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Extreme Rules: W.W.E Championship: Steel Cage: Randy Orton (c) v. Batista

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well its official. lets take another crack at these two going at it but lets place them inside a cage. will this stop the peanut gallery from helping out orton again. I think not. I was hopeing they would do something dif instead of a cage.
With the pg thing..they dont do blood like they use to and thats what made me look forward to a cage match but with the pg thing they dont do that as much.
I really wished they would have had a 6 man hell in a cell but again with the pg i dont even think vince would allow anyone to say the word hell now and would replace the word hell with cotton candy in stead.
 
A cage? Doesn't really sound very Extreme Rules. I mean, they do Steel Cage matches all the time. HIAC matches are saved for No Way Out, so that's out.

They could have done a Falls Count Anywhere match, that would have worked. It would have been perfect. Legacy interferes, McMahons come down to even it out. Legacy and McMahons wonder away from the action. Orton nails the RKO, goes for the pin in the middle of the crowd. Triple H pops out of nowhere and Pedigrees Orton. Batista Batista Bombs Orton and gets the pin. Gets his title, celebrates with Flair and Triple H. Then he spears Triple H and Batista Bombs Flair.

There. the Heel Turn Batista seems to want and he gets a title to boot.
 
I think the idea of a night of extreme rules is good on the whole. It breathes a little bit of life back into some stale match ups. This instance it is Randy orton and Batista. I;m looking forward to this match already. To me it is gonna be the return of Triple H. This could be a good match and I look forward to hearing which other matches WWE are gonna put in.
 
A cage? Doesn't really sound very Extreme Rules. I mean, they do Steel Cage matches all the time. HIAC matches are saved for No Way Out, so that's out.

They could have done a Falls Count Anywhere match, that would have worked. It would have been perfect. Legacy interferes, McMahons come down to even it out. Legacy and McMahons wonder away from the action. Orton nails the RKO, goes for the pin in the middle of the crowd. Triple H pops out of nowhere and Pedigrees Orton. Batista Batista Bombs Orton and gets the pin. Gets his title, celebrates with Flair and Triple H. Then he spears Triple H and Batista Bombs Flair.

There. the Heel Turn Batista seems to want and he gets a title to boot.

It's not a bad premise for a match and I like the idea of a feud between Triple H and Batista. I dunno how other people would feel about this feud though. To me it just seems like more of the same at the minute. I too was hoping for something a bit rarer, something like a best 2 out of 3 match or something. A cage match just seems a little bit tame to me really. I think I will still enjoy it though, because we are all aware that it is not gonna go smoothly.
 
if batista gets the title, that would suck, at least for me. he's horrible. and if triple h returns and screws orton, that would suck even more since i don't like triple h. batista needs to retire and triple h needs to stay off of tv. one way or the other, legacy should continue to show their cohesiveness and come out on top. and is it just me, or has ric flair gotten BIG?! i hope he returns to the ring. as much as it pains me to say, he was absolutely right on raw. he can outperform 90% of the raw roster. anyway, i hope to god extreme rules gets some more depth to it. all i'm seeing and hearing are triple h, batista, and cena taking the show. not a good start......
 
i still have a feeling ric flair is going to backstab batista and join forces with legacy. this could really help legacy out
 
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Okay, I just had to get all of those out of the way, because this match is one big joke. I get the fact that you want to think up a way to make sure Randy Orton can't escape from Batista, or get himself count-out or disqualified again. I also get that you want to find a way to keep Legacy on the outside, and the two rightful individuals on the inside. So a cage (structure) is fitting.

Unfortunately, for Batista, you pick the one match type he fails in time and time again. Look at the past with Batista inside Steel Cage matches. He lost to the Undertaker, he lost to Edge. He can't win inside a Steel Cage, and somehow the opponents always find a way to get around his "power" as well.

I think they missed a great opportunity to make this a Hell in a Cell match, I suppose that's being saved for Triple H's - Summerslam return, to take out Orton inside of.

