Diddy To Perform.

[Jack-Hammer]

According to a press release, Sean "Diddy" Combs will be performing at this year's WrestleMania and he's going to be performing a medley of songs at the event.

I have absolutely ZERO interest in this whatsoever and I was hoping that WWE wouldn't pull out this bullshit this year. Considering how late in the game it is at this point, I thought there was a great shot of this not happening. I know that Combs is part of the Be A Star stuff and that's great but, frankly, I order wrestling ppvs to watch wrestling, not Vince McMahon shamelessly court "mainstream" media by featuring people in prominent spots who have jack shit to do with wrestling.

Since he'll be performing a medley, here's hoping that it's over with in about 5 minutes, though I doubt it. I'd say this'll eat up at least 10 minutes of the show. On the plus side though, I suppose it will be a perfect excuse to go make a sandwich or head to the bathroom.

 

[D-Man]

It always makes me laugh when people complain that entertaining things happen at a four-hour event based around entertainment.

Diddy is (and always will be) one of the biggest musical acts in the world. If anyone cares about the WWE flourishing and moving in a positive direction for the future (which means more buyrates and revenue) then you should all support having musical acts like this at the event every year. A performance like Diddy is what helps label Wrestlemania as a HUGE event for not just wrestling fans but pop culture.

But if the WWE didn't include add-ons like this to the event and buyrates dipped, you'd all be the first to bitch about it.

This is very good for the event and I look forward to the live acts every year. Plus, I get to see it live. So, win-win for me.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Meh it's a good opportunity to get something to eat, or drink, or smoke, or who knows maybe I'll feel like some Diddy when he performs.

Although I wouldn't consider myself a Diddy fan I'm all for a musical act somewhere in the show. It gives the fans a breather as 4 or more hours is a long time, a break somewhere in the middle is always a good idea. Being a company geared towards kids more and more by the day I would much rather have Diddy than Rebecca Black or some horrid shit like that. I would love it if they got Daft Punk or Dr. Dre or something but I can certainly deal with Diddy.

 

[The Butcher]

Got my piss break set up. Thanks Puffy!

The best parts of these concerts are when the camera cuts to the crowd, and there's one person (usually a semi-attractive lady) "dancing" surrounded by a mob of people who couldn't look more bored. Never fails. If the weather up there keeps being the anti-Spring, I hope it snows hardest during this part. Just because I like schadenfreude more than I like Diddy Dirty Money.

And despite Puff Daddy putting on a subpar time waster, Brodus, Sweet T, The Rhodes Scholars and all the ladies will still make the main card.

 

[justinsayne]

Dammit, & we were so close to getting a WM without a shitty musical guest. I highly doubt anybody is gonna be spending $54.99 to order a 4 hour show called Wrestlemania just to watch Diddy throw together a 5-10 min. medley of songs. I really see no reason for this especially on a card that's already got 10 matches confirmed (granted one or two of those are bound to pushed down to the pre-show).

 

[Mr. HD]

I love myself some P. Diddy, but I don't think I'll be watching this little concert, unless he's doing songs from the 90s and brings back Mase or something

But seriously, I feel as if these live acts are a bore at times. Some of them seem to drag on too long. I guess the only way I tolerate them is if they're playing a superstar's theme to the ring or something. Like last year.

Besides, you don't always need a concert to eat up time. WrestleMania 21 was a 4 hour show with 8 matches on the card. They ate up time with 2 great in-ring segments.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

It's fine, it gives the fans a chance to regroup and re-energize through four hours. If they are going to retire UT or HHH one minute and then jump to the main event I'd rather they give the fans a chance to get their minds empty again. A music performance will do that. It's way better than having a couple poor Divas go out there to get nothing but silence and insults. I actually prefer some old Puff Daddy over the degenerate fest they put out last year.

In the end It's All About The Benjamins. Which is a cool song and understandable goal.

 

[Wolf Pac]

At Wrestlemania, the "P" in P-Diddy will stand for Piss-Break cause that's exactly what it's gonna be for me.

