Did anybody dislike Stone Cold?

[D-Will316]

Im not talking about after the 2001 heel turn or at the end, Im just curious to know if there is anyone on who disliked for him during the 1998/9 run when he was up against Vince. I loved him and I have never really heard anybody criticize him, I guess that's because most consider him the absolute pinnacle of superstar. He's unanimously considered the superstar of the generation and whereas some one like The Rock can divide opinions, I don't recall seeing anything said along those lines about Austin.

Would be interesting to see if ANYONE had a negative view of him during this time and why

 

[The Crock]

I LOVED SCSA. I ADORED HIM. When him and The Rock feuded it was tough, but I always sided with The Rock... never once did I hate him though. I don't understand how people can hate such a superstar, he was the "everyman" he worked hard, and was a great entertainer. SCSA is a legend and I honestly don't thing anybody can hate him.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

I stopped watching wrestling back at the end of 1999 and one of the primary reasons behind it was that I simply had gotten tired of seeing nothing but Austin and the Rock.

Now, granted, 97, 98, I loved Austin. I had a Stone Cold wallet, I think 3 of his shirts, etc. But they beat him over our heads relentlessly for that period of time and really focused on nobody else, so it was one of those situations where the candle burns bright but goes out fast in my mind. For months, he was awesome. Then it got tiresome. Then it got to the point where I just couldn't take it anymore.

No more HBK combined with Austin ceasing to be particularly entertaining or fresh but being most of the time the ONLY thing they talked about = a 6 year hiatus from the WWF/E. Basically, what people are feeling about John Cena right now is how I felt as a kid about Austin. The only difference is that now, we have the distraction of another brand, and although they still beat the idea of Cena over our heads, he isn't being talked about in every single segment of every single broadcast.

 

[covieo81]

i loved stone cold. lol i remember me and a bunch of friends use to have wrestling matches on a trampoline and wed record entrance music onto a cassette(lol u could always hear the commentators in the back ground) and come to the tramp usin their music. mine was always stone colds id always try to do that head thing he did and give my friends the finger and talk shit to em. scsa was awesome.

 

[Brahma Bull]

well you just met one. i couldnt stand stone cold. i thought everything he did was the same and that they supermaned him too much like cena. just like when he showed up to save the wwe from wcw, before his heel turn, and stuns pretty much everyone. i was happy when he was gone from wrestling for awhile.

i think he got over because of all the stunts they gave him and his fued with mr mcmahon. otherwise, yes he would have main evented, but he would have just been a blur on the radar screen.

not to mention the guy straight up refused to job a lot, and literally walked out on the company. he was a selfish prick, and i lost a lot of respect for the guy for it.

i think that the wwe would have gotten along just fine without scsa, even though he was the biggest draw at the time. it was people like the rock that established other superstars like hhh, foley, big show, lesner, etc. i know that a lot of them were over before, but the fueds with the rock set them apart and put them at the top. who can you say austin did that for? mr mcmahon?

stone cold was the greatest gimmick, and he was given the best fued ever. the guys himself, was a piece of crap.

edit: i forgot to mention, he beat his wife. yeah, another reason to like the selfish prick.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

Occasionally, you get the old 'sTonezColdizOverratteD' username but they usually disappear without a trace within a few days (if they last that long). I really enjoyed Austin back in the late 90's. He was generally well loved and to this day, I can't help but crack a smile whenever I see him drowning the Corporation in beer or pull the fake gun out on Vince. Those were great moments that will always be cherished by me. Austin was the perfect hero for a child during that era because of what he stood for and was the perfect drinking buddy for a man because of who he was. Austin was just so damn appealing, that everybody loved him.

 

[Ben-Phillips]

I never have and never will be a fan of Steve Austin. It's just a personal opinion. Prior to breaking his neck, he was an exceptional in-ring talent, but after there was only so much he could do. His matches bored me, same moves, different people. His promos weren't anything special either. He more or less relied on his catchphrases to get through a promo. There were only maybe a handful throughout his entire career that I actually enjoyed.

I just see him as the ultimate case of "right place, right time." Anybody could've pulled off that gimmick, perhaps not as well as him, because that more or less WAS him. But nonetheless, it wasn't a hard gimmick to pull off. I have tremendous respect for Austin as a performer and I'll agree that he's the biggest star in wrestling history (other than arguably Hogan, depending on who you talk to). I'm not trying to take anything away from him, he just never sat well with me, and believe me... I tried, I tried very hard to get behind him, but I just never could quite do it.