Legacy is NOT going to be stopped because a Cage is enclosing Orton, like others have, they'll find a way to help him out. More importantly, like I said - Orton doesn't even need help, he's got history on his side. Batista fails at Cage matches, and I doubt this will be any different.
 
This is a typical RAW match pretty much. It sucks. A steel cage for the "Extreme Rules" ppv is crap. They do steel cage title matches on RAW on a semi-regular basis. Stupid match not to mention last time Bats lost the title was to Jericho in a steel cage several months back. Very blah stipulation.
 
wwe did miss out they should of done HELL IN THE CELL not just a cage match we see them all the time now there nothin special about them anymore a good idea it takin somethin from tna put a top on it and attach weapons on it and you climb the cage to get to the weapons but in todays PG i dont see it happnin
 
this match sucks big balls. why because like said this match is why Batista sucks. he had cages before and he sucks and makes him look clueless in there. Batista needed a falls count anywhere or i Quit match. Hell in a Cell is not for this Paper-view it is to resolve feuds not start them.
 
Prediction - This is just as boring as the HHH/Orton match from last years Judgment Day. The only positive I see is that neither Orton or Batista really go out of the ring that much as it is, so the match will be the same as usual. Other than they can throw each other into the cage, probably injuring Batista in the process.
 
I don't know if Batista has ever won a cage match and I'm not counting Hell In A Cell as a cage match. The HHH/Orton one at Judgment Day was pretty bad and I don't see this one being better. I don't think either one of them is going to win climbing out of the cage and I don't think Orton will be that smart enough to escape through the door so he wins this with a RKO.
 
It's not a bad premise for a match and I like the idea of a feud between Triple H and Batista. I dunno how other people would feel about this feud though. To me it just seems like more of the same at the minute. I too was hoping for something a bit rarer, something like a best 2 out of 3 match or something. A cage match just seems a little bit tame to me really. I think I will still enjoy it though, because we are all aware that it is not gonna go smoothly.


I know, right? I mean, it sounds done and done. Triple H/Batista. But I can't remember the last time they feuded, and it's better than Orton with the title and tanking Raw's precious ratings.

A 2 out of 3 falls would have worked. Anything other than a Steel Cage match. I mean come on. Legacy will probably just pull a Edge and sneak in as cameramen/under the ring. Then when the McMahons come down to help out, they can't get in. Wow, the GM's plan backfired. Whatever will she do? She makes yet another match for the next PPV, this time Batista gets uber pissed off and just starts destroying people. Not that we should be surprised, he's always "going crazy," with everyone being really surprised. "Oh, wow. Batista is shaking the ring ropes and bumping his chest. Why is he doing that? That's exactly what he was doing when he was pissed off at the Undertaker...and Edge....and Cena....and Orton. Huh."

Ugh. I'm hoping for a Batista win. But it's a Steel Cage. Batista will do nothing but Fail, leaving us with another month of tanking rati...I mean, the Age of Orton.
 
holy fucking crap man.

I am gonna have to drink a Red Bull before this fucker. Hey, lets throw the two most boring wrestlers on the roster in the most boring gimmick match possible!!! The only thing that couldve been worse would be a JBL-Batista-Orton steel cage triple threat iron man match. fuck.

I mean, rather obvious. Orton wins, legacy still gets involved, becuase y'know, most human beings can climb a fence and shit.
 
What this means is a conclusion to the series. Orton will win because putting the belt on Batista is just not a smart idea. This will be such a fucking boring ass match and I know they'll bust their ass, but there's only so much Batista and Orton can do in a cage. And how is there going to he a cage match with no blood? With the WWE being PG and all, if there's no blood in the cage match, I seriously doubt my fan hood to the WWE.

Hey, at least it's not HHH v/s Batista. In a cage.
 
Orton should win. His shitty way of winning the title needs to be redeemed by a long title reign. BUt with a long title reign, there needs to be better matches than this. I would have enjoyed a Strecher Match better than this. As said, these two together are just plain boring and just tell the same story in every match, Batista wants to kill Orton, beats Orton down, and suddenly something happens which causes Batista to not get what he wants. I might have prefered Ric Flair Vs Randy Orton over this possibly.