I'm not against the concert, they give PPV's an even more special feeling and that's how Wrestlemania should feel, I enjoyed Cee-Lo Green's performance at Summerslam 2011, it's just Puff Daddy I'm not a fan of. Apart from I'll Be Missing You and Come With Me, I just could never get into him & his songs. I'll be skipping this because it's him performing and anyone else who complains for whatever reason should too.

 

[ABMorales787]

If he doesn't perform "Come With Me", I won't care. Regardless, musical acts add a bit of pizzazz to the show. Unless your name is Kid Rock of course. In which case, it fucking sucks. I assume that's why the card seems a little small, to accommodate for a bit of music. I hope they learned from their mistakes at Wrestlemania 25.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Why did they drop the Angels and Airwaves theme? I much preferred it to the current Diddy theme they were using. I would also prefer them playing at the event than Diddy, but I can see where Diddy is a much more popular draw universally.

And I also just realized, they seem to be only using 1 theme for Mania this year. As opposed to like...8.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Why did they drop the Angels and Airwaves theme? I much preferred it to the current Diddy theme they were using. I would also prefer them playing at the event than Diddy, but I can see where Diddy is a much more popular draw universally.

Diddy has more mainstream appeal. WWE craves mainstream attention/acceptance.

I'm not a big fan of Diddy, like a couple of his songs, but I understand the business logic of having him perform and basically everything D-Man said is correct. He adds a little extra to what is going to be not only a wrestling packed event but a star studded event at that, especially with guys like Donald Trump and Arnold Schwarzenneger in town, Diddy is just another boost.

 

[The Brain]

I don't really care about seeing Diddy perform. I don't have a problem with it either. At least Diddy is a big time name (although to me the most famous Diddy is Donkey Kong's sidekick). I just hope he doesn't take up too much time. I am shocked there are ten matches on the card already and now I'm assuming at least one is getting bumped to the dark match. I understand having Diddy perform but I prefer he not cause any of the wrestlers to lose their spot.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Don't really care either way. He was at Wrestlemania 28, but he just introduced Flo Rida, or that other douchebag with all the tattoos and Skylar Grey. Haven't been a fan of Diddy's music since I was kid, and when he went on the reality show kick, I just started to ignore him. Still have my Puff Daddy & The Family: No Way Out album (still one of my favorite albums ever), but yeah, I think his more recent stuff is shit.

Gotta give the guy credit. He's been around for a long time, and constantly finds ways to reinvent himself and stay relevant. I dunno. I guess if I don't like what I see from Diddy, I'll go for more pizza or another bathroom break. Doesn't really bother me either way.

 

[HBsam31]

Wow, Diddy has been around a long time. How old is he now? Is it wrong that I get embarrassed just typing the name Diddy. I didn't even know he still made music to be honest. I liked his stuff when I was like 14. Ok ok enough making fun of him. Hip hop, R&B, rap whichever he does now is not exactly my music of choice, but I understand his contributions to the music industry. I also understand Vince likes mainstream attention. I won't be watching Diddy perform at Mania, that will be my bathroom break for sure, but I understand why they have these concerts.

 

[Harthan]

It always makes me laugh when people complain that entertaining things happen at a four-hour event based around entertainment.

Diddy is (and always will be) one of the biggest musical acts in the world. If anyone cares about the WWE flourishing and moving in a positive direction for the future (which means more buyrates and revenue) then you should all support having musical acts like this at the event every year. A performance like Diddy is what helps label Wrestlemania as a HUGE event for not just wrestling fans but pop culture.

But if the WWE didn't include add-ons like this to the event and buyrates dipped, you'd all be the first to bitch about it.

This is very good for the event and I look forward to the live acts every year. Plus, I get to see it live. So, win-win for me.

Please. I don't go to a concert and expect to a film. I don't go to a play with the expectation I might be treated to an impromptu burlesque show at the intermission.

I buy wrestling to bloody well watch wrestling. If I buy WrestleMania, it's because I entered with the intent of watching oily, sweaty men slap each other about. Not to watch anyone perform music, unless they're accompanying an entrance. It's the kind of shit that's degrading the quality of mainstream wrestling more and more, this relentless insistence on being more than wrestling. The WWE crams musical performances and shameless plugs of their films into their product, while Impact has become a two hour advertisement for Bellator and a competition to see who can cram more of King Mo's dick down their mouth before the end of the show.