 

[XgringolocoX]

I loved him in the begining, but got a bit tired of him after a while. I just didn't go for him stunning everyone in sight and leaving...everytime he was in the ring. He was in danger of becoming a complete caricature of himself.
Still cheered for him every time over the Rock though

 

[kissfan85]

Ya, parents lol.

Not true in all cases....

My Grammy loved Stone Cold and so did her friend.
My mom thought he was funny and my dad loved him even more.

Our whole family loved Stone Cold Steve Austin, my mom even got me the first Stone Cold talking shirt that came out.
I had Rocks, Stone Colds, and Mankinds talking shirts they were awesome.


The first time I realized how much I loved him was when undertaker snake napped him and was going to beary him alive by a river....I don't remember the details, I was a lot younger

 

[fenfool]

I stopped watching Raw for a while, back in the glory days of WCW...I just was not a fan of DX, Stone Cold or the Rock. I respected Austin's talent, but I didn't care for the character. I'm still bitter about him starting the interminable "what" chanting. I didn't exactly hate him, but his presence didn't keep me from changing the channel.

 

[CobraVenom]

i think that the wwe would have gotten along just fine without scsa, even though he was the biggest draw at the time.

So, the WWE would have been fine without THE top draw in the business? Try again, kid. Without Austin, there might not have been an attitude era in the WWE. Without the attitude era, the WWE may have folded. Nice try, but you fail.

it was people like the rock that established other superstars like hhh, foley, big show, lesner, etc. i know that a lot of them were over before, but the fueds with the rock set them apart and put them at the top.

You're right. Those guys were already over when they fought The Rock. Smartest thing you've said thus far.

who can you say austin did that for? mr mcmahon?

If you say that The Rock put over Foley and HHH and such, then I say that Austin put The Rock over at Wrestlemania 19. The Rock could never be THE guy until be beat Austin when it mattered.

edit: i forgot to mention, he beat his wife. yeah, another reason to like the selfish prick.

Too bad this thread is about the wrestler and not the person.

 

[Hawkeye]

I never really was a fan of SCSA. The Rock could hold my attention but only for so long. Back in those days my favorite was Jeff Hardy. I was always more of a fan of the high flying speedy type,rather than smashmouth power or technical wrestling. His wrestling style didn't appeal to me,and neither did his antics out of the ring.I laughed at the segment where he trapped DX one by one but other than that,I had no interest in SCSA

 

[TheProfessional]

I never hated that guy but was also not one of his fans.
In fact, I was actually happy when he was hit by that car back in 1999; out for around a year.
The reason being that he was always Winning, and most importantly... always beating the Rock.
Yes, I was a huge Rock fan and that's why I kind of disliked Austin.

Other than that however, I always enjoyed his character.
I like the Badass who goes around wrecking havoc and doing whatever he wants. It's just so damn entertaining.
Nobody likes a Goody-2-Shoes, and that's why Cena got so much Hate all those years. (Not so much Now)

But the Stunner was an Awesome finisher. And seeing people's reactions was always Hilarious.

 

[Tenta]

I will say this, for the matter; hindsight being what it is, and rumors abounding, I hated the manner which Steve austin played politics in 1999, in refusin to drop the title to Triple H personally, and by refusing to work with Jeff Jarrett. One I understand, in that Jeff Jarrett wasn't nearly the star Steve Austin was, and even if he was, Steve had some bad blood with Jeff. Triple H was a star who could have used the rub, and beating Austin for the belt would have done wonders for him. Sure, he got over anyway, but it still seemed a little unprofesssional.

That said, I loved Austin the performer. Everything about him was the greatest character of its time. Austin was the reason the Attitude Era began, and saved the WWE. Doubt you'll find anyone that disliked Austin

 

[kissfan85]

I personally don't care if Steve beat his wife or not.
We weren't there, we don't know the circumstances and we probably wont.
All we hear are sides of different people and your to judge on that.

Thousands of husbands and wives hit each other, so to not like someone's character based on that is stupid.
Your best friend could be beating his girl friend with out your knowledge but that doesn't change the fact that he's your best friend.
Well he beat his wife yes, but we have no idea what really went on in his head and was he provoked?
So who's to judge for that, cause he's still the same character we liked on tv regardless

 

[Ming]

I've never disliked Stone Cold but I'm a big Rock fan so every time the two collided (even when The Rock was heel) I would cheer for The Rock. But when Stone Cold would defy Mcmahon I loved it.

