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One Punch Doug Crashin
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I knew that'd get a laugh lmao
A11oftheLights
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But I already posted some info. which shows that it is almost the same in terms of competition for places in Europe, Relegation and even at the top...
lulz.
Let's be serious, only ManCity and Chelsea had a chance once the Summer TW was over.
Arsenal are Arsenal, ManU had too many new players and they are obviously still bedding in, and Lpool lost their best player during the summer and started badly as a result.
In the past decade, only 3 Prem teams have won the league which is the same as in La Liga.
But, more Spanish teams have competed in UCL than Prem teams, as I already pointed out.
Actually, the Prem seems to put in the same 4 teams every year, with Lpool jumping in sometimes. Spurs have only got in once, and look out of the running this year again.
lol wat. I cant stand liverpool but they dont jump in sometimes, it was the Big 4 of Chelsea, Arsenal, United & Liverpool. Then City got money and Liverpool lost the plot
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So long as expenditure is lower than the money brought in by still being in the Premiership, that is an acceptable saga for many owners...
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It's also worth noting that the idea of a "Big 4" is not all that old.
It took Abramovich's money in 03/04 to make it a definite Big 3 with Liverpool just about dragged along as a fourth.
Before that it was pretty much a Big 2 in United and Arsenal between 98-04. And in the earliest Premiership years, it was United vs the challenger of the year - Villa, Norwich, Newcastle or on several occasions... No one.
Indeed... so wouldnt Liverpool of the past 5 years be considered as the Team on the outside looking in?
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Is that the superiority of those two teams or the lack of quality of the majority of La Liga? It didn't stop the EPL is the best league nonsense when United were winning at half-pace against the majority of the EPL for a decade did it?
Didn't United and Chelsea play like Stoke against Barca and Real in Europe during the big 4 era as well?
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
What is then? I don't think you actually know what competitive means.
I am amazed this conversation has come this far, but when the goalposts (Har!) are being moved as often as they are its no surprise. I don't think anybody ever said the top English teams are better than the top teams of any other top league, and indeed how could they be, when Real Madrid can spend £80 million on a single player? The point was that Crystal Palace and even Burnley are hard to beat for anybody, whereas the comparative teams in La Liga are often there for glorified training practice for the Reals and Barca's of the world. Indeed, if I want entertaining football, I'd steer clear of La Liga, unless its an El Classico, but I can feel fairly comfortable putting just about any Premier League match on on a Saturday afternoon.
And all this talk of Stoke and long ball is very overstated, especially in 2015, and yet at its worst still more entertaining than watching Barcelona with 90% possession ever was.
And all this talk of Stoke and long ball is very overstated, especially in 2015, and yet at its worst still more entertaining than watching Barcelona with 90% possession ever was.
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
Actually, I agreed with Alastor on that one... I just found it funny also.
(or does the Thumbs Up on it not register??)
It's not a thumbs up, it's a finger pointing at the above opinion and laughing at it.
Stone Cold Tea
Getting Noticed By Management
But I already posted some info. which shows that it is almost the same in terms of competition for places in Europe, Relegation and even at the top...
lulz.
Let's be serious, only ManCity and Chelsea had a chance once the Summer TW was over.
Arsenal are Arsenal, ManU had too many new players and they are obviously still bedding in, and Lpool lost their best player during the summer and started badly as a result.
In the past decade, only 3 Prem teams have won the league which is the same as in La Liga.
But, more Spanish teams have competed in UCL than Prem teams, as I already pointed out.
Actually, the Prem seems to put in the same 4 teams every year, with Lpool jumping in sometimes. Spurs have only got in once, and look out of the running this year again.
Lets just agree to disagree. I will admit the EPL isn't as competitive as I think but compared to the La Liga it is. You certainly see more upsets over the season compared to Spain. I just feel there is more chance of someone different winning the EPL than there is of someone winning La Liga
Stone Cold Tea
Getting Noticed By Management
Right who we wanting to see drawn together in the Champions League
Juventus: In my opinion the real dark horses to win this Champions League. On paper they have one of the best midfields in Europe and with Tevez up front and firing on all cylinders they have a real good chance to go far this year.
