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How Ted Jr Can Step up. Cena sells him the title...

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Think about it Ted is currently in the upper-midcard level on RAW and he needs that little umph to push him up to the Main Event level. I think that this would be perfect.

Not only would this add extra heat to Ted but it could get fans to question Cena. No this doesn't mean Cena has to turn heel but out of all the ideas of turning Cena heel that i've read on here this one makes more sense then most of them.

Thoughts and opinions on this?
 
THIS is the Cena heel turn idea that makes the most sense to you?

I mean let's forget for a moment that Ted is nowhere near ready for this kind of feud (he's an afterthought at the moment), but you think Cena would sell the title? The man is personified by his love for the belt and the business, has said numerous times that he doesn't just do this for a paycheck, and is probably the highest paid wrestler in the world today. WHY would this work?
 
Yes but that's what makes it so good. His dedication to the business and him just selling out. I could just here it now the crowd chanting "You Sold Out!!!"
I know simple people expect good guys to turn on the spot and dump everything they stand for when becoming a heel, but this isn't the way you do things with Cena. As a heel, he's gonna want the title. He doesn't suddently surrender his passion for that when he loses his honor. And even then, he still doesn't need the money.

You've answered nothing. This is an AWFUL idea.
 
THIS is the Cena heel turn idea that makes the most sense to you?

I mean let's forget for a moment that Ted is nowhere near ready for this kind of feud (he's an afterthought at the moment), but you think Cena would sell the title? The man is personified by his love for the belt and the business, has said numerous times that he doesn't just do this for a paycheck, and is probably the highest paid wrestler in the world today. WHY would this work?

This.

Sorry man, but this will NOT work at all. I think Cena would rather leave the business than do something as asinine as this. He holds a passion for the business and the fans that no one can ever even hope to have, and that's what makes him a great asset to the WWE. Now I can see Ted trying to get Cena to sell him the belt, but Cena rejects, preaches his love and loyalty to the fans and the WWE, and bam! We have a Ted/Cena feud...however I don't see this happening quite yet. Maybe in a year we'll see, but that's only if Ted can manage to step up his game in the 'E.
 
This would NEVER happen. Do you really think Vince McMahon would turn his #1 face like this? No. I like Ted, and I've always felt he has more potential than Rhodes, but Ted is no where near ready to be given a push this big. Even if something like this were to happen, Cena would not be the guy to sell Ted the title. He's far too big of a name to do something like that.

A Cena heel turn might happen some where down the line, but it won't happen like this, and Ted is just not ready to be pushed like this yet.
 
Think about it Ted is currently in the upper-midcard level on RAW and he needs that little umph to push him up to the Main Event level. I think that this would be perfect.

Not only would this add extra heat to Ted but it could get fans to question Cena. No this doesn't mean Cena has to turn heel but out of all the ideas of turning Cena heel that i've read on here this one makes more sense then most of them.

Thoughts and opinions on this?


Let me get this right...

You want the most over-face in the PG Era and also the best merchandise seller (arguable with Rey Mysterio) that is supported by children everywhere that tunes in to wrestling...also Vince's biggest money-maker as of now...

to $ell his WWE Championship Spinner Belt to Ted Dibiase Jr?

This is a PG Era, not G. Never will anyone sell their biggest championship draw to a mid-carder. EVER. No company would, because that's kind of like "The Fingerpoke Of Doom". It's bad for business no matter how you look at it.

That title has the most prestige in the history of modern wrestling. You want Cena to lose it (nono, not just lose it, sell it to someone that is having troubles being their own person?) No offense, but daddy wouldn't want it that way I hope.

John Cena going heel will most likely happen when this PG Era ends. Ted will be a laughable champion if he actually bought the damn thing. That makes the belt lose its value, friend, so I just gotta say Hell No.
 
this would wok... but not anytime soon. even though i hate cena and dont think hes a decent wrestler at all, vince wouldnt let his top face since austin left sell out.
for this to work, cena needs to start having all this bling on him and not caring about the fans. then have ted win the title in a 3 way or something like that. or have cena win dirty and have ted win clean a couple times building the feud up.
 
This is a terrible idea. I feel stupid for even reading this. Vince would never approve of this. Plus, this is just repeating history, because Ted Dibiase did this with Andre the Giant.

I vote that this thread should close.
 
Plus, this is just repeating history, because Ted Dibiase did this with Andre the Giant.

And Dibiase Jr wanting his very own "Virgil" isn't? LOL


This idea could work in theory, but not with Cena, and not with the two major titles. How about he "buys" the IC title or the US title? That could be plausible. Maybe.
 
The whole Cena selling the title thing isn't the stupidest part of this by any means. The part where he can still be a face after selling it isn't the stupidest either. It's the fact that you think Dibiase can/should be world champion.

He's just like Orton, except for even more boring, less experienced, and with less tattoos. I don't see the appeal to him whatesover. I guess since his name is Dibiase people think he's great, but he's accomplished basically nothing thus far in his career. A title reign would equal a disaster.
 
