Glass Ass: The OFFICIAL JGlass Thread

[justinsayne]

Dude, you have no idea how much I suck at Black Ops. I've decided if I'm ever playing that game I'm running Crossbow, knife, and a throwing axe and just have fun with those.

I hate the asshole snipers, & the guys so use drones, other than that I'm having a blast despite getting slaughtered. Hopefully I'll be able to get into some matches with the Merkster soon.

 

[JGlass]

This is just me, but I feel like any alliance that involves the Orcs would take work, but wouldn't be impossible. They aren't outwardly hostile, but they aren't immediately accepting of outsiders. They have their strongholds in Skyrim, but unless you play as an Orc, you aren't allowed to enter right away without hostility. You have to complete a quest to do so. I think the Orcs and Nords share that love of battle and have a mutual respect for each other as prominent warrior races, but I wouldn't call them allies. There is almost always one Orc in larger groups of bandits so I would think that when they want to accomplish something they are willing to work with others, even if the goal is killing innocent travelers. In Oblivion they were more integrated with the other races, there was even that one Orc who was a member of the Assassin's guild. He was completely out of place as a huge mother fucker with heavy armor and a war hammer in a group of stealthy assassins and murderers, but it was good for comedy.

Hey man, there's an Orc in the Mage's College in Skyrim. I reckon a member of a race known for ruthless warriors sitting around in a library is way more out of place than a war hammer wielding assassin.

The Orcs are not nearly as standoffish as they make themselves out to be. Sure, the Orc strongholds rarely welcome non-Orcs inside, but there are prominent Orcs in just about any given city. The blacksmith in Markarth is an Orc, the guy who runs the lumber mill outside of Solitude is an Orc, and one of the main members of the Dawnguard is an Orc. They might not have the manners and courtesy that humans and other elves do (Orcs are technically elves), but they can adapt to get along with non-Orcs.

Also is it just me, or does anyone else get the feeling that while Orcs are great foot soldiers, they wouldn't make good leaders?

I don't know about that. Orc Chieftains are responsible for the wellbeing of their entire stronghold, so they're no stranger to responsibility. They're strong warriors, and clearly they are decent enough diplomats given the fact that they have strongholds in many countries in Tamriel, and nobody seems to bother them.

And yeah, Ulfric would kick any non Nord race out as quickly as he could.

I wouldn't go that far, but they certainly wouldn't be entitled to the same rights as Nords.

I've been debating whether I want to go back and replay Morrowind or just read up on the cannon storyline. It has been so long since I played I don't recall many of the events.

I've heard some people say Morrowind is their favorite game. Maybe that was you?

I would imagine that should the Stormcloaks win in Skyrim, the subsequent Thalmor invasion of mainland Tamriel would be more than enough to bring the Redguards into the war; the Bretons too but as Thalmor allies, perhaps the Forsworn as well but I see them being more likely on no one's side apart from their own - Basque like.

What do the Thalmor have to offer Bretons? Bretons are men, and the main pillar of the Thalmor doctrine is that elf is superior to man.

As for the Argonians/Thalmor, I may have been conflating two seperate conflicts there but any force that can repel the Daedra, which I think the Argonians managed alone during the Oblivion Crisis, could provide a substantial threat/ally to either side - the Thalmor could easily send the Khajit against them as a distraction. What Morrowind does might be the key.

The Khajit would be nothing more than a pawn. The Khajit are scattered and weak, and while they are certainly capable warriors I reckon they wouldn't last long in Black Marsh where the cats would struggle in the swampy terrain, not to mention that Argonians will be aided by The Hist.

And what is the condition of Morrowind? Judging by what's going on in Skyrim I always figured it was still in a sorry state from the eruption of Red Mountain.

Dude, you have no idea how much I suck at Black Ops. I've decided if I'm ever playing that game I'm running Crossbow, knife, and a throwing axe and just have fun with those.

Dude, you're ridiculously good at video games. Shut up.

So, Daniel Bryan and John Cena, brothers-in-law?

Spoiler

How bizarre would that be? Especially with them both "being with" AJ in kayfabe and all.

That must have been taken before the Bellas were fired, no? Either way, that would be awesome. I can't wait until Cena and Bryan get a chance to feud. People were saying Bryan/Punk would be MOTY candidates, but Cena/Bryan is where the real story is.

That was been pushed back a couple of times, it is such a big project I worry it could end up scrapped.

I don't think they have released anything in terms of story, but I have heard the Molag Bal rumor. I've also heard a rumor that the story isn't going to be cannon. I doubt that ends up being true though.

I've seen pictures of the game, and I'd be surprised if they scrapped the idea after putting so much effort into it.

So it's Mrs. Soda's birthday today and I've got her one of those new super slim PS3s and Skyrim to go with it because she says it looks "Lord-of-the-Ringsy".

