How come WWE always tries to bury Goldberg?

[AngryCenaFan]

In many shows and DVD's they have attempted to downplay Goldbergs success, saying he was to green and whatever.

the fact of the matter is, if you CONNECT with the audience like he did it doesn't matter how "green" or inexperienced you are.

Points of reference

http://youtu.be/7YNAgsU3HgM

http://youtu.be/2DxaJ3En2C4
http://youtu.be/3dj5EBIiNBA

Look how the fans react, they are on their feet for his matches, the crowd reactions are not "piped" in like WWE likes to claim.

The fact of the matter is, Goldberg was one of the top draws of his era because he connected with the audience, WWE then ruined his aura by trying to make him into something he wasn't, and have since tried to downplay his effect on wrestling.

I am not saying he was the best wrestler, but he was one of the guys that tried to put some MMA style into his moves at a time when not alot did.

 

[nastynix]

the wwe says goldberg is/was green is because he is a terrible wrestler. hes the modern day ultimate warrior. thats why the majority of his matches only lasted 30 seconds. oh yeah and his mic skills suck. and by the way no one had mma style moves because this is not mma, its WRESTLING!!!!

 

[harrythem]

WWE insults Goldberg because management butted heads with him constantly when he worked there and he hasn't exactly been slow to insult the company since he left...What they say about him being a bad wrestler, etc, is true, but so where many stars they've had there who still get praise (Kevin Nash was horrible but he's on good terms so no hate for him).
Look at the fall of WCW DVD, Ole Anderson and Vince Russo (in WWE Bad Books) get it with both barrels while Dusty Rhodes (WWE fave) is treated nicely, even though he was a complete shit for WCW for most of his tenure(s) as booker.

 

[Yesiamaduck]

They never say his reactions were piped in, but that the entrance chants were piped in... which they were!

And he was green as shit, WCW creative booked him well to hide his short comings, if he had longer matches on average then I'm almost certain he wouldn't nearly be as over as he was.

He had an impact on the wrestling landscape for sure but he was bit poo if we're honest

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

They never say his reactions were piped in, but that the entrance chants were piped in... which they were!

And he was green as shit, WCW creative booked him well to hide his short comings, if he had longer matches on average then I'm almost certain he wouldn't nearly be as over as he was.

He had an impact on the wrestling landscape for sure but he was bit poo if we're honest

A bit of poo? The guy drew more money from a ratings standpoint than anyone has in WWE over the last 5-8 years.

And its easy to shit on Goldberg because he was never a company man for Vince. He didn't really come back to wrestling because he loved the business...he came back because he saw $$$. Who wouldn't have?

 

[Fan of wrestling]

ANNNNNNDDDDDDDD everyone buys it. Goldberg is better than indy geeks like Davey Richards. He actually could connect with a crowd. He showed emotion. Goldberg was a good worker. Fuck wat WWE says

 

[Davi323]

It doesn't matter if he drew money...can anyone name a single memorable Goldberg match that you remember because of the actual match, and not any shenanigans?

Goldberg was all hype, and absolutely no substance. All Goldberg accomplished was proving to Eric Bischoff that you can take a complete no-talent hack, and with the right build, turn him into a mega star. Goldberg was the product of a highly successful marketing campaign, that's it.

WWE then ruined his aura by trying to make him into something he wasn't

Yeah. They tried to make him a wrestler.

 

[ChickenWaffles]

Goldberg at his peak was awesome. Audience cared about him more than they do about Orton, Punk, Jericho, any of your other favourite wrestlers.

 

[apowell]

I was just wondering who you guys are referring to when you say guys in the WWE. I see the same dvd's and the guys talking about Goldberg worked with him in WCW.

 

[LuChava]

The WWE takes shits on Goldberg because he wasnt created by them. He should have been the final nail in the coffin for the WWE. WCW had so much going for them at the time but they got lazy.

Keep in mind Goldberg started as guy on the 3rd tier show. Its the equivalent of someone on Superstars who came up from FCW (WCW Power Plant) with no build up and headlines Wrestlemania the following year. Sure he was beating guys left and right but it was on the Saturday/Sunday morning shows not Nitro or Thunder. His matches were booked to perfection, 10 seconds "ITS OVER" or 5 seconds "HE DID IT AGAIN". They gave him time and kept him off mic and when he finally spoke people listened. Its something the WWE fails to do with many of their young stars today.

He nearly sold out the Georgia Dome for a Nitro match vs Hogan. Sure it was another dumbass move by WCW to give that match away for free but still he was a success.

 

[RicoLen]

The whole argument that Goldberg couldn't wrestle is the exact same argument that Cena can't wrestle. Goldberg has done wrestling moves I've never seen anyone else do. I, somehow, managed to miss out on Goldberg's match against Curt Hennig, and so I went just yesterday to youtube and watched it and SOB, he did it again. That variation on a leg scissors takedown was awesome. I thought he had botched a drop kick until he wrapped his legs around Hennig's waist and took him down. Goldberg was never the best wrestler, but calling him a crappy wrestler isn't fair either.

And seriously, Goldberg can't wrestle? Even if it were true WTF cares!? He was so much more badass than any good wrestler it just didn't matter. He was a fighter, and he oozed this aura that it didn't matter who you were, he could kick your ass from corner to corner in the ring and then pin you when he was good and ready. Pro-Wrestling, despite popular opinion is more than just mat technicians doing amateur moves and hitting people with chairs. The WWE in particular was a melting pot for many different types of fighting styles, that's why you had stars like Ken Shamrock & Steve Blackman as well as guys like Kurt Angle. Goldberg was just another example. So GTF over it. He was the #1 draw of the company that nearly put Steve Austin & the WWE out of business and was an incredible entertainer. At the end of the day that's what matters most. Quit drinking the WWE cool-aid.

