With all the talk of Roman Reigns this and Daniel Bryan that there should be only one thing being said........Brock Lesnar should walk out of Wrestlemania 31 with the WWE title. Brock is the biggest star in the company by far and with more dates he would bring even more value to the WWE. WWE's first focus should not be who headlines with Brock but how to pay Brock the big money. The solution is simple really, fire 4 jobbers and give their money to Brock. Brock is more than willing to work more dates if the WWE gives him the right amount of money. The four jobbers who should be fired are Mark Henry, Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods and Big E. Those four contracts should be big enough to keep Brock around.
How can the WWE afford to keep Brock Lesnar?
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Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Yeah fire 4 black guys. That'll bode well. Is it National Fucktard day? I forgot to mark my calender.
You have no idea how much Brock wants to work or whether or not he wants to stay with the company beyond his contracted dates. You're talking out of your ass.
You have no idea how much Brock wants to work or whether or not he wants to stay with the company beyond his contracted dates. You're talking out of your ass.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
It's not like WWE has a salary cap, if all that is needed to keep Brock around is a pay increase, WWE is more than likely capable of giving him whatever the fuck he wants. It comes down to more than the financial aspect of it, it's more with amount of dates he'd have to work, & if he even wants to keep doing this at all, Brock has accomplished pretty much everything he could possibly ever imagine doing in WWE, & feel there is no point is sticking around any longer, he may want to return to UFC, feeling he still has unfinished business there. Hell, he may not want to do anything except sit at home & hang out with his family for a few years. God knows he's made enough money over the last few years to more than cover him for the rest of his life.
As for cutting Mark Henry & the New Day, that's just dumb, why would your fire 4 black guys during black history month to keep the one rich white guy, yeah that doesn't have stupidest fucking idea ever written all over it
As for cutting Mark Henry & the New Day, that's just dumb, why would your fire 4 black guys during black history month to keep the one rich white guy, yeah that doesn't have stupidest fucking idea ever written all over it
Force him to work seriously if WWE tries the same deal for another 3 years they'll need 1 million more network subscribers. If not let him go he doesn't seem to care being WWE champion and looking sign with UFC. 
Edit: Wow dude nobody is worth firing 4 guys over and why Kingston and actually has him own little legacy now and can win more titles in the future.
Edit: Wow dude nobody is worth firing 4 guys over and why Kingston and actually has him own little legacy now and can win more titles in the future.
BillAlfonsos_Whistle
Getting Noticed By Management
lol that is the worst attempt at vieled racism I've ever seen.
This thread should be modded. For christ sake I get warnings for short posts but I don't run around flaunting my KKK ideology.
This thread should be modded. For christ sake I get warnings for short posts but I don't run around flaunting my KKK ideology.
Dysturbed
Under the radar
Why is it an either or thing? They can easily and realistically focus on both at the same time. They certainly are not going to minimize their attempt to give Brock someone (who they feel is) a suitable opponent on the biggest ppv of the year at this stage of WM buildup.
As for you saying a few times that they need to come up with money and that its as "simple" as just firing people, that's not true. As others have said, if it turns out that he doesn't want to stay for reasons that are irrelevant to money, then no amount of money may change that.
yeah that doesn't have stupidest fucking idea ever written all over it
A quick glance at his posts shows that this is the same guy that recently said that if he was in charge of WWE he'd fire Bryan (maybe give less of a push if he dislikes him but fire him?) and have Sting win the rumble and that Ric Flair isn't a legend. I'm not sure if he thinks things through.
FromGlasgow
Championship Contender
Why not Titus ONeil or Darren Young? I don't think anyone should be fired just to keep Brock, I think Brock has one of the best wrestling deals ever he's one of the highest paid wrestlers ever and only wrestles about 4 times per year, I admit I enjoy Brocks matches but if he really doesn't want to be there I would rather they used someone who did want to be there instead of just throwing more money at Brock.
the green b@stard
Dark Match Winner
Ok, I'll give the benefit of the doubt and let the black firings slide... tho I doubt you deserve it.