At WrestleMania of all events, I'm not interested in some sort of multimedia conglomerate event of all sorts of entertainment. I'm interested in the goddamn wrestling. You think this will increase buyrates? Who in their right mind is going to be sold on WrestleMania because it includes a Diddy concert? Diddy's remaining fans (both of them) would just spend their money on going to his actual freaking concert instead.

If I had paid money to go to WrestleMania, or if I do pay to watch it on PPV, I'd so so with the expectation that I'm buying a wrestling show. And as a result, the notion that the WWE feels it's appropriate to waste 15 minutes of their show on a concert when they could have a perfectly good midcard match is enough to make me want to vomit uncontrollably onto a small child.

 

[D-Man]

Please.

'Please' yourself. (Ha, that sounded funny.)

I don't go to a concert and expect to a film.

Have you ever been to a concert that had a film playing in it? Better yet, are said concerts advertised EVERY year as having a film play during it? And a concert doesn't play films during its events in order to draw more ratings. Here's another question: Is that one specific concert considered to be one of the largest pop-culture events of the year, every year?

Your counterpoints are comparisons of apples and oranges.

You act as if a musical act isn't a part of Wrestlemania almost every year. The first Wrestlemania was based around music, for crying out loud. "Rock N Wrestling" mean anything to you?? Wrestlemania, since its inception, has been an event catered to ALL aspects of pop culture. But live music has never done anything to help or improve the event, right?

Sure, let's negate the entire history of the event because you don't want to see a five-minute musical act play during the show.

I don't go to a play with the expectation I might be treated to an impromptu burlesque show at the intermission.

I would assume that said play would advertise said burlesque show in advance, no? And in that case, you'd have a choice as to whether you'd want to go or not. Not to mention that said "impromptu burlesque show" would have to take place at the play almost every year in order to make your comparison even remotely comparable.

 

[ABMorales787]

Please. I don't go to a concert and expect to a film. I don't go to a play with the expectation I might be treated to an impromptu burlesque show at the intermission.

I buy wrestling to bloody well watch wrestling. If I buy WrestleMania, it's because I entered with the intent of watching oily, sweaty men slap each other about. Not to watch anyone perform music, unless they're accompanying an entrance. It's the kind of shit that's degrading the quality of mainstream wrestling more and more, this relentless insistence on being more than wrestling. The WWE crams musical performances and shameless plugs of their films into their product, while Impact has become a two hour advertisement for Bellator and a competition to see who can cram more of King Mo's dick down their mouth before the end of the show.

At WrestleMania of all events, I'm not interested in some sort of multimedia conglomerate event of all sorts of entertainment. I'm interested in the goddamn wrestling. You think this will increase buyrates? Who in their right mind is going to be sold on WrestleMania because it includes a Diddy concert? Diddy's remaining fans (both of them) would just spend their money on going to his actual freaking concert instead.

If I had paid money to go to WrestleMania, or if I do pay to watch it on PPV, I'd so so with the expectation that I'm buying a wrestling show. And as a result, the notion that the WWE feels it's appropriate to waste 15 minutes of their show on a concert when they could have a perfectly good midcard match is enough to make me want to vomit uncontrollably onto a small child.

Wonder how the people who buy Superbowl tickets feel during the Half-time shows. Especially when Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake performed.

Chill man. Believe it or not some people enjoy the music acts that show up. It gives Wrestlemania that "It's a major event" feel by having a show within a show like that.

 

[Harthan]

'Please' yourself. (Ha, that sounded funny.)



Have you ever been to a concert that had a film playing in it? Better yet, are said concerts advertised EVERY year as having a film play during it? And a concert doesn't play films during its events in order to draw more ratings. Here's another question: Is that one specific concert considered to be one of the largest pop-culture events of the year, every year?

Your counterpoints are comparisons of apples and oranges.

You act as if a musical act isn't a part of Wrestlemania almost every year. The first Wrestlemania was based around music, for crying out loud. "Rock N Wrestling" mean anything to you?? Wrestlemania, since its inception, has been an event catered to ALL aspects of pop culture. But live music has never done anything to help or improve the event, right?

