Edge: How far can he go?

[Marquis]

So today while i was watching Edge on Smackdown i started wondering if Edge can surpass Triple H's world title reigns. With the way hes being booked, i see no reason why he can't. Edge is the top heel on Smackdown and arguably of the whole company. With no other heel in the main event scene right now on Smackdown aside from maybe Kozlov. It's safe to say Edge will be in the title scene for a long time. The only way i possibly see edge not achieving more world title reigns then Triple H is if he gets drafted over to raw. The main event scene being more crowded over there, would make it tougher to have numerous reigns.

So i ask you. How many world title reigns do you think Edge will have? And do you think he will surpass Triple H's world title reigns?

 

[klunderbunker]

I could easily see him getting 10 or so but I can't picture him passing up HHH. HHH wants Flair's record and there's nothing in the near future that's going to stop that. Barring an injury he'll win probably 17 or 18 titles then retire. Edge on the other hand picks up almost all cheap title wins which plays to his character perfectly. I could see a face run in him too as he's at the peak of his career and has a good many years left in him. With him getting all kinds of short title reigns that add up quickly I could see it. He's at 7 now and you figure he loses at Mania then picks it back up by the end of the year, that's 3 in just over a year. Hard to say how far he could go with it by the time he hangs it up.

 

[NSL]

I agree with KB that Triple H will capture the record, and hold it as long as WWE is around. However, just the other day, I half-jokingly said that in a few years, we could be watching "Edge - 22 time world champion".

Likely? Probably not. But, with the number of title changes they've had on Smackdown lately, you never know. If the title changes over the last year were between 6 or 7 different wrestlers, I'd say there's no way Edge taks the reigns as #1 champ of all-time. But, the title has changed between Edge, Undertaker, Triple H, and once to Jeff Hardy.

Triple H will retire with the world title record. We know this. We want this. However, when he retires, the record will mean as much as the IC Title. It will never matter how many times a wrestler has held it, just who he beat to win it, and how long the reigns were. Edge could very easily pass Hunter, and who knows who could pass Edge after that.

 

[Spunky]

As much as I love Edge, I dont think his reign's will surpass 15 world championship's, He is SmackDown's go to guy at the minute, As the higher up's know that Edge will carry the belt well, Along with who ever he is feuding with, As the guy hasnt had a bad fued in the last 3+ years.

I see the ranking's as:

1. The golden boy, Triple H.
2. The legend, Ric Flair.
3. The opertunistic, Edge.

And I mean that in no bad way what so ever. Edge is a world class competitor, But no one will dethrone Triple H - THE world class wrestler.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I think there is an underlining method to the madness that's becoming the double digit World title reigns. Quite possibly this is being built for a possible two-year WrestleMania Main Event, down the road.

What I mean is, I could easily see Edge slowly gaining on Triple H., while Triple H. doesn't win anymore titles, or just a very small limited number of them. (2, at most) This would build for a Main Event WrestleMania match-up of "Mega" proportions. (likely like Hogan/Warrior?) It would be two guys who've done everything, and are catching Flair's reign. Thus, the likely ending result would be Triple H. going over though.

While that much of my theory is purely fantasy and likely nothing more than a pipe-dream, the truth is I very much believe Triple H. will capture Ric Flair's record, and Edge will likely come close, if not possibly tie it. At this rate, Edge will vastly surpass it, but I doubt it.

And if Edge does surpass it at the rate he's going, it won't mean as much, because most of his reigns right now aren't meaningful to the point of being remembered. (Not that all of Flair's were, either, mind you)

Whereas the thing about Triple H.'s reigns, outside of maybe 1-2, his have been remembered. The two glaring reigns he's had that aren't memorable would be his stripping of the title, only to win it back in the Elimination Chamber in 2005. (I think that was the year) And his victory over Randy Orton, only to drop it back to Orton in the same night, at No Mercy.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Whereas the thing about Triple H.'s reigns, outside of maybe 1-2, his have been remembered. The two glaring reigns he's had that aren't memorable would be his stripping of the title, only to win it back in the Elimination Chamber in 2005. (I think that was the year) And his victory over Randy Orton, only to drop it back to Orton in the same night, at No Mercy.