Is it wrong to expect much tackle slapping over the festive season?

That depends: what's tackle slapping? Is that English code for sex?

 

[Richard Blonoff]

Hey man, there's an Orc in the Mage's College in Skyrim. I reckon a member of a race known for ruthless warriors sitting around in a library is way more out of place than a war hammer wielding assassin.

The Orcs are not nearly as standoffish as they make themselves out to be. Sure, the Orc strongholds rarely welcome non-Orcs inside, but there are prominent Orcs in just about any given city. The blacksmith in Markarth is an Orc, the guy who runs the lumber mill outside of Solitude is an Orc, and one of the main members of the Dawnguard is an Orc. They might not have the manners and courtesy that humans and other elves do (Orcs are technically elves), but they can adapt to get along with non-Orcs.

I've never played as an Orc in any of the Elder Scrolls games. Maybe I should put that on my list.

I have noticed that there are some people, usually among the elite of places like Solitude, that refer to Orcs as filthy beasts, but overall there doesn't seen to be much hatred for them, considering they aren't the best looking race around.

I've heard some people say Morrowind is their favorite game. Maybe that was you?

I believe that was one of our English brethren. It has been so long since I played that I don't remember much of it.

I've seen pictures of the game, and I'd be surprised if they scrapped the idea after putting so much effort into it.

They scrapped a Fallout MMO last year. Personally I think Fallout would work better for an MMO than Elder Scrolls would.

That depends: what's tackle slapping? Is that English code for sex?

That is what the Jets do instead of actually playing.

 

[Remix]

What do the Thalmor have to offer Bretons? Bretons are men, and the main pillar of the Thalmor doctrine is that elf is superior to man.

If the Bretons buddy up with anyone, it'll be the Redguards. The Redguards are pretty much the only people to fight off the Thalmor/Aldmeri Dominion with any degree of success and they seem to get along well enough to tear down Orsinum... Twice, so there is a president for it And besides, no matter who wins the Skyrim civil war, it's getting conquered by the AD, which is bad for them.

I can't see Thalmor policies taking kindly to the part mer, part man background of the Bretons either. With Thalmor lands on their borders, Bretons not being suited for war, the Empire in tatters and High Rock isolated from it regardless, an alliance with the Redguards is very beneficial. Also, if The Dominion gets to revive Elder Scrolls Online Factions an alliance from the second era, why not the Dagerfall Covenant too (possibly without the Orcs though)?

The Khajit would be nothing more than a pawn. The Khajit are scattered and weak, and while they are certainly capable warriors I reckon they wouldn't last long in Black Marsh where the cats would struggle in the swampy terrain, not to mention that Argonians will be aided by The Hist.

The Khajits are eventually going to turn on the elves or get wiped out before they get the idea. If they last long enough they'll either find out that the Tlalmor had nothing to do with the moons' returning, or they were but they're only an illusion. Either would make them pissed enough to leave their alliance, since that's their only reason for joining. If not... well I doubt the High/wood elves see them as their equals anyway. I'm sure a massive suicide mission into swamps would fit into their plans quite nicely. Weakens them enough that they're too weak to object to elves moving in, taking their land and enslaving them and gets rid of a distinctly non-elvish race.

And what is the condition of Morrowind? Judging by what's going on in Skyrim I always figured it was still in a sorry state from the eruption of Red Mountain.

I understand that Vvardenfell (the biggest bit of Morrowind) is no more, and they're currently ruled by a race that they enslaved for years. So probably not too good. But Morrowind will probably be a priority for the Thalmor since it's elven land ruled by lizards. That probably seems very wrong to them.

 

[GI Cake]

 

[Nate DaMac]

Conker's Bad Fur Day.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Rattlesnake debating Barbosa is like a toddler trying to debate a Rhodes Scholar.

Whoa-Oh?!?

That was from like a year ago. I'm high, I laughed.

 

[GI Cake]

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=195143

How did Mack Swagger not get more votes that year? He's a shoe in for this year though, right?

 

[Nate DaMac]

He'll get more votes this year. There were only a few of us aware of him at this point last year.

 

[Барбоса]

What do the Thalmor have to offer Bretons? Bretons are men, and the main pillar of the Thalmor doctrine is that elf is superior to man.

I could see the Bretons being manipulated by the Thalmor to join their attack with promises regarding the future of the Reach.

The Khajit would be nothing more than a pawn. The Khajit are scattered and weak, and while they are certainly capable warriors I reckon they wouldn't last long in Black Marsh where the cats would struggle in the swampy terrain, not to mention that Argonians will be aided by The Hist.

Pawn is right and their religiously based devotion to the Thalmor could easily see them launch an idiotic but stalling offensive on Black Marsh, preventing Argonian forces from aiding whatever anti-Thalmor forces are in the field or even interfering in Morrowind.

