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HHH Vs. Daniel Bryan, US Title fued, possibility?

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Hello everyone. Now this most likely wont happen but if this were to happen, what do you all think about it?

Say HHH comes back and says hey Vince daddy, I've never held the US Championship, I'm goin to fued with DB and hold the belt to add to my list of titles held. Yall know, because The Game is the man and has never held that Championship. So HHH comes back and does something that starts a fued vs. Bryan. Have them go for a few months at least, HHH lets DB get a clean win over him in their first US Championship match. Next ppv, HHH gets a clean win and starts his first US Championship reign. DB rematch at next ppv, HHH "injures" DB so hes out of action for a month or so.

So The Game will bring some credibility back to the US Championship durring his reign. Have him fued with another younger guy till Bryan is back from "injury" and get back in the fued. DB Vs. HHH Vs. (3rd guy) at another ppv for title, DB wins dirty and gets title. HHH Vs. (3rd guy) in a #1 contenders match, HHH wins. It brings up a DB Vs. HHH (lets say in a street fight match) at the following PPV, HHH wins and gets the title back. Then give HHH the title for at least a couple more months doing fueds with younger talent to help them get over a bit before he drops it and gets back in the main event possibly.

Am I too far off here, or can it actually happen?
 
Absolutely not. Why would you want to bump a true main event stay DOWN to the mid-card to feud for a championship that he practically doesn't need to further his legacy? If Bryan is ever gonna be feuding with Triple H, it will be with Bryan in the upper mid-card trying to get elevated into the main event through Triple H. Not Triple H ever feuding with Bryan for the mid-card championship.

And some might argue that Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio does it all the time, in bumping down to feud for the mid-card championships. Well that's because they're hardly main event stays. As well as the fact that they're versatile. Triple H isn't versatile in the way that he can switch divisions left and right to benefit that division. He can switch to the tag team division, because that is for everybody, but he can't switch to the mid-card, because he's a main event wrestler.

So to answer your question. You're not only too far off, you're way far off.
 
Ferbs said everything that needed to be said.
This is like saying that Matt Hardy will win a major WWE title ever. Don't say ECW title is major because it aint.
Anyways, no this will never happen because HHH is too big for that title. By too big I mean in star power. He wants to reach Flair in World titles, why would he go for the U.S. Championship?
Not even people like CM Punk would go for that title even though he does not seem like main event all the time. I don't see anyone with the caliber of star power or close to it as HHH ever going for that title again in their whole careers.
 
Well why does he always have to be in the main event scene? Just because someone is main event status doesnt mean they cant take a break from it and hold a mid card title for a bit. I know I'm not the only one sick of always seeing HHH in main events. C'mon already, we know hes da man but he doesnt have to be in the main events all the time. It gets boring, give other wrestlers a chance to have a main event spot.
 
Well why does he always have to be in the main event scene? Just because someone is main event status doesnt mean they cant take a break from it and hold a mid card title for a bit. I know I'm not the only one sick of always seeing HHH in main events. C'mon already, we know hes da man but he doesnt have to be in the main events all the time. It gets boring, give other wrestlers a chance to have a main event spot.

I don't think he always has to be in the main event. He makes matches main event status. It does not matter if it is to open a show or to close it. You can give other guys a chance in the main event, but HHH can't get out of it just because he is too big. Therefore the U.S. Championship is never going to be competed by again by him. Again, no need for main event, but he needs someone credible to compete against. I'm not saying Daniel Bryan is not credible, but until he does not get that title off his waist don't expect him in a feud with HHH. Unless he wants to have both that and the WWE Championship which would be rare if WWE did that.
 
Well why does he always have to be in the main event scene? Just because someone is main event status doesnt mean they cant take a break from it and hold a mid card title for a bit. I know I'm not the only one sick of always seeing HHH in main events. C'mon already, we know hes da man but he doesnt have to be in the main events all the time. It gets boring, give other wrestlers a chance to have a main event spot.

HHH will always be in the mainevent scene because he is one of the very few actual draws left in the company (along with Taker, Cena and Mysterio). There is absolutely no chance HHH would be feuding over a midcard title at this point in time, ESPECIALLY when the US/IC titles mean absolutely nothing anymore.

If you think HHH going for the title all the time is boring I can understand that. He does not always have to be after the heavyweight titles but he will not and should not be demoted to the mid-card.
 
Well why does he always have to be in the main event scene? Just because someone is main event status doesnt mean they cant take a break from it and hold a mid card title for a bit. I know I'm not the only one sick of always seeing HHH in main events. C'mon already, we know hes da man but he doesnt have to be in the main events all the time. It gets boring, give other wrestlers a chance to have a main event spot.

