Did the Rock lie about loving the business and the WWE during that promo? Of course he didn't, this was an emotional time for all the wrestlers at that time, the biggest star in the industry Stone Cold Steve Austin just walked out on the company. I believe the Rock meant every word of what he said. All the Rock did was do his time, retired and found life after wrestling. Isn't this what most of the IWC complains about that guys like Flair, Hogan, Foley and others don't do? So why are people mad at the Rock when he actually did what others haven't done and get hated for it? Would I like to see the Rock return? Sure but I understand that he accomplished everything he could and wanted to in wrestling, he's now retired from wrestling and has found life after wrestling. I wish him nothing but the best and thank him for the memories he has left us.
Did The Rock lie to all of us?
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Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Let me start off by saying I have no problem with The Rock leaving pro wrestling. He had the opportunity to do something bigger than wrestling, and less physical. He makes more money now than he did with WWF/E, so more power to him.
But does he care about pro wrestling? No. I firmly believe The Rock couldn't care less about the wrestling business, or how much it helped him become what he is today. In the past six years, The Rock has starred in several movies, and how many of those did he promote on WWE programming?
The Rock goes on Leno, Letterman, Conan, Regis & Kelly. Hell, he even showed up in Detroit to do commentary during a Lions game this year. He could have easily stopped by Raw a few times during the past 5-6 years, if only to line his own pockets. Why hasn't he done this? He is trying to put as much distance between himself and the wrestling business as possible.
He's stopped using his in-ring name, ignored requests to appear on WWE programming, and anything else you can think of to make sure we all know he is no longer apart of the wrestling world. Wrestling isn't "cool," and it isn't "mainstream." I honestly believe The Rock has become to see the wrestling business as nothing more than a burden on his film career. If he didn't believe this, why is trying so hard to distance himself from it?
Face it people; The Rock doesn't give a shit about you, me or any other wrestling fan at this point. That's his choice, and have fun with Hollywood. He's a movie star, and nothing more. If his films begin to flop badly, there is no doubt in my mind he will use WWE to jumpstart his career. He won't be a wrestler again, but I could see him doing more promotion for his films if they aren't kicking ass at the box office.
Seriously people, forget about The Rock..because he sure as hell has forgotten about you.
But does he care about pro wrestling? No. I firmly believe The Rock couldn't care less about the wrestling business, or how much it helped him become what he is today. In the past six years, The Rock has starred in several movies, and how many of those did he promote on WWE programming?
The Rock goes on Leno, Letterman, Conan, Regis & Kelly. Hell, he even showed up in Detroit to do commentary during a Lions game this year. He could have easily stopped by Raw a few times during the past 5-6 years, if only to line his own pockets. Why hasn't he done this? He is trying to put as much distance between himself and the wrestling business as possible.
He's stopped using his in-ring name, ignored requests to appear on WWE programming, and anything else you can think of to make sure we all know he is no longer apart of the wrestling world. Wrestling isn't "cool," and it isn't "mainstream." I honestly believe The Rock has become to see the wrestling business as nothing more than a burden on his film career. If he didn't believe this, why is trying so hard to distance himself from it?
Face it people; The Rock doesn't give a shit about you, me or any other wrestling fan at this point. That's his choice, and have fun with Hollywood. He's a movie star, and nothing more. If his films begin to flop badly, there is no doubt in my mind he will use WWE to jumpstart his career. He won't be a wrestler again, but I could see him doing more promotion for his films if they aren't kicking ass at the box office.
Seriously people, forget about The Rock..because he sure as hell has forgotten about you.
Of course he lied! He's a big time liar! I understand the fact that you get old and u don't want to put your body in danger! But come on, he could have doing other stuff in WWE rather than wrestling! He could do exactly what stone cold did after he retired! He participated, was a GM, gave a couple of stunners and made the crowd happy. The rock left us all alone and dumping that name The Rock for the movies! Its not the way u pay all the support the fans gave him when he was nothing! I promised myself not to watch a dwayne johnson movie! I really thought he loved the biz... he can comeback and give us something back to remember! Again, i understand about his dreams and the danger of wrestling but u cant throw away the wrestling biz and forget about it if it was the thing that made u what u are 2day. Just my thoughts!
