Domestic football - spam version

[L@RISANO]

Fair enough. Wouldn't have enjoyed a calender year of 2014 by Newcastle at any club. But the abuse were relentless even after Newcastle's mini revival towards the end of the year. You could argue the fans took any enjoyment out of the club for Pardew too.

Too dependent on Yaya Toure who isn't the same as last season. The impact was most noticeable went he went off for the African cup and their form never recovered even when he returned. Also Kompany and Augero have been poor after recovering from injuries. That's their whole spine besides Silva all playing poorly at the same time.

FFP played a part for sure. They had to let go of Negredo and use Jovetic. But the dismal spending of resources played a part too. They splunked everything on Mangala who couldn't even nudge Demichelis out of the team and Fernando who is a good but expensive backup when you already have Toure and Fernandinho.

I don't think a lack of an exclamation signing is the issue. Look at United, Di Maria and Falcao are bit part players in their current run of form. The team just isn't playing well enough to win games they should win base on their talent. Something just isn't clicking.

The inclusion on new blood for ManU has clealry seen some players step up their game. ManCity remained stagnant by signing "overrated,lMO" players and allowed Yaya to bully them. Surely that birthday saga by him didnt help morale and they should have brough in an alternative to him in MF if only to keep him on his toes.

At the end of the day, City remained stagnant or got worse even, whilst the chasing pack have caught up.

 

[Lee]

We have a defender on the bench I've never heard of before. That is despite having no less than four out on loan.

 

[Alastor]

The inclusion on new blood for ManU has clealry seen some players step up their game. ManCity remained stagnant by signing "overrated,lMO" players and allowed Yaya to bully them. Surely that birthday saga by him didnt help morale and they should have brough in an alternative to him in MF if only to keep him on his toes.

At the end of the day, City remained stagnant or got worse even, whilst the chasing pack have caught up.

Which player stepped up their game exactly? The only vastly improved players at United this season are the Young and Valencia, and it is due more to the change in system/coach than any pressure from the new transfers. Don't forget United's performances were poor up till last month when it clicked. Before that they were grinding out victories. The signature signings of Di Maria and Falcao hardly inspired the likes of Rooney or Mata or Januzaj to improve over the past season. If anything those 'exclamation signings' hindered team chemistry more than anything in the earlier part of the season. You could argue Rojo and Blind settling to the English league helped United more than inspire others to step up their game.

Wtf Yaya bully the players? How so? You think there is another Yaya Toure out there to be signed so easily given their FFP restrictions? Or even without FFP restrictions? City did sign Lampard and Fernando that play MF this season to replace the departing MF backups.

 

[A11oftheLights]

The inclusion on new blood for ManU has clealry seen some players step up their game. ManCity remained stagnant by signing "overrated,lMO" players and allowed Yaya to bully them. Surely that birthday saga by him didnt help morale and they should have brough in an alternative to him in MF if only to keep him on his toes.

At the end of the day, City remained stagnant or got worse even, whilst the chasing pack have caught up.

Yeah gonna agree with Alastor and say that is complete crap

 

[Stone Cold Tea]

The thing with Man U is Van Gaal said all season long that it won't all come together to they buy into his 'Philosophy'. Now every thing has clicked i'm not sure if he got lucky to be honest. With injuries to particular players forcing him to re-jig has he stumbled upon something that works or is this the master mind of the tactical genius everyone was hailing at the world cup.

Citys problem is they simply havent added any more quality to there squad over recent years. There record in the transfer market is fucking abysmal. Then you look at the fact their players are knocking on and they are in need of a major overhaul. Now people say that they will struggle with FFP. BOLLOCKS. They will just make another dodgy deal with some company the sheikh owns and bang! they have 200 million in the coffers to spend. What they need to do is get rid of Tixi Brigistan however you spell it. He has overseen a large portion if not all of the transfers over the last 5 years and to be honest with you they have been shite. 27 million on Bony when you have Aguero and Jovetic? Recall Negredo. 27 million on Bony when your best midfield player is about to go away for a month and has already caused unrest? Buy a midfielder! 40 million on Mangala? I'm gonna go ahead and say right now that is the worst transfer ever. They could most certainly have got someone just as good for half the price.