You're shitting me right?

Triple H is gonna be in the main event scene because it makes absolutely zero sense to bump him down into a division where he should practically be dominating each and every one of them. Triple H is at the level of kayfabe where it's not believable that he would struggle with mid-carders when he has been a main event stay for about 10 years.

Giving the main event scene to others? Seriously? Sheamus, Wade Barrett, Randy Orton, Batista, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio are just a few of the names that have been in the main event scene while Triple H have been in the main event scene. You don't just trash a guy from the main event scene just to make room for others. They retire to make room, or put them temporarily on the shelf (Like Triple H is right now). If anything of making room for others, it's putting someone who has been in the title hunt for a while, into a non-title feud.
 
It is likely that this never happens, for a lot of reasons, mainly trip's ego, but:

Those of you saying why bring a main eventer down...well, last I checked you can only have 2 main event title matches. That means at most ppv's, we are looking at 4 guys. So the question is, why not. I think all it would do is bring prestige back to the mid card titles if these guys were fighting for them. Imagine, if you will, that right now while Orton and Kane are champ, fighting Barrett and Taker, that Cena decided to play the old card, and go after the IC title (and yes, I realize they are on different shows), which used to be the number one contender. Imagine Cena, the Undertaker, HHH, even Orton, Sheamus, vying for the title. First off, if you want to make Miz and Morrison and Kofi and DB main eventers, THAT is the way to do it. Have them in a prolonged feud with a true main event player. It seems like most people have no problem with Jericho, Mysterio, Kane, Big Show, going in between mid card and main event status, why shouldn't these other guys. I think something needs to be done to make people care about the mid card titles, and that something is to make big name players fight for it. Who cares if Dolph Ziggler has the title? This would build the titles up AND give you a way to make mid card stars become TRUE main event players - not just throwing them in with a briefcase on an attack and giving them the title.

Just look at Austin, The Rock, HHH, HBK, Bret Hart all became stars. I assure you none of them used money in the bank, they used the IC title with long feuds with veterans. Bret beat Piper and Mr. Perfect and then won the Royal Rumble. HBK beat the British Bulldog and Razor Ramon, and then won the Royal Rumble. Austin won the Rumble first, and then the IC title before winning the big one, but he feuded with 4 time WWE Champ Bret Hart for no title: IE MID CARD STATUS.

Big names have to come down and put over new stars, its how the business works. IF HHH would do this, it would be HUGE for DB, so why not?

Have Orton or Cena put Barrett over, have Kane put Kofi over, have Edge put Swagger over. Do them over the IC and US titles. Do them in non title matches. But WWE for the love of God, stop having Cena Orton and Edge involved in every title match without putting anyone over. Bring them down and build new stars.
 
Well why does he always have to be in the main event scene? Just because someone is main event status doesnt mean they cant take a break from it and hold a mid card title for a bit. I know I'm not the only one sick of always seeing HHH in main events. C'mon already, we know hes da man but he doesnt have to be in the main events all the time. It gets boring, give other wrestlers a chance to have a main event spot.

Others have already pointed out what is wrong with this statement, but I'll take it a little further and say Triple H isn't always in the main event scene. Last year he and HBK worked a program with Legacy. Earlier this year he went on fourth at mania in his match with Sheamus elevating Sheamus to the main event.

Let's go all the way back to 2001. Triple H was already a multi time champion and established main event superstar. He won the IC title and dropped it to Jeff Hardy. Some people liked that a lot, but it just didn't feel right to me.

I don't mind HHH working with guys like Hardy in 2001 or Legacy last year. I just don't think he should be going for mid card titles when he's won the big one 13 times. That's almost like a demotion in my mind.
 
It is likely that this never happens, for a lot of reasons, mainly trip's ego, but:

Those of you saying why bring a main eventer down...well, last I checked you can only have 2 main event title matches. That means at most ppv's, we are looking at 4 guys. So the question is, why not. I think all it would do is bring prestige back to the mid card titles if these guys were fighting for them. Imagine, if you will, that right now while Orton and Kane are champ, fighting Barrett and Taker, that Cena decided to play the old card, and go after the IC title (and yes, I realize they are on different shows), which used to be the number one contender. Imagine Cena, the Undertaker, HHH, even Orton, Sheamus, vying for the title. First off, if you want to make Miz and Morrison and Kofi and DB main eventers, THAT is the way to do it. Have them in a prolonged feud with a true main event player. It seems like most people have no problem with Jericho, Mysterio, Kane, Big Show, going in between mid card and main event status, why shouldn't these other guys. I think something needs to be done to make people care about the mid card titles, and that something is to make big name players fight for it. Who cares if Dolph Ziggler has the title? This would build the titles up AND give you a way to make mid card stars become TRUE main event players - not just throwing them in with a briefcase on an attack and giving them the title.