Since it was a promo, it's sole purpose was to rile up the fans, not give an actual expalnation of The Rock's view of this business. Theres no telling how much actual passion Rock has for this business, but I think the most important thing is to realize that hes moved on from that stage of his life. Honestly I think wrestling was just a stage for him, it was just something natural for him to try out since there a family history behind it. As far as having feelings for the business, I'm pretty sure he has to have some love for it, as it made him who he is today and has been part of his reputation for the majority of his life. Him refusing to use The Rock as his name is a clear indication that he is done with this business. People have different goals and just because he wants to focus on acting now doesnt mean he didnt love the business at one point or another.
That being said, lets take a look at Hulk Hogan. The guy gets a bad rep almost everywhere he goes these days, even though he played a major role in what defines wrestling these days. I dont think he's stayed in the business for too long, rather I think he pushed his body too much by remaining active in the ring for the amount of time he did. Nobody over 45 should really be competing in the ring, because as ludacris as it sounds, it can be very hazardous and even deadly. Hulk did the right thing by finally stepping down and taking the role he has in TNA. Nobody can say that he hasnt had a possitive influence on the company since being there. TNA went from an ECW look alike to a company that could actually stand a chance againt WWE if they were given equal resources. Guys like Hulk, Taker, Shawn, etc have passed their prime and i think where they truly belong is either backstage or at home.
On a side note, wrestling takes its toll, nobody is going to make so many sacrifices for something that they dont love. Dont knock The Rock just because he wants to try something different. The guy gave us his best years, we should learn to appreciate what he did and move on.
That being said, lets take a look at Hulk Hogan. The guy gets a bad rep almost everywhere he goes these days, even though he played a major role in what defines wrestling these days. I dont think he's stayed in the business for too long, rather I think he pushed his body too much by remaining active in the ring for the amount of time he did. Nobody over 45 should really be competing in the ring, because as ludacris as it sounds, it can be very hazardous and even deadly. Hulk did the right thing by finally stepping down and taking the role he has in TNA. Nobody can say that he hasnt had a possitive influence on the company since being there. TNA went from an ECW look alike to a company that could actually stand a chance againt WWE if they were given equal resources. Guys like Hulk, Taker, Shawn, etc have passed their prime and i think where they truly belong is either backstage or at home.
On a side note, wrestling takes its toll, nobody is going to make so many sacrifices for something that they dont love. Dont knock The Rock just because he wants to try something different. The guy gave us his best years, we should learn to appreciate what he did and move on.
A promo isn't a good thing to go one if you want to find out the true feelings of a wrestler. In fact, it's the worst thing seen as it's fake.
I think Dwayne Johnson (time to start using his actual name, no?) is trying to avoid WWE, but that is because he's trying to be a serious actor. If you want to be a Hollywood star (which he is still trying to be, he hasn't made it yet), the last thing you need is the stigma that is attatched to being a professional wrestler. I don't know why the stigma is there, it shouldn't be. But people (especially film buffs) see a big, muscular guy and think that he can't act. So why wouldn't he get rid of his ring name? Why would he appear on WWE programming if he wants to distance himself from it?
The thing is, just because he has distanced himself from it, it doesn't mean he doesn't love wrestling. I don't know him and therefore I think it is stupid to say that I know how Johnson feels. If I were to hazard a guess, however, I would say that he loves wrestling. It's in his family. It was a huge part of his life. Things like that don't just disappear. But like I said, it is stupid to say so matter-of-factly.
I think Dwayne Johnson (time to start using his actual name, no?) is trying to avoid WWE, but that is because he's trying to be a serious actor. If you want to be a Hollywood star (which he is still trying to be, he hasn't made it yet), the last thing you need is the stigma that is attatched to being a professional wrestler. I don't know why the stigma is there, it shouldn't be. But people (especially film buffs) see a big, muscular guy and think that he can't act. So why wouldn't he get rid of his ring name? Why would he appear on WWE programming if he wants to distance himself from it?