Sure, let's negate the entire history of the event because you don't want to see a five-minute musical act play during the show.



I would assume that said play would advertise said burlesque show in advance, no? And in that case, you'd have a choice as to whether you'd want to go or not. Not to mention that said "impromptu burlesque show" would have to take place at the play almost every year in order to make your comparison even remotely comparable.

"Rock and Wrestling" doesn't apply. Please refer to me how many live performance Cyndi Lauper gave at WrestleMania 1. I'll wait.

Oh, it was zero? Yes, I suppose it was.

There's a colossal difference between a musical acts mere involvement with or support of a wrestler and a free standing performance. As I explicitly stated, I make no objections to MGK's performance to give Cena an epic entrance last year (as hubris filled and ironic as it was, all the better). It's the probability of a meaningless, mid show Diddy concert in the same vein as the absolute abysmal Kid Rock concert from a few years back that has the bile rising. Whether or not the WWE has done it before doesn't change anything. WrestleMania is an event where I expect to see wrestling - free standing musical performances have no place there.

Furthermore, the advertising is irrelevant, except perhaps to inform me of their stupidity up front. A kindness ahead of time to let me know they plan on violating the purity of their performance in a desperate attempt to make the cool kids like them, I suppose.

Wonder how the people who buy Superbowl tickets feel during the Half-time shows. Especially when Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake performed.

Chill man. Believe it or not some people enjoy the music acts that show up. It gives Wrestlemania that "It's a major event" feel by having a show within a show like that.

Completely different. Halftime is a reasonable necessity for a football game. Might as well do something during it. The WWE, meanwhile, has a roster brimming with talent desperate for a chance, but Diddy is deemed more important.

It's inexcusable to have a free standing performance at an event like this. It's blatantly saying that they know they've already sold you the event based on the top billing, and don't feel like they should round out the card with other entertaining undercard matches, instead using the time to increase the size of their popular culture dick whilst boring the people who came to see the actual gorramn wrestling.

 

[ABMorales787]

Completely different. Halftime is a reasonable necessity for a football game. Might as well do something during it. The WWE, meanwhile, has a roster brimming with talent desperate for a chance, but Diddy is deemed more important.

It's a 10 match card. What else are they gonna add? Filler? Wait, they got that too.

It's inexcusable to have a free standing performance at an event like this. It's blatantly saying that they know they've already sold you the event based on the top billing, and don't feel like they should round out the card with other entertaining undercard matches, instead using the time to increase the size of their popular culture dick whilst boring the people who came to see the actual gorramn wrestling.

Just how sure are you everyone will be bored by P. Diddy's performance? Got me interested. Even if it's just for one song. Do you have any idea how that performance will be? What if it will be like last year and he'll sing someone to the ring? Maybe they have time set aside already. Not to mention cross-promoting always gives extra bump to revenue. In this case, PPV buys.

 

[D-Man]

"Rock and Wrestling" doesn't apply. Please refer to me how many live performance Cyndi Lauper gave at WrestleMania 1. I'll wait.

Oh, it was zero? Yes, I suppose it was.

Did I say she performed at Wrestlemania 1? Let's go back over what I said:

You act as if a musical act isn't a part of Wrestlemania almost every year. The first Wrestlemania was based around music, for crying out loud. "Rock N Wrestling" mean anything to you?? Wrestlemania, since its inception, has been an event catered to ALL aspects of pop culture. But live music has never done anything to help or improve the event, right?

I never said anything about a performance during the Rock N Wrestling era. Feel free to shove your foot in your mouth, smart-ass.

There's a colossal difference between a musical acts mere involvement with or support of a wrestler and a free standing performance. As I explicitly stated, I make no objections to MGK's performance to give Cena an epic entrance last year (as hubris filled and ironic as it was, all the better). It's the probability of a meaningless, mid show Diddy concert in the same vein as the absolute abysmal Kid Rock concert from a few years back that has the bile rising. Whether or not the WWE has done it before doesn't change anything. WrestleMania is an event where I expect to see wrestling - free standing musical performances have no place there.

So, once again, do you have Vince on speed dial? If so, then you can tell him how much you don't like musical acts at Wrestlemania while the other 20 million people that watch give their opinions.