Fact is wwe (if they haven't already) will make lesnar a large offer.
Thing is he doesn't need the money and hates travel. More dates is a nonstarter and frankly if he doesn't want to wrestle he won't no matter how much money they throw at him.
Fact is wwe (if they haven't already) will make lesnar a large offer.
Thing is he doesn't need the money and hates travel. More dates is a nonstarter and frankly if he doesn't want to wrestle he won't no matter how much money they throw at him.
Aquaman6686
Mid-Card Championship Winner
This might be the single dumbest thing I have EVER read. Brock Lesnar hasn't done one single solitary thing to deserve the sweetheart deal he's been given, and the increase in buys and ratings that he brought in at first has long since faded. Nobody cares about Brock Lesnar. Let the little bitch go back to UFC. He's nowhere near as big a draw as Vince thinks he is, and WWE has tons of guys who are more talented, draw more, and actually WORK for a living. F*** Brock Lesnar.
My Couch Pulls Out But I Don't
I am a WZ *****...GOD!
I'll let the blatant racism be called out by others...
Not only is this idea completely stupid, you can rest assured that the money those four guys make combined is nowhere near a quarter of what Brock is getting paid.
The kind of difference in amounts is so large if WWE did what you want, Brock would laugh it off.
Its the equivalent of a baseball team releasing four minor leaguers to use their money to get their superstar to stay.
It just doesn't make sense, it is stupid, you sir win the Trojan-Enz Boner of the week award.
Not only is this idea completely stupid, you can rest assured that the money those four guys make combined is nowhere near a quarter of what Brock is getting paid.
The kind of difference in amounts is so large if WWE did what you want, Brock would laugh it off.
Its the equivalent of a baseball team releasing four minor leaguers to use their money to get their superstar to stay.
It just doesn't make sense, it is stupid, you sir win the Trojan-Enz Boner of the week award.
Mustang Sally
Sells seashells by the seashore
Not exactly a lesson in business practices a college would want to teach in Marketing 101, huh?
Personally, I still wonder what Brock earns in salary and, even more importantly, how WWE knows whether he's "worth it" or not. How do they know? There must be some sort of business model in place to measure whether a performer is worth what he's being paid. Sure, merchandise sales are one factor, but there must be more than that goes into the formula.
Still, whatever seems logical to us outside the company, WWE must figure Brock is worth it and, no matter how desperately he might want to go back to UFC, as Ted DiBiase Sr. used to tell us.....every man has his price. Maybe they can coax him to stay with even bigger bucks.....presuming they want him to stay at all. We don't really know, do we?
If Brock really wants to use his power to best effect, maybe he should leave WWE for a couple of years.....and then send out feelers to the wrestling companies, offering to come back at the price he names.
Hell, if the rest of the WWE roster resents what Brock is making now in comparison to how little he works, this new strategy would probably garner a real-life revolt that would result in the entire roster marching on Stamford and pounding down Vince McMahon's door.
Personally, I've enjoyed Brock's tenure with WWE, but feel he's pretty well run the course. How many more people are there for him to fight?
Thanks for everything, Brock....see ya.
OYDK
King Of The Ring
Honestly, I'd rather see Brock Lesnar in the UFC than the WWE next year. From a purely fan perspective of both sports, Lesnar in the UFC interests me a whole lot more at this point than he does in the WWE, simply because he's already done LITERALLY everything there is to do. He's conquered the WWE fairly quickly, whether people like it or not.
As for what WWE should do to keep Lesnar... they don't need to fire anybody to give Lesnar a contract. Sure, firing 4 or 5 guys would open up some "cap room" so to speak but nowhere near enough to outweigh Lesnar's alleged salary. Also, it's plain scummy and bush league to just fire 4 people who have given you every bit of their time (17 years in Mark Henry's case) in order to lock up the least deserving "Legend" of all time. No, WWE could easily dish out the money to pay Lesnar and barely take a hit in revenue. It all comes down to whether the WWE decides Lesnar is worth the amount he wants and if Brock Lesnar even has any interest at this point of coming back.
