This year we have Jeff Hardy's first reign, Christian and Swagger as ECW champion, Orton's first deserved reign. And that's in the first 5 months. By the end we'll have most likely seen Punk's second reign, MVP's second reign and even Morrison's first.
I'm not so sure Jeff's gonna get another title reign, not just because he may be leaving the company, but because I'm not sure Vince wants it. If he had any faith in Jeff as champ (which we both know he didn't, Jeff was just so over that he basically felt he had to put the belt on him) he would have at least allowed Jeff to hold the belt until No Way out. Yes I know they wanted to push the Hardy vs. Hardy angle but it's not like they couldn't have found a way to make that happen without jeff dropping the belt and then had him lose in the elimination chamber. Christian and Swagger holding the ECW title is nice to see and all, but that belt is barely on par with the I-C and US title belts in terms of status, why do you think they put it on Mark henry for about four months? aside from the whole making sure he didn't sue them thing of course. As far as what we'll see in the coming year, I hope they wait to put the belt back on Punk, I think the guy needs to be built up more in the fans eyes by having some feuds that aren't shit (That feud with JBL was awful) and I think they are off to a good start by putting him with Umaga.
If I'm not mistaken, MVP has never held the world title, and I honestly don't think he'll be ready for that step for at least another year. I know they put a lot of effort into his character with the whole losing streak angle and all, but I just don't see him getting there quite yet. While Morrison's talent is undeniable, he is another guy I just don't see taking that main event step this year. His face turn, unlike MVP's, seemed to virtually happen overnight.
It was really kind of illogical for any sort of immediate main event push and I think he'll be trolling the mid card until at least next year.
Come on, no matter how good the material the creative staff comes up with, if it's given to the wrong person it won't work. Think about the Austin/Vince feud, if it had been anyone other than Austin it wouldn't have been anywhere near as popular. You're giving creative too much credit (there's a change...) They gave Orton the material, but Orton is the one who made it work.
I would argue that Vince is the one who made it work, not necessarily Orton.
You're saying both Cena and Batista need someone better to work with? Well they worked with eachother at Summerslam in what was a very good match.
As I've said before, it takes 2 wrestlers to have a bad match and it takes 2 wrestlers to have a good match. The Big Show/Cena match from the other week was pretty shit. And it was also carried by Show, which was evident by the way he was doing pretty much all the "work" due to Cena being told to sell his "injuries".
Apart from when Cena has been booked stupidly, e.g. with injuries to sell, can you honestly remember when Cena has had a bad match? And don't say he hasn't had a bad match in a long time because he's so bad that everyone he works with is better than him and therefore is able to make him look good
I personally was still unimpressed by that match at summerslam, but it was better than the Cena/Show snooze fest. It does take two wrestlers to have a bad match, however it can only take one to miss a spot or botch a move.
Batista is masterful and botching moves and being stiffer than Billy Gunn's jean shorts during a legacy match. Cena, I won't say is a bad worker, just a largely unremarkable one to me. His energy however, is what makes him compelling to watch in that ring. So I won't say Cena has bad matches, his energy tends to compliment the talent of the workers he is paired with (when the worker's are good (H, Angle, Edge, Jericho, HBK). When they are bad (KHALI, show, Batista) his powerful persona is what gets them through those crap fests without the crowd turning on them. So I won't say Cena is shit, like I would batista, that man is a plague upon the ring and must be wiped out.
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So basically, what you're saying is he showed instant remorse after he realised he'd just kicked Vince, showing that for a brief moment he was not in control, yet he's aware of his actions?
If he had lost control, he would have shown remorse for his action verbally the following week. But he didn't, he acted as if it were part of the plan and proceeded his attack on the Mcmahon family, maybe i should have added that part in.
Ok so you just called him a sociopath because he shows no emotion, yet you're critisising him for showing no emotion in his promos?
You confuse me.
He has always sounded that way, even before he was "crazy". He had that flat unemotional tone even when he played the part of the brash and cocky upstart. Thats what i'm saying, he plays into his character now by sheer coincidence if you ask me. Maybe creative knew it would fit, who knows?
Well then you're in the minority, people still loved Austin's gimmick and Rock's catchphrases up until 2003.
Yes, I am. Around 2001 when austin turned his character into a walking cartoon with all that "What?" tripe, I grew weary of it. The Rock was terrific as a heel, but his face turn just did not appeal to me. I am not saying I didnt get why these things were done, because I know the crowd loved them, it just didn't work at all for me.
Then as I said earlier, be patient. The new group of main eventers are being built up. Watch Smackdown only if those guys both you so much.
Dude, I have been watching raw since I was about 11 years old and this has always been my one weekly ritual, to sit down and watch monday night Raw. Knowing that the program was coming on that night, ALWAYS made mondays a little easier to deal with. Even when the product is sub par, I have always tuned in, because I have been through enough of the peaks and bounds of wrestling to know that at some point things will turn around for the better again. It's an excercise in viewing patience, which is why I come on here to vent a little about what i have been seeing since the draft.