 

[NXTrookie2013]

I didn't know anyone who hated stone cold til this thread. This thread has me thinking that stone cold could be compared to a tv-14-ma john cena.
both of those wrestlers can be complained about that they use the same 4 moves over and over, and though they both have had amazing matches. they both have the crowd behind them. and both were face of the company.
difference is stoen cold cursed a lot and john cena is more kid friendly.
there was one point in my life where i couldnt stand stoen cold (i dont think he was a wrestler but he made appearances) because all i ever seen him do was drink beer and stun people.
but yeah i actually like stone cold though he a good guy

weeeeeeeeell there was an earlier comment i saw saying he beat his wife. eeh

 

[WCWMondayNitroOnYT]

I personally don't care if Steve beat his wife or not.
We weren't there, we don't know the circumstances and we probably wont.
All we hear are sides of different people and your to judge on that.

Thousands of husbands and wives hit each other, so to not like someone's character based on that is stupid.
Your best friend could be beating his girl friend with out your knowledge but that doesn't change the fact that he's your best friend.
Well he beat his wife yes, but we have no idea what really went on in his head and was he provoked?
So who's to judge for that, cause he's still the same character we liked on tv regardless

So please tell...What are the correct "circumstances" for being able to beat your wife?

Aside from that asinine statement in the previous post, I was a big fan of Austin. As most can attest, we could identify with Austin and live vicariously through him as he beat the snot out of his boss. What average guy couldn't identify with a beer swillin, finger-gesturing SOB who hates his boss?

 

[Brahma Bull]

So, the WWE would have been fine without THE top draw in the business? Try again, kid. Without Austin, there might not have been an attitude era in the WWE. Without the attitude era, the WWE may have folded. Nice try, but you fail.

I always love when people say you fail. it shows that they dont want people to say anything back because they cant support their own statements. He didnt start the attitude era, he was the biggest part of it probably. DX were doing their things, the rock was talking trash, and the divas were a lot less clothed. its not like austin started it. the wwe was going to go there because as vinces rival biscoff said, contraversy creates cash. the wwe did just fine when austin had surgery for his injury, and after austin turned at wrestlemania 19 he was never back at the top again. the wwe didnt fold. in fact the tides of the monday night wars changed when foley defeated the rock for the title. now i know scsa helped out in that match, but people dont remember the match for stone cold. he was given the best fued and ran with it. he's lucky thats all.

You're right. Those guys were already over when they fought The Rock. Smartest thing you've said thus far.

haha, are you bitter that i dont like your stone cold. sorry. they were over, but the rock established them as top people in the company. the rock was able to have some of the best fueds, and this helped people either cheer for or boo the other wrestlers. example, people really took notice when brock defeated the rock. who didnt want to loose to brock, oh yeah stone cold. seems he couldnt let someone else be on top, but the rock would. the rock did stuff for the company, stone cold only cared about stone cold. thats why he kept walking out.

If you say that The Rock put over Foley and HHH and such, then I say that Austin put The Rock over at Wrestlemania 19. The Rock could never be THE guy until be beat Austin when it mattered.

The rock had already established himself at the top when scsa left. who led the wwe against the alliance? the rock. and who did the wwe decide to have hogan face at wrestlemania? the rock. and before you come back with they wanted it to be austin, blah blah blah, provide proof for that. everyone just takes rumors to be true. the fact it austins stock was falling and the rocks was rising. i dont know who was more over at that time, probably austin honestly, but after his heel turn he never returned to his former glory. probably because he would wine and walk out whenever he didnt get his way.


Too bad this thread is about the wrestler and not the person.

woops, still not use to this whole quote thing. my statements are the second, fourth and sixth paragraphs.

knowing that stone cold beat his wife in real life made me dislike him even more. the character was good. i didnt really care for austin, but i could watch him and be entertained. then he walked out and beat his wife. sorry if beating women upsets me and makes me dislike the character. i dislike stone cold because in really life he was a piece of shit.

again stone cold just got lucky with the fued given to him. it wasnt his natural charisma that put him at the top. he would be a main event player, but probably around the area of kane or the big show if it wasnt for vince. all of his promos were the same, whereas the rock, hhh, and foley, just to name a few had original promos and got to the top on their own. the wwe would still exist without scsa, probably, i guess i cant know for sure. lol.

 

[Why Always Me]

I liked Austin, it's almost impossible not to (this coming from a die hard Rock fan back in the day). He ushered in the Attitude Era when he first became champion and feuded with Vince and along with DX, Mankind and The Rock was a huge part of why the Attitude Era was successful.