As for what WWE should do to keep Lesnar... they don't need to fire anybody to give Lesnar a contract. Sure, firing 4 or 5 guys would open up some "cap room" so to speak but nowhere near enough to outweigh Lesnar's alleged salary. Also, it's plain scummy and bush league to just fire 4 people who have given you every bit of their time (17 years in Mark Henry's case) in order to lock up the least deserving "Legend" of all time. No, WWE could easily dish out the money to pay Lesnar and barely take a hit in revenue. It all comes down to whether the WWE decides Lesnar is worth the amount he wants and if Brock Lesnar even has any interest at this point of coming back.
I don't care how they plan to sign Brock for another year, but i think they need to do it.
With Cena taking a backseat, couple big enough names probably soon retiring (Kane, Show, Henry, Taker), Sting in his 50s and no hispanic main eventer, WWE need to buy all avaible starpower, this doesn't only includes Brock (Angle & Bully Ray could be good additions too), but Lesnar clearly is the biggest star of them all.
But before paying him anything, plan his feuds in advice and count needed dates. Something like this:
- WM - loosing to Reigns in main event
- RAW after WM - telling that his rematch will be at Extreme Rules
- Extreme Rules - losing to Reigns again
- in a meantime, give Heyman someone to manage, who he will also call "my client" (Kevin Owens?), so he can manipulate "his client" addition into MitB match and everyone will be thinking it is Owens who will fight in this match
- MitB - make Lesnar appear & win the briefcase
- RAW after MitB - telling that whoever is the champ going into Summerslam is his victim
(this setting up Summerslam main event)
- Summerslam - lose to whoever the champ is (Reigns?)
- Royal Rumble - make him a surprise entrant and looking like he will win the whole thing, only being eliminated by "Paul's client"
- RAW after Roayl Rumble - telling "Paul's client" that he will break him apart at WM
- FasteLane - screwing "Paul's client" out of big match
- regular appearances on RAW till WM, couple of quick wins over midcarders, including 2 on 1 handicaps to rebuilt his monster image
- WM - match with "Paul's client"
How many dates here? 15? Appearing at all big events all year and with kayfabe reasons behind the matches and absence.
Of course all of this will be pointless, if WWE will be unable to built couple of new stars in this very year
With Cena taking a backseat, couple big enough names probably soon retiring (Kane, Show, Henry, Taker), Sting in his 50s and no hispanic main eventer, WWE need to buy all avaible starpower, this doesn't only includes Brock (Angle & Bully Ray could be good additions too), but Lesnar clearly is the biggest star of them all.
But before paying him anything, plan his feuds in advice and count needed dates. Something like this:
- WM - loosing to Reigns in main event
- RAW after WM - telling that his rematch will be at Extreme Rules
- Extreme Rules - losing to Reigns again
- in a meantime, give Heyman someone to manage, who he will also call "my client" (Kevin Owens?), so he can manipulate "his client" addition into MitB match and everyone will be thinking it is Owens who will fight in this match
- MitB - make Lesnar appear & win the briefcase
- RAW after MitB - telling that whoever is the champ going into Summerslam is his victim
(this setting up Summerslam main event)
- Summerslam - lose to whoever the champ is (Reigns?)
- Royal Rumble - make him a surprise entrant and looking like he will win the whole thing, only being eliminated by "Paul's client"
- RAW after Roayl Rumble - telling "Paul's client" that he will break him apart at WM
- FasteLane - screwing "Paul's client" out of big match
- regular appearances on RAW till WM, couple of quick wins over midcarders, including 2 on 1 handicaps to rebuilt his monster image
- WM - match with "Paul's client"
How many dates here? 15? Appearing at all big events all year and with kayfabe reasons behind the matches and absence.
Of course all of this will be pointless, if WWE will be unable to built couple of new stars in this very year
CrucifiedRaven
The Evenflow Effect
Well, aside from firing the New Day faction - there is something to this point.