Just look at Austin, The Rock, HHH, HBK, Bret Hart all became stars. I assure you none of them used money in the bank, they used the IC title with long feuds with veterans. Bret beat Piper and Mr. Perfect and then won the Royal Rumble. HBK beat the British Bulldog and Razor Ramon, and then won the Royal Rumble. Austin won the Rumble first, and then the IC title before winning the big one, but he feuded with 4 time WWE Champ Bret Hart for no title: IE MID CARD STATUS.

Big names have to come down and put over new stars, its how the business works. IF HHH would do this, it would be HUGE for DB, so why not?

Have Orton or Cena put Barrett over, have Kane put Kofi over, have Edge put Swagger over. Do them over the IC and US titles. Do them in non title matches. But WWE for the love of God, stop having Cena Orton and Edge involved in every title match without putting anyone over. Bring them down and build new stars.

That is like saying that if Austin or the Rock ever came back to wrestling they would try to go for the U.S. Championship. Total nonsense. HHH has one a midcard title too but when he was moving up. He is already up there and U.S. title would seriously demote him. I would stop watching Raw if that shit happened and he is not one of my favorites.
 
That is a STUPID idea. Why would you put one of your biggest faces in a midcard title match against a rookie? HHH wouldn't do that. He knows that the US Title helps push young guys up, like the IC did for him. Just no. I don't know what your smoking, but you need to stop it.
 
That's not necessarily true. Look at Ric Flair. He went after the Intercontinental title during his last WWE stint.

Haha I guess you are right that is why I didn't mention him. That is also why I didn't mention Bret Hart winning the U.S. Championship this year or last year I think. Those guys are too old and mostly forgotten by the casual fans of today. Plus Ric just wanted to keep wrestling and didn't care what he was doing. HHH still cares about his job.
 
That's not necessarily true. Look at Ric Flair. He went after the Intercontinental title during his last WWE stint.

Didn't Triple H actually call him out and turn against him for celebrating winning a mid card title? He said Flair shouldn't be proud of that title. They had a bloody steel cage match at Taboo Tuesday. I bet you most people completely forgot that was an IC title match because those two do not belong in the IC title scene.
 
No. This makes NO SENSE at all. Why would you take an established Main Eventer, HHH, and put him in a feud with DBD. Look, I get it, DBD is good, but he shouldn't be facing Triple Fucking H over the US Title. Logically, since Trips is a 13-time World Champ, shouldn't he dominate the US Title division? Triple H isn't even going to consider doing such a thing. The guy is going to come back and then come right after Sheamus, then eventually win the World Championship... Just like he always does.

Triple H isn't a guy who can pull off the whole division jump without looking bad. Jericho can, but that's because he's done it his whole career. HHH just isn't that type of a guy. I can see an HHH vs Bryan feud down the road... maybe, but over a World Championship.
 
Lol.

Daniel. Bryan. Is. Not. The. Messiah.

Simply because he's the subject of many threads on the internet does not make him a viable main-event performer. He'll have to earn that spot over the next couple of years. Do I see him making it? I'm a skeptic, but I do believe he'll main-event one day.

However, that is not any day soon and should certainly not involve HHH putting him (a midcarder who hasn't proven anything) over at great expense to HHH. Triple H is a main-eventer, a legend and one of the best wrestlers of all time. Daniel Bryan is a midcard champion who under no circumstances should be going around pinning main-eventers clean.

For God's sake, just because you like Danielson does not mean he's deserving of main-event status.
 
You said it yourself, this probably wont happen.

However, I am not going to get on your case like some of the other posters are. The fact of the matter is that this could happen and if it did, then I could see it being beneficial for everyone.

Look at what Triple H does, he makes people credible. His loses to Randy Orton, John Cena and Sheamus have put them into a world of progress that they would never have found if it was not for the win over Triple H. He may hold people back but when people do go over him, you know that the WWE are serious about that particular talent. In my opinion, they are serious about Daniel Bryan. They have put him over The Miz a couple of times in recent weeks and seem to be really involved in his feuds. A feud with Triple H would propel him into that same region as the names I have mentioned earlier. Does he deserve it? Probably not. However, if he comes out and gives us a good showing and a feud that the fans can get involved in, are we losing anything?