Barcelona: They've really come into form since the turn of the year. In my opinion it's always better to finish the season strong than to start the season strong and with the form Messi is in right now there's no way the aren't one of the strong favourites.
Atletico Madrid: They have that great collective spirit about them and in Arda Turan have on of the most under-rated players in Europe. They may not be as strong as last season and did scrape through on penalties. I feel there are a few teams who are better than them but I still wouldn't discount them.
Monaco: The real surprise of the cup so far making it to this stage. They do have some good talent out there on the pitch but put them up against some real quality and I see them coming un-stuck.
PSG: On their day they can beat anyone. Having Ibrahimovic miss the next game could seriously hinder them but having said that it's not like they don't have quality up top with Cavani been flanked by Lavezzi and Lucas.
Real Madrid: Their form since the turn of the year has taken a serious dip. They were fortunate to get through the last leg against Schalke and I feel a little bit of the aura they had at the start of the season may have diminished. Then again the egos in their team would love to be known as the first team to defend their Champions League crown.
Bayern Munich: Another of Europes big guns here. Dispatched of Shakthar in the last leg with relative ease and on their day they will absolutely shred you. I wouldn't blame anyone putting big money on Bayern and in Robben they have one of the worlds most in form players right now.
Porto: Capable of pulling off an upset in my opinion. They always have some relatively unknown player pop up each season and this one will be know different in my opinion. They beat Basel in the last round which isn't an accomplishment to be sniffed at. If they get a decent draw I could see them making the Semis.
Having looked at that my hopes are:
Real vs Juve
Barca vs Bayern
Porto vs Monaco
PSG vs Atletico
At least that way we can have the potential of some fresh finalists this year.
Juventus: In my opinion the real dark horses to win this Champions League. On paper they have one of the best midfields in Europe and with Tevez up front and firing on all cylinders they have a real good chance to go far this year.
Barcelona: They've really come into form since the turn of the year. In my opinion it's always better to finish the season strong than to start the season strong and with the form Messi is in right now there's no way the aren't one of the strong favourites.
Atletico Madrid: They have that great collective spirit about them and in Arda Turan have on of the most under-rated players in Europe. They may not be as strong as last season and did scrape through on penalties. I feel there are a few teams who are better than them but I still wouldn't discount them.
Monaco: The real surprise of the cup so far making it to this stage. They do have some good talent out there on the pitch but put them up against some real quality and I see them coming un-stuck.
PSG: On their day they can beat anyone. Having Ibrahimovic miss the next game could seriously hinder them but having said that it's not like they don't have quality up top with Cavani been flanked by Lavezzi and Lucas.
Real Madrid: Their form since the turn of the year has taken a serious dip. They were fortunate to get through the last leg against Schalke and I feel a little bit of the aura they had at the start of the season may have diminished. Then again the egos in their team would love to be known as the first team to defend their Champions League crown.
Bayern Munich: Another of Europes big guns here. Dispatched of Shakthar in the last leg with relative ease and on their day they will absolutely shred you. I wouldn't blame anyone putting big money on Bayern and in Robben they have one of the worlds most in form players right now.
Porto: Capable of pulling off an upset in my opinion. They always have some relatively unknown player pop up each season and this one will be know different in my opinion. They beat Basel in the last round which isn't an accomplishment to be sniffed at. If they get a decent draw I could see them making the Semis.
Having looked at that my hopes are:
Real vs Juve
Barca vs Bayern
Porto vs Monaco
PSG vs Atletico
At least that way we can have the potential of some fresh finalists this year.
Captain Morgan Freeman
Taught Elvis how to play karate
So you agree they need continuity yet think they should sack a manager who has the team playing well just because they didn't win a trophy in his first season. So next year when the next manager tries to bring in new ideas changes things and doesn't win anything in his first season either because he also had a slow start will you want him sacked too?