Orton needs the title more than Batista needs it. Triple H and Orton are "destined" to go against each other one more time in probably a Hell in the Cell. Batista is Triple H's replacement until he comes back from whatever he's doing.
 
See, I like a classic steel cage match. But, Batista is awful in this match. Every single match that Batista has ever had in a cage has been pretty terrible. It's likely due to Batista's lack of quickness or agility. I think this match will be like those. If you take a horrible competitor in steel cage matches and pair him with the wrestler who spends the majority of his matches with his opponent in a chin lock, then you are going to get a match that is laborious to watch.

I say Orton retains here. Legacy finds a way to get into the cage. They beat down on Batista. Flair pounds on the outside and looks angry whilst throwing his jacket and loosening his tie. The show ends with a beat down of Batista in the cage.

So, this match is pretty pointless. It's going to suck all energy from the crowd and there is no suspense to it as we all know that Orton is just holding on to the title until Summerslam where he can resume his role as Triple H's whooping boy by losing a Hell in a Cell.
 
I'm effy on this match right now. Generally I enjoy Cage matches, but these two are just boring together in the ring. I don't think much will change from their Judgement day match aside from a couple of head slams into the cage. Also, I don't understand how they can still say that the Cage will keep other wrestlers from interfering, when we have seen that it doesn't really stop them at all. I expect interference from Legacy and Orton walking away champion.
 
I do not have high hopes for this match, but maybe it will surprise me. I've actually always like the Steel Cage gimmick, and it makes sense here considering that they are trying to eliminate the Legacy from interfering, even though they can still interfere.

Orton will win, but there are 3 ways it could happen.

1. Orton goes over clean. No help from the Legacy or anyone else. Orton gets a legitimate pin and shows that he is a somewhat credible champion. This is the most ideal option, and bonus points will be given for an RKOP.

2. Orton goes over with the help of Legacy. This would pretty much suck donkey balls. Not only would it make Orton look weak again, it would probably also mean his feud with Batista would continue. This is the worst option.

3. Ric Flair and/or Triple H turn on Batista and side with Orton. I don't think this will happen, but it might. Personally, I would be a little skeptical about it, but would be willing to see how it played out.
 
This match is boring and I don't see why they continue putting Batista against Orton when they have never had a good match. Anyways Orton will probably win this awfully boring match after Legacy attempts to interfere and as usual Batista will outsmart them and not let them get inside the cage. When he turns around Orton will hit the RKO and then he will pin Batista and retain his WWE champion.

Hopefully after this match they will move on and feud with someone else, unfortunately I don't see it happening.
 
I think this'll be a decent match. It's clearly the lesser of the title matches at Extreme Rules, with Hardy vs Edge the big attraction, but it's solid. The Orton vs Batista feud is decent, and their match at Judgment Day was pretty good, I thought, though many disagree. Adding the cage can only improve things. So, I think we'll walk away with a solid cage match - nothing phenomenal, but hell, we've got the ladder match.

I'm figuring on an Orton win, but I think there's a possibility, more of a possibility than at Judgment Day, anyway, that Batista will win. It would be a big shake up for Raw, and Raw could use a big shake up. It could free up Orton for a feud with HHH that doesn't need to be about the title, so they could have the inevitable HIAC, while Batista occupies the title scene for a while. The problem is, we're a little too far from SummerSlam (which is where I assume HIAC would go down) for Batista to get the title now. It would mean Batista going through the Bash and Night of Champions and into SummerSlam still retaining, and I'm not sure Batista still has what it takes for that kind of title reign. Unless they send him into a program with Cena, which is just about the only way to get him through all that time. Probably the most likely place for Batista to get it is at the Bash, and that would be a solid time. It would mean building up one match (probably a one off) for at Night of Champions, and rematching with Cena at SummerSlam (where, presumably, he'd drop). Somehow, him going the extra month between now and the Bash as champ makes me think it would suck a lot of energy out his reign.