What about winning it from The Rock at Judgment Day 2000 thanks to a DQ decision during the Iron Man Match courtesy of The Undertaker, only to lose it back to The Rock during a 6-man tag at KOTR, after he pinned Vince. Now THAT's a shit reign. Didn't actually earn the title, and didn't actually lose it either.

OR, making a huge comeback in January 2002, winning the Royal Rumble, defeating Undisputed Champion Chris Jericho at WM, and then....... lost the belt to Hogan thanks to the Undertaker (again) at Backlash 2002.

I too, am certain that HHH will get to 17 reigns. Edge has all the ability and skill in the world and is still young, BUT there is major issue coupled with one physical difference between the two.

Edge is put into high risk gimmick matches more frequently than HHH these days imo, and HHH has never had a broken neck. Edge is used in TLC matches at least once a year and has had some gruesome Hardcore matches and even pushed the boat RIGHT out for HIAC. HHH has had the EC (big deal, you can be slammed on the steel floor, and?) and a LMS match which isn't THAT high risk unless you go for your finisher and get dumped out of the ring at an awkward angle, lol.

But as long as nothing catastrophic happens to Edge i could see him surpassing Flair as well, but probably never HHH.

 

[Jane]

The real reason Edge has been getting so many title reigns lately is that he is all Smackdown's got. He got, 4?, title reigns in just over a year. He is a good wrestler who plays his part well, but I can't see him passing Triple H. Eventually Edge will start having long, more meaningful reigns and then the number will stop rising so fast. On the other hand, he has alot longer in the business then Triple H, and if he can go until he's Ric Flairs age then it's a possibility he will get up to around 10-11 reigns. Of course, by then Triple H will be on reign 32(overexaggerating..maybe) or something, so I don't think Edge will pass Triple H, but he will get up there into the high numbers.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

The real reason Edge has been getting so many title reigns lately is that he is all Smackdown's got. He got, 4?, title reigns in just over a year. He is a good wrestler who plays his part well, but I can't see him passing Triple H. Eventually Edge will start having long, more meaningful reigns and then the number will stop rising so fast.

I tend to agree with this part of your post. Edge has truly helped carry the Smackdown brand since he moved over there. The Undertaker is on a very limited basis, and while just mention of an Undertaker appearance still gets several hundreds, if not thousands to attend.. it's normally Edge and the performance he, along with several others, put on.. that keeps the fans coming back when Taker comes up missing.

As result, I do believe Edge will begin having longer reigns. And my theory on why he hasn't had any (outside of injury from two year's ago) is because it works better in his favor, to put over other individuals.. then capitalize by 'stealing' the title back at a short, later time.

On the other hand, he has alot longer in the business then Triple H, and if he can go until he's Ric Flairs age then it's a possibility he will get up to around 10-11 reigns.

Unfortunately, I don't think Edge will be in the business this long. He's been injury prone and as result, I don't seriously believe his body, namely his neck, will withstand another 10-15 years.

Of course, by then Triple H will be on reign 32(overexaggerating..maybe) or something, so I don't think Edge will pass Triple H, but he will get up there into the high numbers.

Triple H. is bound to break the record, if for no other mixed reason than..

A.) He's the W.W.E.'s standard Championship poster child.
B.) Ric Flair mentored him and likely would not mind at all that it were him, to replace Flair's historical performance.

That said.. it's not shocking, or too hard to think Edge might not at least come within 1 title reign short, of Ric Flair's. Just because of who Edge is in this business, and what he's come to mean to this industry.

He's (Edge) definately earning a Hall of Fame spot, regardless of anything else he'll accomplish.

 

[avi01]

He will go far....he may probably not have 15 championship but he will go far and rightfully so. He started at the bottom of the ladder, made his way to the top (the hard way with unforgettable TLCS, good intercontinental title reighns etc..) and deserves to be the there. Besides he has a lot of charisma.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

At the rate Edge wins championships, he could easily be a 15+ time champion. He became a 7 time champion in 3 years after all. His championship 'thefts' fit perfectly with his character, thus I can't see it getting old. Even though his reigns were short, most of his title wins were shocking: both Money in the Bank cash-ins, "firing" the Undertaker, surprise return at SS2008, and Matt Hardy backstabbing Jeff. Those were some of the most surprising moments in recent years. If WWE Creative can keep coming up with surprises like that, Edge can easily become a double digit champion.

