Expiring Contracts

[Jack-Hammer]

PWInsider.com is reporting that the TNA contracts of Eric Young, Rhino & Kyoshi are set to expire sometime in the near future. Few details are known at this time but, apparently, Eric Young has been offered a new deal with what's being said to be a significant pay cut. As for Rhino & Kyoshi, word is that they haven't been offered a new deal with the company as of yet.

If all three are offered new deals with TNA, do you think they should remain with the company or look for greener pastures somewhere else?

For me, I think it's pretty likely that Young will remain with TNA. He's been very loyal to TNA even though I doubt that Young is going to be involved in anything significant. Truth is, it wouldn't bother me at all if he didn't sign a new deal. For all intents and purposes, he's back to being a comedy jobber.

Rhino is little more than dead weight in my view. I've never seen anything special about him and he's essentially the same one dimensional, bland wrestler that he's always been. As far as Kyoshi goes, well what can I say about the guy? I can't even remember the last time I saw him on iMPACT!. I highly doubt he's going to be doing anything significant either, so I wouldn't blame Dixie if she simply saw any or all three of these guys as unnecessary costs to the company.

 

[Rasha]

I'm not as down on Young as you seem to be. I think it's nice to have a little humor on Impact!, especially right now when everything is so dire and serious with the "takeover" angle. Do we wish Disco Inferno or Norman Smiley had never been a part of our wrestling vocabulary? I sure don't.

Rhino... who cares? Like you said, he's just another guy at this point. They neutered him with all of the "training Jesse Neal" stuff to the point that he could no longer be sold as a hardcore killer, which is the only role he could possibly succeed in. I'm ready for all of EV2 to go away at this point, and Rhino's a good start.

And Kyoshi... how did he even have a contract to begin with? I figured he was a per-appearance kind of guy. I'll bet when someone went to Dixie with the list of expiring deals she saw his name and was like, "WHO?!"

 

[rondiesel2005]

Rhino has been kept in the dark for a long time till the whole thing with EV2 thing. I remember when he first arrive to TNA a few years after he arrive he won the TNA world title, but then lost it the next pay per view and never won or got a title shot after that. Doesn't he pay attention or something?? if you notice you haven't been use for a long period of time won't you go wrestle somewhere else?

I think they could use Eric Young for a while with the comedy he doing. And who is Kyoshi?? i saw him once or twice like what 3 or 4 years ago. Let him go.

Anybody know where Hernandez is at?? is he still with the company or??

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

there are no greener pastures for these guys... TNA is the second largest company and none of them are going to be in the WWE.. maybe they can go to Japan or something, but with it's schedule and location, TNA is their green pasture.. I like rhyno, but he needs to be used as a beast, or else he just doesn't work for me, EY is a joke and but for his friendships would probably never have been working with the headliners on camera and i don't even remember kyoshi

 

[Y2JChrisJericho]

I love my fellow Canadian wrestlers but I personally don't like Eric Young, I think he is boring, I don't think he's good in the ring either. Maybe it was because the first time I watched him he was doing segments with Sharkboy, that was a bad first impression. Than later on, I saw him with "The Band" and I thought he was even worse. He's boring to me, but he's Canadian haha

Rhyno, they could use him with EV2, but I hate EV2, and I think Rhyno is also boring. Nothing special, I mean if this was 8-10 years ago Rhyno was a solid mid carder now he's nothing special in my opinion. I hope they take disband all of EV2 with exception to Stevie Richards (always liked him).

And honestly I don't know who Kyoshi is, haven't been watching Impact consistently to even know.

 

[Chess]

I agree with pretty much everyone here. I wouldn't care if none of them stay. I like Young in the comedy role but only if he is cheap, he will never amount to anything much. Rhino is just average, Kyoshi was never given a chance but didn't look too entertaining.

I would like them to cut some more people and rejuvinate the X division as I miss that, maybe Jack Evans and the AAA guys story is true.

Also like rondiesel2005 said - where is Hernandez?

Anyway dump these guys, then EV2 (apart from Stevie) and sign some X division guys and Benjamin and Haas. The tag division is getting dry to with the same teams continuously, Ink Inc just can't wrestle

 

[Kenny Powers]

I thought Rhino was gone, but I guess he may stick around. I wouldn't be surprised if Rhino or Eric Young were the Anonymous upset TNA wrestler on Twitter. Then again, the fake Hulk Hogan and all the other drama we read about months ago was a computer hacker. I wouldn't doubt that whoever is commenting on Twitter as a frustrated TNA wrestler who's contract is expiring soon is probably a hacker as well.

