Real quick-like seeing as how this is about to be over.
Oh here we go, someone's got their panties in a wad again. For Christ's sake lighten up. The universe doesn't hang in the balance here, opinions happen to differ, logic happens to come from different places. What I rationalize may not be what you rationalize, get over it. I thought this was supposed to be fun? You, don't sound like you're having fun.
Lulz I'm fine, "panties" definitely un-wadded. Debate
is fun, hence, I have fun every year. Liger never gets far but I push for him every year just to read others so-called "rationalizations". BTW I hope you get your own irony. I enjoyed the smiley tho'. Think I'll give it a try.
I thought it actually was a good question. Jericho has had 2 big runs with the WWE, one that saw him become the Undisputed Champion, and another that saw him break his own record for I.C. title reigns, hold the tag titles, and hold multiple world titles while having good feuds, putting on great matches, and completely reinventing his character. So, which part do you consider his prime as a result?
You specified his prime. I didn't, nor would I.
Does that even matter at this point? The point is he won, he beat SCSA and The Rock in the same night to become the first Undisputed Champion in the biggest promotion on the planet. How that doesn't eclipse winning various indy titles is beyond me.
It matters when you use it as the basis for claiming a future victory in completely dissimilar circumstances. Granted, history is written by the victors; good thing these days we have it on tape.
And "
indy"?
Puh-Lease.
(Did I do the smiley right? I can never tell
)
No. If he accomplished things that Liger never has, on a grander scale than Liger has ever approached, than he must in some way be better. Maybe he has better mic skills? Maybe he is considered better at selling offense? Maybe he just has a better look? But in some way for him to succeed to the degree he has, with Liger never reaching those heights, it's not exactly far fetched to believe that he then must be a better talent in some way.
There's so much wrong here I don't even know where to begin. To put it plainly, Liger, as a non-American, has a different perception and cultural approach to what is considered the best, significant, meaningful, important, etc. Likewise, to view WWE as the be-all-end-all of Prowrestling is just close-minded.
And that's purely your opinion, not a fact at all. I was noticing that people were leaving Jericho's ability in the wind while gushing over Liger as if Jericho were some jobber that never made it. I acknowledged the lack of coverage on Jericho's ability, i.e. it being overlooked. If the bias was any greater for Liger I'd have to guess you were dating or romantically involved somehow. Now I'm being sarcastic.
Actually, as I've said before I'm a huge Jericho mark (met him several times too). I wasn't
overlooking anything nor was anyone else, not really. It was looked at and a case couldn't be/wasn't made.
Thank you for that wonderful glimpse into the life of Liger. Maybe you've got a good shot at being his publicist, or even his dental floss as far up his ass as you are. "Not as much and not as well"? Is that also a fact or another biased statement made out of fandom?
Markdom. The proper IWC term is "markdom".
Did it ever occur to you that it was not all that uncommon at one time for guys to train all over and blend styles like both Liger and Jericho have? So what was your point again?
The thought literally
NEVER crossed my mind
(I'd put the smiley there but I wouldn't want to be repetitive. Instead, just
imagine the eye rolling.) Anywhoo, my point was Jericho was similar to Liger in many respects. Just inferior. I though that was clear, no?
No I meant that with his style, Liger may be more of a showman or a spectacle to watch, but regardless Jericho still puts on as good of a show while wrestling a different style.
Um, yea, I was just making a joke about jobbing. You know, just trying to have fun and all.
And my point was that Jericho is sooo good that he even looks good when losing, pointing at him doing everything very well. I never said it was about who would look better losing, that was an oversimplification of my statement.
You made a tertiary point with regards to why someone is "better" and how that would somehow influence the outcome of a match. I was merely synthesizing it back down to the point of the whole affair i.e. bringing it back to this match,
right now,
right here
in EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.! (cheap pop? anybody?)
Ya see, it's stuff like this where the bias and hatred is so vehement, the statement is so preposterous that I can't even take it with a grain of salt because that would be giving you and your statement too much credit. Which title run were you referring to btw? He's had plenty and played his role perfectly each time whether he was supposed to look weak since he was the heel or dominant as a heel.
Hatred? lulz. Not really, but sure, ok. The thing is,
you made mention his prime remember, he can only have
onewas around the time of his undisputed win. I'm simply recalling that that was also the time of his terrible title run, and dog poo work. You left the door wide-open. I just stepped through.
Unless of course you mean his prime was literally that one night and not the title run after
you know, the night that he needed to cheat massively to succeed at.
(Naaaaaailed it! Score!)
And next I'm assuming you're going to be telling me that he raised Lazarus from the dead, healed the blind, walked on water, turned water into wine, was crucified and resurrected in 3 days, and that you are anxiously awaiting his second coming?
Pfffft. Liger would P'WN Jesus in a match, duh.
But again, my point w/o your added hyperbole, was that Liger has an entire career based on beating those who are exceedingly similar to Chris Jericho, the man he's up against in this round. Rather than
refute that you say I'm comparing Liger to Jesus. *shrug* Ok.
Pop quiz.
Who'd win in a wrestling match, Liger or God?
Wrong,
trick question dick head,
Liger IS God.
[/sarcasm]
You speak as though Jericho has just done nothing during his career. As if, he's never beat anyone remotely like Liger at all, which common sense has to tell you is simply not true. From his cruiser weight days in WCW to his last days in WWE he's beaten every variety of superstar there is, so how is he inferior here again?
First, specificity trumps variety. Second, I know who has beaten who and Liger has been more dominant. Simple as.
Oh that's right, his name isn't Jushin Liger, and you haven't given yourself a name on an internet forum devoted to him.
Man, I
wish this forum was devoted to him. Don't look now but your participle is dangling.
Really? I don't think ya do. But keep trying. I'm sure you'll get it one of these days, dark horse you may be.
I'm not sure if anyone clued you in yet, but this match isn't taking place at all. It's a vote. I happened to vote for Jericho for a number of reasons.
Again, seeing the irony? You did not see how I was merely going off how
you mentioned
this match was
taking place in American and not Japan, yes? So to that I say
"I'm not sure if anyone clued you in yet, but this match
isn't taking place at all."
You continue to slobber all over Liger for a number of reasons. Big deal. My guess is as good as yours. Maybe next time you will be more considerate of other peoples guesses in a fictitious tournament, that has nothing real at stake, and is supposed to be fun for everyone, instead of a pissing match. You can gladly have the urinal, I'm just having fun.
You posted your "guesses" on a
discussion board. Its sole purpose which is to spark discourse and debate (especially during polled tournaments). If you didn't want people to retort you could have voted and written nothing like practically everyone else has done. Why on earth would you expect consideration? Again, the irony is tremendous. For a guy who doesn't care and wants to have fun you seem to be very critical. As for me? I had a blast. See ya next year!