When he came back from neck surgery I had gone off him, lets just put it this way, at Mania 17 I was screaming every swear word at the telly when he and Vince screwed The Rock and Austin beat him AGAIN :-(

But at the end of the day he is one of the top 3 superstars of all the times, did a hell of a lot for the WWF, so even though I am a Rocky fan, yeah overall I did like him. The stunner is the best move of all time too IMO.

 

[dman1373]

Mr. McMahon hates him because he causes alot of rocus. Vince McMahon loves him because he causes alot of rocus.???????????????????????? Talk about a love hate relationship. Well seriously the only person that I could see hating stone cold is his ex wifes, because for wrestling he is the best of both worlds. He is extremely marketable for the casual fans and he is ground breaking and a good wrestler for the diehard fans. He made alot of money for alot of people. Had great fueds. Wasn't and asshole,(besides when he took his ball and went home.) And he is a badass. Who wouldn't like the guy.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

I hated when Stone Cold beat Kane the next night after their First Blood match.
I think my sig's gives it away as loud as an Elton John Sweater, I'm a Huge Kane mark.
And when Austin beat him the very next night!!!!!
I was f*king pissed.
Looking back I think it was so ******ed of the creative team to just book monsters like Kane and the Big Show so weakly against Austin. Kane's whole persona was kinda broken after this 24 hr f*ck of a reign!!

But that being said, I always will cherish my memories of growing up during the attitude years. And Stone Cold is the biggest part of that.
So no, I don't hold any grudges and have always been a fan.

(P.S Atleast Kane's still here and a champion!HA!...sorry had to take that swipe!)

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

well you just met one. i couldnt stand stone cold. i thought everything he did was the same and that they supermaned him too much like cena. just like when he showed up to save the wwe from wcw, before his heel turn, and stuns pretty much everyone. i was happy when he was gone from wrestling for awhile.

i think he got over because of all the stunts they gave him and his fued with mr mcmahon. otherwise, yes he would have main evented, but he would have just been a blur on the radar screen.

not to mention the guy straight up refused to job a lot, and literally walked out on the company. he was a selfish prick, and i lost a lot of respect for the guy for it.

i think that the wwe would have gotten along just fine without scsa, even though he was the biggest draw at the time. it was people like the rock that established other superstars like hhh, foley, big show, lesner, etc. i know that a lot of them were over before, but the fueds with the rock set them apart and put them at the top. who can you say austin did that for? mr mcmahon?

stone cold was the greatest gimmick, and he was given the best fued ever. the guys himself, was a piece of crap.

edit: i forgot to mention, he beat his wife. yeah, another reason to like the selfish prick.

first of all id like to say that im a huge stone cold fan so i might be biased but i also like to think i say the right stuff most of the time.

also before i came to this forum i did not know so many people hated scsa.people say he is a four move wrestler.then please give me a proper explanation as to why he has about 7 five star matches and numerous other four star matches.i dont think any man could be carried so many times in his career and that too in such a short time(only in wwf)

also you guys make it sound as if even lance storm had been given the stone cold gimmick he would have been successful.austin had more charisma tha possibly anyone except the rock.give some non charismatic guy the gimmick and it is bound to fail.if what you guys are saying was the case then just about every promotion would have a badass babyface and they should all be global level promotions then

just do yourselves a favour go to this site

http://starratingslist.blogspot.com/2009/09/wwe-observer-star-ratings-1986-present.html

if you count youll find austin has more matches in this list than john cena or orton again in a much shorter career

but this brahma bull guy takes the cake dude.seriously you should change youre name to bull.thatll actually be a compliment to your intellect.

you are saying that scsa was a superman.okay he stunned a great deal of guys once.but look at his matches.he sold the shit out of everyone.he also jobbed to guys like angle,triple h, rock,mankind etc.many of his matches were entertaining and didnt seem fake like cena's do.in his matches it would seem that any guy could win at any time.he didnt no sell in the end like cena or hogan do.

also he refused to job to jarrett who was just a midcarder and had insulted him earlier and could not draw(proved in wcw).he refused lesnar because he wanted a big feud with lesnar while effing vince wanted him to job in under 10 minutes to lesnar on raw.think that for a second.that is just not how you treat youre greatest superstar ever

also you are talking of putting people over.i remember rock never put heel hhh over clean.always did so by interference.austin did(no way out 2001)

no one except taker put mankind over.or for that matter big show.both of them put other people over.

and if youre saying he was given the greatest feud ever they tried to recreate it with other people a number of times.an example is cena/bischoff.i cant remember them working to any noticeable extent.