The only real issue Edge faces is being drafted to RAW. Right now, Edge IS Smackdown and it has been that way ever since he got drafted. He is the only real main event heel on Smackdown, thus Face champions don't really have many feuding options. RAW's title scene is way too crowded, especially with heels.

Passing Triple H? I doubt that would ever happen. Triple H is obviously going to beat Ric Flair's record and I could see him being a 20 time champion before retiring. Triple H probably has at least 6 years of wrestling in him before age starts to kick in. Provided that he doesn't face any serious injury (or divorce from Stephanie ), there really isn't anything stopping him from reaching his goal. Given the amount of pull he has backstage, I'm sure Triple H will ensure that his record stays intact for a long time.

Edge and Triple H are both very similar though. They started at the very bottom and worked they're way up to the top. Even though Triple H is married to Stephanie, it's easy to overlook his earlier days. Both these men deserve to be cemented in WWE history with their title reigns.

 

["Cool Guy" Jensen]

At the rate that this is going, Edge can easily surpass Triple H's World Title record by his 40th birthday, assuming he is physically able to continue wrestling that long. The difference between the way HHH reached the top and how Edge reached the top is that during the time HHH reached the top, there were less possibilities than there are now. Triple H had title shot after title shot after title shot, before finally winning his first World Championship. Edge, however only had a World Title shot 2 or 3 times prior to cashing in the ''Money in the Bank'' briefcase.

HHH started with short title reigns and then started having longer, more memorable ones. That is probably the direction that WWE plans to go with Edge after he loses the WWE Championship again. The good thing is that having short title reigns doesn't destroy Edge like it would the average wrestler. It fits perfectly with his ''Ultimate Opportunist'' gimmick and that's how it will be for a while.

The thing I don't like is, what has Triple H done that makes him deserve to surpass Ric Flair's World Championship record? I don't mind him tying it, but I would hate for him to surpass him. Edge on the other hand deserves to tie or surpass Ric Flair's record for 7 very short title reigns which will probably end up with a few more. I'm sure both Triple H and Edge will come very close to Flair's record, but will they surpass it? Only time will tell.

 

[bill1919]

Now i dont know if it was on WZ that i heard this but i think it was... HHH is on record saying that he doesnt want to beat Flair's record so... that leads me into my thought that HHH will tie Flair by the time he decides to retire... I know he is the "golden child" and all of that... But as long as he is on SD he can be screwed out of the title by Vicki and Edge... this being after HHH holds the title for a good while after WM... now with Edge on the other hand not saying that he doesnt have the respect for Flair that HHH does i dont think he would let that stop him from being the "greatest" world champion of all time.... Now i do agree with the injury factor that everyone is bringing up but the same could be said for HHH also i mean he has had a couple big injuries the last few years... all be it none as big as Edge's neck so i would really call the injury factor even between the 2 of them... and the other thing is for the next few months or year is that as JR said in his blog there is now 1 more main event player on SD (now i know alot of people wont agree with that but it looks like its going that way) and Matt Hardy is now a heel so that could also take away from Edges time at the top... so as u can see im kind of on the fence but leaning towards Edges side just because HHH might not want to pass Flair

 

[ecwozzy2007]

i think with HHH being mcmahons son in law theyre trying to make HHH the next flair. but edge is one of WWE's main heels hes in for another few title reigns but i dont think he will surpass HHH's reigns

 

[Blade]

We all know Vince wants Edge to go far.... but further than HHH?
Somehow I don't see that happening...

Although, in a time where title reigns are short, and change hands every few months, it's possible that we could be seeing someone who holds the title more times than Flair and HHH in the near future... Edge is definately a possible candidate for this, along with Orton and Cena...

But looking at him now, I don't think he has 'the edge' to get a title reign number past 12 or so...

haha...the edge.....