And what is the condition of Morrowind? Judging by what's going on in Skyrim I always figured it was still in a sorry state from the eruption of Red Mountain.

In a word, bad which makes it a prime target for manipulation and exploitation.

 

[Diet Soda]

That depends: what's tackle slapping? Is that English code for sex?

All sorts of boisterous shenanigans.

 

[JGlass]

I've never played as an Orc in any of the Elder Scrolls games. Maybe I should put that on my list.

I don't know about the other games, but in Skyrim they are the only race that doesn't benefit from having a passive effect like the Nord's cold resistance, Altmer's magika bonus, etc. Their special skill is pretty useful, though, as it allows you to just deal all sorts of damage without taking any. Then again, I never found combat to be all that difficult with barbarian type characters.

I have noticed that there are some people, usually among the elite of places like Solitude, that refer to Orcs as filthy beasts, but overall there doesn't seen to be much hatred for them, considering they aren't the best looking race around.

Yeah, but they'd also refer to Khajit as filthy cats and Argonians as filthy lizards. Amongst racists, Orcs are just as bad as any other race, but everyone else is fine with them.

I believe that was one of our English brethren. It has been so long since I played that I don't remember much of it.

Ah I think you're right, I kind of remember Shotaro saying that.

They scrapped a Fallout MMO last year. Personally I think Fallout would work better for an MMO than Elder Scrolls would.

It might have worked better, but Elder Scrolls is the more popular series, AKA the more profitable game.

That is what the Jets do instead of actually playing.

Wrong. That would involve tackling someone.

If the Bretons buddy up with anyone, it'll be the Redguards. The Redguards are pretty much the only people to fight off the Thalmor/Aldmeri Dominion with any degree of success and they seem to get along well enough to tear down Orsinum... Twice, so there is a president for it And besides, no matter who wins the Skyrim civil war, it's getting conquered by the AD, which is bad for them.

But the Redguards would also likely team up with the Nords. Whether the AD conquers Skyrim or not (I don't see how they could as it would involve them moving all their troops into the middle of the continent, and I doubt the Redguards or Imperials are going to take to kindly to a massive Thalmor army making their way through their land), there will still be plenty of Nords chomping at the bits to fight, and you can't discount the Nord's battlefield prowess.

I can't see Thalmor policies taking kindly to the part mer, part man background of the Bretons either. With Thalmor lands on their borders, Bretons not being suited for war, the Empire in tatters and High Rock isolated from it regardless, an alliance with the Redguards is very beneficial. Also, if The Dominion gets to revive Elder Scrolls Online Factions an alliance from the second era, why not the Dagerfall Covenant too (possibly without the Orcs though)?

Well there is still strong evidence that the AD is alive and well in Skyrim, like the fact the Thalmor call themselves the AD and are all over the place. A little research shows that the Khajit are still loyal to the Thalmor for supposedly bringing the moons back. The only question is if the wood elves are still loyal to the AD. The wood elves are surprisingly difficult to research, so I'm not sure if they are still part of the AD.

The Khajits are eventually going to turn on the elves or get wiped out before they get the idea. If they last long enough they'll either find out that the Tlalmor had nothing to do with the moons' returning, or they were but they're only an illusion. Either would make them pissed enough to leave their alliance, since that's their only reason for joining. If not... well I doubt the High/wood elves see them as their equals anyway. I'm sure a massive suicide mission into swamps would fit into their plans quite nicely. Weakens them enough that they're too weak to object to elves moving in, taking their land and enslaving them and gets rid of a distinctly non-elvish race.

Even if they turned on the elves, how much of a difference would that make? The Khajit are scattered and weak across Elswyr, and even more scattered across the provinces of Tamriel. Their only hope for survival as a race is to join the ranks of another army (possibly the Redguards) and hope that enough of them survive the war that they can repopulate.

I understand that Vvardenfell (the biggest bit of Morrowind) is no more, and they're currently ruled by a race that they enslaved for years. So probably not too good. But Morrowind will probably be a priority for the Thalmor since it's elven land ruled by lizards. That probably seems very wrong to them.

They'll have to fight their way across all of Tamriel to get there, though, since Sommerset Isles lies to the West, and I can't imagine that sailing all the way around Tamriel is easy, safe, or even plausible considering they'll almost certainly be detected.

I could see the Bretons being manipulated by the Thalmor to join their attack with promises regarding the future of the Reach.

The Thalmor want to take over all of Tamriel and destroy mankind, and they don't worry much about keeping that a secret. I think the Bretons would be very wary of any type of deal the Thalmor attempt to give them.

Pawn is right and their religiously based devotion to the Thalmor could easily see them launch an idiotic but stalling offensive on Black Marsh, preventing Argonian forces from aiding whatever anti-Thalmor forces are in the field or even interfering in Morrowind.