I get it. I get what your saying and I get what your trying to do and what your trying to accomplish. But this just isn't a good idea. We all want Cena to turn heel because it would be something new and different from him, plus it would be a huge SHOCK for him to actually do it. When Cena does turn heel it needs to be like Austin or Hogan turning heel. Hogan was the third man and gave the wrestling buiness its biggest shock ever. Austin aligned with his arch enemy Vince McMahon and then went heel again by siding with WCW over WWF. Cena should do something equally shocking and sinister when he finally does turn heel. Just selling the belt and being a sell out doesn't make you a great heel. And of course, Vince won't turn the face of his company heel while he's selling so much merchandise and WWEs posterboy. Vince will only turn Cena heel when Cena is completely dryed up with no more drawing power or when they find a suitible replacement like the Rock was for Austin.

As far as Dibiase trying to "Buy" the belt, that idea I do kinda like but don't think it can work. His father did it with Andre the Giant so its not unprecidented. But when Andre sold it to him, Andre was stipped of the Belt and it was repossed from Ted Diabiase Sr therefore he was never really champ. So why would it be any different for Ted Jr? Whats the point in buying the belt if WWE won't recognize you as champion and just declare the title vacant?

IF IF IF Ted Jr somehow found a loophole where if he DID purchase the belt, he would be recognized as champion, Then I think they could run with that. IF would fit Ted's character to try and do something like that so i'm not against him TRYING to purchase the belt. NOW, Should Cena or anyone else actually sell it to him? ABSOLUTLY NOT. Its a cheap way to elevate the guy to main event status, which he's not ready for yet, but could be by the end of the year (next MITB winner?)

Maybe after Ted wins the belt through traditional means, and then loses it, he could try buying it back. Cena would still never sell it, but maybe someone else would. Like Big Show?
 
i can see it happening, but not with cena. why not swager? why not the next champ. you guys are brutal, its one thing not to like the idea, but make it better dont attack him
 
Nobody in Pro-Wrestling today could pull off this kind of gimmick. WWE is trying to make their competitors seem more like the athletes of real sports and no athlete in the world would sell the oppurtunity to be a champ.

With Cena (who I personally can't stand), his gimmick would never allow this to happen - even with a heel turn. He's billed as hyper competitive and that's how it should be. If you had to turn him heel, the best way IMO would be for him to start doing heelish things to keep the title; that at least I could believe.
 
This would be very similar to what his Dad did trying to buy Hogan and it couldn't hurt to try something similar, but I agree Cena would be a tough choice to do this to, but I can see Dibiase buying matches, people and titles along the way. Once Ted is ready for the main event then this would be a good idea, but we shall see when the time comes. It would be nice to see since the WWE has lacked major swerves in quite awhile.
 
I don't like this idea at all because why would Cena give the WWE title to Dibiase for money if he is suppose to already be one of the richest wrestlers by being the WWE champion. So why would he give up his big checks for being champion for a one time payment?

I think it would be better if they build Dibiase up as a mega heel first and have him do something like pay his way into a main event on a ppv event at the last second to win the title would be better.
 
It just wouldn't work, I mean if that actually happen, Cena sells the championship and becomes a heel...then, what? He would go for the US championship or again for the WWE championship, I don't think so. See you have to think further before making the idea, but after all is just my opinion.
 
horrible idea.....ted needs to come up with his own gimmick instead of recycling his daddys....plus do you not know who John Cena is and what he "stands for"? cmon kid lol
 
Yes but that's what makes it so good. His dedication to the business and him just selling out. I could just here it now the crowd chanting "You Sold Out!!!"

From the sounds of it you want Cena to re-hash the Rock's corporate sell out of the Atitude Era???

Surely something better could eb done to make Ted a viable commodity on RAW. I still think the best thing for him to do is claim that the Million $ belt is legit and defend it all the time pretending he is main event.

This could then lead to cena or whoever the champ is at the time challenge him for his so called "main event" title and prove he is not worthy of that status.....
 
2 be honest, I can see where U're going with this angle, it's pretty much the same thing Ted Sr. did trying 2 buy the WWF title from Hulk Hogan back in the day. I think it could work, however, the WWE writers will have 2 add a whole new swerve 2 it, unless they could find a pir of twins & bring them in as referees a' la the Hebner twins.
 
This idea worked with Andre because Andre really didn't want the belt. He wanted to beat Hogan and was manipulated by Dibiase Sr. into winning and selling the belt. The same would not work for Cena, as the character, face or heel, would not fit the mold to do so. As many have said before me, Cena's character strives to be the best and wants the title to prove himself. Selling it would completely diminish his character.

However, I disagree with those that said this would "Never" happen. While I do agree there is little to no possibility that this could happen, nor would happen, I have learned to never say never when it comes to creative writing. If there is even a small loophole with which to provide reasonable cause, then it can happen, even if it shouldn't. So the real question is, "How exactly would you change Cena's character to fit this circumstance?"

