HBK pissed at Cena

[BRandonkin]

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HBK Upset With John Cena Over WrestleMania Match
04/03/2007 by Ryan Clark

Dave Meltzer appeared on the Live Audio Wrestling radio show on Sunday night after WrestleMania and he said that Shawn Michaels was extremely upset and unhappy with his match against John Cena. When he got backstage, he was screaming about how terrible he thought it was.

After the match had concluded, there was a spot where HBK abruptly walked away from a Cena handshake attempt which was not scripted, as they were supposed to shake hands. Michaels was red hot at Cena for not selling his leg that he spent the first few minutes of the match working on. Also, several of the agents were unhappy with Cena for that as well. In fact, you could see during the match that HBK got in Cena's face and started cutting a shoot promo on him, which is why the audio went out for a few seconds and was replaced with crowd noise."

I did not see the match. How was it. And do you think with the Agents being mad and excetra, that it might lead to a Cena depush

 

[Mr. Showtime]

i watched it a hundered times, and i can see why michaels and some of the agents may be upset over the fact that cena didn't sell the knee, but it wont lead to a de-push as john cena and mr. mcmahon are reportedly joined at the hip, not to mention the fact that he's the wwe champion.

 

[Shocky]

I dunno, HBK has some stroke. That match was just a pitiful mainevent. Cena made HBK look bad and Michaels knew it after the match. The same reason with Taker getting Batista out of the way. Big Dave botched spot after spot.

We're beginning to see the power struggle between the vets and the new guys. The veterans are willing to do the J.O.B., but they are not going to be made too look bad in the process. HBK has every right to be pissed. Cena just sucks, plain and simple.

 

[kennyg9]

I agree HBK has some stroke but it is the "biggest draw" in Cena. This could get real interesting. I think HBK has no problem jobbing as he has done before but if he is gonna look bad in the process i 100% agree with him for being pissed. Its good that guys like HBK and Taker are willing to J.O.B. and build up the future of the business but if the future is gonna perform like that then i don't blame them for being pissed. I really wonder if this is all Vince's doing or what. Ultimately either Cena is gonna pick it up or they need to put the title on someone else and maybe build up an injury angle for Cena to be off camera for maybe a month to work on in ring ability. That can help him regain popularity and hopefully in ring ability. But WM23 that was not a good match at all, HBK tried his best but its hard when you have to pull someone elses weight as well

 

[X]

Not true kennyg, I'm as big a HBK fan as possible, but he does play a lot of politics backstage. He absolutely refused to job to alot of people in his career, including Vader and Mr. Perfect among others. He even refused to job to Austin at WM14 until Undertaker talked some sense into him.

I'm glad HBK is pissed at Cena, I would be too. I'm glad when they were supposed to do the old good match handshake he slapped his hand away and walked off. Cena doesn't deserve a handshake from HBK let alone a win over him.

Has anyone heard any reports of fans rioting after the match? I definately would of.

 

[A.J.]

I'm glad HBK is pissed at Cena, I would be too. I'm glad when they were supposed to do the old good match handshake he slapped his hand away and walked off. Cena doesn't deserve a handshake from HBK let alone a win over him.

Has anyone heard any reports of fans rioting after the match? I definately would of.

Yeah i have heard of the rioting after the math but it was like nothing big though.

Back on to HBK being pissed off at Cena i agree he should be. He botch the finish by not selling the leg that HBK worked on the whole match. With HBK not shaking his hand i'm so gald he didnt even though he was supposed to i mean dammit Cena should have sold the leg and HBK would have least respected him somewhat by shaking his hand maybe.

Now like what many other have said HBk doesn't job to anyone i mean just like xfearbefore said there has been times in the past Cena did not want to job heel even at WM21 HBK at the last minute decided to job to Angle.

Now i agree with some here in as i think were beginning to see a change as the vets are now jobbing to the younger guys. I mean undertaker and HBK will job when they see fit, but they want to make sure that the younger guys do the job right and so they look good in the process. I mean that why taker kicked Batista ass out of the ring and HBK didn't shake Cena's hand.

Cena maybe the draw that Vince sees that makes money but damnit HBK and Taker shoudl be respect and they have much and i mean much pull backstage. He maybe the one pulling in money they see but if locker roomleaders like HBK and Taker take a stand against a Cena and Batista then well VKM will have to look at it. And we all know HHH wont do shit as he will job basically to anyone that he made like Batista and Cena just because he knows he owns him.