Depending when the next Elder Scrolls game takes place, I wouldn't be surprised if we get to see the last hurrah of the Khajit, or if the Khajit are absent altogether.

In a word, bad which makes it a prime target for manipulation and exploitation.

Again, I'm not convinced the Thalmor can get there, or if the Dunmer are interested in helping the Thalmor considering the dark evles are a bunch of Daedra worshiping undesirables and they know that those high elves think very poorly of them.

All sorts of boisterous shenanigans.

Then no, because Skyrim is an engrossing game and your wife may totally forget about your existence when she plays. Sorry pal.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

My Little Pony just did the training montage from Empire.

 

[Барбоса]

I think the Thalmor are perfectly capable of manipulating the Breton dislike of the Nords, Khajit religious beliefs and Morrowind destruction for their own ends. Their biggest threat is a coalition of peoples either under the Imperial or an anti-Thalmor banner, hence their manipulation of Ulfric and Skyrim nationalism.

Keeping the more established national groups like the Redguards and the Argonians neutral/distracted would be a big concern for them. With the Argonians having taken large parts of Morrowind during the 4th Era, that could give the Thalmor something to bridge the gap to the Dunmer over.

I would agree that the Khajit may well be gone by the next game either through rebellion against the Thalmor or being manipulated into a suicide attack on the Argonians. I dare say the Empire might be gone as a state too - perhaps rebuilding it could be a main quest?

 

[Remix]

But the Redguards would also likely team up with the Nords. Whether the AD conquers Skyrim or not (I don't see how they could as it would involve them moving all their troops into the middle of the continent, and I doubt the Redguards or Imperials are going to take to kindly to a massive Thalmor army making their way through their land), there will still be plenty of Nords chomping at the bits to fight, and you can't discount the Nord's battlefield prowess.

The Redguards are easily bypassed. Simply don't go through Hammerfell. As for how the Imperials would stop the conquest of Skyrim, they're not really in any position to, no matter who wins the war of independence. The White-Gold Concordat allows the Aldmeri Dominion free reign to pass through Imperial territory, and they're not going to risk restarting a war unless it's obvious that they're walking an army through. Since the Thalmor have had 26 years (the time from the end of the Great war to the Dragon Crisis, which while unanticipated is convenient) to prepare for the invasion of Skyrim. The fact that there are armed Thalmor agents wondering around Skyrim means that Imperials aren't exactly stopping them from slowly building up a force in the area. Also, Altmer are powerful mages. We know from Morrowind that mages can teleport people from place to place (you could teleport between mages' guilds in this way). They could bypass both by doing that.

As for the Nords being powerful warriors, yes they are, and doubtless a great deal will cast their lot with a hypothetical Breton/Redguard alliance but after having their land pillaged by Dragons and a bloody war of independence they're not going to be strong enough to stop AD from taking a lot of their land if they have been preparing to do so.

Well there is still strong evidence that the AD is alive and well in Skyrim, like the fact the Thalmor call themselves the AD and are all over the place. A little research shows that the Khajit are still loyal to the Thalmor for supposedly bringing the moons back. The only question is if the wood elves are still loyal to the AD. The wood elves are surprisingly difficult to research, so I'm not sure if they are still part of the AD.

Well The Great War book in Skyrim pretty much tells the story. There was a coup in Valenwood, the Thalmor forces won and that was the start of the second Aldmeri Dominion.

Even if they turned on the elves, how much of a difference would that make? The Khajit are scattered and weak across Elswyr, and even more scattered across the provinces of Tamriel. Their only hope for survival as a race is to join the ranks of another army (possibly the Redguards) and hope that enough of them survive the war that they can repopulate.

However, weak and few they may be, but they'd be a real nuisance if left unchecked. They strike me as the sort of race that's very well suited for guerilla warfare, which would be a real pain in the backside of the Dominion. Especially if open warfare has broken out. Having to devote forces to fighting Argonia, the Redguard/Breton alliance and stopping Khajits from setting fires in Valenwood would be a stretch.

They'll have to fight their way across all of Tamriel to get there, though, since Sommerset Isles lies to the West, and I can't imagine that sailing all the way around Tamriel is easy, safe, or even plausible considering they'll almost certainly be detected.

Working on my theory that Skyrim gets conquered, it's actually not as far away. It is a logistical nightmare, to be sure but if the Dumner populations in Skyrim and Morrowind are sympathetic to the Aldmeri Dominion they may be able to take a good amount of land without too many losses.

The Thalmor want to take over all of Tamriel and destroy mankind, and they don't worry much about keeping that a secret. I think the Bretons would be very wary of any type of deal the Thalmor attempt to give them.

Yeah, they strike me as a smart bunch.