I, for one, don't mind it. Especially when I know how important of a part music, concerts, and artists have played in the evolution of the WWE's product and it's place in pop culture mainstream.

Furthermore, the advertising is irrelevant, except perhaps to inform me of their stupidity up front. A kindness ahead of time to let me know they plan on violating the purity of their performance in a desperate attempt to make the cool kids like them, I suppose.

Of course it's irrelevant. It supports your point.

Completely different. Halftime is a reasonable necessity for a football game. Might as well do something during it.

Kind of like the WWE's involvement in changing sets before and after matches? During Raw and Smackdown, we call that "video packages." But you can't have those is the event the video packages are advertising is the one you're watching. A 5-minute concert put on by the artist who wrote the Wrestlemania theme song during that time period is fine by me.

The WWE, meanwhile, has a roster brimming with talent desperate for a chance, but Diddy is deemed more important.

You say talent. I say Yoshi Tatsu. I'd rather watch Diddy.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

So, once again, do you have Vince on speed dial? If so, then you can tell him how much you don't like musical acts at Wrestlemania while the other 20 million people that watch give their opinions.

Not one, single motherfucking person orders or does not order wrestlemania based on their being a concert. Motherfucker, please . You can sit there and say its a show based around "entertainment" but you and I both know that is just fucking silly. If that was the case, why is it not equal parts wrestling, concert, barnum and bailey circus, fucking X-Games motocross? No, its based on wrestling, its a wrestling SHOW, its Wrestlemania. if they insist on this happening, they should keep it to either 1. musical acts playing live for guys going down to the ring (which actually IS pretty fucking epic, and adds to the show) or at least have it be a super bowl-esque "halftime" sort of thing, since they have an even number of matches.

While its a waste of fucking time, its still much better than what we usually get. Ill take a small musical performance than an entire segment and wasted angle-build time for forcing some celeb into a match situation. .

 

[Harthan]

Did I say she performed at Wrestlemania 1? Let's go back over what I said:



I never said anything about a performance during the Rock N Wrestling era. Feel free to shove your foot in your mouth, smart-ass.

Oh dear, you've trapped me in a conundrum of misquotations! Whatever shall I do? Nobly concede, I imagine.

Except that your argument is running round in circles and ultimately collapsing. So, musical acts have always been a part of WrestleMania. Sure. Fine. But have they always performed at WrestleMania? Because if they haven't, then I really don't know what the point of your argument is. So there's musical acts about for ages, sure. But you brought up Rock and Wrestling, not me, and no one performed live at WrestleMania 1.

So, once again, do you have Vince on speed dial? If so, then you can tell him how much you don't like musical acts at Wrestlemania while the other 20 million people that watch give their opinions.

If Diddy can draw 20 million to buy Mania, I'll concede the point and advocate for him winning the title immediately, because clearly he's the real draw.

But more relevantly, not buying the show because Diddy is giving a concert is silly, and no one reasonable would do it. If you want the show, you want it because of Rock/Cena, Taker/Punk, and/or Lesnar/HHH. What's at stake here isn't really buyrates, it's the WWE's poor business practice of not delivering on the best possible wrestling program for the cash. The whole point of undercards is to entertain you while you wait for the big events, so you feel like you got your money's worth. Diddy would do very little toward doing that for me, because, as a theoretical purchaser of WrestleMania, I'd have paid to watch some wrestling.

Look at how many people in this thread commented that it's a piss break. Are you paying for a piss break? For 60 dollars or whatever absurd price they charge for this show, I had better damn well want to piss my pants before I leave the screen for a second.

Kind of like the WWE's involvement in changing sets before and after matches? During Raw and Smackdown, we call that "video packages." But you can't have those is the event the video packages are advertising is the one you're watching. A 5-minute concert put on by the artist who wrote the Wrestlemania theme song during that time period is fine by me.

The WWE could find video packages. I'd even prefer BA Star videos, because at least they feature the wrestlers I'm interested in watching. They could show past WrestleMania highlights. They could air interviews with superstars about the upcoming main events. They could do mindless comedy backstage. Literally anything that features an actual wrestler would be preferable.