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[Lee]

Nothing exciting announced, expected with E3 being in a couple of weeks.

 

[Stormtrooper]

Nothing exciting announced, expected with E3 being in a couple of weeks.

actually they did announce one exciting thing, albeit only for those in the US and Canada.

Nintendo announced that they will have their E3 games PLAYABLE at Best Buy locations in the US and Canada during the convention. So even if you aren't able to go to the massive convention, just go to the store and play the games.


Granted that isn't news regarding games themselves, that's awesome news none-the-less.

 

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What could Nintendo announce that would potentially save the Wii U? A new Zelda? 6 new Zeldas?

 

[Stormtrooper]

What could Nintendo announce that would potentially save the Wii U? A new Zelda? 6 new Zeldas?

Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and Mario. All of which are already announced for being at E3.

And yeah, Wii U Zelda too could help. But nothing is known about that yet.

 

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Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and Mario. All of which are already announced for being at E3.

And yeah, Wii U Zelda too could help. But nothing is known about that yet.

So Mario? Again? Wasn't there a mario game released earlier this year? The ridiculous 5 player one? Didn't exactly help did it? I mean the Wii U's major issue isn't 1st party titles but rather the lack of 3rd party devotion. They're aren't getting any Unreal Engine 3(Or the latest engine whatever it is) support and one of EA's Senior Engineers had bad things to say. Also how can it hope to compete with the specs of Gen 4?

 

[Stormtrooper]

So Mario? Again? Wasn't there a mario game released earlier this year? The ridiculous 5 player one? Didn't exactly help did it? I mean the Wii U's major issue isn't 1st party titles but rather the lack of 3rd party devotion. They're aren't getting any Unreal Engine 3(Or the latest engine whatever it is) support and one of EA's Senior Engineers had bad things to say. Also how can it hope to compete with the specs of Gen 4?

What was the most successful console last generation? Wii, which suffered from a major lack of 3rd party devotion. Don't tell me that's a problem. It's not.

Oh, and a new 3D Mario adventure is a big deal. Look at Mario Galaxy 1 and 2. NSMB is not a major series.

Oh, and Wii had shit specs compared the the PS3/X360, and they not just competed, they beat the living fuck out of those 2 systems.

 

[Lee]

That person wasn't an EA developer. He had changed his twitter profile.

NSMB sells better than the 3D series.

EA said Vita would be the best handheld when it stopped developing for the 3DS and we know how that's turned out.

Yeah I'm concerned about the WiiU but fucking hell it's a Nintendo Direct 3 weeks before E3, of course there wern't going to be big announcements.

 

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What was the most successful console last generation? Wii, which suffered from a major lack of 3rd party devotion. Don't tell me that's a problem. It's not.

Oh, and a new 3D Mario adventure is a big deal. Look at Mario Galaxy 1 and 2. NSMB is not a major series.

Oh, and Wii had shit specs compared the the PS3/X360, and they not just competed, they beat the living fuck out of those 2 systems.

The Wii sold like hotcakes because of how accessible it was at launch for all age groups with it's new motion sensors. The WiiU is not at all like that and as a result is hemorrhaging money, look at it's sales. So in a case such as this; yeah third party support is fucking needed to try and make back what has been lost. Take off your fanboy glasses for a minute. There's next to no actual reason to get a wii u right now unless you're looking for the most convoluted gaming system in the market now.

Hell i bought a wii for the gimmick because at the time it was pretty great. Games like wii sports shamefully kept me occupied because the gimmick worked and games like Galaxy 1 & 2 gave me a reason to keep it. You're arguing that the new Mario should do the same as Galaxy but will that give people a reason to buy the system in the first place?

That person wasn't an EA developer. He had changed his twitter profile.

NSMB sells better than the 3D series.

EA said Vita would be the best handheld when it stopped developing for the 3DS and we know how that's turned out.

Yeah I'm concerned about the WiiU but fucking hell it's a Nintendo Direct 3 weeks before E3, of course there wern't going to be big announcements.