Again, I'm not convinced the Thalmor can get there, or if the Dunmer are interested in helping the Thalmor considering the dark evles are a bunch of Daedra worshiping undesirables and they know that those high elves think very poorly of them.

In the early stages I think the both will take any allies they can use. For the Dunmer, better an alliance with Altmer how look down on them than the fucking Argonians. For the Aldmeri Dominion, better that Morrowind is ruled by mer, no matter who they worship than the fucking Argonians. Ethnic cleansing comes later.

 

[nightmare]

Show up here for my friends party & all they have is Miller Light and Boones Farm. What the hell?


Someone fly down here and help me finish this gigantic bottle of Jagermeister. No 1 at this birthday party is kickass enough to drink it.

 

[ScreaminNormanSmiley]

You are complaining about alcohol choices and you are drinking Jager? I don't get it.

 

[JGlass]

My grandpa's 90th birthday party was a pretty good time. Everyone behaved, I had fun hanging out with some family I don't see very often, and I dominated at air hockey.

My little cousin also has a kick ass Lego collection, including a working Lego train set... so naturally we lined both sides of the track with his Lego people and made the train go plowing through them. It wound up turning into a big ordeal as I wanted to attach a camera to the front of the train, and we took about 8 videos of these Lego people being massacred by train. It got to the point where almost the entire party was involved in the production. There might be a directing gig in my future judging by the job I did tonight.

Oh, and I was being an asshole and looking at threads I made a year ago, and came across a "JGlass Shoots on Everything" thread. Most of it is just silly, but I did come across this post.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showpost.php?p=3060330&postcount=264

He was right.

I think the Thalmor are perfectly capable of manipulating the Breton dislike of the Nords, Khajit religious beliefs and Morrowind destruction for their own ends. Their biggest threat is a coalition of peoples either under the Imperial or an anti-Thalmor banner, hence their manipulation of Ulfric and Skyrim nationalism.

I still think the Bretons realize that if they defeat the Nords the Thalmor would turn on them in a heartbeat. I also don't see them being that effective in Morrowind. They could probably swoop in and take power with force, but they won't be winning any hearts and minds over there. I do, however, agree that the Khajit would be very easily manipulated. Poor cats.

Keeping the more established national groups like the Redguards and the Argonians neutral/distracted would be a big concern for them. With the Argonians having taken large parts of Morrowind during the 4th Era, that could give the Thalmor something to bridge the gap to the Dunmer over.

What are relations like between Argonians and Dunmer? I wasn't aware that there was hostility between the two groups. I suppose pitting those two groups against each other wouldn't be too hard in that case, but given their history, I can't see the Redguards being manipulated by the Thalmor.

I would agree that the Khajit may well be gone by the next game either through rebellion against the Thalmor or being manipulated into a suicide attack on the Argonians. I dare say the Empire might be gone as a state too - perhaps rebuilding it could be a main quest?

That would be pretty interesting, if your character is responsible for helping recreate a new empire, or possibly keeping the various provinces of Tamriel divided, similar to the Stormcloak/Imperial storyline of Skyrim.

I think the Empire could very well be defeated in the next game, but more likely it will be on it's very, VERY last legs. It would be pretty cool if the game starts with you, an Imperial soldier, charged with defending the Emperor when you're attacked by a legion of Thalmor soldiers that quickly defeat most of your fellow guards and kill the Emperor, and you're forced to flee with a few other guards. Then the game reveals that the Empire is in ruins, Tamriel is divided, and the Aldmeri Dominion is in position to destroy mankind.

The Redguards are easily bypassed. Simply don't go through Hammerfell. As for how the Imperials would stop the conquest of Skyrim, they're not really in any position to, no matter who wins the war of independence. The White-Gold Concordat allows the Aldmeri Dominion free reign to pass through Imperial territory, and they're not going to risk restarting a war unless it's obvious that they're walking an army through. Since the Thalmor have had 26 years (the time from the end of the Great war to the Dragon Crisis, which while unanticipated is convenient) to prepare for the invasion of Skyrim. The fact that there are armed Thalmor agents wondering around Skyrim means that Imperials aren't exactly stopping them from slowly building up a force in the area. Also, Altmer are powerful mages. We know from Morrowind that mages can teleport people from place to place (you could teleport between mages' guilds in this way). They could bypass both by doing that.

Hm, I was unfamiliar with the teleportation technique. However, I still maintain that if Skyrim was suddenly under serious threat from the Thalmor, the races of man would quickly circle their wagons and the Imperials and Redguards would come to the aid of the Nords. It might mean starting a full blown war with the Thalmor, but the Thalmor would likely turn on both of them next, and they'd be down one race.