The thing is, just because he has distanced himself from it, it doesn't mean he doesn't love wrestling. I don't know him and therefore I think it is stupid to say that I know how Johnson feels. If I were to hazard a guess, however, I would say that he loves wrestling. It's in his family. It was a huge part of his life. Things like that don't just disappear. But like I said, it is stupid to say so matter-of-factly.
Calderownz
Brilliant Idiot
I think in his heart, he's always wanted to entertain. Wrestling was his avenue. However, it didn't end up being his only avenue. So he took the safer/more lucrative avenue.
Doesn't mean he doesn't love wrestling. Doesn't mean he doesn't sometimes miss the excitement of a match.
Hogan and Rock are different. The Rock is old, but him coming back would be new. Whereas, Hogan was always hanging around. So, Hogan sticking around just means we haven't had a legitimate Hogan break.
Still, I don't think The Rock needs to come back. I'd be happy if he did, but don't need it by any means.
Doesn't mean he doesn't love wrestling. Doesn't mean he doesn't sometimes miss the excitement of a match.
Hogan and Rock are different. The Rock is old, but him coming back would be new. Whereas, Hogan was always hanging around. So, Hogan sticking around just means we haven't had a legitimate Hogan break.
Still, I don't think The Rock needs to come back. I'd be happy if he did, but don't need it by any means.
I get that, but does he have to? Is he suppose to talk about how calling Austin a jabroni helped him in the movie biz? None of his experiences in the movie biz have anything to do with WWE. It would be an irrelevant subject.
Well, I hate to be redundant, but why? To put WWE over? Just because? he put WWE in the first place by working there. Why do it post-career?
Because he doesn't need his Rock persona. He's not speaking in a third person. He's not playing Rock Concerts and he's not Layin' The Smackdown. He's just acting. Why would an actor go walking around with a stage name for a character he no longer plays?He's The Rock only when he's in WWE and rightfully so. It is a legacy of pro wrestling. Not the overall entertainment business.
He's made his series of sporadic appearances. And has done the same thing each and every time. Completely and utterly humiliate the current roster. Nobody can hold a candle to him in WWE today. And it shows way to blatantly whenever he does show up. He did it in 2003, 2004 and did it again on Smackdown in 2009. Would I love to see him back? I'd be a hypocrite if I said no. Should WWE really put him out there and show that their current roster can't get the job done? Hell no.
Funny enough, WWE is PG and so are most of The Rock's movies.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Who said anything about "have to?" Promotion is promotion. The Rock already has a built-in audience with wrestling fans. I think staying away from WWE while promoting his movies is pretty stupid.
What are you talking about? I said "to line his own pockets." I didn't say anything about putting WWE over. How many people watch Raw each week? Millions. It's makes sense, business-wise. Give the fans a reason to go to your movies, and they will. I think ticket sales would benefit, no?
I didn't say he should have kept "The Rock" name. I said he's worked overtime to get rid of the name. If I were him, I would do the same thing. But it's just another example of Rock not caring about wrestling anymore. It's obvious, it's not like I'm throwing out some controversial opinion here.
Vince McMahon would set fire to half of his roster to get The Rock back for a month. He's all about the money, and Rock draws. Plus, I think you're going a bit far when saying Rock would hurt the roster. It would draw additional interest in WWE, and would be a ratings-booster.
And as for The Rock, it would do nothing besides help his box-office numbers.
Funny enough, WWE is PG and so are most of The Rock's movies.
True. I'm really sick of him going the Eddie Murphy-route as of late...not like I care about his movies anyway.
This was from Rock's Facebook..
Dwayne Johnson has clarified once and for all his future with WWE via
his Facebook page. He confirmed recent talks with Vince McMahon about
doing something on Raw, but said he will never wrestle again. He wrote:
to the Rocks millions and millions who will forever be my
family.. ..my honest and direct answer to you is this: I left the WWe
because I had succeeded in accomplishing every goal I set to achieve.