1. Noted, sorry about that then.
2. Cool, didn't know about it's sales. Thought a Mario game requiring(?) 5 players was a pretty bad idea.
3. Yeah that was fucking stupid, that being said Vita's seemingly doing better than i originally thought(I saw bombing hard for Vita). Still no reason to buy it though.

 

[Lee]

You can play with 1 player, the 5 player thing is just a mode.

I've played it all in 1p mode and thought it was much better than I was expecting.

 

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What about the whole touch to add block/platform function? can that be done in 1p?

 

[Lee]

Nah it's just something to make multiplayer a bit more crazy. I think it's designed for younger family members who feel like they're playing the game but not really. My nephew does it for me when we play and he's only 4.

 

[Stormtrooper]

The Wii sold like hotcakes because of how accessible it was at launch for all age groups with it's new motion sensors. The WiiU is not at all like that and as a result is hemorrhaging money, look at it's sales. So in a case such as this; yeah third party support is fucking needed to try and make back what has been lost. Take off your fanboy glasses for a minute. There's next to no actual reason to get a wii u right now unless you're looking for the most convoluted gaming system in the market now.

I do not own a Wii U yet (lack of funds), but please explain how the sytem is convoluted. I found it VERY easy to play with whenever I used it. Sure there is not a ton of games yet, but that was the same with every system when it first comes out. No it wasn't a perfect launch, but neither was the PS3. It turned out just fine.

Hell i bought a wii for the gimmick because at the time it was pretty great. Games like wii sports shamefully kept me occupied because the gimmick worked and games like Galaxy 1 & 2 gave me a reason to keep it. You're arguing that the new Mario should do the same as Galaxy but will that give people a reason to buy the system in the first place?

A new Mario game would BE the reason to buy the system, just like a new Zelda game would, or even a new Mario Kart game would, or a new Super Smash Bros game would. And at E3 they are definitely showing off 3 of those.

Similarly, a new Halo game would be a reason to buy a new X-Box (for some people, I find Halo to be shit to be quite honest), or a new Sony exclusive would be a reason to buy a new Playstation.

Oh, and there's no shame in enjoying Wii Sports. The game was (and still is) amazing.

 

[Lee]

Mario Kart would shift consoles. WiiFit and MK was one of the big pushers for the Wii.

 

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I do not own a Wii U yet (lack of funds), but please explain how the sytem is convoluted. I found it VERY easy to play with whenever I used it. Sure there is not a ton of games yet, but that was the same with every system when it first comes out. No it wasn't a perfect launch, but neither was the PS3. It turned out just fine.

How does using a controller AND a rather big tablet in one feel at all easy to use? There's a pretty basic and logical reason why most game controllers aren't huge and Nintendo show off a lack of focus when the pro controller is just a rip off of the Xbox pad. Also with how convoluted it is, it lacks a lot of basics with it's online mode such as half assed ideas(An unbelievably bad friends list/miiverse connecion as well as missing what has become the standard for online play such as group chats and achievements/trophy implementation)

A new Mario game would BE the reason to buy the system, just like a new Zelda game would, or even a new Mario Kart game would, or a new Super Smash Bros game would. And at E3 they are definitely showing off 3 of those.

This is what i don't get. How can Nintendo fans like the fact that Nintendo uses the same IP's(In this case Mario) over and over? Surely they'd need some new ones that can give Nintendo more of a consumer base because as of now it seems like they bank off nostalgia and children. That being said what appears to be the new Eternal Darkness could be extremely interesting.

Similarly, a new Halo game would be a reason to buy a new X-Box (for some people, I find Halo to be shit to be quite honest), or a new Sony exclusive would be a reason to buy a new Playstation.

This is what i referred to earlier, for the most part Sony don't carry their IP's over from gen to gen. Jak and Daxter finished with the PS2, and Uncharted finished with the PS3(Allegedly), and while games like God of War and Killzone did carry over; one was finished this gen(I hope, GoW has run it's course) and the other was only one game. InFamous is following through if you'd even call it that as it seems to be taking the Far Cry route and crafting new stories around the same world. They are also heavily rumored to be getting the exclusive rights to Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy Versus XIII - Two cash cows.

