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Does Cena not care about the WWE title?

Why does he have to show he cares about the title? Is he not allowed to smile? Many times he's said he lives for the WWE, and many times he's said that the belt is what he fights for. He can't go after the belt all the time, he's just getting sidetracked right now with all these other feuds. Plus I'm pretty sure he was smiling due to the fans, both cheering and booing.

These same people complaining about this, are the same people who complain about Cena having the belt way too much. You should be happy he doesn't have the belt. If you want him to care so much, he'd have to turn all Super-Cena (serious, aggressive) and just destroy the Miz. That's the Cena that would fight to the death for the belt, and lately he's been this more "calm" character, hence the smiles and such.

Let them build the Miz up first, because we all know people still don't take him seriously. And you want to put him up against the aggressive side of the top dog (Super-Cena, not the one we've seen lately).....you'd just destroy your champion, and let him go to waste. That is the Cena that cares right? the aggressive one? you want that, really? you guys will just complain about that too. :shrug:

Sure storyline wise, most if not all would be angry after being screwed out of the title. Let's just say that he has bigger fish to fry for now. Confrontation with the Rock is more important to him than the Miz and the title.

He could always go back to the Miz/title via the "unfinished business" storyline. We've seen him do this before, and he will. We know he'll always be after the title so why does he need to show it all the time. If Rock wasn't around for sure he'd be after it, but right now The Rock is bigger than the belt itself. same deal when the Nexus was after him.

Sure it brings the belt's credibility down when the top dog "doesn't care" but he does because he's said it many many times. And sure maybe the Miz's credibility goes down when the top dog chooses a legend over you but there are other things for the Miz to do to be made credible. Like I said he's still not being taken seriously by others, and he's a work in progress anyways.

OR.....

Cena feuds with the Miz while Rock gets back in shape for WM28. DUH! There you go, he cares about the championship.

on this one specific night he had to confront the Rock. now that it's set, i'm pretty sure by next week he'll go back to the Miz and the title. then you can stop complaining....

actually who am i kidding, you'll find something else to complain about. :banghead:
 
If john cena didnt get screwed then the main event of wm wud of ended up a draw. So cena doesnt seem as pissed off becuz he wud of rather got screwed for the title he failed 2 win even b4 the rock screwed him. cenas character is all about pleasing the fans, a draw wud of bin a joke, where is a screw job is suppose 2 be controversial and get fans vexed.
 
He just got screwed out of the biggest wrestling championship in existence at the biggest show of the year, so he should be royally pissed off. He should be grimly determined to get even with The Rock.

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To a degree you're spot on, but you've got to remember that Cena AA'ed Rock first. The Rock Bottom was getting even; thats how a charactwer like Cena would see it. He's the professional; a good guy who plays things by the book (most of the time). Smiling weas probably a bit too over the top, but he went out there to get a match out of the Rock, and he got it. He has his chance to get even; not only that, but it's against one of his favorite wrestlers growing up ever.
Not saying you're wrong. Far from it. But this is one of those things where theres no definitive answer, only opinions. And mine is that there's no issue here.
And as a result, yes, Cena does care about the WWE Title. Of course he does. I don't actually see how that can be questionned?
 
The booking at WrestleMania was beyond horrible....the kind of effing bullpoop I would expect from Vince Russo...

(It cost us jerks in Canada $64.99 for the HD PPV....and they have that ending? Really Vince? Really?)

Now, getting to my point....John Cena does not need the title to be over with the crowd. Do I cheer for him? No sirs...but there are plenty of people in this "PG" era that do. And for those smarks out there that think booing Cena is gunna change things, think again...Cena is laughing all the way to the bank.

The problem nowadays is that there are only a handful of believable "Heavyweight Champions" out there. Cena has won and dropped the title enough times...and it is always better when the top face is chasing the title, not holding it.
 
To some degree, I agree with the OP's point.

Firstly, I know that John Cena is at a level in his career where he doesn't need the WWE Championship to be a top guy. That's all well and good but if you find yourself feuding for the title, I think it's important to convey that you do care about the title. Cena usually does this very well. However, as has been mentioned, Cena got screwed out of the title at WM and he shouldn't be running around all happy and smiling and all this and that.

He just got screwed out of the biggest wrestling championship in existence at the biggest show of the year, so he should be royally pissed off. He should be grimly determined to get even with The Rock.

Cena does get a lot of unjustified hate in my opinion, but his reaction Monday night is one of the things about him that, sometimes, does rub me the wrong way. We get it that Cena's the family friendly, upbeat kinda hero but this is a situation in which I think he should've been more serious and and showed some angry intensity.

He didn't really get screwed out out of the belt by The Rock though. The match ended in a double DQ, he didn't win the belt. The Rock restarted the match only to interfere and allow the miz to win. So The Rock costed Cena the decision (draw vs. a loss) but didn't cost him the title. He never won it after the match first ended.
 
If you look at the grand scheme of things, Cena SHOULD have a huge smile on his face regardless if he won the night before or not.

He is getting what he WANTS. He has been saying for YEARS he would love to get the Rock in the ring and at first the Rock just pfft at the idea and acted as if he was NEVER going to wrestle again.

Fast forward to the now, Cena did exactly what he wanted. He provoked the the Rock out of retirement for one more match and no matter how you see it, Cena is going to get a HUGE rub out of this. More so than any title run at this moment could do for him.

Either way he will benefit greatly from this. If they turn him heel and have him cheat to beat The Rock, his heel heat would be next to none. If he wins cleanly, sure most of us that boo him already would boo him even more BUT the rest of his fans will be completely and utterly sold that he is the best of all time. He beat "The Great" One.