As for the Nords being powerful warriors, yes they are, and doubtless a great deal will cast their lot with a hypothetical Breton/Redguard alliance but after having their land pillaged by Dragons and a bloody war of independence they're not going to be strong enough to stop AD from taking a lot of their land if they have been preparing to do so.

Like I said, the Imperials and Redguards would know that if Skyrim fell, they'd be next and they'd be down a few thousand Nordic warriors that could have been allies. If the AD invaded Skyrim, the Redguards, Imperials, and possibly Bretons would intervene.

Well The Great War book in Skyrim pretty much tells the story. There was a coup in Valenwood, the Thalmor forces won and that was the start of the second Aldmeri Dominion.

But are the Bosmer really loyal to the AD, or is there a sizable group that would happily rebel?

However, weak and few they may be, but they'd be a real nuisance if left unchecked. They strike me as the sort of race that's very well suited for guerilla warfare, which would be a real pain in the backside of the Dominion. Especially if open warfare has broken out. Having to devote forces to fighting Argonia, the Redguard/Breton alliance and stopping Khajits from setting fires in Valenwood would be a stretch.

How useful is guerilla warfare against Tamriel's most powerful mages? The divines would have to be smiling upon the Khajit for them to make it out of a major conflict with the AD. They'd be a nuisance for sure, but if the Thalmor really concentrated on ending the Khajit's involvement in the war, I have little doubt it would take them more than a year.

Working on my theory that Skyrim gets conquered, it's actually not as far away. It is a logistical nightmare, to be sure but if the Dumner populations in Skyrim and Morrowind are sympathetic to the Aldmeri Dominion they may be able to take a good amount of land without too many losses.

I think that's a big if. The Dunmer are already very suspicious given the fact they've been pushed around by Argonians and Nords, and while the AD's pointy ears may seem relatable, their high and mighty attitude won't get them very far with the Dunmer.

Yeah, they strike me as a smart bunch.

They did have +10 intelligence to start in Oblivion.

In the early stages I think the both will take any allies they can use. For the Dunmer, better an alliance with Altmer how look down on them than the fucking Argonians. For the Aldmeri Dominion, better that Morrowind is ruled by mer, no matter who they worship than the fucking Argonians. Ethnic cleansing comes later.

I don't know if the Dunmer would rather throw their lot in with the Altmer than the Argonians. Like The Who said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Show up here for my friends party & all they have is Miller Light and Boones Farm. What the hell?

Someone fly down here and help me finish this gigantic bottle of Jagermeister. No 1 at this birthday party is kickass enough to drink it.

I'm not a Jager fan, though I do like this shot that's composed of Jager, Malibu, and pineapple. It's called Surfer on Acid.

 

[nightmare]

You are complaining about alcohol choices and you are drinking Jager? I don't get it.

Ice cold Jager is delicious.

My shock was due to the fact that Boones Farm is usually reserved for girls or jr high kids trying to get a buzz. Not 5 grown men, playing cards and shooting arrows at the back fence. Especially not when your friend is 7'1" and wearing a Jason mask while playing Slayer on the guitar. It just doesnt fit the picture.

My little cousin also has a kick ass Lego collection, including a working Lego train set... so naturally we lined both sides of the track with his Lego people and made the train go plowing through them. It wound up turning into a big ordeal as I wanted to attach a camera to the front of the train, and we took about 8 videos of these Lego people being massacred by train. It got to the point where almost the entire party was involved in the production. There might be a directing gig in my future judging by the job I did tonight.

You should try and get a job making web shorts. You could be the key to bringing comedy back to SNL. Hell, I bet if you called the Conan O'Brien show he would give you a shot & play one of them on tv. How bad ass would that be?

I'm not a Jager fan, though I do like this shot that's composed of Jager, Malibu, and pineapple. It's called Surfer on Acid.

That sounds pretty crazy. Im gonna have to try that one out.

 

[justinsayne]

LOL, knowing JGlass's very public disdain for Conan O'Brien, I doubt he gives the show a call. BTW I doubt you just call up Conan's show & say "Hey can you put this short I made on your show please?" & He'd be like " Okie Dokie, we'll throw it in the show on Tuesday".

 

[Remix]

I still think the Bretons realize that if they defeat the Nords the Thalmor would turn on them in a heartbeat. I also don't see them being that effective in Morrowind. They could probably swoop in and take power with force, but they won't be winning any hearts and minds over there. I do, however, agree that the Khajit would be very easily manipulated. Poor cats.

The former is partly why I think the Bretons will cast their lot with the Redguards. They know that sooner or later, they're next. As for Morrowind, it's established that there's Dunmer refugees from House Redoran in Skyrim. Restoring a great house to power is a great way to get the Dunmer on side.

What are relations like between Argonians and Dunmer? I wasn't aware that there was hostility between the two groups. I suppose pitting those two groups against each other wouldn't be too hard in that case, but given their history, I can't see the Redguards being manipulated by the Thalmor.

