Far fetched scenario regarding the title, or is it?

[chicagokmc]

Bear with me as I lay out this potential scenario that I don’t think is that far fetched…
• HHH didn’t want to really give Lesnar a title shot but did so because his other two choices Orton and Rollins are otherwise occupied in feuds. Lesnar was his only option to potentially end Cena’s reign.
• Predictions come true, Lesnar beats Cena and becomes champ. Lesnar also wins ppv rematch.
• After Cena is out of picture, HHH tries to tell Lesnar who his next opponent is for the next month’s PPV.
• Lesnar/Heyman whip out the creampuff luxury contract signed by Vince himself outlining the minimum schedule that Lesnar has to keep with the threat of suing if HHH tries to make him wrestle otherwise.
• HHH in an effort to save some face de-unifies the belts with Lesnar keeping the WWE belt and eventually facing Reigns (or Lesnar gets stripped and he and Reigns fight for the WWE title at WreslteMania) while the World belt is put up for grabs amongst Orton, Rollins, Cena, Bryan (if he’s back), etc.

Assumption filled scenario I know. But it doesn’t seem that far out there to me. And I point to the fact that after all these months the unified championship is represented still by two separate belts carried together. Much easier to de-unify while the belts are separate than it would have been had we gotten a brand new world title strap.

Thoughts?

 

[TheDrix]

Sounds good, but I would like to see them separating the titles again, so we will have WHC and WWE C..and I would really like them to end this never-ending s**t called The Authority, it's sooooo boring, still seeing Randy Orton, Reigns, Cena and others wrestle the same matches all over again. Would be nice if they finally separate the titles and create new storylines, or at least create another group that would fight The Authority and by that new interesting storylines would come.
Now I realize Im talking about a bit different thing as you do, sorry guys, had to say this.

 

[DirtyJosé]

I'd tear this to tatters normally, but I had a similar thought watching Raw last night. They have a new belt to debut anyway, so why not have Lesnar leave with the old ones (or just one, don't really care) and pull one of those "come back down the line and claim to be the real champion" angles, setting up a match for WM or other big PPV show.

I don't want to see a de-unification. Two world titles is clearly more responsibility than WWE can keep up with. Wasn't that the point of the unification anyway? So use Summerslam as the opportunity to be rid of it and move forward with one belt.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Yeah, it seems pretty far fetched to me.

After SummerSlam, it's more than likely the title will be represented with a single championship belt because that's when WWE will officially adopt its new logo. Last week, there was a picture making the rounds showing what looked to be the current WWE Championship design modified with the new "W" logo on it. If WWE had any intention of separating the titles, they've had a couple of opportunities to do so already. The most recent of which would have been at Money in the Bank when they could simply have had two guys atop the ladder fighting each other while each grabs a title and pulls it loose.

I honestly don't know what the big deal is with WWE using two title belts to represent the WWE World Heavyweight Championship for a while. It's not like it's some sort of monumental hassle, it seems more like nitpicking to me than anything else. Hell, if a wrestler in Japan walks around with two, or even more, titles hanging of his shoulders and he's thought of as a god. We knew it wasn't going to be permanent and that they'd officially go back to using one title at some point. Besides, after this Sunday, it's unlikely we'll see the Big Gold Belt again.

Another reason I don't see this happening is because I don't see Triple H being cast in the role of what ultimately amounts to being Lesnar's bitch. When Lesnar showed up in WWE a few years back, they did something similar when Big Johnny was the on-air authority figure. Lesnar & Heyman "threatened" to essentially hold the company hostage while Big Johnny spinelessly gave into whatever special demands they wanted, which didn't really make much sense considering that everyone with any degree of common sense knows that you can't start making further contractual demands when you've already gone ahead and signed your contract. I suppose that WWE could go ahead and say that Lesnar had some sort of special contract drawn up or whatever but, again, it's something that comes off as kind of lame because it's using some sort of fictional technicality that nobody really cares about and it stretches suspension of disbelief to a pretty ludicrous point. Given the scripted nature of pro wrestling, a champion has traditionally defended his/her title at least once within a 30 day stretch whereas a champion in boxing or mixed martial arts has to defend the title at least once within a 12 month period unless circumstances beyond their control, such as legal issues, illness or injury, prevents them from doing so. Lesnar taking the WWE World Heavyweight Championship and essentially disappearing with it for 6 months and "holding" the company hostage in such a way just doesn't make any sort of logical sense. I understand and accept that there are always going to be logic holes in pro wrestling storylines but if a storyline has a hole in it large enough to steer an aircraft carrier though, you probably shouldn't do it.