now lets come to the moot point.beating his wife.tell me how much you trust debra.she is known to have one of the biggest egos among divas.a lot of people bash debra.from all accounts that ive heard austin is a great guy whom everyone likes.cant see a guy like that beating his wife.

i can get it that you dont like austin but please dont state untrue facts

 

[Brahma Bull]

first of all id like to say that im a huge stone cold fan so i might be biased but i also like to think i say the right stuff most of the time.

also before i came to this forum i did not know so many people hated scsa.people say he is a four move wrestler.then please give me a proper explanation as to why he has about 7 five star matches and numerous other four star matches.i dont think any man could be carried so many times in his career and that too in such a short time(only in wwf)

also you guys make it sound as if even lance storm had been given the stone cold gimmick he would have been successful.austin had more charisma tha possibly anyone except the rock.give some non charismatic guy the gimmick and it is bound to fail.if what you guys are saying was the case then just about every promotion would have a badass babyface and they should all be global level promotions then

just do yourselves a favour go to this site

http://starratingslist.blogspot.com/2009/09/wwe-observer-star-ratings-1986-present.html

if you count youll find austin has more matches in this list than john cena or orton again in a much shorter career

but this brahma bull guy takes the cake dude.seriously you should change youre name to bull.thatll actually be a compliment to your intellect.

you are saying that scsa was a superman.okay he stunned a great deal of guys once.but look at his matches.he sold the shit out of everyone.he also jobbed to guys like angle,triple h, rock,mankind etc.many of his matches were entertaining and didnt seem fake like cena's do.in his matches it would seem that any guy could win at any time.he didnt no sell in the end like cena or hogan do.

also he refused to job to jarrett who was just a midcarder and had insulted him earlier and could not draw(proved in wcw).he refused lesnar because he wanted a big feud with lesnar while effing vince wanted him to job in under 10 minutes to lesnar on raw.think that for a second.that is just not how you treat youre greatest superstar ever

also you are talking of putting people over.i remember rock never put heel hhh over clean.always did so by interference.austin did(no way out 2001)

no one except taker put mankind over.or for that matter big show.both of them put other people over.

and if youre saying he was given the greatest feud ever they tried to recreate it with other people a number of times.an example is cena/bischoff.i cant remember them working to any noticeable extent.

now lets come to the moot point.beating his wife.tell me how much you trust debra.she is known to have one of the biggest egos among divas.a lot of people bash debra.from all accounts that ive heard austin is a great guy whom everyone likes.cant see a guy like that beating his wife.

i can get it that you dont like austin but please dont state untrue facts

wow, stone cold fans seem to be just like stone cold. insulting my intellect. i find that funny seeing how this is a freaking wrestling forum, and you really dont know who i am. i guess being an econ major at ucla and having a 3.5 there makes me stupid. im not saying im smarter than anyone else, but i think my intellect is ok. for all i know your from harvard, lol. some people take this shit serious i guess. also, if your gunna insult me, use an insult that makes sense. how does bull[shit] have anything to do with intellect? but i guess stone cold fans will be asses just like stone cold.

where to start,

first, when did i bring up hogan or cena? yeah scsa sold well, but he would also show up and stun a ton of people, like the corporation, the alliance etc. his constant superman stunning the hell out of everyone annoyed me.

also, heels arent suppose to go over clean. thats what makes them heels. they are suppose to win underhandedly. i actually thought it was a poor decision to have cena loose cleanly to orton at hell in a cell, but i guess that type of match makes it ok since the rules are out the window. also, didnt everyone praise cena for making swagger look good but still beating him. my point wasnt that the rock jobbed to a lot of people, my point was he was the best person to fued with if you wanted to get to the top. with the exception of mr ass, lol.

the rock did put foley over. remember he was beaten with a forklift? and he won through cheating as a heel, not cleanly to foley.

also, how do you know what went into scsa walking out. oh he didnt like how it was done so he went home. stop being a fanboy and think maybe he wanted to stay on top. stop taking rumors to be the truth.

and again you take rumors of austin to be true. i heard he was a great guy and thats good enough for me, huh? he walked out on the company numerous times. he refused to job to people. and he plead no contest to assaulting his wife. your right, she may be lying, but seeing stone colds other actions, i say there is a pretty good chance he beat her.

and austin WAS at the right place at the right time. people hated vince in real life because of the screwjob. people didnt hate biscoff in real life. vince is one of the best characters ever in wrestling. he can make people absolutely hate him. and who else got to drive beer trucks? he was given all the props and made it work. im not saying he wasnt talented or charismatic, but again, he would probably be around the level of kain if it wasnt for this fued.