Bad. The Dunmer enslaved Argonians for generations, considering them sub human/mer. After the eruption, their former slaves conquered them. That's more galling than aligning with the Thalmor in my books.

That would be pretty interesting, if your character is responsible for helping recreate a new empire, or possibly keeping the various provinces of Tamriel divided, similar to the Stormcloak/Imperial storyline of Skyrim.

I think the Empire could very well be defeated in the next game, but more likely it will be on it's very, VERY last legs. It would be pretty cool if the game starts with you, an Imperial soldier, charged with defending the Emperor when you're attacked by a legion of Thalmor soldiers that quickly defeat most of your fellow guards and kill the Emperor, and you're forced to flee with a few other guards. Then the game reveals that the Empire is in ruins, Tamriel is divided, and the Aldmeri Dominion is in position to destroy mankind.

Personally there are two potentially interesting stories I'd consider doing if I was writing. One focusing on the war (set in a Skyrim sized area that covers sections of multiple provinces owned by each faction) you pick a side (AD, Redguards/Breton, Argonia and Imperial (or maybe what's left of them give missions that aid your chosen side so that the war can be over and a strong ruler is in place)) and do quests that ultimately put them in a winning position and beat the big bad.

My alternative would be setting the game in Elswyr and focusing on what the hell happened to the moons.

Hm, I was unfamiliar with the teleportation technique. However, I still maintain that if Skyrim was suddenly under serious threat from the Thalmor, the races of man would quickly circle their wagons and the Imperials and Redguards would come to the aid of the Nords. It might mean starting a full blown war with the Thalmor, but the Thalmor would likely turn on both of them next, and they'd be down one race.

Thing is though, every time Thalmor have done something, it's been out of the blue. Valenwood coup? Out of nowhere. Khajit alliance? Out of nowhere. Declaration of war? Out of nowhere. Them amassing a force in Skyrim without anyone noticing is pretty much in character for them.

Like I said, the Imperials and Redguards would know that if Skyrim fell, they'd be next and they'd be down a few thousand Nordic warriors that could have been allies. If the AD invaded Skyrim, the Redguards, Imperials, and possibly Bretons would intervene

Yes they would. It would be the start of The Second Great War.

But are the Bosmer really loyal to the AD, or is there a sizable group that would happily rebel?

Why can't it be both? The majority are probably loyal, but there's bound to be a sect that isn't. See also: Forsworn. Most Bretons don't care much about the Reach, they do.

How useful is guerilla warfare against Tamriel's most powerful mages? The divines would have to be smiling upon the Khajit for them to make it out of a major conflict with the AD. They'd be a nuisance for sure, but if the Thalmor really concentrated on ending the Khajit's involvement in the war, I have little doubt it would take them more than a year.

About as effective as it is against everyone else. The mages are limited in what they can do because nuking your own territory is a very bad idea. They also wouldn't focus in the kitties, they are at war, after all. Devoting forces away from fighting the Redguards and Bretons is asking for trouble.

I think that's a big if. The Dunmer are already very suspicious given the fact they've been pushed around by Argonians and Nords, and while the AD's pointy ears may seem relatable, their high and mighty attitude won't get them very far with the Dunmer.

Better an alliance with the high and mighty than letting their land stay in the hand of subhuman beast folk. Also, it's House Redoran that are hanging around. They're the house of warriors with a spear up the ass when it comes to duty. If they can be convinced that retaking Morrowind is their duty, they'll kick ass to see it done.

I don't know if the Dunmer would rather throw their lot in with the Altmer than the Argonians. Like The Who said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

The new boss was at least never their property. That's an improvement.

 

[Diet Soda]

Then no, because Skyrim is an engrossing game and your wife may totally forget about your existence when she plays. Sorry pal.

[YOUTUBE]NJ6kJ7GWtv0[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Барбоса]

Considering the Argonians have conquered virtually all that is left of Morrowind, I doubt very much that Argonian/Dunmer relations are at a high ebb, giving the Thalmor another potential way to distract the Argonians.

A Thalmor invasion of Skyrim should encourage a Breton/Redguard/Nord/Imperial coalition in the defence of western and central Tamriel. But just because they should does not mean they will. The Thalmor have demonstrated that they have a deep insight into the hatreds and greed of so-called lesser races and how to manipulate them. Promises of land can make for strange bed fellows and offers in the Reach and Morrowind could provide the Thalmor with plenty of short term allies/distractions allowing them to deal with whatever the Nords and Imperials can cobble together.

 

[justinsayne]

JGlass, I need you to do me a favor, I need you to beat Stormy in fantasy today, beat him like the little bitch that he is... please?