Ive never done this before, but I will now because I feel its
important you know let me share with you the goals I set for myself in
the WWE so you can have a better understanding and perspective..
become the youngest WWE World Champion help set box office and
attendance records in every arena in the country help set PPV buy rate
records ..the final two and my most important goals to achieve in
wrestling: become the most entertaining and electrifying performer the
WWE had ever seen or will ever see again take the brass ring of the
WWE that Vince McMahon had faithfully allowed me to earn and take it
places it had never gone before to trailblaze to break new
ground to achieve unprecedented greatness for not only for myself and
the fans to enjoy but for the business of professional wrestling
itself and the WWE A business and company that is in my blood and
that I will love forever. I achieved these goals in the WWE at 30
years old and decided then to HUMBLY and QUIETLY step away and retire.
..and set my sights on another goal a childhood dream Hollywood.
..will I ever come back to the WWE? of course I will.. . not a match
though, but in a capacity that would allow me to do so much more.. I
LOVE that company and the fans without the two I would not be standing
where I am today Vince and myself stay very closely connected and
when the opportunity is right which will be a lot sooner than you
thinkwe will do something electrifying and historic for the fans he
and I were toying with the idea of a special show called ROCK RAW
sounds like a perfect title for me to come back and SLAP THE LIPS OFF
THOSE JABRONIS and LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN ON AAAAALLLLL THEIR CANDY
ASSES!!! sorry got carried away Ill save that one of a kind
electricity for Rock Raw.. it is important to me to say this from my
heart to the incredibly loyal ..The Rocks Millions and Millions
and the entire WWE UNIVERSE I am forever humbled and grateful to you
for allowing me the HONOR to entertain you over the years you have my
word I will continue to entertain you in ways like no one else its
only just the beginning I dream big and weve achieved those dreams
together because you never left my side I love you for that and thank
you I am Dwayne Johnson and I will also always be The Rock.
So no hes not going to wrestle anymore... so when Austin left years ago and Rock said even if he was 80 he would still be in the WWE hobbling down with a Walker going "Just bring it." That was nice, not nah not true..
Dwayne Johnson has clarified once and for all his future with WWE via
his Facebook page. He confirmed recent talks with Vince McMahon about
doing something on Raw, but said he will never wrestle again. He wrote:
to the Rocks millions and millions who will forever be my
family.. ..my honest and direct answer to you is this: I left the WWe
because I had succeeded in accomplishing every goal I set to achieve.
Ive never done this before, but I will now because I feel its
important you know let me share with you the goals I set for myself in
the WWE so you can have a better understanding and perspective..
become the youngest WWE World Champion help set box office and
attendance records in every arena in the country help set PPV buy rate
records ..the final two and my most important goals to achieve in
wrestling: become the most entertaining and electrifying performer the
WWE had ever seen or will ever see again take the brass ring of the
WWE that Vince McMahon had faithfully allowed me to earn and take it
places it had never gone before to trailblaze to break new
ground to achieve unprecedented greatness for not only for myself and
the fans to enjoy but for the business of professional wrestling
itself and the WWE A business and company that is in my blood and
that I will love forever. I achieved these goals in the WWE at 30
years old and decided then to HUMBLY and QUIETLY step away and retire.
..and set my sights on another goal a childhood dream Hollywood.
..will I ever come back to the WWE? of course I will.. . not a match
though, but in a capacity that would allow me to do so much more.. I
LOVE that company and the fans without the two I would not be standing
where I am today Vince and myself stay very closely connected and
when the opportunity is right which will be a lot sooner than you
thinkwe will do something electrifying and historic for the fans he
and I were toying with the idea of a special show called ROCK RAW
sounds like a perfect title for me to come back and SLAP THE LIPS OFF
THOSE JABRONIS and LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN ON AAAAALLLLL THEIR CANDY
ASSES!!! sorry got carried away Ill save that one of a kind
electricity for Rock Raw.. it is important to me to say this from my
heart to the incredibly loyal ..The Rocks Millions and Millions
and the entire WWE UNIVERSE I am forever humbled and grateful to you
for allowing me the HONOR to entertain you over the years you have my
word I will continue to entertain you in ways like no one else its
only just the beginning I dream big and weve achieved those dreams
together because you never left my side I love you for that and thank
you I am Dwayne Johnson and I will also always be The Rock.
So no hes not going to wrestle anymore... so when Austin left years ago and Rock said even if he was 80 he would still be in the WWE hobbling down with a Walker going "Just bring it." That was nice, not nah not true..