and untrue facts, i seem to be the one putting up facts, you know him walking out, refusing to job, and on the record as a wife beater. you have pretty much given rumors and fanboy oppinions of scsa. if your gunna insult me, try to actually put thought into it. your post was kind of, sad.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

wow, stone cold fans seem to be just like stone cold. insulting my intellect. i find that funny seeing how this is a freaking wrestling forum, and you really dont know who i am. i guess being an econ major at ucla and having a 3.5 there makes me stupid. im not saying im smarter than anyone else, but i think my intellect is ok. for all i know your from harvard, lol. some people take this shit serious i guess. also, if your gunna insult me, use an insult that makes sense. how does bull[shit] have anything to do with intellect? but i guess stone cold fans will be asses just like stone cold.

where to start,

first, when did i bring up hogan or cena? yeah scsa sold well, but he would also show up and stun a ton of people, like the corporation, the alliance etc. his constant superman stunning the hell out of everyone annoyed me.

also, heels arent suppose to go over clean. thats what makes them heels. they are suppose to win underhandedly. i actually thought it was a poor decision to have cena loose cleanly to orton at hell in a cell, but i guess that type of match makes it ok since the rules are out the window. also, didnt everyone praise cena for making swagger look good but still beating him. my point wasnt that the rock jobbed to a lot of people, my point was he was the best person to fued with if you wanted to get to the top. with the exception of mr ass, lol.

the rock did put foley over. remember he was beaten with a forklift? and he won through cheating as a heel, not cleanly to foley.

also, how do you know what went into scsa walking out. oh he didnt like how it was done so he went home. stop being a fanboy and think maybe he wanted to stay on top. stop taking rumors to be the truth.

and again you take rumors of austin to be true. i heard he was a great guy and thats good enough for me, huh? he walked out on the company numerous times. he refused to job to people. and he plead no contest to assaulting his wife. your right, she may be lying, but seeing stone colds other actions, i say there is a pretty good chance he beat her.

and austin WAS at the right place at the right time. people hated vince in real life because of the screwjob. people didnt hate biscoff in real life. vince is one of the best characters ever in wrestling. he can make people absolutely hate him. and who else got to drive beer trucks? he was given all the props and made it work. im not saying he wasnt talented or charismatic, but again, he would probably be around the level of kain if it wasnt for this fued.

and untrue facts, i seem to be the one putting up facts, you know him walking out, refusing to job, and on the record as a wife beater. you have pretty much given rumors and fanboy oppinions of scsa. if your gunna insult me, try to actually put thought into it. your post was kind of, sad.

okay lets get the intelligence part out first.im a third year engineering student at an iit(indian institute of technology)which is comparable to ivy league colleges in the us.

and now lets get to the facts you are stating.you said im stating rumours.the stuff about brock lesnar and jarrett is there in the stone cold truth book.i havent read it but ive read a review of it from a very popular internet columnist.here read a review of it:

http://oratory.rajah.com/index.php?archive=1698

about the wife beater stuff tell me what do you do if you find out that ur friend has beaten his wife/girlfriend.most sane people would stop being friends with him.hasnt happened to austin.he still has his friends.also since you are such a "fact" stater let me tell you that debra said in an interview that scsa beating her up was a result of roid rage.dont you think especially after what happened to chris benoit that this would have been brought up.but no it wasnt.im not saying austin is some saint.no he isnt but you gotta take back your statement about me posting rumors.go read the damn truth book and youll get your answers.

and your saying rock put foley over is ludricous.losing a match means nothing.taker put foley over and the rock/foley feud was to put the rock over.ill even go on to say that the rock is a bit overrated in this department.the only guy he some what put over was kurt angle.if you say losing by cheating is ok then he put over jericho as well.even austin lost to jericho if i remember correctly.so did he to angle.

also ok people did not hate bischoff but you agree people hated vince and also vince portrayed his on screen evil boss persona very well.but then why didnt rock/mcmahon reach the same heights as austin/mcmahon.in early 2000 it was the sae deal.mcmahon screwing over the top face at the time.

i think that you are a bit misinformed about the business dude.try sharpening up your knowledge and then talk about it mr bull boy

ps:duh you dont know that bulls arent supposed to be that intelligent.try tooting a horn before a bull.it wont have any effect.it comes under one of the proverbs in my native language so it ok if you dont get it though.