Hopefully we see more of this but i doubt as i bet that monday or after WM23 Vince had a meet9ing between teh two butwho knows

 

[Shocky]

I think he means the new HBK Xfear. Ever since his return in 2002 he is willing to do the J.O.B. to people. Of course early in his career, the Kliq era, he ran the show. Some say the Taker story isn't real. It's real because of this, it was WM 14, Hall and Nash were long gone. Taker doesnt take shit from anyone, including Kliqers. HBK might not have listened, but that broken back that he received from the deadmna probably put his life in percpective.

HBK is willing to job now, just like taker is. I've said it in other threads, they'll J.O.B., but they aren't going to look like idiots doing it either.

I don't think Vince is having a meeting with anyone. The last thing he wants to do is piss off his two franchise guys. If he had a sour Taker and Michaels working for him, that's bad news. If he pisses his vets off, he loses the locker room, because those two are the one the guys respect, not McMahon.

on a side note, what if Taker and HBK got pissed off so much they jumped to TNA, could you say something bigger then the Outsiders ever were? Never happened, but one can dream.

 

[EP Punk]

Seriously, this just proves everything everyone has ever said about Cena being a bitch. If I was HBK, I would have slapped the taste out of Cena's mouth. Common sense tells you to sell an injury that has been played up all match long, and not to mention common courtesy to the first-ballot HOF'er that is putting you over. He made HBK look like shit in that match, and should be stripped of his title for the complete lack of professionalism he showed. And as far as HBK and Taker playing politics...good for them, they've earned the right.

 

[jackhammer_27]

Let me start by saying that while I'm not a Cena mark, I think alot of people are too hard on Cena. It really isn't his fault that the powers that be force him down our throats every week. He is good on the mic, and despite his limited move set, he works hard when he steps into the ring. As far as him always getting his butt kicked and then somehow winning the match, I think it's pretty clear that it is supposed to be part of his gimmick. That being said, he did do a terrible job selling the leg. I actually remarked to my friends that his leg just magically got better, because for a while he did sell it. HBK should have been irate over this, but to say he made HBK look bad is ridiculous. It was almost a Shawn Michaels squash match from start to finish and I thought HBK looked pretty good. And for what it's worth, I was very impressed with Batista's work with Taker.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

awwwww poor hbk, the match didnt go how he wanted to and he looked bad *wipe a tear from my eye* WUTEVER! i could see he looked frustrated on raw, but then he started to fling the tag team titles around, i saw him kick it over to the side.. he treated the belt with no respect. he's suppose to be a professional, he should know he cant change what happened.

 

[chesswiz77]

I thought both World Title matches were great! Taker and HBK really brought out good performances from Batista and Cena.

I did notice Cena wasn't selling the leg that HBK worked on during the match. Whether or not it was on purpose, I don't know. It's not as though it would be the first time we've seen a wrestler in WWE forget to sell during the match. I don't see why Michaels and the agents are that upset? The match, at least on t.v., came off great.

I can't wait for the rematch at Backlash. Hopefully HBK, and Cena can get on the same page by then, b/c they have good in-ring chemistry.


P.S. I am a fan of both wrestlers, but I think HBK needs to win at Backlash. It's time Cena takes a break from holding the Title.

 

[PortuguesePrince]

Seriously, this just proves everything everyone has ever said about Cena being a bitch. If I was HBK, I would have slapped the taste out of Cena's mouth. Common sense tells you to sell an injury that has been played up all match long, and not to mention common courtesy to the first-ballot HOF'er that is putting you over. He made HBK look like shit in that match, and should be stripped of his title for the complete lack of professionalism he showed. And as far as HBK and Taker playing politics...good for them, they've earned the right.

I agree with you totally FinalRWFChamp he is McMahons boytoy and his personal puppet as they were seen talking a lot prior to WM months ago! He was supposed to lose following him selling his injury leg and he fucked up
so tell me about it! John Cena is too busy worshipping McMahon now and back then it was HBK so its vice versa! Honestly I would have loved to see HBK win and Underfaker lose instead of vice versa ! both titles should have h changed hands not only did he make HBK look bad he made HHH feel bad last year also !
That really sucks once again McMoron has suckered all our money on this crappy ppv!
It won t be long before titles change hands on Backlash when Batista retains his title and HBK captures his last title !!

 

[EP Punk]

I still say HBK has every reason to be pissed. When my girlfriend, who doesn't even really like wrestling...notices Cena is doing a horrible selling job with his knee, it is pretty clear it was intentional. As far as HBK treating the tg belt with disrespect...I think old vKM did a good enough job of that himself by ensuring they would not be defended at 'Mania, as well as making the entire division on Raw at least a joke. Cena is a punk, plain and simple, and HBK gave him all the respect he deserved..ZERO! Kinda makes you wonder how much of HBK eliminating Cena from the battle royal was scripted and how much had the agents screaming WTF?