The thing about Brock Lesnar is he's been cast in the role of "mercenary", which really isn't stretching the truth all that much, and that means he ultimately does whatever he's paid to do. From a storyline perspective, he'll ultimately "work" for Triple H because it's all simply a matter of business. Lesnar might look like a dumb ape, but he's surprisingly savvy, and he Heyman's been a legit, close, personal friend and adviser to Lesnar throughout his career in wrestling or MMA. He wants to be WWE World Heavyweight Champion, that means he's ultimately in bed with The Authority.

Besides, there's always Seth Rollins waiting in the wings with his MITB briefcase. If Triple H decided to double-cross Lesnar, kayfabe, all he has to do is have Rollins cash in. The storyline would be that Triple H wanted anybody to take the title from Cena, but that didn't mean that he'd want just anybody to keep the title after getting it off him. Considering their history, Trips having Rollins cash in would be a nice little way to twist the knife into Lesnar's guts, snatching away his moment of triumph after it'd only just begun. After all, Lesnar will almost certainly have gone through a war with Cena win or lose, which means he's vulnerable. Lesnar could simply become another in a long line of Money in the Bank victims. It'd make him a former champion, just as Cena would be, and if Cena isn't written off TV with some sort of "injury", a way of protecting Lesnar would be to book him & Cena vs. Rollins at NOC. If Rollins managed to retain, he could do so by pinning Cena and vice versa if Cena regains the title. Lesnar would technically lose, but he wouldn't have been forced to submit or be pinned; so then he goes back into hibernation and pops back up during WrestleMania season.

 

[CrucifiedRaven]

It's always possible. And I've thought of a similar scenario. Not one where the title gets de-unified, but where Lesnar takes off with the championship and Triple H declares it vacant and awards the new logo title to Orton, Rollins or calls for a tournament.

Another option that I just thought of was the idea of Batista coming back and costing Lesnar the title. SummerSlam is in LA, so it kind of makes sense both in kayfabe and just logistically that Batista could show up. I'm willing to bet he does regardless, but not sure which feud he'll get involved with. Could also be Orton/Reigns.

 

[Anti-IWC-Marks]

I wouldn't pencil in Roman Reigns for anything just yet.

Like another thread said, the case could easily be made that Reigns will fizzle out. I don't know about you guys, but I'm already fast-forwarding through his matches.

 

[That N Word]

How I would book it is to have Brock beat Cena. Write Cena off ov TV until Royal Rumble with the excuse he was "injured" in the match with Brock. Have Paul warns Triple H that his client would only defend his belt when he feels like it. Triple H tells Paul that he has to. So Triple H books Randy Orton to face Brock at Night of Champion in hopes of bringing the title back to The Authority. Brock beats Randy at NOC. After he has Seth attempt to cash in on Brock. Brock destroys Seth before he can cash in. Seth and Randy complains. Brock tells him good luck with having a champion with him gone. Brock leaves with the belt holding them hostage. Triple H begins his feud with Roman until SS. After Survivor Series Triple H begins to focus on bringing the belts back with a slow face turn. After TLC Paul announces he will defend his title at Royal Rumble. Triple H goes to an unlikely allie in Daniel Bryan while Orton continues to complain and be a thorn in Triple H's side. Bryan loses and after the match before the rumble match him and Stephanie goes to Reigns. He says he won't do it for them. He will do it for them (WWE Universe.) Reigns wins the RR and immediately calls out Brock for a fight. Brock brawls with Reigns and eventually gets the better of a dizzy Reigns for an F-5. The next night Reigns call out for a fight. Brock doesn't show. At EC Brock defends in EC and wins. After the match Reigns beats up Brock and drops him with a spear. Meanwhile H eventually snaps and pedigrees Orton. The two starts feuding Batista returns for payback on both leading to an Evolution triple threat, Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar, maybe Cena vs. Rollins, Wyatt vs. Rock, Ambrose vs. Cesaro,etc.