But, it's probably all moot anyhow. Orton should retain here, and will probably rematch in a Last Chance match or a further gimmick at the Bash, where he might, and I highly stress might, drop the title to Batista. In all likelihood, Orton walks out of Extreme Rules still champion, and keep going as the top guy on Raw.
 
My Final Thoughts​

Why Orton Should Win?
Randy Orton needs a meaningful title reign like the one he had in 2006. He faced many great opponents and has beaten them such as Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy, Triple H, and John Cena. He did get disqualified against Batista at Judgment Day so he needs this win. If he loses it to Batista, he may get the title back at Extreme Rules or he may have to wait a while. A feud with a returning HBK would be good for Orton, just enough time to keep him occupied until HHH returns.


Why Batista Should Win?

Batista's last title reign lasted a week for reasons I don't know. If he wins the title and turns heel, he can feud with Cena, HHH, or HBK. Batista has had long title reigns just like Cena, but the quality of those reigns haven't been as good as Cena. I believe he and Orton have decent chemistry unlike Orton and HHH but their matches have been boring for the most part. Also, he doesn't have a good track record when it comes to steel cage matches so it would be a good thing for him to win in a steel cage.

Who Should Win?

Randy Orton needs this match more than Batista. He's been beat by HHH constantly since their Evolution days and Orton needs to prove that those days are behind him and it can start with Batista. Also, it would be better for him to keep the title so he can feud with HBK supposedly getting revenge for his actions at Backlash. Then after Orton defeats HBK, HHH can return and they can have their final match at Summerslam in Hell In A Cell.

Who Will Win?
You would think that since this is a steel cage that there won't be interference but I believe that there will. I see Orton and Batista going back and forth and Batista suddenly gaining momentum towards the end. Just when Batista is about to hit the Batista Bomb, Rhodes and DiBiase come out and distract him. Batista then turns out and runs right into the RKO and Orton picks up the win.
 
Should be better than their previous match since it is a Steel Cage match. The only thing I ask wwe is for Flair to stay away from this match (or any match, for that matter)! Like orton said on raw "Do you even know what RETIRED means!?". Despite possibile intereferences from Flair or Legacy.... I'd say this match is gonna be good! Orton will retain. He never loses championship matches unless he's against cena or hhh. I'll be rooting for him.

Dagger Dias prediction: ORTON

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If HHH comes back this will main event. If not, it shouldn't. Orton should pick up a win, but not by pinfall. Him escaping is the best way to end this after Batista has thrown him into the cage a few hundred times. Orton needs to get away from a feud that involves three on one beatdowns.

If HHH returns, he will cost Batista the title in revenge for Backlash then set up their own programme or he will smash Orton's face in, win the belt back in a month and then go after Batista.

If HHH doesn't return, this match will probably be very un-memorable.
 
Should be better than their previous match since it is a Steel Cage match. The only thing I ask wwe is for Flair to stay away from this match (or any match, for that matter)! Like orton said on raw "Do you even know what RETIRED means!?". Despite possibile intereferences from Flair or Legacy.... I'd say this match is gonna be good! Orton will retain. He never loses championship matches unless he's against cena or hhh. I'll be rooting for him.

Dagger Dias prediction: ORTON

I was rather dissappointed with this match. Never again will I say "You can't go wrong with a Batista VS Orton match" because wwe proved that statement wrong last night. Ok, so it wasn't THAT bad, but it could have been a lot better. Why did Batista win? Orton was in the middle of a good title run. Was it because Legacy is turning into a second version of Hawkins/Ryder as Edge's clones? If that was the case then Orton could've turned on them or something. Besides, apparently Batista is hurt now according to an article on the front page of this site. Guess his title reign will barely last longer than Jeff hardy's last night did, LOL.... the match itself was average, at best.

Final thoughts: 4 out of 9
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