Memorable matches? Are you kidding me? Maybe you don't remember because you didn't watch, but I remember a TON of his matches. Hugh Morris, Barbarian, Wrath, Raven, Saturn, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Sting, Hulk Hogan, DDP, The Rock, HHH.

Not even The Undertaker looked more intimidating in the ring than Goldberg. WWE buries every WCW star that looks back on their WCW years fondly. If they can convince Vince that they believe WCW sucks and/or that the WWE is way better, they get buried.

He nearly sold out the Georgia Dome for a Nitro match vs Hogan. Sure it was another dumbass move by WCW to give that match away for free but still he was a success.

Actually it was things like that, that nearly won the Monday Night Wars for WCW. You didn't want to miss an episode of Nitro because you didn't want to miss the mega-matches they had on TV, you didn't have to worry about the match showing up on youtube the next morning then. But WWF MNR was taped, and you could get spoilers online about what was going to happen and then decide for yourself whether you wanted to watch or not.

 

[i'm a cm punk girl]

Goldberg's longevity in wrestling may not be hall of fame worthy but there's no denying his impact was. Here's a guy who had zero knowledge of wrestling and was hardly even a fan of it but he became a success. Sure booking had something to do with it but Goldberg made it believeable that he could squash anybody that was put in front of him and he damn near did. He was a huge draw and everything he did in the ring got a huge pop.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

He drew more money from a ratings standpoint... how much money did WCW lose after he won the WCW title? exactly... next

How much money did WCW lose after Hogan won the title? Or Flair? WCW lost a lot of money because it WENT OUT OF FUCKING BUSINESS. So you could plug any son of a bitch into the space occupied by Goldberg and then make an argument for why WCW lost money.

If you think WCW lost money strictly because (or even directly related to) Goldberg was (being) WCW champ, you are really uninformed/ignorant.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

How much money did WCW lose after Hogan won the title? Or Flair? WCW lost a lot of money because it WENT OUT OF FUCKING BUSINESS. So you could plug any son of a bitch into the space occupied by Goldberg and then make an argument for why WCW lost money.

If you think WCW lost money strictly because (or even directly related to) Goldberg was (being) WCW champ, you are really uninformed/ignorant.

Well had he not been a dumbfuck and used the metal tool like they wanted him to when he smashed the glass on the limo in early 1999 and not broken his wrist and been out forever they might not have lost a lot of steam. Not only that but them paying him while he's injured due to such a dumb decision probably cost them a million bucks.

Goldberg drew a lot in a very short time, but he was also a stupid bastard and a one trick poney. It was half booking, half him.

You can't say "after anyone because they went out of business" I think he means like if you were to look at a line graph, Goldberg rose and so did WCW obviously, but then his stupidity, or as Scott Hall puts it "the way Goldberg wanted to get over was by acting like it was real" probably also hurt the company.

 

[RicoLen]

Well had he not been a dumbfuck and used the metal tool like they wanted him to when he smashed the glass on the limo in early 1999 and not broken his wrist and been out forever they might not have lost a lot of steam. Not only that but them paying him while he's injured due to such a dumb decision probably cost them a million bucks.

Goldberg drew a lot in a very short time, but he was also a stupid bastard and a one trick poney. It was half booking, half him.

You can't say "after anyone because they went out of business" I think he means like if you were to look at a line graph, Goldberg rose and so did WCW obviously, but then his stupidity, or as Scott Hall puts it "the way Goldberg wanted to get over was by acting like it was real" probably also hurt the company.

Goldberg wasn't pro-wrestling business savvy, not by a longshot, and the expectation, by WCW or other wrestlers, or the fans or anyone that he should have been is just plain stupid. You wouldn't expect someone right out of Power Plant to know how to book a match, or any number of things. At that point they can only be expected to do one thing, not kill someone else... which of course, sadly Goldberg f**ked that up too with Bret Hart, and also with his fist.

However, people were treating Bill Goldberg as if he was some kind of tried and tested veteran just because he was able to draw and get over with the fans like a veteran. I don't care who it is or what profession you're doing, if you've only been doing your job for 1, 2, 3 years you shouldn't be treated like a 10-15 year vet anywhere, except in the case of wrestling, on screen and only after you've proved you can draw like a vet, other than that, you're still a noob and need to put your time in.

 

[Long Island Iced D]

Goldberg wasn't pro-wrestling business savvy, not by a longshot, and the expectation, by WCW or other wrestlers, or the fans or anyone that he should have been is just plain stupid. You wouldn't expect someone right out of Power Plant to know how to book a match, or any number of things. At that point they can only be expected to do one thing, not kill someone else... which of course, sadly Goldberg f**ked that up too with Bret Hart, and also with his fist.

However, people were treating Bill Goldberg as if he was some kind of tried and tested veteran just because he was able to draw and get over with the fans like a veteran. I don't care who it is or what profession you're doing, if you've only been doing your job for 1, 2, 3 years you shouldn't be treated like a 10-15 year vet anywhere, except in the case of wrestling, on screen and only after you've proved you can draw like a vet, other than that, you're still a noob and need to put your time in.

WWE did the same thing with Brock Lesnar and he got sick of the pressure and the business and left. As far as the WWE burying Goldberg, I think they might have booked him wrong during his tenure but he was never that great. Don't get me wrong, I loved Goldberg growing up and think he had a huge impact on WCW but the guy was always an overrated powerhouse. The WWE never purposely went out of the way to bury him though in my opinion.

 

[RicoLen]

Well I'm going to change my answer completely now...

"I'm back, but not in the WWE they can kiss my ass." -Goldberg

Does much more need be said at this point? If I were the WWE I'd bury the guy now too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still gonna watch the guy as loyally as I can, but now I don't blame the WWE for trying to bury him.