WWE dropped the ball with Brock's reign by not having him compete at Survivor Series vs Randy Orton, and then at Royal Rumble vs Daniel Bryan. He should have gone through every top babyface on the roster in very dominant and convincing fashion. Maybe even have him squash The Big Show and Dolph Ziggler on RAW as well.
SummerSlam: John Cena 'C' vs Brock Lesnar
Night of Champions: Brock Lesnar 'C' vs John Cena
Survivor Series: Brock Lesnar 'C' vs Randy Orton
Royal Rumble: Brock Lesnar 'C' vs Daniel Bryan
That would have built him up as the unbeatable monster they've been making him out to be - and with no hope for anyone to beat him. Until finally some new up and coming baby face (Reigns or whoever you want it to be) comes in and does the job. But since they haven't gone this route - I kind of agree that no one is worthy enough to take the title off of him yet. They haven't milked him for everything they should have, and I wouldn't mind at all Brock keeping the title for longer. But of course, they have to use him. He can't disappear until SummerSlam again.
WWE dropped the ball with Brock's reign by not having him compete at Survivor Series vs Randy Orton, and then at Royal Rumble vs Daniel Bryan. He should have gone through every top babyface on the roster in very dominant and convincing fashion. Maybe even have him squash The Big Show and Dolph Ziggler on RAW as well.
SummerSlam: John Cena 'C' vs Brock Lesnar
Night of Champions: Brock Lesnar 'C' vs John Cena
Survivor Series: Brock Lesnar 'C' vs Randy Orton
Royal Rumble: Brock Lesnar 'C' vs Daniel Bryan
That would have built him up as the unbeatable monster they've been making him out to be - and with no hope for anyone to beat him. Until finally some new up and coming baby face (Reigns or whoever you want it to be) comes in and does the job. But since they haven't gone this route - I kind of agree that no one is worthy enough to take the title off of him yet. They haven't milked him for everything they should have, and I wouldn't mind at all Brock keeping the title for longer. But of course, they have to use him. He can't disappear until SummerSlam again.
Heartbreak_Kid_707
Championship Contender
Did you really just right that dude?? That seriously is the stupidest thing I've ever seen...Henry is ready to retire, Kingston is better than half the talent, big E is good, and Ryback has one of the biggest followings and is a main even tear right now.
Let along you first just mentioned firing the black guys..and a "4 for 1" trade..idiot...
I'm a lesnar fan but now that's just stupid..
This post is a "hate crime post" and needs deleted..
Let along you first just mentioned firing the black guys..and a "4 for 1" trade..idiot...
I'm a lesnar fan but now that's just stupid..
This post is a "hate crime post" and needs deleted..
DetectiveZelix
King of Zecropolis
Why is everyone making this about race. If he would have picked any other 4 guys no one would care. I think those wrestlers suck please fire them. Brock Lesnar is 15 times more talented and valuable than those clowns and as a black man I feel proud in saying that.
But anyways there's no way Brock will stay even if paid more. It's not really up to Brock anyways it's his brand, his agents and sponsors that determine where Brock will eventually go.
I say book Brock strong at all times and like the OP said leave WM with the strap and hell I say relinquish it and head back to UFC where he can truly show his skills and be appreciated by real fans who don't complain all of the time
But anyways there's no way Brock will stay even if paid more. It's not really up to Brock anyways it's his brand, his agents and sponsors that determine where Brock will eventually go.
I say book Brock strong at all times and like the OP said leave WM with the strap and hell I say relinquish it and head back to UFC where he can truly show his skills and be appreciated by real fans who don't complain all of the time
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
In the grand scheme of things, I don't see Lesnar staying much longer after WrestleMania because, frankly, there's not really much of a reason to keep him around. He's humbled Triple H, he's decimated the likes of Mark Henry & Big Show, he's ended The Undertaker's undefeated streak at WrestleMania, he handed Cena the most dominant loss of his entire career and he's WWE World Heavyweight Champion. What else is there for him in WWE?