You and I both know, Smackdown just ain't the same, no matter how bad Raw gets and how good Smackdown gets in contrast, Raw is still the program of choice.
It's stupid to boo somebody who doesn't deserve it. Cena works his ass off, got over very quickly, puts on consistantly entertaining matches, and it was Vince's decision to have him 'shoved down our throats'. If you're sick of him
or don't care about him and don't want to see him anymore, give him no reaction. That's what people do for Shelton. At least that way Vince will get the idea that he's getting boring. If everyone who's sick of him boos him and everyone who still loves him cheers for him, then he's still getting a huge reaction, he's still over and he'll still be in the main event.
I get what you're saying there, but that wasn't my point. The point is that when people pay they're money to see a show, they deserve to boo and cheer whoever they see fit. Cena does work his ass off and it is unfortunate that he takes all the flack for Vince being the one who shoves him down our throats. I dont boo or cheer my TV screen because i'm not fucked in the head enough to boo or cheer someone who cannot hear me. The fact that Cena envokes such a polarizing reaction does mean that he will likely be around in the main event scene until he no longer wants to wrestle. As long as he doesn't act anymore, I will be able to tolerate his presence on monday nights because as I said before I am not a Cena hater.
*Points to age* Give me a break. And I don't know what the hillz is
You know, I actually hadn't looked at how old you were until you pointed, lol.
Well i'll give you credit, you don't type your age friend. You're also better off not knowing what the Hillz is in any way shape or form.
As I've explained above, people have no real reason to be disrespectful to Cena. I don't particularly care for him either, but i'm still smart enough to know he doesn't deserve all the shit he gets, and you should be too.
He doesn't deserve to be hated the way he is, especially when batista gets defended at every turn by many of those same people.
*Sigh*... *points to age again*
LOL, really? I thought you guys got hitched at like age ten over there. (j/k)
At the time of writing that, it was before JD. I'll admit Miz got a good reaction at JD.
Oh, and the overness thing is true. Why do you think we keep seeing so much of Hornswoggle? And good ol' Cena?
Dammit, you had to say hornswoggle. Yes I know overness is all that matters, but for those wrestlers who don't have the blessing of a movie stars personality or a physical handicap (sorry hornswoggle), Mic work and ring skill tend to play large part in them getting over. You want examples? feel free to ask.
But by that time, there will be young guys who are rising through the ranks who Vince will not slow down due to the re-arrival of Trips. As much as Vince loves his son in law, he's not that stupid.
Have you not seen how Vince has been acting during this whole "Pepsi center" debacle? He may very well be that foolish.
Please, stop, you'll make me blush.
Well, while I don't agree with it, I think it's fair to say that Triple H deserved to win at Wrestlemania 25 for all he's done for the company. Make of it what you will.
Yes, the second example was what was best for the company. Triple H was one of the most over people in the company at that point. Check out the reactions he was getting then.
Actually, Undertaker went over Triple H for the first time back when Triple H was in his prime. Gonna complain about Undertaker not jobbing to younger guys now?
And that cheap victory Edge gotta over Trips is called a"heel victory".
HE may have deserved to win, but that doesn't mean it was best for the company. Hell HBK, 'taker, Edge and Jericho all deserved to go over for the belt as well. But they didn't, because it wasn't what was best.
Last year, he was incredibly over and it's hard to argue against that, but again, was it really what was best? Could he have no been just as over without the strap? We both know he could have. And no I won't complain about 'taker, because he let's guys go over on him on TV, not just ppv.
He helped cayapult Edge to being the top heel in the company last year and just a few months ago, he jobbed to VLADAMIR KOZLOV. while that is a complete mystery to me, it does speak to the undertaker's unselfishness, doesn't it? Also, I know what a heel victory is and it's hardly the same as a guy going over on Triple H cleanly, you know that.
Actually it's a pretty damn big step up from jobbing to Jimmy Wany Yang which he was doing 5 months previously.
Well, when you put it that way, yeah I guess so lol.
If there's one thing Kofi has never been, it's buried. He beat Jericho for his IC title reign and again to get into MitB. He beat one of the top heels on Raw a few weeks ago by defeating Matt Hardy. They thought he was good enough to let people think he was going into the Elimination Chamber in February even if it was only for WWE to throw up another swerve.
He's not being buried. He'd be losing to Kane on Raw if he was getting buried, but he also beat Kane recently I believe.
Instead he's being left off the card in favor of TWO santino matches and a goldust/hornswoggle segment, not to mention that ghastly diva battle royal (I always thought someone had to go over the top rope to be eliminated, not through the middle ropes). Hopefully that trend doesn't continue.
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Meh? I give you a perfectly good insult like that, and that's all i get in return?
Shame on you, lol.