 

[PortuguesePrince]

i watched it a hundered times, and i can see why michaels and some of the agents may be upset over the fact that cena didn't sell the knee, but it wont lead to a de-push as john cena and mr. mcmahon are reportedly joined at the hip, not to mention the fact that he's the wwe champion.

McMoron has JohN Cena below the hip if you know what I mean he is his personal gay boy toy and McMahon suceeded in making us wrestling fans foolish and suckered all our money once again for a crappy ppv but rest assured Batista will get his title back coz that was the worst match I seen honestly I would have rather see HBK win the title than see Batista lose to Underfaker so disappointing but by BackLash both titles will change hands!

 

[xDJx]

Yeah since cena is mcmahons boy toy thats the only reason why he still has that stupid lookin gay ass title and also his ring entrance yesterday was LAME also he should of lost its HBK time i'm glad that Taker did win but i'm feelin a rematch at backlash could happen

 

[Jewelybug]

I was at wrestlemania, and I think Cena sold the leg for awhile... but i noticed he stopped doing it after about 10 minutes. You could see where he was trying to "shake it off". As far as Cena making HBK look bad... that is rediculous. I thought the match was really good, I thought HBK was acting like a cocky jerk, but I do agree Cena should have sold the leg through the match, not just for 5 minutes.

 

[ErkBono23]

awwwww poor hbk, the match didnt go how he wanted to and he looked bad *wipe a tear from my eye* WUTEVER! i could see he looked frustrated on raw, but then he started to fling the tag team titles around, i saw him kick it over to the side.. he treated the belt with no respect. he's suppose to be a professional, he should know he cant change what happened.

he doesnt need to treat the tag titles with respect..if anything him flinging and kicking the tag titles shows he could care less about the tag titles and everything about the wwe title...i think he has already earned his right to the word professional...he understands he cant change what happened..he knew how his match with cena was going to end long before it started..the fact is that cena was getting his leg stomped and tortured throughout the match THAT IS SOMETHING YOU SELL...here comes cena acting like he just got a shot of adrenaline and completely forgets he was suppose to sell his leg injury...it is disrespectful..disrespectful to HBK...disrespectful for a match that headlines wrestlemania...they discussed something similar to this when steve-o would not sell umaga's injury...when not selling an injury it is seen as a sign of disrespect....

 

[austinlee87]

As a huge Shawn Michaels fan, I personally believe that HBK deserved to hold the championship again. I don't blame him one bit for being pissed off at Cena. Cena has held the belt for 20 of the last 24 months, it's time for a change. John Cena sucks...thats all there is to it!

 

[showtyme27]

You know you guys are talking like you're experts at what make's an good match and what doesn't but their is NO right way to do an match, for every match I love their is someone out their who couldn't stand that match, my point is you either like it or you don't, there's no right or wrong answer just your personal opinion. I personally didn't have a problem with the match other than the fact that UT vs Batista should have been the Main Event, I personally thought WM23 was a pretty good PPV except for an bad arrangment of the matches, but again this is only my opinion, HBK and Cena put on an okay match not up to HBK's usual WM standard but still passable but that could be blamed on either man as neither really did anything that made me "Mark out" so IMO you either like it or you don't.

 

[kennyg9]

Yes i meant present day HBK wil Job, past HBK prior to back injury i agree would not job. I think HBK willingness to job to Cena at WM is the ultimate sign of respect for the business and Cena. HBK is obvioulsy an all time legend and putting Cena over will help his legacy. BUT you have to produce a solid match John and he did not hold up his end of it. HBK did what he could do and on the biggest stage for that crap to happen HBK has a right ot be pissed and i think that is the reason HBK did not slap Cena because HBK understands that Wrestlemania is the show of shows for the year. Cuase HBK has class.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

he doesnt need to treat the tag titles with respect..if anything him flinging and kicking the tag titles shows he could care less about the tag titles and everything about the wwe title...i think he has already earned his right to the word professional...he understands he cant change what happened..he knew how his match with cena was going to end long before it started..the fact is that cena was getting his leg stomped and tortured throughout the match THAT IS SOMETHING YOU SELL...here comes cena acting like he just got a shot of adrenaline and completely forgets he was suppose to sell his leg injury...it is disrespectful..disrespectful to HBK...disrespectful for a match that headlines wrestlemania...they discussed something similar to this when steve-o would not sell umaga's injury...when not selling an injury it is seen as a sign of disrespect....