Dixie will probably sign all 3 of them, because she doesn't get rid of anybody. Maybe they will leave on their own if they aren't getting paid that much. There really isn't much TNA can do with Rhino or Eric Young at this point. Kiyoshi hasn't been on television or even at house shows for months, so I don't know what they are using him for. Especially since they have a new Japanese worker named Okada who is filling in as Suicide. There is a lot of talent that TNA can do without, but they haven't been cut them.

 

[flocker]

Why cut them?

Seriously, EY is funny. He's a solid worker. I hear he's good in the room. He doesn't get paid much. He was solid when he was part of the upper mid card. He's not bitching in a comedy jobber role in a tag team that might make a LOT of guys uncomfortable. There is NO WAY that whatever he gets paid moves the TNA payroll needle a notch. So keep him.

Rhyno has NOWHERE to go. The e doesn't want him. He almost certainly can take indy dates that don't conflict with taping dates. Offer him a appearance based contract and keep him around as a jobber or midcarder. He still has a "name", it just isn't ever going to be at the TOP of the marquis ever again.

Kyoshi. The japanese guy with red streak in his hair, right? They can't have been paying him much. He might be more useful than Amazing Red. Ok, let that guy even internet fanboys don't remember go.

 

[Rckstrtmmy]

The only one that matters on this list is EY and he's gonna stay cuz honestly where else would he go? Even if he left it wouldn't hurt or help anyone. Rhino and Kyoshi are useless and have been used as such. If they stay or go it won't matter.

 

[Joe's Gonna Kill You]

Eric Young- Will probably be resigned and I don't mind if he does get resigned. Young plays his comedy role very well and he brings a nice bit of humor to Impact and he probably does not cost much so I have no problem signing him to a New deal.

Rhyno- He is one of the few Ev2 guys that actually want to keep in the mix. He is still in good shape at the age of 35 and I still think that he can be useful to TNA. I think that he is still capable of putting on Good Matches. So I would have no problem resigning Rhyno.

Kiyoshi- Has not been on Impact in a Long Time but he has been a couple episode of Xplosion teaming up with Okada and they make a good Tag Team together. The only reason I would keep him if they continue to keep Kiyoshi and Okada and use them to add more depth to Tag Division on Impact, Otherwise I wouldn't care if he was let go.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

None of them are particularly worth bringing back as far as I'm concerned. Young is a comedy jobber (for the most part) with very little upside, though I did actually enjoy him much more as the World Elite leader. He's funny, but he's Santino funny — there's some weeks you crack up and others you wish he'd fall off the face of the planet never to return.

Rhino and Kiyoshi? Hard to even put into words why either should stick around. They're cannon fodder. Who cares?

If these guys are worth keeping around as some of you have noted, tell me what either has done in the last five years that's actually mattered, and I'll consider re-thinking my position here. Don't worry, I'll wait...

 

[klunderbunker]

Kiyoshi: for sure. Has no point on the roster, hasn't been on Impact in forever, never was anything other than a jobber, no point in having him around anymore taking up any random appearance money he gets or having to try to get him wedged into an angle etc. Drop him.

Young: maybe. He probably has the most to offer of these three which isn't saying much. I'd keep him around for the same reason you keep the Divas around though: you need a segment on the show where you can just not have to pay attention. Young's segments offer that. The fans seem into him and he can actually offer a little something. I'd have no problem dropping him though.

Rhyno: Not sure. This depends on your thoughts on EV. If you like them, he should stay. If you can't stand them, he needs to go. He's the only guy in the group that is a threat to be able to get a win and is by far the most accomplished of all of the group. If EV is sticking around then keep him. If you're not keeping the team around, drop him.

 

[Captain Jive]

I say dump all 3. EY is ok, but he gets irritating after 2 minutes. Rhino, I quit caring about a few years ago. Who the fuck is Kyoshi anyways?

Also why are people saying they should stay because they dont have anywhere to go? If no other company in the world wants them, then that should give you a hint that they're worthless. Actually thats not a hint, when you have no worth to anyone, thats the definition of worthless.