Having Triple H and Daniel Bryan feud over the US Championship is also a good thing for the US Championship. At the end of the day, everyone seems to be harping on about credibility in WWE belts not being the same as it was. Well if that is the case, give it to someone who we actually believe to be a superstar within the company. Have Triple H carry it for a while and have him feud with Daniel Bryan. The people would get involved and the US Championship would come out of the feud looking better than ever.

The only person it could possibly negatively affect is Triple H. However, at this point in his career, he should be looking to put people like Daniel Bryan over at a time like this. Give him a couple of wins over The Game and Daniel Bryan’s WWE career will be legitimised instantly.

It’s nto a horrible idea but it might not be too practical. I like your thinking though.
 
Aside from all the reasons people gave above, it would just seem weird.

After JBL lost the WWE Championship that he won from Eddie Guerrero and held for nine months (the longest reign in ten years which he liked to brag about), he held the U.S. title for about a month and a half. A few years later, he won the Intercontinental Championship.

In both of those latter instances, it just seemed very strange that someone positioned as a main event wrestler and as physically tall as he was held the midcard titles. And that was JBL, someone that doesn't and never had even a fraction of the kayfabe credibility Triple H does.

I can't see Trips ever holding a midcard title at this point unless WWE did some weird bullsh*t storyline to intentionally trash the title for some weird reason.

Interestingly enough, it didn't at all seem weird to me that CM Punk, who JBL defeated for the I-C belt but couldn't defeat to win the WWE Championship a second time, was holding a midcard title after having held a top title, maybe because CM Punk doesn't necessarily fit the mold of the traditional main eventer and/or because it was kind of obvious that the first championship reign was to really cement the importance of the Money In The Bank victory and to try something new with an unconventional champ.
 
Lol.

Daniel. Bryan. Is. Not. The. Messiah.

Simply because he's the subject of many threads on the internet does not make him a viable main-event performer. He'll have to earn that spot over the next couple of years. Do I see him making it? I'm a skeptic, but I do believe he'll main-event one day.

However, that is not any day soon and should certainly not involve HHH putting him (a midcarder who hasn't proven anything) over at great expense to HHH. Triple H is a main-eventer, a legend and one of the best wrestlers of all time. Daniel Bryan is a midcard champion who under no circumstances should be going around pinning main-eventers clean.

For God's sake, just because you like Danielson does not mean he's deserving of main-event status.

While I agree that Bryan Danielson isn't all that, I'd have to say that the people posting that seemed to be simply making the point that if Triple H and Daniel Bryan ever feuded over a title, it would be over a World Championship and not a mid-card belt.
 
There's virtually no chance of this happening. Triple H has been a legitimate main eventer and big time player in the WWE for a decade now. He's one of the biggest stars in the company, has won more world titles than anyone in the history of the WWE barring Ric Flair and has feuded with the biggest names to come through the company. I'm a fan of Daniel Bryan, he's impressed me a lot in general, but a feud with him would be a HUGE step down for Triple H at this time.

Given what happened on Raw last Monday, it's more likely that a feud with Sheamus would take place. Sheamus is out of the WWE Championship picture, he's not really doing much so I'd like to see a little something there. It's even more likely that Bryan will begin a program with John Morrison before too long. If I'm not mistaken, he's wrestling against Morrison on a show this weekend.

On top of all that, I'm not really sure how much time Triple H is going to be spending in the ring. He's officially a WWE executive now, officially Vince's advisor and management even had an office built for him at WWE headquarters. Tack onto that the wear and tear of the road seems to be getting to Triple H, then I'm not really sure how feesible this is. IF, and I do mean IF, this feud ever were to happen then it could potentially make Bryan's career in the WWE.
 
i dont know
as it already has been mentioned, HHH with the US title would just be weird... i mean what would a 13 time world champion be doing with the US title.... i wouldnt object to a FUTURE feud between HHH and DB as long as DB get credible enough to go one on one with the game and have people think that DB might actually beat him... as for the title, i have nothing against everyone having a shot at the belt but there are cretain people that are too BIG for the title, why do you think Cena hasnt challenged for the US title again?, 6 years ago he loved that belt, why didnt stone cold challenged for the IC title after 98, why didnt the rock did that after 99.... HHH held it in 01 for a week and the for a month before passing it to kane and that was just to advance the two man power trip storyline, and the last time HHH had a run with the midcard belt was 98... the last time he won the midcard title was in 02 and only to unify it to the WHC, he didnt even hold the actual belt for a night! so while i dont oppose to a HHH BD feud i do object to HHH carrying a title that everyone knows its beneat him
 
Absolutely not. Why would you want to bump a true main event stay DOWN to the mid-card to feud for a championship that he practically doesn't need to further his legacy? If Bryan is ever gonna be feuding with Triple H, it will be with Bryan in the upper mid-card trying to get elevated into the main event through Triple H. Not Triple H ever feuding with Bryan for the mid-card championship.