 

[Stormtrooper]

How does using a controller AND a rather big tablet in one feel at all easy to use? There's a pretty basic and logical reason why most game controllers aren't huge and Nintendo show off a lack of focus when the pro controller is just a rip off of the Xbox pad. Also with how convoluted it is, it lacks a lot of basics with it's online mode such as half assed ideas(An unbelievably bad friends list/miiverse connecion as well as missing what has become the standard for online play such as group chats and achievements/trophy implementation)

1. Using your logic, how can X-Box fans feel about their controller which is a ripoff of a Playstation controller? The Wii U Pro Controller is as different from the X-Box controller as the X-Box controller is different from the Playstation controller.

Oh, and by the way, every part of Nintendo's controller is a NINTENDO innovation. Face buttons, Start/Select, and D-Pad? NES. Shoulder Buttons? SNES. Analog Stick? N64. The other people copied NINTENDO as much as Nintendo "copied" them.
2. Have you ever used the Wii U Gamepad? The thing feels AMAZING. Ridiculously easy to use. Sure your hands a slightly further apart then they are with a basic controller, but it feels wonderful.
3. While I can't speak for Wii U online capabilities, PS3 doesn't have group chat either, so their online must be total shit too.

This is what i don't get. How can Nintendo fans like the fact that Nintendo uses the same IP's(In this case Mario) over and over? Surely they'd need some new ones that can give Nintendo more of a consumer base because as of now it seems like they bank off nostalgia and children. That being said what appears to be the new Eternal Darkness could be extremely interesting.

Why should I want something new if what he have has worked for close to 30 years?

They made BILLIONS off of "nostalgia and children" so why should they all of a sudden start making something else? That would be stupid business.

This is what i referred to earlier, for the most part Sony don't carry their IP's over from gen to gen. Jak and Daxter finished with the PS2, and Uncharted finished with the PS3(Allegedly), and while games like God of War and Killzone did carry over; one was finished this gen(I hope, GoW has run it's course) and the other was only one game. InFamous is following through if you'd even call it that as it seems to be taking the Far Cry route and crafting new stories around the same world. They are also heavily rumored to be getting the exclusive rights to Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy Versus XIII - Two cash cows.

So what I get out of this whole statement is that the other systems don't keep their characters going, building trust with their fanbase, which would lead to a better, more popular character. Mario is a perfect character/game. They will never run out of stories because the story is not what sells the game, the gameplay is (get that, what a novel concept, gameplay selling a GAME, maybe other companies should try that).

Sony never kept its characters going, and if you'd take off your Sony fanboy/Graphics-****e hat (see, I can be rude just like you) you'd notice that they have no characters that actually are worth anything, as can be seen by the total flop known as Super Smash Bros.Playstation All Stars Battle Royale.

Oh, and they have made new series. Pikmin and Animal Crossing say hi.

 

[Барбоса]

I demand a true sequel to Eternal Darkness, not just a 'spiritual successor.'

That is all.

 

[Lee]

Did you call Kingdom Hearts a cash cow?

The friends list/Miiverse works quite well actually.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

PSA wasn't an overwhelming success but it was far from a total flop, just saying.

 

[Барбоса]

Did you call Kingdom Hearts a cash cow?

The friends list/Miiverse works quite well actually.

I feel like I am missing out on such things as I use neither on my Wii U.

 

[Lee]

PSA wasn't an overwhelming success but it was far from a total flop, just saying.

The reliably unreliable VGChartz reckons it has only sold half a million.

I feel like I am missing out on such things as I use neither on my Wii U.

I use MiiVerse to post things that make me seem stupid. Yesterdays was to "do a barrel roll" on the Metroid one.

 

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1. Using your logic, how can X-Box fans feel about their controller which is a ripoff of a Playstation controller? The Wii U Pro Controller is as different from the X-Box controller as the X-Box controller is different from the Playstation controller.

Yeah you're right there. Don't wanna get pedantic over controller cosmetics.

Oh, and by the way, every part of Nintendo's controller is a NINTENDO innovation. Face buttons, Start/Select, and D-Pad? NES. Shoulder Buttons? SNES. Analog Stick? N64. The other people copied NINTENDO as much as Nintendo "copied" them.