 

[Mudlup50]

All I'm saying is it would be a nice idea but horrible for Lesnar. The title back when it was the Undisputed title got broken when Lesnar won it...so do it to him...again? I wanna see 2 titles but I think they should leave them together for a while just because of that and the fact that there would be no point in unifying them to begin with ><

 

[Reflection]

Not too far-fetched, apart from the idea of splitting the WWE World Heavyweight Championship into two titles again... That is very, very unlikely to happen. Apart from that, the rest are possible, especially Triple-H's plan backfiring, and Brock disposing of all the Authority henchmen like Rollins, Orton, Kane... If that happens, we might even see Brock Lesnar vs Triple-H at Survivor Series, where Brock will kick him all over the place.

 

[L@RISANO]

With Roman Reigns basically continuing the Authority feud and most probably going onto NoC to face HHH, I feel Lesnaro carrying the WWE title until WrestleMania 31 is truly "Best for Business'.


Apart, from finally keeping the title on a Heel once again since Mania, and with all of HHH's guys failing to get it back, they could just have Heyman making an amicable agreement and having HHH's backing which was sealed through the handshake on the RAW post-Battleground.


Also, Lesnar winning and defending the title at SS and NoC respectively, would mean he defeated the two Biggest Stars in the WWE and also has the title to prove his newfound invincibility. If he holds onto the title until Mania, then whoever defeats him in the Mania 31 Main Event would not only be beating the 1 in 21-1, but also taking home the Championship itself.

So, lMO, provided Lesnar wins at SummerSlam, then he should defnitely hold onto the titles until Mania, rather than just being a transitional Champ for one month because of his contract.


Cheers.

 

[Redemption-2012]

Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar for the WWE World title is probably penciled in no matter what at this stage. I don't really think it matters what happens between now and then as long as Brock Lesnar is made to look as strong as possible. Brock Lesnar is the biggest threat to John Cena right now and his title so having Lesnar beat John Cena for the WWE World title and then holding it until WrestleMania makes perfect sense. Lesnar is dominant until WrestleMania and then BOOM, Reigns beats Lesnar and becomes the next big babyface.

 

[Kong]

This will be the Authority's night. Lesnar will win. Rollins will cash in. HHH doesnt want Lesnar as champ. Steph will win also. Im pretty sure Orton is going to win also. This will set up Sting to return to take down the Authority. Simple as that.

 

[Mudlup50]

This will be the Authority's night. Lesnar will win. Rollins will cash in. HHH doesnt want Lesnar as champ. Steph will win also. Im pretty sure Orton is going to win also. This will set up Sting to return to take down the Authority. Simple as that.

I completely disagree Lesnar will win, Rollins can't cash in due to a beatdown by Ambrose. Brie wins because she needs to for some sort of pay off...she was given one match against Stephanie so if she loses she looks really bad. Orton might win, but I'm seeing this as a Reigns night. He's lost two PPV matches in a row and he's starting to look weak. Orton is looking strong just to fall to Reigns Sunday. Then Reigns can fight Triple H at Night Of Champions which will pretty much set up a nice 6 months for Reigns

 

[LBGetBack]

WWE does NOT need two "World Titles". That concept was always so stupid to me.

I mean, it might a little bit of sense during the Invasion, and I guess when Smackdown and Raw had separate PPV's. But since then? Completely pointless. The days of midcarders holding the WHC were God Awful.

ONE WORLD TITLE, for ONE COMPANY. That's it.