Obviously, he would have to undergo a serious change, focused more on money than on his strive for success. There are many ways to do this, but it would require something so drastic that the WWE title is not the most valuable thing in Cena's life. That would take quite a bit indeed.

This reminds me of the quote that so many have said before, "If you aren't trying to become WWE champion, then why are you here?" I know that isn't the exact words used, but it is the gist of it. If we, the fans, are constantly told that the WWE title is what it is all about for the superstars, then there would have to be one hell of a reason for Cena, the top guy, to completely throw this concept out the window. A simple heel turn would not suffice.
 
Bad storyline completely. To sell out like that for the top face of the company would be a wrong idea. I see where you are going with it though and creative thoughts entered my head before I read the idea. I think an idea that could push Ted Jr. to the next level and you start to see some Ted Sr. in him, is why not see the belt stolen by either some jobber or something, it gets put up for sale and the one to buy it be Ted Jr. Let there be heat between the real title owner, Cena, and Ted Jr. and then have them fight it out in the ring over who is the rightful champ. Ted could take the win on this one.
 
Okay, well... I'll throw you a life-jacket at least. Not the worst idea, i'll say that. But the angle wouldn't be best applicable at the moment because A) Dibiase needs to already be at a main-event level to pull off something like that and B) Cena's character doesn't fully fit that heel turn...yet.

Maybe create a situation where Cena is shown as a family man. He gets married, has a kid, adopts a little chinese girl, buys a small dog. Then Cena gets hit by hard times, let's say he becomes a gambling addict of sorts, has a bunch of big investments go bad. Essentially, Cena falls on hard times, struggles to support his family, and really needs money. Perhaps, Dibiase even plays Cena's "bookie" and is the person pushing him to invest his money. Later, it's revealed that Dibiase knew these were bad investments the whole time and it was all part of his devious plan.

Meanwhile, Dibiase buys the belt from Cena and hires Cena as his personal bodyguard, all the while generating great heat by constantly verbally abusing Cena and paying Cena to help him cheat to retain the title.

From there you could go 2 ways, either Cena eventually admits he has a problem, deals with it, turns on Dibiase, and wins back his Title. Or maybe the angle could turn Cena heel by having him eventually align with Dibiase and McMahon, turn in his hip-hop gear for a tailored suite and tie. It's all for the money now, he never wants to have to worry about supporting his family again, and this is for their security.

Keep in mind all storylines are rehashes of old storylines, there are only 7 basic plotlines in fiction writing anyway. I guess this is a hybrid of Mcmahon corporate with some JBL/HBK tossed in there.....so, bite me...I think it could work.

This made me laugh, although I agree people were a bit brutal...

i can see it happening, but not with cena. why not swager? why not the next champ. you guys are brutal, its one thing not to like the idea, but make it better dont attack him

EdgeHead, you're a funny guy.....no attacking okay everyone?! Let's keep this civilized and polite and then after a stimulating discussion we can all shake hands and then go out for some crumpets and tea! sorry, not trying to attack you or anything....
 
Nobody in Pro-Wrestling today could pull off this kind of gimmick. WWE is trying to make their competitors seem more like the athletes of real sports and no athlete in the world would sell the oppurtunity to be a champ.

With Cena (who I personally can't stand), his gimmick would never allow this to happen - even with a heel turn. He's billed as hyper competitive and that's how it should be. If you had to turn him heel, the best way IMO would be for him to start doing heelish things to keep the title; that at least I could believe.

Dude, do you think no fighter ever took a dive for some cash? Be serious.

If Ted is mimicking his Pops already then I don't have much of an issue with this idea. Though I could see Cena taking the cash to let Ted get the 3 count, then destoying him in the rematch. Sure it would kinda bury Ted, but it might be a fun little fued. Definately not the worst idea in wrestling. For that, see Giant Gonzales's painted body suit. Terrible.
 
ill play devils advocate, i could actually see away that they could pull this off. first i think that tarver will get the boot on nxt next week and ends up agreeing to be the new virgil. ted comes out says he's to rich to have to wrestle and tells cena to just sell him the title.
cena "hulks up" hustle loyalty bla bla bla. agrees to a match ted vs cena if cena looses he sells the title, virgil (micheal tarver) hits cena with a ko punch behind the referee and ted wins the match. the crowd wouldn't belive it cena sells out!!! then the next week on raw and says that "ted did buy my spinner belt, the last day i wore it before wwe bought a new world title and that the spinner belt is a collectors edition, and introducing the new belt says want some come get some!" the crowd would go nuts and if sheamus can beat cena then why not ted? and finally no more spinner belt thank god plus ted and tarver get a push, i belive this is why hes quiting all the time so ted can hire him and why not?
 
Cena is not the right guy and the WWE Championship not the right title. Plus, DiBiase is not at that level. He should establish in the midcard first.
He could probably buy The US Title from the Miz. The Miz won't give him a title shot and Ted is pissed. He wants to gain reputation and makes the Miz an "immoral offer". Miz accepts because "he had higher plans anyway".
 

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