While I don't know how much Lesnar is making, I'd be willing to bet that it's at least somewhere in the mid six figures for every match he wrestles. He might even get additional money just for the appearances he makes for Raw. At any rate, with the amount of money he's getting, which is no doubt considerable, coupled with the limited number of dates he's only interested in working, there's not really any feasible way to use Lesnar to help put over younger stars. As a result, the only realistic thing to do is to book him in big money matches and make a special attraction out of him, which is what WWE has been doing since his return. Realistically, how many big money matches are there left for Lesnar at this point? He's beaten Cena, he's beaten Triple H, he's beaten CM Punk, he's beaten The Undertaker and he's defending the title at the biggest show of the year. With the exception of a one on one match with Daniel Bryan, realistically, I don't really see anything left for Lesnar. And before anyone says Sting or Orton, just stop and think about it. Sting's well into his 50s, he's not exactly a spring chicken himself, there'd be a distinct possibility of him getting legitimately hurt and putting him over Lesnar is a non-option because how's it gonna make the entire roster look when a 56 year old man could beat Lesnar but John Cena, AKA the face of WWE, didn't or an up & coming young stud like Seth Rollins couldn't? It'll make them look like chumps. As for Randy Orton, if there's anyone that a pretty sizeable number of fans are more burned out on than John Cena in big match situations, it's Randy Orton. Not that he isn't damn good and hasn't deserved to be in the spot he's had, but that doesn't change the fact that a helluva lot of people are bored with Orton in that sort of spot. Orton, like Cena, has been booked so consistently as a main event player and for such a long time that it's gotten tiresome for a lot of them. If Orton's reception during the last few times he's been World Champion is any indication, I don't think there's any real money in Orton vs. Lesnar. Besides all that, even if Orton did beat him, look at how many would complain that Orton beat Lesnar when he didn't really "need" the win, which does have some truth to it. Orton had already done just about everything there has been to do in WWE since before he was 30 years old so beating Lesnar is no huge feather in his cap.
Lesnar doesn't want to work anything remotely close to even a part time schedule, so there are built in limits as to how he can be used. Realistically, the way he's been used, namely as a special attraction, is probably the only way to use him but I also think that interest in Lesnar as that sort of attraction is fading.
While I don't know how much Lesnar is making, I'd be willing to bet that it's at least somewhere in the mid six figures for every match he wrestles. He might even get additional money just for the appearances he makes for Raw. At any rate, with the amount of money he's getting, which is no doubt considerable, coupled with the limited number of dates he's only interested in working, there's not really any feasible way to use Lesnar to help put over younger stars. As a result, the only realistic thing to do is to book him in big money matches and make a special attraction out of him, which is what WWE has been doing since his return. Realistically, how many big money matches are there left for Lesnar at this point? He's beaten Cena, he's beaten Triple H, he's beaten CM Punk, he's beaten The Undertaker and he's defending the title at the biggest show of the year. With the exception of a one on one match with Daniel Bryan, realistically, I don't really see anything left for Lesnar. And before anyone says Sting or Orton, just stop and think about it. Sting's well into his 50s, he's not exactly a spring chicken himself, there'd be a distinct possibility of him getting legitimately hurt and putting him over Lesnar is a non-option because how's it gonna make the entire roster look when a 56 year old man could beat Lesnar but John Cena, AKA the face of WWE, didn't or an up & coming young stud like Seth Rollins couldn't? It'll make them look like chumps. As for Randy Orton, if there's anyone that a pretty sizeable number of fans are more burned out on than John Cena in big match situations, it's Randy Orton. Not that he isn't damn good and hasn't deserved to be in the spot he's had, but that doesn't change the fact that a helluva lot of people are bored with Orton in that sort of spot. Orton, like Cena, has been booked so consistently as a main event player and for such a long time that it's gotten tiresome for a lot of them. If Orton's reception during the last few times he's been World Champion is any indication, I don't think there's any real money in Orton vs. Lesnar. Besides all that, even if Orton did beat him, look at how many would complain that Orton beat Lesnar when he didn't really "need" the win, which does have some truth to it. Orton had already done just about everything there has been to do in WWE since before he was 30 years old so beating Lesnar is no huge feather in his cap.