 

[MB1025]

IMO I think TNA needs to use some of these guys to put over other talent. Not in the way were Eric Young is so great and if said wrestlers beats him it puts him over. In a way were it gets people like Pope, Styles, Anderson, and whoever else some credible wins and a way to show off to the people watching. I mean right now TNA has a bunch of guys on TV that you can make an argument or them being pushed. There really is no mid card for TNA. Why can't AJ Styles go out and wrestle Stevie Richards or Eric Young and go over while you build up his match with the Pope for PPV. I think they should all come back, but we need to use them on TV to actually lose matches to the better and more significant talent. In other words they need to stop having the same guys on Impact wrestling each other every week.

 

[ABMorales787]

Out of all, Young should be the only keeper. He's entertaining and to my understanding a good House Show attraction. He does the comedy role very well and we've seen him be quite the heel too. He has potential unlike Rhino and Kiyoshi. Rhino's mileage ran out years ago and Kiyoshi... What was the point in him?

 

[shattered dreams]

I would keep Rhino if he is reasonable about money. He still is in decent shape and only turned 35 this month, can still do his gimmick (albeit as one dimensional as always but the gore is still over) and is a recognizable veteran (ECW, TNA NWA, US and Hardcore champ). I have often talked about TNA being a little short on the veterans that can be used to put on the midcard feuds to boost up and comers and Rhino would fit the mold for me.

Unless EY wants to get paid like he is going to be in the main event one day then I think it would be stupid to get rid of him. Just because they do not need a guy is not an indictment to get rid of them. Most companies only need about 3-4 guys and the rest just fill out the roster as best they can. EY is over with the TNA fans and almost always has been in his role. If he is willing to work in that role then I would definitely keep him.

Kiyoshi cannot have much negotiating power. Most companies keep a jobber of those sorts around for dirt cheap anyway and he may have some potential. So it wouldn't hurt if they kept him (at least we know they will not use him for a lot of appearances) but it really is irrelevant what they do with him at this point.

 

[I_Am_Electro_Boy]

Eric Young: I hope he stays, I've always liked him and I'm really liking his current comedy gimmick, it's the only thing that isn't serious in TNA right now. Anyway he deserves to stay, he's always been loyal to the company and he isn't that bad in any department, also he's over with the crowd.

Rhino: I hope he goes, it's not that I don't like him because I do. But it's because he's just being booked like shit and has been for years, I like him and I think he deserves to have a nice push and that isn't in TNA. He's a good talent, he's okay on the mic and in the ring and like I said TNA's just not the place for him in my opinion.

Kiyoshi: What's the point of keeping him, he hasn't been on tv for a long time and is just a waste. There's nothing more to say, he's just wasteful.

 

[DangerousDave]

If all three left, I wouldn't miss them, there is much better talent on the roster.

Rhino: I would like to see him leave and take the rest of the EV2 guys with him. The guy has zero charisma, when I see him in a match I see it as a waste of the young talent in the back.

Kiyoshi: This guy needs a one way ticket to Japan. Of all the talent in TNA, I would put him at the bottom of the list. I've never seen him have an exciting match, ever.

Eric Young: I'm on the fence about Eric. My main bitch is his current comedy gimmick. I know a lot of people like it, but I'm not a fan of comedy matches at all. I think comedy matches make the serious wrestlers they face look like fools for putting up with the comedy bullshit. If Eric were to whack his head again and come back to normal he could be useful.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

According to something I read a little while ago, Hernandez's contract is due to expire sometime next month. He's been working in AAA for months now and I can't remember off the top of my head when I last saw him on iMPACT!.

Personally, I think Hernandez would be better off just leaving TNA and staying in AAA on a full time basis. I'm just assuming this, but it's possible that he'd make more money for them than in TNA and I just don't think anything's going to happen for him in TNA. Homicide is gone so there's no hope at all of an LAX reunion, he turns 38 and he hasn't really done anything in TNA as a singles wrestler and I don't think that's likely to change.

 

[johnbragg]

I would normally say that Rhino is disposable crap, but I think this thread is actually underestimating him a little bit.

I think he is useful as a jobber-to-the-stars. Because of his build and his look, he can be sold as a "tough out", a difficult opponent for anyone on the roster. He doesn't ever have to win a match, just to be a guy who can take Styles or Hardy or Morgan or Doug Williams or Anderson or Jay Lethal 10-12 minutes and give them some anxious moments.

That said, he's still disposable. I'd say a per-appearance contract, or a guarantee scaled to 15-20 TV matches plus some house shows.

 

[CommanderG]

I would keep EY as he is really over and is very loyal to TNA.

Rhyno can go away, he is still a decent worker but you can find better.

Kiyoshi they really need to get rid of. If they want a Japanese wrestler try and find Tajiri.