City are in trouble, they're going to have to spend, but they will find a way

 

[MCMG]

Van Gaal has always been a 4-3-3 manager. Problem was that he had injuries to key players so he tried to improvise. Moreover, there was no logical way he could leave out both RVP and Falcao. Also playing Mata on the wing hasn't always worked. This might just be short-term success for Man United but it's definitely a step in the right direction.

As for City, they are in a mess. They need half a new squad and are in desperate need for youth. There is also the FFP problem. They will still have a fair amount to spend but they will have to go for cheaper players rather than one marquee signing.

 

[Alastor]

Am I the only that remembered Van Gaal going for 3-5-2 at the start of the season with wingers and defenders playing wingbacks that left the defence exposed time and again while leaving the strikers isolated? He switched formation and player positions due to injuries. If not Rooney would still be playing in midfield along with Jones running at right wing back.

As for City, sure they are a older squad and need to get younger but they really shouldn't be dropping points to sides in relegation trouble. Since the turn of the year they lost the ability to snatch points off of poor performances.

 

[L@RISANO]

Which player stepped up their game exactly? The only vastly improved players at United this season are the Young and Valencia, and it is due more to the change in system/coach than any pressure from the new transfers. Don't forget United's performances were poor up till last month when it clicked. Before that they were grinding out victories. The signature signings of Di Maria and Falcao hardly inspired the likes of Rooney or Mata or Januzaj to improve over the past season. If anything those 'exclamation signings' hindered team chemistry more than anything in the earlier part of the season. You could argue Rojo and Blind settling to the English league helped United more than inspire others to step up their game.

Wtf Yaya bully the players? How so? You think there is another Yaya Toure out there to be signed so easily given their FFP restrictions? Or even without FFP restrictions? City did sign Lampard and Fernando that play MF this season to replace the departing MF backups.

But it is obvious ManU attempted to rebuild their team this season and whilst it has taken time for it to click, it is clear they have improved quite a bit compared to last season. Compare that to ManCity who have arguably regressed and that is due to not bringing in proper competition for those already there. Clubs like Barca, Real and Bayern all buy Top Players season after season just so that players don't get overly complacent.


They needed to look for a good MF alternative to Yaya, or at least someone that if required could do his job or also play alongside him. Is it difficult to replace him? Indeed, but to just sit there and bring in an over the hill Lampard and a Fernando that you yourself admitted was an expensive back-up for Fernandinho was not enough, and I am not surprised the lack of a fulfilling TW has seen them drop down this season whilst others have stepped up.

 

[L@RISANO]

Yeah gonna agree with Alastor and say that is complete crap

Eh, Agree to disagree. The results are there for all to see. ManCity have been a mess this season and are giving out now in a big way, and if they don't get their act together, UCL might not even be there for them come next season.

ManU have slowly got it right as the season has gone on, and the work Van Gal has done has been clearly seen in the past few weeks. Yes, the big names like Falcao and Di Maria haven't cut it for whatever reason, but LVG has gotten alot out of Fellaini, Mata and even F'n Ashley Young.

 

[Captain Morgan Freeman]

You can't compare City to Madrid, Barca and Bayern. They dominate their league by hoovering up all the revenue and talent in their respective countries, they prosper while the smaller clubs wallow in insignificance. The even distribution of wealth in England and the fact they don't have the global fanbase to get past financial fairplay means that they can't purchase big superstars every year like Madrid, Barca and Bayern.

There's other reasons of course for Citys downfall but they can't be blamed for not filling the team with the worlds best players.

 

[A11oftheLights]

Eh, Agree to disagree. The results are there for all to see. ManCity have been a mess this season and are giving out now in a big way, and if they don't get their act together, UCL might not even be there for them come next season.

ManU have slowly got it right as the season has gone on, and the work Van Gal has done has been clearly seen in the past few weeks. Yes, the big names like Falcao and Di Maria haven't cut it for whatever reason, but LVG has gotten alot out of Fellaini, Mata and even F'n Ashley Young.