I think we all can say without a doubt that Cena will somehow or another win the WM28 match. So why wouldn't he be smiling? He knew on the way to the ring that he was about to make the megamatch that both generations WANT to see.

I firmly believe that is why he doesn't care about the belt right now. I also believe one of the reasons Cena is always met with mixed reactions is because a lot of us, including myself are not ready to let the attitude era go, it was a special time in wrestling to all of us. Having this match may give us some closure.
 
If you look at the grand scheme of things, Cena SHOULD have a huge smile on his face regardless if he won the night before or not.

He is getting what he WANTS. He has been saying for YEARS he would love to get the Rock in the ring and at first the Rock just pfft at the idea and acted as if he was NEVER going to wrestle again.

Fast forward to the now, Cena did exactly what he wanted. He provoked the the Rock out of retirement for one more match and no matter how you see it, Cena is going to get a HUGE rub out of this. More so than any title run at this moment could do for him.

Either way he will benefit greatly from this. If they turn him heel and have him cheat to beat The Rock, his heel heat would be next to none. If he wins cleanly, sure most of us that boo him already would boo him even more BUT the rest of his fans will be completely and utterly sold that he is the best of all time. He beat "The Great" One.

I think we all can say without a doubt that Cena will somehow or another win the WM28 match. So why wouldn't he be smiling? He knew on the way to the ring that he was about to make the megamatch that both generations WANT to see.

I firmly believe that is why he doesn't care about the belt right now. I also believe one of the reasons Cena is always met with mixed reactions is because a lot of us, including myself are not ready to let the attitude era go, it was a special time in wrestling to all of us. Having this match may give us some closure.



I agree with everything you said except for one thing. I think there's a very small chance Cena wins the match. Why would The Rock come back to job to Cena, in his hometown nonetheless? The WWE needed The Rock to come back, The Rock did not need them. As you heard from the Miz, the Rock's movie's have grossed over a billion dollars and he has several more movies in the hopper. He doesn't need the money Vince is offering him so there's really NO reason for him to come back to job to Cena. Why would Vince McMahon reach out to The Rock and say, hey Rock, will you come back and lose to John Cena at WM 28 in front of your family, in your home town? Please oh please come back for that.

If this match were to happen anywhere but Miami, I'd think Cena would have a better chance.

There's just no logical reason why the rock would come back and job to Cena. None whatsoever.


Other than that though, I agree completely with the other points you made.
 
Either way you flip that coin its not gonna make sense.

1. As you stated Rock didn't need them and it is in Miami

2. However, we know the Rock going forward is not going to be an active competitor and Cena is your face of the franchise so to speak. So if you have Cena lose to Rock and then Rock goes back to Hollywood now you are stuck with Cena gettin beat and where do you go with that? Cena in the end loses, proves everyones point that the attitude era is stronger than the current product and now your business is in jeopardy. Business stand point for the WWE, havin Rock go over your current poster child, it doesn't make sense.

I thought I would explain why I think Cena definitely wins this match. Where I can see why you think the Rock should be a lock to win, but for business going forward for the WWE it will look extremely bad for the Rock to beat Cena. Unless they can find a way to make Cena look insanely strong in a losing effort.
 
Why does Cena need the title period. He has had it multiple times and in a short period time. He is showing he doesn't need to belt to stay relevent and also letting others get a buff from holding it. I am not a fan of but I do respect what he does for the company in the ring and outside it.
 
Wow I swear everytime I read something about John Cena's character it becomes more and more aggravating.

Look all the smiling, happy go lucky super hero stuff that Cena does is simply his character. Thats the character Vince McMahon and the rest of the WWE wants him to be. They want Cena to be the Hulk Hogan of this generation. Quite frankly I don't think WWE cares about what the older generation thinks of John Cena. There going after all the younger nieve children who will believe all this stuff. I mean come on, look at Cena's shirts and hats. His shirt is practically a comic book with a colorful backround, but hey thats what the WWE wants to market him as.

I get so tired of arguing with all these "wrestling" fans about what the WWE should be and how good or bad John Cena is. Hey its simple, if you don't like it turn on Ring of Honor or god forbid TNA. Because trust me if you don't like where the Cena character or the WWE is going then you haven't seen anything yet. Just wait til they bring Justin Bieber and other kids onto the show. I can't wait to see what the IWC says then.

Face it folks, WWE isn't wrestling anymore. It's entertainment at its best.
 
I can't remember seeing a wrestler less hungry than Cena is right now.

He is just too complacent, too clean, too classy. Great qualities, but not in a pro wrestler. A wrestler needs a temper, outrageous behavior, a huge ego, aggression. You can't create tension with a guy who isn't driven at all.

Granted, that the match has to wait a year isn't his fault, and the script of how he accepted the challenge was obviously poorly written. Whoever was at fault, this whole thing went down way too civilized.

He shrugged off getting screwed in the WM main event against the champion. Come on! If that doesn't pi$$ one off, what does? And if he doesn't care, why should his fans? If his point is that already he was champion almost a dozen times and one more title win is nothing to him, then great, he should have told his fans before they paid 60 bucks for the show.

Over the last year and a half I actually started liking Cena. I respect his accomplishments and how he handled some situations. It was kinda fun to like and hate him at the same time. But recent events made me realize that I'm finally getting absolutely sick of him.
I see a great time coming when he finally turns heel, but until then it's become damn near unbearable with him.

Ugh! All that Ass Kissing with the troops, the Make A Wish Foundation, the church choirs, being proud of being a kids' hero, congratulating Miz, shaking Rock's hand. UGH! Such a nerd. I feel like stealing Cena's lunch money!
 

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