And some might argue that Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio does it all the time, in bumping down to feud for the mid-card championships. Well that's because they're hardly main event stays. As well as the fact that they're versatile. Triple H isn't versatile in the way that he can switch divisions left and right to benefit that division. He can switch to the tag team division, because that is for everybody, but he can't switch to the mid-card, because he's a main event wrestler.

So to answer your question. You're not only too far off, you're way far off.

You have a valid point, but Triple H has stepped down before and held a mid card title ( the intercontinental title ) after he was already a multi-time WWE Champion..... it was when Austin and Triple H formed the Power Trip tag team they held not only the tag team titles but at the same time Stone Cold was the WWE Champ and Triple H was the IC Champ. I'm not saying that it will happen (H taking the US title from DB) all I'm saying is that he has done it before.
 
That's a horrid idea, and that was fuckin' being nice...

How would it add credibility to a title, to have Bryan lose it to HHH? The key to add credibility to the title IS to have Daniel Bryan hold it for a good amount of time. His wrestling style, popularity and choice opponents, will add a more credible outlook on his reign in general. Thus, leading to the title's credibility!

It is already off to a great start. He has defeated The Miz (Soon To Be WWE Champ More Than Likely), and Morrison, AND even both of them in the same match.

He has basically overcome adversity since he attained the title, also while trying to capture that title.

Sounds like credibility to me!

I just hate the whole thread idea in general. A Bryan/Game feud is anything and everything but appealing to me!! It's too early to even consider having him in a program opposite of Trips!
 
The US Title is for the mid carders to help push them through to the main event roster. Having HHH bury Bryan Danielson would be stupid booking. Having Bryan go over HHH and retain the title though, thats another thing entirely. HHH needs to be either in the WWE Title picture, or a high level feud where he can get other guys over, like he did for Sheamus
 
Why does everybody automatically assume that if HHH feuds with Bryan, that Bryan is going to get buried. Let's look at some samples of HHH's career since 2005.

He put Batista over three straight times. It still feels strange that they haven't fought since then.

Even though I didn't like the way HHH went about his feud with Cena, he still tapped out to the guy.

Edge just got out of a feud with Cena and Orton was floundering around before they feuded with DX.

Helped establish Jeff Hardy as a main eventer.

Feuded with Legacy and Jericho and Big Show

Putting over Sheamus.

The recent HHH gives me no indication that he will bury Bryan if they were to feud. If we're talking about the HHH from 2002-2004, then maybe. HHH understands what is good for business and if that means putting over Bryan in this stage of his career, then he will do it as he has shown in the past few years.
 
Why does everybody automatically assume that if HHH feuds with Bryan, that Bryan is going to get buried. Let's look at some samples of HHH's career since 2005.

He put Batista over three straight times. It still feels strange that they haven't fought since then.

Even though I didn't like the way HHH went about his feud with Cena, he still tapped out to the guy.

Edge just got out of a feud with Cena and Orton was floundering around before they feuded with DX.

Helped establish Jeff Hardy as a main eventer.

Feuded with Legacy and Jericho and Big Show

Putting over Sheamus.

The recent HHH gives me no indication that he will bury Bryan if they were to feud. If we're talking about the HHH from 2002-2004, then maybe. HHH understands what is good for business and if that means putting over Bryan in this stage of his career, then he will do it as he has shown in the past few years.

I didn't say he would get buried at all. I think HHH and WWE are smart enough to know what they have with Bryan.

I just don't like the idea of using HHH to bring credibility to the title. I think that could be an accolade and accomplishment of Bryan's.

I mean Jesus, I am a HUGE Trip's fan, but does he need to be the one that sets the standard for everything??? The business and characters in general, can do fine and get ahead AND get pushed without the involvement of HHH.

Bryan has done fine thus far without having ANYTHING to do with Triple H.

You used Sheamus as an example. What are people saying about him? He is only popular because he is Triple H's boy!

I wouldn't want people to start saying that about Bryan!
 

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