thats fine hbk got mad at cena for not selling the injury. but c'mon look at the teams that have held the tag titles (hart foundation, british bulldogs, demolition,lod,hardyz,edge/christian,dudleyz and way more) theres no reason for him to disrespect the belts.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

and for all you guys sayin the underTaker shouldnt have won..and that he's a pot belly and he cant wrestle... you guys must be like 15-18 yrs old, cuz he was the man back in the day, he still is one of the most respected wrestlers and for being in the wwe for 15 years and only having about 4 titles runs(none of which were for too long), this man deserves to be champ..PERIOD

this is a guy like ric flair, even if he cant move around to well now, the amount he has given to the business, he deserves to be there as long as he wants.

 

[Kasey]

This is precisely along the lines of what I'd figure would happen. The old timers don't always mind doing the job to the youngsters, but guys like Taker and HBK that have worked some damn fine matches in their careers (and not just with each other) hate having to hand the ball off to a complete fluke that doesn't have the in-ring strength to carry a company (hence Batista losing the strap and not even being in the main event). HBK has every right to be pissed off. EVERYONE that watches wrestling knows about Wrestlemania and it doesn't matter how many rematches they have that go well, Wrestlemania is what everyone remembers. If the match sucks at the biggest event of the year (and the biggest in the industry itself) and you have to take part in it, knowing full well that there are a load of other guys in the company that could put on a better show with you, why would you show respect to that guy? Cena's no-sell was prototypical because he does not have the vocabulary or smarts to navigate a thirty minute encounter on his own. That's why they saddled him with Michaels. Cena just boned up and forgot the psychology of a lengthy match. He's only used to taking baby-steps in the ring. This is just what happens when they expect him to run when he hasn't even learned to walk properly. It's a prime result of WWE's "all flash, no substance" style these days. Everyone can thank Johnny Ace for finding all of this wonderful "talent."

 

[Moon Knight]

This is precisely along the lines of what I'd figure would happen. The old timers don't always mind doing the job to the youngsters, but guys like Taker and HBK that have worked some damn fine matches in their careers (and not just with each other) hate having to hand the ball off to a complete fluke that doesn't have the in-ring strength to carry a company (hence Batista losing the strap and not even being in the main event). HBK has every right to be pissed off. EVERYONE that watches wrestling knows about Wrestlemania and it doesn't matter how many rematches they have that go well, Wrestlemania is what everyone remembers. If the match sucks at the biggest event of the year (and the biggest in the industry itself) and you have to take part in it, knowing full well that there are a load of other guys in the company that could put on a better show with you, why would you show respect to that guy? Cena's no-sell was prototypical because he does not have the vocabulary or smarts to navigate a thirty minute encounter on his own. That's why they saddled him with Michaels. Cena just boned up and forgot the psychology of a lengthy match. He's only used to taking baby-steps in the ring. This is just what happens when they expect him to run when he hasn't even learned to walk properly. It's a prime result of WWE's "all flash, no substance" style these days. Everyone can thank Johnny Ace for finding all of this wonderful "talent."

I didn't see mania this year, so I can't backup that the match sucked. But it wouldn't shock me if it did. I have known for months or even years that Cena had the in ring talent of a 7 year old and had no business working a match with HBK. HBK is the best maineventer in history, but even he couldn't make a loser like Cena look good. Based on what I have heard HBK has every right to be mad, HBK doesn't mind losing to young guys, but NOBODY wants to be made to look like a no talent jackass while doing it. Mania looked ok, but Cena winning ruined what looked like an ok night. Cena should have been able to sell HBK better.

Will this lead to a depush? I doubt it, the only thing Vince loves is money and as long as Cena rakes it in he will be up there. We don't have to like it, but thats the way it is. HBK will get a rematch, maybe we will get lucky and Vince will give HBK the belt and move him on to a fued with Edge going into summerslam.

 

[thelcon21]

I agree with Shawn the effort put in that match by Cena is a disgrace to everyone who ordered that PPV. How does the WWE end a Wrestlemania like that? If they were going to have Cena win that match they should of switched it with the Undertaker match. At least we all would of had a better feeling at the end of the PPV. How does the WWE have Cena keep the title when 90% of the crowd is booing him? When are they going to learn that we don't want to see him and throwing him in our face is just going to make us hate him even more. Maybe Vince should read things on this board and he will get a taste of what we all really think of John Cena. I think I rather of had HBK get DQed then have Cena win by making him tap.