 

[JGlass]

The former is partly why I think the Bretons will cast their lot with the Redguards. They know that sooner or later, they're next. As for Morrowind, it's established that there's Dunmer refugees from House Redoran in Skyrim. Restoring a great house to power is a great way to get the Dunmer on side.

That seems like it would be a good way in for the Thalmor. That makes sense to me.

Bad. The Dunmer enslaved Argonians for generations, considering them sub human/mer. After the eruption, their former slaves conquered them. That's more galling than aligning with the Thalmor in my books.

The Dunmer in Skyrim usually seem pretty grateful just to have a place to go from what I can tell. It doesn't seem as though many of the common Dunmer harbor any ill will towards the Argonians. Then again, things could be very different in Morrowind.

Personally there are two potentially interesting stories I'd consider doing if I was writing. One focusing on the war (set in a Skyrim sized area that covers sections of multiple provinces owned by each faction) you pick a side (AD, Redguards/Breton, Argonia and Imperial (or maybe what's left of them give missions that aid your chosen side so that the war can be over and a strong ruler is in place)) and do quests that ultimately put them in a winning position and beat the big bad.

My alternative would be setting the game in Elswyr and focusing on what the hell happened to the moons.

I can't imagine getting to side with the AD as they are evil through and through, though it could be interesting. I could, however, see you fighting for a side in favor of forming a new empire or for a side in favor of sovereign nations. I would imagine that Redguars, Orcs, Argonians and Nords would like sovereign nations, and Imperials, Bretons, Dunmer, and non-AD Altmer would like the empire back.

I can't imagine a game set in Elswyr. It's a desert with few cities and less scenery. It would be cool to go to a desert city, but I can't imagine an entire game there. That sounds more like a DLC to me.

Thing is though, every time Thalmor have done something, it's been out of the blue. Valenwood coup? Out of nowhere. Khajit alliance? Out of nowhere. Declaration of war? Out of nowhere. Them amassing a force in Skyrim without anyone noticing is pretty much in character for them.

The Nords already know the Thalmor are there, and they don't like it, and if our theory of the Stormcloaks winning the Civil War is correct then I can't see what is stopping the Nords from making the Thalmor leave Skyrim by force if necessary.

Why can't it be both? The majority are probably loyal, but there's bound to be a sect that isn't. See also: Forsworn. Most Bretons don't care much about the Reach, they do.

I might flip it and look at it like an American Revolution situation. Why would the majority of Bosmer be in favor of the group that took their land and called it theirs? But you're right, it's probably a little of both.

About as effective as it is against everyone else. The mages are limited in what they can do because nuking your own territory is a very bad idea. They also wouldn't focus in the kitties, they are at war, after all. Devoting forces away from fighting the Redguards and Bretons is asking for trouble.

Not if it's a desert where you literally want everything there to die. That would leave a few hundred Khajit scattered around the other provinces, and they wouldn't last very long in that state.

Better an alliance with the high and mighty than letting their land stay in the hand of subhuman beast folk. Also, it's House Redoran that are hanging around. They're the house of warriors with a spear up the ass when it comes to duty. If they can be convinced that retaking Morrowind is their duty, they'll kick ass to see it done.

If it's Redoran in charge then yeah, they'll cast their lot with the Thalmor, but it seems to me that most Dunmer don't consider Argonians sub-human in Skyrim. Hell, there's that one Dunmer in Riften that was raised by Argonians.

The new boss was at least never their property. That's an improvement.

It's worth noting that the Argonians haven't been slaves since the 2nd era, which was thousands of years ago. There was a war in the 3rd era as well, but that was a long time ago as well. If America can elect a black president, I'm confident that Dunmer and Argonians can put their past behind them.

Considering the Argonians have conquered virtually all that is left of Morrowind, I doubt very much that Argonian/Dunmer relations are at a high ebb, giving the Thalmor another potential way to distract the Argonians.

Fair enough. Then again, if the Argonians are in charge how successful can the Thalmor be at building up a Dunmer resistance?

A Thalmor invasion of Skyrim should encourage a Breton/Redguard/Nord/Imperial coalition in the defence of western and central Tamriel. But just because they should does not mean they will. The Thalmor have demonstrated that they have a deep insight into the hatreds and greed of so-called lesser races and how to manipulate them. Promises of land can make for strange bed fellows and offers in the Reach and Morrowind could provide the Thalmor with plenty of short term allies/distractions allowing them to deal with whatever the Nords and Imperials can cobble together.

I can't imagine the Bretons, a highly intelligent race, would want to take The Reach along with the potential betrayal from their Thalmor allies, not to mention that the Redguards wouldn't give a Thalmor a glass of water if he was dying of thirst. If the Thalmor attempt to invade Skyrim then the other races of men will know that they're next, and they'll use their geographic position to flank the Thalmor in Skyrim.