Lesnar doesn't want to work anything remotely close to even a part time schedule, so there are built in limits as to how he can be used. Realistically, the way he's been used, namely as a special attraction, is probably the only way to use him but I also think that interest in Lesnar as that sort of attraction is fading.
Heartbreak_Kid_707
Championship Contender
The reason it looks race related is because all 4 are black. Unfortunately that's today's society. You can be the most non-racist person on earth and in today's society it's gonna look that way.
But aside from race there are MANY talents that could be cut other than Kingston or Henry or big e...I agree woods needs brought to nxt. Nxt has ALOT of talent that's ready right now to be brought up.
Lesnar isn't worth any 4 wrestlers checks...
But aside from race there are MANY talents that could be cut other than Kingston or Henry or big e...I agree woods needs brought to nxt. Nxt has ALOT of talent that's ready right now to be brought up.
Lesnar isn't worth any 4 wrestlers checks...
Except for the match that he put on just a month ago at the Royal Rumble that was mainly Seth Rollins vs. Brock Lesnar when Brock wasn't suplexing Cena?
Letting Brock leave without establishing a new monster heel would be a horrible idea. That heel can be Reigns, or it can be Orton, or it can be anyone that isn't Kane or Big Show. But the role that Cena has been in for about 8 months now is a complete waste of Cena and Lesnar if they can't get another Cena competitor by Wrestlemania.
Lesnar fighting Daniel Bryan is the quintessential waste of booking. Either Lesnar beats up a small dude, or Daniel Bryan gets booked to be stronger than Cena and Rollins and HHH and Undertaker combined, which might as well be the same as Up UP DOWN DOWN B A B A Start in a video game. Lesnar and Bryan need kept away from each other unless it's in a Triple Threat or Fatal 4-way.
The smartest move to make right now is to swing Reigns heel, have Paul Heyman betray Brock, and have Rollins cash in on a beat up Brock Lesnar to become the champ. You keep the gold off of Reigns, you get a new heel to replace Brock, and you set up a nice Rollins v. Reigns and Rollins vs. Bryan future booking for the rest of the year.
The point is that if Lesnar is going to play hardball, you have to let him leave. But if you're going to let him leave, you better be ready for that MASSIVE hole he'll leave in the roster.
Planet_Velvet
www.planetvelvet.net
The key is not to fire the guys you have. The key is to figure out how to use the assets at your disposal to generate more revenue. If there is no upside in having certain guys, then you should get rid of them. But if you want to trim the fat in WWE, why not ax Heath Slater and David Otunga? Fandango should be on the chopping block as well. If there wasn't so much money invested in some of those Divas who take up space, they should automatically be axed.
Dysturbed
Under the radar
That is probably correct, but what ifs don't change what is. He didn't pick another four guys in his initial post so some posters do care. His actual point was of course that he assumes that WWE will hypothetically want to clear up some funds for Lesnar and those were some suggestions (even though they conceivably can sign him and still not release anyone from the main roster). The fact that the four people that immediately came to mind happened to be black though, and he didn't mention others as options until his second post, apparently caught the attention of some.
I don't believe that he had any racist intent at all, but it shouldn't be too hard imo to see why some perceived it that way.
Planet_Velvet
www.planetvelvet.net
With the exception of Woods in terms of key wins, the idea that either of the other three could be considered jobbers is blasphemous. Multiple championships between them and still all very young with the exception of Henry. Why not send the Ascension back down to NXT? It's not their fault. They've just been brought in the wrong way. And in a day and age where being inserted into a key match or storyline could instantly take you from the outhouse to the penthouse, can any of the guys or gals that populate RAW and Smackdown really be considered jobbers? The initial poster apparently has a hidden agenda and it isn't wrestling related at all.
