HHH developments..effect on 'taker fued?

[poppycock]

What effect do you think the latest Triple H developments (be it story or legit) will have on his possible match with the returning Undertaker? (Keeping in mind I know the rematch is not official but go along with it for now)

Could it possibly allow The Undertaker to return with an actual story rather than just a couple of promos resulting in a one off match, or is he too wrecked for anything more. Something along the lines of a WWE take over attempt with a new dark stable. It could even see Kane and X-Pac relive the past and go at it one more time.

Anyway any ideas for how to approach the match now Triple H is in power? Owner Vs Phenom? Kliq Vs New Ministry? Just a one off rematch?

Can you see Triple H's position effecting the outcome?

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

If they have another mania match, which is a possibility, I can see HHH using his power to simply book it. Like "I wanna beat your ass deadman, and I have the power to make it happen". I don't think his real life job (he actually does have an office in the headquarters) would be affected. It's just one night. I don't think this changes much at all honestly.

 

[Guyzwitgunz]

What 'Taker feud? They had a match at WrestleMania and that was that, there is no more 'feud' between them, I honestly don't want to see another match between them that bad any way, Punk vs Cena totally overshadowed their WM match and surpassed it as Match of the Year so far. No one knows definitely where this feud is going but I see it very unlikely that it is going to lead to another match between HHH and Taker

 

[poppycock]

To the poster above.. I already stated in my post that the fued/rematch is not yet official but go along with it as if it where for now. I would personally not be botherd about another Triple H Vs Undertaker Wrestlemania match but if it where to happen I asked would last nights events effect anything in people opinions and now HHH has a new position what (kayfabe) story ideas people had to go about the "possible" rematch. Also match of the year or not I do not care it was bloody good as was Cena Vs Punk.

 

[sabataged]

I think the whole program with Taker is dead. I think HHH vs Punk will be the Co-Main event with Rock/Cena in Miami this year.

I can see HHH trying to play the good guy role and get CM Punk re-signed but when Punk treat him like shit because HHH isn't no different then Vince to him it will turn HHH heel. They start a program. Finally HHH offers him the main event at Wrestlemania which draws CM Punk back to WWE.

 

[closet_fan]

This is just another thing WWE flubbed and is hoping the fans forget. I remember perfectly right after WM, HHH came out and said they would meet again, so everyone assumed it would be at next year's Wrestlemania.

But with everything that has been going on with Punk and last night's storyline, the WWE pushed it to the back burner, leaving fans who remember what HHH said wondering.

 

[king4day]

This is just another thing WWE flubbed and is hoping the fans forget. I remember perfectly right after WM, HHH came out and said they would meet again, so everyone assumed it would be at next year's Wrestlemania.

But with everything that has been going on with Punk and last night's storyline, the WWE pushed it to the back burner, leaving fans who remember what HHH said wondering.

Would anyone really be upset by not having HHH/Undertaker though? Two wrestlers who fight once or twice a year....no thanks.
This would be a godsend.
I want Taker/Del Rio. Taker wins but Rio looks good while losing to help propel him.

If they REALLY want to take a risk, Punk might be the one guy who can beat Undertaker at Mania and get away with it.

 

[niconoFR]

@ king4day
I agree with your last sentence !
If Punk goes on saying that he's "the best in the world"....he could ask to face the Undertaker at WM28 to try and prove it to everybody....
and if the WWE puts so much into Punk....maybe he could end the streak......who knows ?
(but I really doubt the fact that the streak will be broken...on the other hand, "streak matches" every year is starting to annoy me)

 

[poppycock]

I think CM Punk Vs (Triple H or The Undertaker) at Wrestlemania both have the potential to be huge and I would rather see them than a Triple H Vs Undertaker rematch but I would also be interested in CM Punk Vs Chris Jericho if Chris is to return in the future.

Is there any news on when The Undertaker plans to come back if ever? I saw the recent photo of him with what looked like shaven hair hidden under a hat. Maybe this is an indication of a new persona he plans to return with for one last run. I am not sure how active HHH is going to be as far as in ring performances go but if he could win the WWE Championship one more time and get involved in a storyline with CM Punk resulting in a Wrestlemania Champion Vs Real Champion (CM Punk) match to unify the belts and leave CM Punk the undisputed WWE Champion that could be interesting.

I do think Hunter and The Undertaker have unfinished business that needs to be put to rest but maybe not at Wrestlemania. I think everything depends on how active everybody involved is going to be from now until they finally hang up the boots and call it a day which does not seem far off for The Undertaker at least.