Actually most of those things you listed were made completely based off of arcade machines. Analogs came from joysticks and were the next logical steps for all console developers due to the advancement of 3D gaming, start/select came as a way to distinguish from face buttons.

2. Have you ever used the Wii U Gamepad? The thing feels AMAZING. Ridiculously easy to use. Sure your hands a slightly further apart then they are with a basic controller, but it feels wonderful.

Yes i have. Probably more than you have since you don't actually fucking have one. I lived with someone during college who had one from Christmas until the end of the year and i did play it quite a number of times and found it to be rather convoluted and unnecessarily big. The Wii customers didn't buy the Wii U because, despite the name, it has nothing to do with the Wii or what made it attractive or accessible. The wii had a basis for a console with motion controls that work with only thing people want is improved games and graphical capabilities but instead there's the tablet controller.

3. While I can't speak for Wii U online capabilities, PS3 doesn't have group chat either, so their online must be total shit too.

Are we comparing 7 year old hardware from the last generation to 1 year old hardware now? But for the record yeah, PS3's online was pretty bad too, can't speak for PS+ though. Don't own it. PS4 does though.

Why should I want something new if what he have has worked for close to 30 years?

They made BILLIONS off of "nostalgia and children" so why should they all of a sudden start making something else? That would be stupid business

Bigger consumer market? Y'know, the market that expanded with the release of games like Wii Fit but right now there is nothing for them hence why there's nobody buying the console?

So what I get out of this whole statement is that the other systems don't keep their characters going, building trust with their fanbase, which would lead to a better, more popular character. Mario is a perfect character/game. They will never run out of stories because the story is not what sells the game, the gameplay is

Why not build more characters like Mario?

(get that, what a novel concept, gameplay selling a GAME, maybe other companies should try that).

Pretty sure an engaging character(Which mario isn't) along with an intriguing story keeping the player compelled(Not "Your princess is in another castle") to continue playing and intrigued and maybe create thought sells a fucking game too. Luigi is an engaging character actually if you played the latest Luigi's mansion, little things he does in that game such as being a coward everyman who shows personality by humming the theme music, adjusting his backpack for comfort and shivering when he's scared. It's becoming much more apparent why you don't like Bioshock. Bet you thought Spec Ops: The Line is just one of them run of the mill rooty tooty point and shooty right? But this isn't an "Is video games art?" discussion.

Sony never kept its characters going, and if you'd take off your Sony fanboy/Graphics-****e hat (see, I can be rude just like you) you'd notice that they have no characters that actually are worth anything, as can be seen by the total flop known as Super Smash Bros.Playstation All Stars Battle Royale.

I didn't know that Nintendo invented the arena fighting game(Or would it be a MOBA?) pretty sure it didn't. I'd argue it flopped more due to the fact that it didn't pick any largely well known sony figures such as Crash Bandicoot, Jak or Spyro or the hugely famous Herdy Gerdy. It wasn't that bad though, it didn't lose $366 million. Plus it sold 500,000 units, more than every Wii U game except for Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Bros. U but let's not be pedantic, the question of sales is not where you want a Wii U discussion to go.

Oh, and they have made new series. Pikmin and Animal Crossing say hi.

2. k.

Did you call Kingdom Hearts a cash cow?

The friends list/Miiverse works quite well actually.

KH has a pretty rapid fanbase plus with the fact that Disney now own the rights to Marvel entertainment & Star Wars(However i don't think the latter will be involved) it is only going to grow.

I found the friends list on the miiverse to have no rhyme or reason to it's sorting, also sending a friend request is rather difficult to grasp at first(Again, maybe it's just me).

 

[Lee]

The entire franchise has only sold 17million. Considering it has 7 in the series that's not a cash cow.

 

[JGlass]

Who argues over consoles and companies anymore? Isn't that kind of cliche? Can't we all just love the fact that video games are awesome?

 

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The entire franchise has only sold 17million. Considering it has 7 in the series that's not a cash cow.

Yeah but have you seen the level of FanFiction?

Honestly i remember hearing the first 2 sold like 10 million but i wasn't aware of how many titles were actually out.

 

[The Doctor]

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