I mean you either want continuity or you don't
Sacking managers every year because they don't provide instant success is incredibly short sighted. Madrid chopped and changed managers ever yeary after Del Bosque left in 2003 and it didn't get them very far.Then you don't understand what in house is. In house is when you promote someone who is already working for the club. The term "in house" comes from the fact that the whole process is kept "in house" and you don't have to go outside the club when looking for a new manager.
Luis Enrique was working for Celta vigo and not Barcelona before he became Barcelona manager therefore he is not an "in house" appointment.
Im not even going to dignify this with a response if your going to compare a staged television show to an athletic competition.No one is saying these other guys will be the next Guardiola, but many have a tendency to try things again and again when it hit the jackpot once... as a Wrestling fan, you should know that with all the Heel Authority figures that come up again and again in the WWE.
If Messi want's enrique gone then the board will get rid of him to keep messi happy. But that may not be the case now that the team is playing well, is top of the league, in the quarter finals of the champions league and in the copa del ray final. Even if they club doesn't win anything this year the team is going in the right direction. Who's to say the next manager won't piss off messi either, or try to change things too much.
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Roberto Martinez showing off his defensive credentials...
Captain Morgan Freeman
Taught Elvis how to play karate
Alcaraz is a donkey.
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Normally, I would class him as a donkey.
Tonight, I would put him in the class of "lazy, big shite."
So you agree they need continuity yet think they should sack a manager who has the team playing well just because they didn't win a trophy in his first season. So next year when the next manager tries to bring in new ideas changes things and doesn't win anything in his first season either because he also had a slow start will you want him sacked too?
I mean you either want continuity or you don't
Then you don't understand what in house is. In house is when you promote someone who is already working for the club. The term "in house" comes from the fact that the whole process is kept "in house" and you don't have to go outside the club when looking for a new manager.
Luis Enrique was working for Celta vigo and not Barcelona before he became Barcelona manager therefore he is not an "in house" appointment.
Im not even going to dignify this with a response if your going to compare a staged television show to an athletic competition.
If Messi want's enrique gone then the board will get rid of him to keep messi happy. But that may not be the case now that the team is playing well, is top of the league, in the quarter finals of the champions league and in the copa del ray final. Even if they club doesn't win anything this year the team is going in the right direction. Who's to say the next manager won't piss off messi either, or try to change things too much.
Eh, I would like continuity, yes, however, neither Barca nor Real work in that way usually. Thus, based on that, after a trophyless season last year, were LE to do the same this year regardless of how we are doing now, he will most probably be sacked.
I never actually said I agree with doing such at all.
Agree to disagree on that one then.
It was an analogy anyway... and it isn't anything new... I've seen many teams try to 'recreate' stuff in the hopes that it gets success.
IF there is still a problem between LE and Messi at the end of the season, then yes, the manager would probably be sacked. Messi's continued contributions to the team are still bigger than LE's and thus, the board and fans will most likely side with him.
How such would be handled going forward(i.e were it to happen again) is not worth discussing at this point.
From a personal POV, I have been encouraged by Barca's form at the turn of the year till now. With a transfer ban for the next couple of years, it would be nice if LE is allowed to rebuild. However, based on the past, unless the team gets some success(La Liga/UCL), I just can't see him remaining beyond this season.
Anyways, I've always wondered this... How do you guys rate Roberto Martinez now as a Manager?
I really feel Everton should be doing much better than this.
Also, should Ross Barkley stay at Everton or would he better off moving elsewhere? Is he doing justice to his talent(I haven't watched/followed him much this season, tbh)?
I really feel Everton should be doing much better than this.
Also, should Ross Barkley stay at Everton or would he better off moving elsewhere? Is he doing justice to his talent(I haven't watched/followed him much this season, tbh)?
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Martinez doesnt know his defensive arse from his elbow and never has done. In fact, it is like he doesnt even try to get his team defending.
He took Wigan down and is trying his best to do the same with Everton
He took Wigan down and is trying his best to do the same with Everton