 

[wbc12804]

With HHH and Undertkaer having unfinished business, I would have thought that HBK would have done something in last year's wrestlemania with these two icons. Being a ref, or making it a triple threat and see who's desire between HHH and HBK is stronger to end the greatest strek in wwe

 

[silrock316]

What 'Taker feud? They had a match at WrestleMania and that was that, there is no more 'feud' between them, I honestly don't want to see another match between them that bad any way, Punk vs Cena totally overshadowed their WM match and surpassed it as Match of the Year so far. No one knows definitely where this feud is going but I see it very unlikely that it is going to lead to another match between HHH and Taker

So I am going to take it that you did not watch the Raw after WrestleMania? Where HHH clearly and as blunt as one can, told The Undertaker that if the Undertaker does indeed return for a WrestleMania match he(HHH) would be here waiting for him? Sure sounds like an open ended fued to me.

Or was that a Raw simply taped for my TV and no one else got to see it. Like they taped a different Raw for everyone else except my tv? Nah, I am pretty sure everyone else seen it too. Therefore they would like to do Taker/HHH 2 if there isn't anything hotter for Taker to do.

On to the subject, I dont think this thing with HHH is anything other than a ploy to keep Cena on the roster. I dont know how much we will see of HHH after this little storyline. Unless they plan on using this as a way to bring Punk back too? Which if thats the case would put the Undertaker conversation on hold for a long time anyway.

The recent picture I seen of Undertaker just tells me he is broken down and really doesnt even know if there will be one more match. He completely shaved his head and looks really really old. I for one would be pretty disappointed if Takers last match was in the American badass character as when I look back on wrestling 20 years from now I will not remember Taker as the American Badass rather the Deadman.

So the Taker/HHH thing may be dead as we speak but there WAS a definite under belly storyline for the two when HHH had his promo the day after Raw. Which, correct me if I am wrong, was HHH's last television appearance prior to last night?

 

[spinningtorturerack]

I hope we get to see HHH give a lot more involvement in storylines in a non-wrestling role than we have seen from Vince in the last few years, I think this is definitely what both RAW and Smackdown are lacking, if anything.

As for the Undertaker open ended feud, I don't want to see that reignited again. We already have our main appeal, nostalgia act in the Rock vs John Cena, we don't want two headliners of the same nature. I would like to see Undertaker finish at twenty nil and then ride off into the sunset, head held high. Maybe a high profile feud with Del Rio, CM Punk or the Miz. But not over the streak, I'd like to see Taker involved in a storyline other than that for mania, give him a reason for being in the match other than its wrestlemania!

 

[SuperSteve16]

With HHH and Undertkaer having unfinished business, I would have thought that HBK would have done something in last year's wrestlemania with these two icons. Being a ref, or making it a triple threat and see who's desire between HHH and HBK is stronger to end the greatest strek in wwe

Shawn Michaels is retired and while I would like to see the triple threat, it will never happen. As for HBK being the ref, I think the WWE didn't want to do anything that could have potentially hurt the quality of the match.
As for HHH's new position possibly effecting the Undertaker/Triple H fued, I don't see the Undertaker returning any-time soon, but if Triple H is still in control of the WWE, he could use his power to get his rematch, or even possibly turn heel and stack the odds against the undertaker, before or after the match. Or the whole fued could be ignored, aka Triple H/Sheamus from 2010

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

This is just another thing WWE flubbed and is hoping the fans forget. I remember perfectly right after WM, HHH came out and said they would meet again, so everyone assumed it would be at next year's Wrestlemania.

But with everything that has been going on with Punk and last night's storyline, the WWE pushed it to the back burner, leaving fans who remember what HHH said wondering.

Them not doing another HHH vs Taker is a flub in the same way me saying "I'm going to go 1 for 4 tonight with a double" and not doing it is a flub. It's nothing so big that you should absolutely hold your word to it. Plus it was mostly used to keep a buzz going for the replay buys.

 

[poppycock]

I think it is just the nature of the business that every once in a while things are just meant to be "forgotten" about or not reflected on too much. Many a time a superstar as gone off for one reason or another and come back with a whole new gimmick/persona and we are not meant to batter an eyelid or question it.. it just is what it is to allow for something better to develop. Same with certain storylines I imagine?!

I would like to see The Undertaker go out against sombody with more status than Del Rio seeing as it could be his potential last match ever in the WWE.. if that person be Triple H then so be it. I know The Undertaker has toyed with losing the streak to put sombody over before so Del Rio or CM Punk Vs Taker does hold a certain amount of interest. If the streak ever did end I don't think it would be right for Triple H to be the one to do it and would much rather it be CM Punk...

 

[ralphie9181]

I honestly couldn't care any less to see them wrestle each other again. They had a good match already this year. Leave it at that. I think there are bigger fish to fry than shoving two banged up, past their prime guys on us again. If they do it at Summerslam I'm okay with that, but not at Mania. I will watch the match but I'm just not interested in seeing it again. They have already had 2 matches at Wrestlemania

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Triple H wants to be the man, who ends Taker's illustrious undefeated Wrestlemania streak. HHH already has enough gold and other accolades on his track record, but he hasn't defeated Taker at the big show. These two having a rematch should be enough of a story, if the match takes place at Wrestlemania 28.