 

[The Catacomb]

I don't even see the big deal with how many title reigns someone has. If you are a 8 time world champion, then you're at least an 8 time loser of the title too. Title reigns should count the total longevity of title reigns. Say that if someone only had three title reigns, 1 for 6 months, the 2nd for a year, and the 3rd for a year and a half, that's a total of a 3 year title reign. Put that against a 5 time champion of 1 for 3 months, 2nd for 1 month, 3rd for 6 months, 4th for 6 months, and the 5th for a year. That's a total for a true title range of 2 years and 4 months. So who would be the better champ? I swear they make Triple H lose the title just to have him win again to get his title count high on purpose instead of building true title reign storylines. I miss when they built up title reign story line like they did with Stone Cold and the Rock. And I think they wasted something with the Jeff Hardy title story line. To have him keep coming short and so close to the title could have been mush more over if they kept it going to wrestlemania with him winning the royal rumble and the win it at wrestlemania and the a long title reign mostly with Triple H and his brother and Edge going after him. At least the title would mean something again like it used to.

 

[Mr. TM]

Barring injuries, Edge can become a 10 time champion before the Winter Olympics. But there is someone that will have to be passing the title back and forth with him, and that will most likely be Triple H. Triple H will rise up and become a 4 time champion since 2009 by 2010. Edge will most likely have 3 more reigns in hat time, as well as another run by The Undertaker.

Edge will become a 16 time champion, possibly a 17 time Champion. However, Triple H will most likely become an 18 time champion by his retirement.

 

[f_roEDGE]

The future is unpredictable.
1. Injuries lead to forced retirements, so that's one major thing that could stop Edge.
2. New superstars taking his spotlight.
3. Fallout with WWE
4. If everybody starts saying "Edge has 7 title reigns" the WWE will realize and hold him back. We saw that happen to Triple H after 10.

However, the demand for this man winning titles is high. With enough support from the fans, Edge will surpass it.

In three years, Edge has amassed 7 world title reigns. I am pretty sure he has about 6 more strong years left. At his pace, that's 21 championship reigns. Now, Flair wrestled for almost 36 years. At Edge's pace, that's...

...EIGHTY FOUR TITLE REIGNS!!!!!!!!

We all know that won't happen. But if he is at pace to have 77 more title reigns, I am pretty sure that after factoring in many roadblocks, he can surely at least get 14 more. Triple H won't reach 21 title reigns.

 

[f_roEDGE]

Now i dont know if it was on WZ that i heard this but i think it was... HHH is on record saying that he doesnt want to beat Flair's record so...

If Edge passes Flair, I am pretty sure Triple H would have no problem taking it.

Who am I kidding....Triple H doesn't give a rat's ass about Flair's record. He wants it now!!

 

[CenaSux4Life78]

I am a BIG Edge fan, have been for many years. He can make you love him, laugh at him, and hate him all at the sametime. That is a trait that is hard to comeby in the business today. But as far as he can go? Well the sky is the limit. Right now, with the back and forth title changes on Smackdown, he could pass HHH this year. But, I dont see him passing The Nature Boy.

As for HHH, I think his time is running out. As much as I am a fan of his, he really has not done much the last few years. Well, not like he used to. I think he may have another year or two left in his tank. That is, as long as he is injury free. I think HHH will retire with a 14 time reign. Edge.....12 maybe 13....tops 15.

 

[Starchild]

I think this pace is far too quick for Edge and they should slow it down..either give him a long reign or have him not hold it for a while.
Now don't get me wrong, I am a huge Edge fan and I think he's one of the top two heels in the business along with Orton, but he's a bit young to be thinking about all these reigns already. I could definitely see him getting to 10, maybe even 12-13 but no more. The best thing would be to work a few more reigns into his ultimate opportunist gimmick because it's perfect for that.

On a side note, I am not sold that Triple H will get Flair's record. I think Flair and WWE will make amends and everyone has incredible respect for what he's done, even Vince. Trips and Flair are actually good friends and Trips does view him as a mentor. Sure we know he pulls strings to make him look good, and I think he will get 15, but I don't know if I see him actually taking that record from Flair..it's part of his legacy though he did so much more..similar to Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak. I think both are records that will never be broken. At worst, Triple H will tie Flair with 16.

 

[GUMBO2ndcoming]

Edge is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time but theres something that tells me he won't surpass triple h in World title reigns. Not saying anything bad about triple h he's another one of my favorites but if he had respect at all he wouldn't wanna pass Ric flair but if he does pass Ric i see edge passing him as well. I mean Edge is one of the hottest characters in the industry. He turned heel and never looked back. So to answer the question because of who triple h is I dint see edge passing him but anything can happen.