But where the hell is the proof that Yaya is bullying players ffs

 

[L@RISANO]

But where the hell is the proof that Yaya is bullying players ffs

Yaya bullied the Club, not the players...

Was wondering why yourself and Alastor keep going on about Yaya bullying the players(Should have phrased it better My bad.) when I meant the club through the Birthday Saga earlier in the season and the notion that he was angling for a move. This isn't the first time that Yaya and his agent have done such, and I felt that the club should have gone out and bought some sort of alternative for Yaya, also taking into consideration that the AFC was happening this season.

 

[A11oftheLights]

Right that i can agree with

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

Klopp's leaving Dortmund in the summer...but doesn't plan to take a year off.

This could get interesting...

 

[Tastycles]

Not that interesting. He will be the Man City manager unless one of the other big european clubs sack their manager.

 

[Барбоса]

And then be sacked when he does not win the league two seasons in a row?

 

[Alastor]

But it is obvious ManU attempted to rebuild their team this season and whilst it has taken time for it to click, it is clear they have improved quite a bit compared to last season. Compare that to ManCity who have arguably regressed and that is due to not bringing in proper competition for those already there. Clubs like Barca, Real and Bayern all buy Top Players season after season just so that players don't get overly complacent.


They needed to look for a good MF alternative to Yaya, or at least someone that if required could do his job or also play alongside him. Is it difficult to replace him? Indeed, but to just sit there and bring in an over the hill Lampard and a Fernando that you yourself admitted was an expensive back-up for Fernandinho was not enough, and I am not surprised the lack of a fulfilling TW has seen them drop down this season whilst others have stepped up.

So stockpiling 20M bench players is the only way to remain competitive? If you are saying to buy players of quality to keep players on their toes, they did sign a GK and Hart still played like crap for parts of the season. Over the hill Lampard saved many games for them earlier in the season. Yaya Toure is only 31 at the start of the season and was their best player last season, and you are saying their failure to find an alternative to him is the main reason for their failure and not because Toure didn't play as well as last year?

The players played poorly, their one gamble due to FFP on a younger player that has Champions League experience flopped. I don't see how buying another new player that may or may not adapt to the league in his first season is the difference.

 

[Alastor]

Not that interesting. He will be the Man City manager unless one of the other big european clubs sack their manager.

Real Madrid might be looking for a new manager too.

 

[A11oftheLights]

Has Klopp actually been sacked? i'm too drunk to look into ot

i know its a fucking wednesfay or tueday depending where u are but dilligaf

 

[Lee]

I'm not going to city!

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

Has Klopp actually been sacked? i'm too drunk to look into ot

i know its a fucking wednesfay or tueday depending where u are but dilligaf

No he's just asked for his release in the summer - he's often said he'd know when the time was right to part with Dortmund and that time has come according to him.

I'm somewhat hesitant to say he'll go to City or Real simply because he'd seem to want a guarantee of time and the ability to build the youth system and first team. That and they seem like too easy a task (buying the league/cups).

I've always thought he'd be a better fit for Arsenal or even Man United. Of course they don't seem to be in need of a new gaffer just yet.

In fact, if he wanted a real test in the English Premier League: Newcastle even?

 

[Alastor]

Both City and Real have great youth teams though. They just never use their young players. I agree Arsenal would be a better fit for Klopp but why wouldn't Klopp be interested in joining Real or City just because it would seem too easy? He could have been fed up with having to rebuild every season while challenging for titles.

In other news, Porto just spanked Munich. The tie isn't over but Munich has been shown to be beatable in recent weeks due to injuries. Guardiola always seem to get exposed once every season in the knockout rounds.

 

[Lee]

https://twitter.com/GallowgateShots/status/589454947864961026

 

[Барбоса]

https://twitter.com/GallowgateShots/status/589454947864961026

That picture and the replies really does show off dumb football fans.

I am sure that there will be "no one there to see it" at SJP.

 

[Lee]

There's still be 45k there tomorrow.