The rematch should generate a good amount of buzz. These two men are legends, and HHH came so close to ending the streak at this year's Mania. I seriously believed Taker's streak was over after HHH hit the Tombstone, and I was legitimately shocked when Taker managed to kick out. Over the years, Taker's opponents have continued to become more and more prestigious. HHH is one of those guys, who is a believable threat to the streak. CM Punk has received a monster push this year, but I don't think I could buy into him as the guy, who takes down The Deadman at Wrestlemania. I also wouldn't believe Del Rio or any other current full time wrestler on WWE's roster.

 

[Dan E. Inferno]

HHH vs Undertaker at Wrestlemania 28, if that is indeed the long term plan, would pretty much sell itself. Assuming HHH is still running the company by then, there's no reason that should matter. Infact, if they did push that angle, it could just get in the way of the bigger picture. HHH looking to end the streak. Taker possibly reaching 20-0. I believe this match could also convince some fans that the streak will end. Many will find it hard to believe that HHH will job to Taker at all three of their Wrestlemania matches. I remember reading some time ago the possibility of HHH vs Taker at Summerslam. Obviously, that wouldn't work now, but WM28 is still a legit possibility. Like Mitch said above, it's gotten to the point where Taker has to face someone with credibility at Wrestlemania. The likes of Sheamus, Del Rio and Miz don't even compare to HHH in the credibility stakes. The only other option would have been Cena, but he is now otherwise engaged at Wrestlemania. So, Taker vs HHH in a straight up rematch seems like a good way to go.

 

[DeadmanFan]

I'd really love to see a Taker-Punk feud heading into mania, and the last thing I want to see is yet another match with Triple H. But seriously, take a look at what silrock316 was talking about:

He really does look real broken and beaten down. I wonder if it's even possible for him to wrestle one more time.

 

[poppycock]

He does not exactly look broken and beaten down to me. Shorter hair and no dye to knock off some years.. a bit thinner seeing as he probably has not been working out as often as he would be if he were active at the moment. It's a strange photo anyway as far as lighting goes..I would like to see a few more before I declared him broken down looking. He is not as young as he used to be but I doubt he is at deaths door just yet. I wonder if he really is bald under that hat or just has really short hair. A totally bald with dyed black goatee demonesque Undertaker could be interesting.

The way he went out before (not in a coffin as usual) makes me think maybe he will come back in a non deadman form, I hope I am wrong. Perhaps he will come back more as Mark Calaway than as The Undertaker.

 

[Hazardous]

Honestly, I would rather 'Taker retire while he can still walk. don't want to see him all..well.. Hogan'd out in the middle of the ring. If he doesn't think he can put on a great match, then I don't see him coming back. Undertaker is not the kind of guy who will go out there and put on a half ass match. Better yet, he's not some old man who NEEDS to be in the ring on a weekly basis. I think his talents are better used just as they are being so now. Training new talent. Who better to find and train the stars of tomorrow, than the greatest locker room leader the WWE has ever had?

WWE will just forget that HHH promo ever happened. Just like they tried to forget about HHH vs Undertaker 1.

 

[A**hole]

I don't know but I assumed Taker had a physical problem since he wasn't active before WM and hasn't been seen since?
Michelle McCool also leaving makes me think he is close to retirement if not already retired.
I do expect 1 last match from him @ WM though to bring him to 20-0
If it's against HHH I can see it developing from the Mr McMahon storyline

 

[poppycock]

So I do not really claim to be in knowledge of or go out my way to seek a lot of the backstage goings on in the WWE. I follow it mostly through kayfabe and what happens on screen. Which leads me to a question... Are there official statements either from The Undertaker himself or backstage sources stating just how beat up and broken down he is? The few appearances he puts in nowdays plus the way he went out after the Wrestlemania match make it obvious that he is not what he once was but to all those suggesting he is a match away from being disabled are those claims based on actual known facts or just judgments/opinions made from what we have seen from Mark over the last couple of years?

I ask only as a fan of The Undertaker and one who still holds hope that he has a few good storylines left in him yet.

On the subject of storylines, The Undertaker and Triple H... the recent photo of The Undertaker posted on here in which he seems to have shaved off all his hair made me think what if CM Punk where to come back with a new, stronger version of the Straight Edge Society to go up against a Triple H faction and this time have The Undertaker be apart of it. It could be an even more sinister darker version of the SES..one on which crucifies those who do not follow the ethos of the group (Pretty much certain the whole hanging sombody up on a cross thing would not get through the door in todays Era but a diluted alternative could work).