Ziggler would be an option.

 

[kadroan]

Now that Ziggler is "fired" from the company and also no longer Intercontinental Champion, I feel like he's got a really great chance at being in one of the marquee matches at WrestleMania this year.

A small part of me thinks they might be considering matching him up against John Cena. Possibly...even the main event for the World Heavyweight Championship. And the best part is, if they do go this route, they don't even have to turn him heel since Cena is obviously going to get booed regardless.

The scenario I have in mind is something like this. You can fill in the blank on how Dolph gets his job back. We know that's happening, so the details aren't even important on that to me. So Ziggler wins the Royal Rumble. It's the one guy that could make the fans as happy or possibly even happier than Daniel Bryan. I'm not buying Reigns as the winner of the Rumble or the next champion. Just not ready in my book. Brutal promos too, but let's get back to the point. The following night on Raw, Cena starts the show (possibly as the new World Heavyweight Champion). He talks about his match with Lesnar and Rollins last night and then moves on to Dolph Ziggler and how he wants to personally congratulate him.

So Ziggler's music hits and he joins Cena in the ring. The 2 shake hands and Cena says, "There's not a single man more deserving of a championship opportunity and the main event spotlight at WrestleMania 31 after all The Authority has put us through."

Ziggler looks confused. "Us? You were never fired. In fact, everyone from Team Cena at Survivor Series was fired except John Cena. You didn't have to watch Monday Night Raw from your couch the past few weeks and you sure as hell didn't have to wonder if you'd be a part of WrestleMania. It strikes me kind of odd that myself, Ryback, and Erick Rowan were all fired for being a part of your Survivor Series team, yet you kept your job John. And then you could've redeemed yourself a couple weeks ago, you couldn't even beat Seth Rollins 1-on-1. Something just doesn't add up in all of this. It just seems very convenient to me that you not only kept your job, but you also walked out of Royal Rumble the new World Heavyweight Champion. But where this little plan you cooked up with Triple H fell apart is I walked outlasted 29 other men and I'm the new #1 contender. You almost cost me my livelihood. You almost took away everything I ever cared about. At WrestleMania, I'm returning the favor."

So the angle begins where Ziggler is suspicious that Cena is in cahoots with Triple H and The Authority, which of course eventually turns out to be false. Ziggler goes on to defeat Cena, becoming new champion if Cena does in fact dethrone Lesnar. But once again, there's always "Plan B", and Rollins cashes in. Ziggler and Rollins feud throughout the spring and Ziggler chases the title, eventually overcoming and regaining it - possibly at SummerSlam. I would let Rollins have a nice run with it before the payoff and the fans get what they want.

Ziggler could face Triple H (if plans with Sting change), and I would really like to see that. However, I might prefer to see this instead. Dolph has been booked extremely strong since Survivor Series, so if they don't have a big plan for him upon his return, I'm going to be baffled about why the firing angle happened to begin with.


Thoughts?

I'm a fan of Ziggler but I can't see it. Your idea is good. It would have been great 3 years ago when he was really over.

Unfortunately, I think it passed and WWE needs to look towards their younger wrestlers. Ziggler will be 35 this year, same age range as Orton (34) and Cena (37).

 

[SuperTaco]

I'm a fan of Ziggler but I can't see it. Your idea is good. It would have been great 3 years ago when he was really over.

Unfortunately, I think it passed and WWE needs to look towards their younger wrestlers. Ziggler will be 35 this year, same age range as Orton (34) and Cena (37).

I think you're forgetting the fact that Bret Hart won his first world title at 37, the same age that Cena is now. In most major sports, a 35 year old would be on the tail end of his career. In pro wrestling, 35 can often be their peak. Batista's peak was at 35/36 years old, same with Steve Austin.

Ziggler could easily have a 5 year window of being "the guy" if WWE wanted to get behind him (And if he stays healthy, of course).

 

[LODemolition]

5) BnB -> I honestly think this is the most likely but it shouldn't be. Ziggler should be past the IC title from my point of view, and I think having this match is unfair on him for all the effort he put in the last couple months.

Before Barrett returned, I would've agreed with this 100%. Now I would say BNB is the LEAST likely by far. I didn't think they'd put the IC Title on him so fast, I thought they'd wait til Mania. But the firing angle obviously forced them to speed things up. Ziggler has played hot potato with the IC strap all year long. I don't think there's any way that he doesn't move on to something else. Maybe a rematch w/ BNB at the Rumble or Fast Lane, but it'll end in DQ and then Barrett will feud with someone else (Ambrose in my opinion).

I really feel like the only options for Ziggler's opponent are Cena, Triple H, Rollins, or the long shot...a heel Sheamus if he joined The Authority upon his return. I'd personally love to see Ziggler vs. Triple H. Forget about Sting, this would obviously be 100x better than anything Sting and Triple H could deliver in the ring or storyline-wise. What history is there between them? None. Those 2 as opponents just feels completely random to me.

 

[MartialHorror]

I'd rather not see Cena vs Daniel Bryan-light.

Ziggler is an entertaining performer in the ring, but his personality is bland and whenever he is written into a storyline, he either resembles Cena or Bryan. His attempts at comedy are very reminiscent of Cena, while his underdog ploys are Bryan-ish- except the psychology is all off.

People might not like Cena, but he'll only highlight Ziggler's weaknesses while Ziggler's strengths will only make Cena look good. Do you really want that?

 

[lowandmighty]

I wouldn't buy it. I really, REALLY don't like Ziggler. What ever his character is supposed to be it just doesn't impress me at all. I wouldn't spend my money to see Ziggler vs Cena, and I only tolerate Cena because he is actually one of the better talents these days but I don't really like him either.

 

[JDHale]

Before Barrett returned, I would've agreed with this 100%. Now I would say BNB is the LEAST likely by far. I didn't think they'd put the IC Title on him so fast, I thought they'd wait til Mania. But the firing angle obviously forced them to speed things up. Ziggler has played hot potato with the IC strap all year long. I don't think there's any way that he doesn't move on to something else. Maybe a rematch w/ BNB at the Rumble or Fast Lane, but it'll end in DQ and then Barrett will feud with someone else (Ambrose in my opinion).

I really feel like the only options for Ziggler's opponent are Cena, Triple H, Rollins, or the long shot...a heel Sheamus if he joined The Authority upon his return. I'd personally love to see Ziggler vs. Triple H. Forget about Sting, this would obviously be 100x better than anything Sting and Triple H could deliver in the ring or storyline-wise. What history is there between them? None. Those 2 as opponents just feels completely random to me.

I could be wrong for sure, but when putting all the names together it seems a lot more likely to me than say HHH or Rusev. If Ziggler isn't given BnB, I think it's likely Ambrose will take him for sure. In fact, when I did my Mania card the four names left were Cena, Ziggler, Ambrose and BnB, and I put it Cena/Ziggler and Ambrose/BnB so I hope that's how it ends up. In terms of Ziggler/Triple H, I too would love to see that match, but it seems Sting is almost set in stone to face Trips after Survivor Series. Sheamus is an interesting option but I don't see it happening either, no reason other than it seems like two names being thrown together, especially since they were both set to be on Team Cena before the Authority took him out. Then again, with WWEs booking...