 

[kadroan]

Bear with me as I lay out this potential scenario that I don’t think is that far fetched…
• HHH didn’t want to really give Lesnar a title shot but did so because his other two choices Orton and Rollins are otherwise occupied in feuds. Lesnar was his only option to potentially end Cena’s reign.
• Predictions come true, Lesnar beats Cena and becomes champ. Lesnar also wins ppv rematch.
• After Cena is out of picture, HHH tries to tell Lesnar who his next opponent is for the next month’s PPV.
• Lesnar/Heyman whip out the creampuff luxury contract signed by Vince himself outlining the minimum schedule that Lesnar has to keep with the threat of suing if HHH tries to make him wrestle otherwise.
• HHH in an effort to save some face de-unifies the belts with Lesnar keeping the WWE belt and eventually facing Reigns (or Lesnar gets stripped and he and Reigns fight for the WWE title at WreslteMania) while the World belt is put up for grabs amongst Orton, Rollins, Cena, Bryan (if he’s back), etc.

Assumption filled scenario I know. But it doesn’t seem that far out there to me. And I point to the fact that after all these months the unified championship is represented still by two separate belts carried together. Much easier to de-unify while the belts are separate than it would have been had we gotten a brand new world title strap.

Thoughts?

I like your scenario but I couldn't see them splitting the championship. Instead, I see them no longer recognizing that championship and creating a new one like they did in 2011 when Punk left in 2011.

That would be a way to keep Brock as champ while moving on.

 

[FlairFan2003]

WWE does NOT need two "World Titles". That concept was always so stupid to me.

I mean, it might a little bit of sense during the Invasion, and I guess when Smackdown and Raw had separate PPV's. But since then? Completely pointless. The days of midcarders holding the WHC were God Awful.

ONE WORLD TITLE, for ONE COMPANY. That's it.

You needed two world titles to support two touring companies....each company had a main event world title match.

With house show (and everything else) attendance down to its lowest levels in years WWE is cutting costs, meaning less touring, less wrestlers under contract, etc. That's the only reason they are consolidating titles.

 

[FlairFan2003]

The two title idea only works if Cena beats Lesnar - Lesnar loses but dominates the match, he feels cheated (in reality he loses clean, he's just a big baby which fits his bully persona) so they "Create" a title for Lesnar, similar to Ted DiBiase and the Million $$ Championship circa 1990. This enhances Lesnar's heel character and makes it more palatable for someone to truly want to knock his head off.

There would be no doubt who the real champ is, that's Cena, and if Reigns is to win the title he takes it off Cena, WWEs biggest superstar of the last decade. A great way to burnish Cena a bit more before he loses while completely elevating Reigns in a huge way with that eventual win.

Lesnar remains a property In the mid card which given his miniscule schedule makes the best sense.

If Lesnar wins the title at SSlam then it makes no sense to "split the titles"....Everyone will know Lesnar is the "real" champ, especially if he beats Cena, easily the biggest win he's had since he came back. Separating the titles if Lesnar wins also takes a lot of the shine away from his title win and makes him less relevant, which if you ultimately plan on having Reigns beat him then it's dumb to have Lesnar beat Cena and then become LESS important, you'd be better off just letting Cena retain at that pont and having him face Reigns.

Funny thing, separating the titles and making Lesnar seem less important is exactly what they did to him in 2002 when he beat The Rock. They immediately followed that impressive win, a great moment to elevate him to the top, and crapped on it by sending him (and the title) to become Smackdown only properties, leaving him on the B-Show, amplified even more when RAW declared it would crown it's own World Champ and HHH, one of the biggest stars of the decade in his career prime, would wrestle 16 Time Champ Ric Flair to decide the champion. Make Lesnar seem less important by having maybe the biggest star on the roster (with Rock leaving & Austin MIA) battle arguably the greatest champ of all time to decide the Top Brand Champ while you are sent packing to the mid card.

 

[chicagokmc]

One of the reasons I came up with this scenario is the presence of the Authority. Everything leading up to tonight, with Lesnar and his prickish attitude and lack of humility, makes me assume that he will remain heel. If that's the case, what of the Authority? WWE will never book heel vs heel and even if they did, it would be hard to see how Authority vs Lesnar ends any differently than Cena vs Lesnar. I still think they will go the storyline route of, after rematch story is over, the Authority trying to tell Lesnar who to face and Lesnar/Heyman causing problems